Alexander Golubev: "Umugore wampaye abana, ntashobora kuba ateye ubwoba"

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Alexander Golubev ntabwo yijimye neza, ariko buri nshingano ari mu icumi zambere, kandi buri firime - ifite ikibuga cyiza "," abavandimwe ba Karamazov "," Abashakashatsi "bati:" Abavugizi " , ziva muri "Karamazov" ... "Serivisi ishinzwe mu muziki ntabwo yihanganira urusaku" - biramureba. Inyuguti zitandukanye, inshuro ninyuguti. Mubyukuri udahinduye hanze, byigana rwose imbere. Amayobera, atumvikana, ntabwo ayitaye cyane kandi icyarimwe charismatique. Mu nyungu zo kuvuga ku nshingano, ikikije ikinamico na cinema, hamwe n'icyifuzo kidasanzwe n'ishema ... kubyerekeye abakobwa bawe babiri bafitanye isano nabategarugori bato. Ibi byose - mubazwa n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".

- Sasha, ni ukubera iki wahisemo ibyuzi abakurambere?

"Hano hari abakobwa banjye bishora muri siporo, babana hafi kandi biga ku ishuri.

- Ntutuye hano? Kandi abakobwa bawe bakora iki?

- Ntuye hanze yumujyi, ariko ntabwo ari kure ya Moscou. Mboroheye. Abakobwa imyaka ibiri nigice basezeranye na batickboxing, none barazimya kudo, bongereye ubuhanga. Ku mukuru cumi n'itatu, muto uzaba icumi. Basanzwe bakiri bato b'abadamu.

Alexander Golubev:

"Imyaka cumi n'itatu, umuhererezi azaba icumi. Umukobwa ukiri muto"

AleNna Medvedev

- Kuki siporo nkiyi?

- Kuberako mumico nk'urwo, nk'ubuhanzi bwo kurwana, cyane cyane, bigira uruhare mu mahugurwa, uyu ni umutwe. Kandi kuva umuziki na - muburyo runaka - bafite imivugo ahagije, noneho turahagarara, mubyukuri. Ntibabona kandi uko bashimangirwa no gukura. Yatangiye imyaka itanu cyangwa itandatu ishize hamwe na siporo.

- Uhuza amahitamo yawe n'ibyifuzo byabo?

- Kubyifuzo byabo, ibisigaye akenshi byatoranijwe, aho kuba imirimo yose. Ariko dufite amasezerano nabo, ko niyo badakunda rwose, bazakomeza gukora kubuyobozi bwacu bworoshye kugeza cumi nini. Hanyuma ubwabo bazohitamo uko bazaba.

- Abakobwa basangiye nawe ibitekerezo byawe, uburambe - muri rusange, nubuzima bwabo?

- Nahoraga mvugana nabo nkabo nkabantu bakuru, none bizatera imbere bimaze kuba urugwiro, hafi.

- Ufite umubano wabo hagati yawe?

- Rwose! Urukundo rwabo n'ubucuti ni ingenzi kuri njye. Ariko ntibishoboka kugenzura. Umubano wabo ni umubano wabo, sinshaka kuzamuka aho. Ibintu byose biri mubikenewe umwe mubindi. Imwe, nkitegeko, yiteguye kwakira undi, undi akeneye. Anya, mukuru, yiteguye kubyemera, na Nastya rimwe na rimwe bakeneye.

Alexander Golubev:

"Umwe, nk'amategeko, yiteguye kwakira undi, undi arabikeneye."

AleNna Medvedev

- Utekereza ute, ninde muri bo wiyegereza ibyawe?

- Mu muto, birumvikana. Na atyouta ni umubumbe utandukanye, filozofiya ninshuti nyayo. Nastya na we ni inshuti nziza, ariko muri rusange ntabwo ari ubuntu mubuzima bwimbere, kugirango uhite kureba no kureba. Kandi ndabyumva niba utangiye gutema ibyifuzo bye bivuye ku mutima, birababaza cyane kubarusha

Hindura gusa.

- Ufite icyifuzo gikomeye cyo kuvugana nabo?

- neza. Byongeye kandi, bazakusanya ubushake cyangwa ubusa. Ndashobora no kubona isura yabo ko hari aho ukeneye kwirinda gato. Rimwe na rimwe, Annie ashobora kuvuga mu buryo bworoheje: "Papa, urakomeye cyane, ntuteze ubwoba abantu."

- Bareba firime zawe, uragaragaza igitekerezo cyawe, kandi burigihe bihurira nabo?

- Rimwe na rimwe, birasa kuri njye, aya manota arenze urugero. (Kumwenyura.) Ni abantu batandukanye rwose, ariko rimwe na rimwe babona ikintu kimwe kandi nkikintu kimwe. Kurugero, asenga igihe cya Sasha muri sasha muri theatre (abakobwa mama - umukinnyi wa filime Alexander ursulak. - Hafi.), Cyane cyane nastya. Kandi ngomba kuvuga ko muri uku buryo, bazuka neza: kubaha akazi kacu gusa, ahubwo nogirwa umurimo wabantu inyuma, n'abumva.

- nanone turashaka kuba abakinyi?

- Nastya - Ahari, kandi mfunzwe aracyabona ko ari umuyobozi cyangwa ahantu hafi.

- Uracyajya gusunika ikirere cyo kureba kuri Alexander Ursulak? ..

- Yego ufite umunezero. Kandi ndishimye cyane ku ntsinzi ye. Kandi ibi ni intsinzi, usibye urwenya. Ni umukinnyi utangaje n'umuntu utangaje. Umugore wampaye abana ntashobora kuba uteye ubwoba. (Kumwenyura.) Ni mama, umwuga, umuntu munini.

- Mubuzima bwawe - Bitandukanye na Sasha Ursulak - Theatre yazimiye, nubwo wari ufite inshingano nziza ...

- Yego, nakinnye ibitaramo bitanu muri MHT. Muri ibyo, amaherezo, "gusa" igihe ntavukaga, "ariko igihe Olegya, ugenda, ubwami bwo mu ijuru, ntibushobora kubaho. Mbabajwe cyane n'imikorere, ariko ntishobora kugereranwa no kugenda k'umuntu munini. Oleg Palych yatumye cyane kandi urusaku rwinshi na Swiry bagenda muri ubu buzima, ko akiri hano kandi igihe kirekire kizaba hafi. Abari bamuzi ku giti cyabo bakoze cyangwa bakaba ari indorerezi, bavuga ko buri wese afite Oleg Pavlovich itabi. Kuri njye, yari umwarimu nakuru mukuru, nubwo ntari umunyeshuri we. Ariko vugana nigipimo nkicyo mubantu mugihe icyo aricyo cyose ni ishuri ryiza, ntabwo ari umwuga gusa: ni imyifatire yabo kubandi bantu na bo ubwabo. Na Oleg Pavlovich muriyi myumvire irihariye.

Alexander Golubev:

"Umuntu wese afite Oleg Pavlovich Tobakov. Kuri njye, yari umwarimu na comrade nkuru"

AleNna Medvedev

- Yego! Kandi benshi batekereza gusa. Kandi nabyo yabigaragaje yiyubashye: baravuga bati: Ikintu cyingenzi ni umwanya wawe ...

- Mubihe byacu, ubu ni inzira yo kwirwanaho. Kandi itabi - hejuru ya Epoch, mugihe nigihe. Ubu ni ubundi rugero. Ndamushimira kubwizere ko yari ankunda.

- Noneho ntumva ko ikinamico yabuze?

- Hariho. Ndashaka kuba imikorere, kandi ko ndumva ko afite inzu, kandi uyu munsi urantegereje ko iyi nyama yantegereje, kuko buri rubuga rufite abareba, ikirere cyacyo. Rero, icyifuzo cyanjye hari ukuntu bigomba gucamo ikintu.

- Iyo wakinnye MHT, ntabwo nafashe imyaka mike. Kubera iki? Cyane guhuza ...

- Nishimiye cyane ukuntu ibizaba byanjye byateye imbere muri ako kanya. Kandi ntabwo ari ubucucike bwakazi kanjye muri theatre. Ndakeka ko ntari umuhanzi usanzwe usobanukirwa bisanzwe. Kuri njye, gukundwa ntabwo ari ngombwa. Ntabwo numva neza uko nemeye iki kiganiro, hari ukuntu. (Kumwenyura.) Kubera njye, ibyo byose ni ahantu hafunze cyane. Nshobora kuvuga gato kuri kimwe cyangwa ikindi gikorwa, ariko ... hariyu muyunguruzi: I numwuga, kandi ndashaka kurangiza.

- Kuki ufunze cyane? Nubuzima?

- Mubuzima, muri leta yanjye, ibintu byose birakinguye. (Kumwenyura.)

- Kandi leta yawe ni uwuhe mutwe?

- Aba ni bene wabo ninshuti. Niba kandi ugarutse ku kazi - Muri iyo myaka, icyatanzwe kuri sinema, sinigeze nkunda cyangwa ntitumvikanye ku mpamvu iyo ari yo yose. Ndizera iherezo. Bikwiye kubaho bizaba. Byongeye kandi, niba umuntu adakora igihe gito, afite igihe cyiza cyo kwitegura ikindi gikorwa cyose. Kuri njye mbona kuri iki gihe bitagikenewe.

- imyaka ingahe ?! Ufite mirongo itatu na gatanu, nuyu munsi na mirongo itandatu - ntabwo ari imyaka ...

- kuri mirongo itandatu, ntakintu kidakenewe na gato. Ariko mu kigero cyanjye, kuri njye mbona, nibyiza gukora no mumyaka itanu ikintu runaka, ariko bifite akamaro kuruta kumugezi na byinshi - byinshi.

- Ufite imbuga nkoranyambaga?

- ntabwo. Sobanura impamvu. Noneho abantu bafite amahirwe yo gusomana neza. Byose biterwa nifoto washyizemo muri Instagram. Kandi kubera ko iki gihuru kiri imbere, noneho muriki gihe muhuye numuntu, uratahura ko mubyukuri, byose ntaho bihuriye nabyo, usibye ko yakoraga. Mu mbuga nkoranyambaga, hafi ya bose bibaho ku mategeko amwe n'umukino, kandi ndabarabona.

- Hariho umubumbe nkuyu mubuzima bwawe nka Sergey Ursulak. Wamurashe mumashusho menshi, ubu uraza "ikirere kibi" ...

- Umuhanzi uwo ari we wese agomba kwizera guhitamo Sergey Vladimirovich agategereza ko yahuye n'icyifuzo cyawe. Burigihe ni ikirere cyiza ku kibuga cyayo, inshingano zegeranye no gusetsa. Biragoye gusa kugirango umugabane wawe winshingano ukura. Kandi umuhanzi, ndatekereza, mugikorwa cyakazi, ugomba kubikuraho, bibabuza, kuko utangira kukuyobora, ukaba utaragukurikira, wirebera hanze. Ariko iyo shobuja nkuyu agaragara, nkuko Sergey Vladimirovich, urumva ko ibitekerezo byawe atari ngombwa, kuko hari umurongo ukomeye uzagutumaho munsi yimbere. Wari urwanijwe n'amarangamutima, ariko umwuga, itanga inkunga iboneye kurubuga kuri buri wese, yaba umuhanzi, cascadener, umukoresha, kandi bihenze.

- Noneho Sergey Ursulak ni kimwe kuri wewe - ntabwo yahindutse kuva "iseswa"?

- Guhagarara ni ikimenyetso cyubuhanga, kandi ibi ni ibya Sergey Vladimirovich. Hamwe nakazi katoroshye, burigihe uburyo bworoshye bwo gutungana kurubuga, icyuma no kurwenya.

- Wari uzi ibishya na Alexey Ivanov "Ikirere kibi" mbere yicyifuzo cyumuyobozi - iyi nkuru yijimye?

- Numvise kubyerekeye igitabo, ariko soma nyuma yo kurangiza igihe cyo kurasa. Kandi birashoboka ko mfite amahirwe, kuko inyandiko iracyasobanura igitabo, kandi kugirango tutongereho ikintu kidakenewe kumiterere, ntabwo byari ngombwa gusoma akazi mbere. Iyi ni inkuru ikomeye. Gutandukana bituma intwari zihitamo bikomeye, rimwe na rimwe inzira itoroshye yo kubaho. Ariko ursulaka burigihe ifite urumuri kumpera yumuyoboro, kuko we ubwe nkumuntu ari ikintu cyiza, kandi burigihe ikinamico nto. Kuri we, ubuzima buracyariho.

- Intwari yawe ni nde?

- Uwahoze ari umusirikare waguye mu kipe y'abantu bahuje ibitekerezo, barengera umwanya w'abasirikare ba Afuganisitani. Yari arambiwe ubuzima mu kirere, kandi yashakaga ko byumvikana, kureka ngo bihinduke umutwe w'ibyabaye, bimufasha mu bikorwa bimwe. Filime igira ingaruka mugihe kuva 1989 kugeza 1999.

- Watangiriye umusore ubikuye ku mutima, ufunguye, ufunguye nk'uwo, wari ufite na Alyasha Karamazov, hanyuma hari abantu benshi bafite amafi abiri, bikomeye, nko mu "bihe bibi." Kandi muri "Iperereza", intwari yawe ni rascal ituje, umwicanyi. Byari byiza gushira mu ruhu rwe?

- Nari mfite ibintu bitatu-bine, Alyosha Karamazov - Biragoye. Kandi ndashimira Yuri Pavlovich Claus, Umuyobozi na "Karamazov", na "Abashakashatsi": Ni umunyamwuga ukeka ko mu ntoki byoroshye kandi ni ubuntu. Ariko "umushakashatsi" ninkuru ifitanye isano, ibitabo bihimbano, ibyiza byose bitsindira ikibi, nubwo nigihombo. Niba kandi tuvuga ibyerekeye "ibihe bibi", noneho Bassas yanjye ni bibi cyane, bifite ishingiro. Akora, avuga, avuga ko, abantu bitiranya bakunze kwiyerekana ko bakomeye, bashoboye intambwe n'ibikorwa, ariko, kubera ko banyuze mu myanya yabo. Kandi kuri njye, hamwe numuhanzi, ibikorwa bye birasobanutse neza.

- Turi hafi hose tukubona mumaso yawe, ariko ushoboye guhinduka cyane. NIKI kirambuye cyo hanze kigufasha gukora ishusho, imiterere?

- Urakoze. Ibi, birasa nanjye byiza kubakinnyi. (Kumwenyura.) Ntabwo nhindura imisatsi. Kandi nkunda gutya. Nibyo, yuri palycha muri pelagia ... Nari brunette n'umusatsi muremure. Birashoboka ko ibisobanuro nkibi, nkitegeko, kugendana nimyitwarire yintoki. Kandi ndabizi gusa, iyi ni ikarita yanjye ya Trump - ubwoko bwisura kuri njye, aho ndimo gusunika mu ntangiriro yinzira. Ariko ikintu nyamukuru ni kimwe - ibintu byamarangamutima yimiterere. Buri ntwari mugihe icyo ari cyo cyose gifite igikorwa kimwe cyarakaye, nubwo cyari cyiza gute, kandi umwe ni umuneza, uko byagenda kose. Kandi muriyi mipaka, ndangije gutangiza.

- Uranyerera "mu ntwari zigoye cyane, kandi muzima urabyumva, soma?

- Byose, kimwe cyangwa indi ntwari ikomoka. Werekana inzira yawe nziza cyangwa ibibi - ikintu cyose mumashusho, ubu bikenewe. Birashoboka, ukesha abantu nkabo, reba neza imbere, kandi bifasha kumva neza abandi. Ariko kuva mu bwana numva abantu neza. Nahoraga nizeraga iyi myumvire, kandi isuzuma ryanjye ryamenyereye ntabwo ryarinze, usibye amakosa menshi.

- Sasha, kuki wagiye muri VGIK?

- Mu myaka cumi n'ine narangije amashuri, cumi na gatanu narasohoye mu cyi. Amaze kugera ku marushanwa muri Mikate, bamenya ko mfite cumi na bane, baravuze bati: "Tegereza undi mwaka." Kandi sinashakaga gutegereza kandi umwaka nanze uyu mushinga.

- Wakonje gute vuba, wanze inzozi zawe?

- Gusa ubuzima hamwe ninzugi zifunguye byari bishimishije kandi bidasanzwe kuburyo byanshizeho kuruta gukina ikinamico.

- Ni iki bakoze muri uwo mwaka?

- ni iki kitakoze! Natekereje ko nzagenda, impumuro uko ari yo yose. Ariko mama yansabye kujya byibuze VGIK kumva - Namusezeranije. Nari mfite imyaka cumi n'itandatu iyo ninjiye.

- Alexandre, kuki washakaga gusezera ku ishuri hakiri kare?

- Byarambiranye, nari maze kugira ikinamico. Kandi muri rusange, ibikorwa byingenzi hanze yinkuta za SHIKE: Kandi urukundo, kandi hamaho haho hamaho hamatsinda rimwe na rimwe rwahoraga, ninshingano zo mu nyanja ...

- Inshingano ?! Noneho wabaye umuntu ufite inshingano?

- Ntabwo bishoboka ko byose byagaragayeshimira Ana hamwe na Nastya.

- Ubutumwa uzahinduka papa, wagutangaje, niba wisuzumye nkuwacitse?

"Ntabwo nashimye uko bimeze, ariko nyuma naje kubona ko nashushanyije kandi ndi umunebwe." Ariko nta kibazo cyuko cyabaye. Mfite inkuru nziza kuriyi ngingo. Igihe Annie yavukaga, narwaye mu rutonde rwa TV "amezi icyenda." Kandi hasi mu ishami ry'ibarura, nasabye umuyobozi Higirinevili, yari akeneye amarangamutima yavuye kuri se ukiri muto, maze aravuga ati: "Nibyo, umunezero ugomba kunezeza." Kandi hano wohereza umuhungu wanjye, kwerekana, yishimiye ... bifata ibyumweru bibiri - mu bitaro bimwe by'abasaruwe, muri igorofa imwe, ndamureba, sinamuzi cyangwa umubyaza hanyuma uvuge uti: "Reba". Nibyo amarangamutima yose yari. Nyuma yamasaha abiri, igihe nagumye twenyine, nabyo, natwikiriye. Kandi muri ako kanya nasanze ibibaye. Ariko natangajwe na itandukaniro - Ubuhanzi

kandi ari ngombwa.

- Kandi na Nastya, byari bimeze bite?

- Na GATSya, nanjye nari nkeneye kandi gusubira inyuma.

- Abagabo benshi bemera ko bashaka umuhungu w'imfura, nawe?

- Nishimiye cyane ko mfite abakobwa babiri beza. Kandi muri rusange nari nishimiye gusa kwita kubana.

- Ukeneye urukundo cyangwa gukunda gukora?

- Nta byumvikanye ahantu hose mu rubanza urwo arirwo rwose. Ariko urukundo nikintu nkicyo akiri muri wewe.

- Muri uru rubanza, ntubyitayeho, urukundo rudakenewe cyangwa rudasanzwe?

- Urukundo ni ibyiyumvo bigaragara kandi bikayobora umuntu muruhande rwumucyo. Kandi ni ibintu cyangwa bidakenewe - abona gusa mugihe urukundo ruzimye.

- Umeze nkuwabaye mumyaka icumi - cumi na bitanu ishize? Mu rukundo - Nigute Kumutwe Wowe hamwe numutwe wawe? ..

- Ndatekereza ko nahindutse. Ibintu byose bitandukanijwe nigipimo cyinshingano zubuziranenge bwamagambo yabwiwe namagambo, kubwibikorwa.

- Ni ngombwa kuri wewe, umukobwa wawe arema, uri uruziga?

- Ikintu nyamukuru nukugabanya ibitekerezo mubuzima. Kandi ntiwumve, ni ngombwa cyane ukuntu ibyiyumvo byabantu bose nubucuti ari ngombwa. Ikintu cyibanze nuburyo bwo kubaho kubantu.

- Nyoko ni umwarimu wu Burusiya nubuvanganzo. Yari akomeye nawe?

- Hamwe na nyina, imyandikire no kwandika intoki ubuzima bwanjye bwose. . Ariko ntabwo ari akababaro. Yari afite ibice bibiri byingenzi mubuzima bwe: inzu nakazi. N'inzu n'ibikorwa byose bifitanye isano nayo ni mbere. Kandi igitekerezo cyinzu kirimo abana, abuzukuru, bene wabo benshi. Biragoye cyane kwandikira kurwego rwarwo rwinjiriweho munzu, kuko byose bya Volley-bilike bireba hanze, kandi yirote ko isi imwe yubatswe.

- Byashyizwe mubuzima bwawe?

- Mu buzima bwanjye, nta muntu, unyandikiye, ntabwo urimo.

- Nigute ?! Wavuze ko bihagije birakinguye hamwe na bene wabo n'inshuti?

- Amakuru yanjye kuri bene wabo ni nka Instagram kubantu. Isukuye kandi itanga dosiye. Hamwe n'inshuti - bitabaye ibyo: Ntibashobora kumenya ibintu bibi bimwe. Kandi hafi ibona ibyiza byose kandi byiza. (Kumwenyura.)

- Urashaka gukuraho bimwe cyangwa ingeso?

- Birumvikana, uhereye kubita itabi n'ubunebwe. Nshobora gutangira ikintu - kandi ntabwo cyarangije, gutinda kugenda mu nzozi. Mubana no kuba muto, len yafashije ibitekerezo, none rimwe na rimwe bihagarika gukina. Igomba kuba irwana na we.

- Uratekereza ku bihe bizaza?

- Birumvikana ko mfite gahunda yo kwihorera. (Aseka.) Ariko ikintu cyingenzi kibaho, byuyu munsi.

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