Ngubani oqala ekuseni - uNkulunkulu uyakunika lokhu. Kubukeka sengathi umoya wasekuseni kakhulu wesiteshi sokuqala u-Irina Pudov uqamba leso sisho sayo yonke into eyikhulu. Intombazane ethambile ephansi (uma kungenjalo awukwazi ukusho) nje akhanyisa amandla amahle. Eduze kwakhe kubonakala sengathi impilo yinhle futhi igcwele okutholakele okumangalisayo. Kunoma ikuphi, u-Irina uqobo uyaqiniseka. Kubukeka sengathi konke kulula kuye - ukwakha umsebenzi, alethe amadodakazi amathathu futhi athande umuntu oyedwa iminyaka eyishumi nesikhombisa. Imininingwane - engxoxweni nomagazini "Atmosphere".
- U-Irina, wazalelwa eKhanty-Mansiysk. Kungani uhambe? Bekusondelene kunentokazi enjalo?
- Cha, angikwazi ukusho ukuthi ngicindezelekile lapho. Isifunda senza ukuthi sikwazi ukuguquka. Kwaxoxwa nangobuntu obuningi abadumile, osopolitiki. Kubandakanya uSergey Sobyanin, lapho ebengakamenyelwa eMoscow, kodwa esifundeni sethu waba nesisindo esiningi. Kuze kube manje, nginokuxhumana okusondelene nabanye, futhi ngezikhathi ezithile ngiza ezweni elincane. Ngokuvamile, ngasebenza enkampanini yomsakazo eyingqayizivele lapho izinto sezikhule khona, manje eziholayo zibambile kakhulu umabonakude abaphethe. Isibonelo, umphathi wami oseduze kwakunguVyacheslav Murugov, manje umqondisi jikelele wemithombo ye-CTC ebambe. Kepha kwakudingeka ukuqhubekela phambili, ukuthola imfundo ephakeme. Futhi kulokhu, abantu baya eMoscow noma ePeter. Ngikhethe iMoscow.
UTina Kandelaki ngandlela thile wathi abantu abanemibuzo eminingi baya kubuntatheli. Kwakuyini amandla okushayela?
- Angikwazi ukuzibiza ngentatheli ngomqondo ophelele wegama. Ubuntatheli obungathi sína angidonseli, ngokuziphatha, ngokwengqondo. Ngendlela, indawo yami yokuqala yomsebenzi eMoscow iyiphephandaba laseMoscow Komsomolets, umnyango wokuphenya. Kepha ngagcina lapho izinsuku ezimbalwa. Ukuxoxa nomuntu osanda kubulala umkakhe, ngaphezulu kwamandla ami. Nganginezinsolo ezincane kwalokho okubizwa ngokuthi yimpilo yangempela. Kepha uma uchwepheshe, khona-ke kufanele enze ngaphansi kwanoma iyiphi ingcindezi, noma iyiphi indlela yokucindezela. Ngingumuntu osebenza kangcono endaweni engcono lapho engikhuthaza, ukudumisa. Ngakho-ke cha, angiyena intatheli, ngingumethuli we-TV.
- Kepha ithelevishini yimvelo eqinile, futhi umncintiswano usthí.
- Cishe yebo, kepha le yindlela yokumelana nokungazethembi okuncane kimi. Kulula kimi kunokunye okuthile. Ngiyawathanda kakhulu ithelevishini yaseRussia, sinokuningi ngokweqiniso lokho. Ikakhulu, kuphrojekthi "namuhla. Usuku luqala. "Sinesimo esihle kakhulu. Saqala abangane futhi ngosuku ngo-Eva lwesikhathi esisha sethelevishini safika eRodion Gazmanov ezweni ukuze lithobe ama-kebabs. Kunabaningi abantu abajwayelekile kuthelevishini okuthakazelisa kuye ukuxhumana, cishe wonke umuntu unezinto zokuzilibazisa ezikhanyayo. Vele, ukuncintisana kukhona, kepha kulungile, ngiyacabanga. Akunakwenzeka ukuthatha isikhundla esifanayo iminyaka eyishumi. Umuntu uqala ukusebenza izifanekiso ezikhona. Uhlala emoyeni, ekhuluma nesimenywa, futhi ngokwakhe askrola imicabango: "Mmm, yini okufanele ipheke isidlo sakusihlwa namuhla? Kepha kuMama wakusihlwa uzofika, mhlawumbe kungcono ukuya kwi-cafe? " Futhi lo "sihlahla" ogijimayo "emehlweni uyabonakala kakhulu. Kubi.
"Bengineminyaka eyishumi nesishiyagalombili, umyeni wami wesikhathi esizayo usemdala ngeminyaka emihlanu. Wayengumphathi wenqubomgomo yethu, futhi ngambhalela inkulumo." Imvunulo, iqoqo le-vladi
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- Uneminyaka embalwa edlule sahola uhlelo emhlabeni jikelele. Bathi, yimi kuphela emazweni okuqala amathathu amathathu atholwa okusha, bese kuba khona ukubona kudalulwe.
- Ngizothi ngaphezulu: Ubona izwe njengendawo yokudubula. Ungeze uTrafalgar Square, kepha "endaweni". Uyabona ukuthi une-Standapov nempilo eyisithupha nempilo yalowo ophula itiye, futhi kunemizuzu eyishumi nanhlanu. Ngemuva kwalokho ozakwabo babuza: "Sasinjani isimo sezulu?" Kubukeka sengathi kunemvula. Empeleni ungakhumbuli. Ngakho-ke yimaphi amazwe amathathu nantathu ?! Vele nge-wesibili-yesithathu yeka ukuqaphela noma yini ngaphandle kwezikhathi zokusebenza.
- Futhi, ngendlela, laliyini izwe lokuqala?
- Angikhumbuli uhlobo oluthile lwaseYurophu. (Ehleka.) Kepha ngicabanga ukuthi empeleni akukufanele ukusebenza ekuhambeni isikhathi eside: imizwa kufanele iphanziswe ngokwakho ukuthi iyathakazelisa kumbukeli. Ukuhamba kuyibhizinisi labancane, ngobunqunu nomoya ekhanda elingakujabulela uhambo oluya kulo lonke ikhoyili: "Futhi zinjani izingane ngaphandle kwami lapho? Ulele? " Ngiyayazi ngesipiliyoni sami. Ngemuva kokuzalwa kwamadodakazi, ngangizama ukubuyela ekuhambeni, kwakukhona amanye amaphrojekthi, kodwa ngaqonda ukuthi i-Fed ihambile. Angifuni ukushiya kude izinsuku eziyishumi, angifuni ngisho nokushiya abathathu, ngiphuthelwa ngumndeni.
- Ngabe usethole umyeni kuthelevishini?
- hhayi. Phakathi kokunye, nginenye indawo yomsebenzi - ngifundisa inqubo yokukhuluma, telemetry, ngithembisene umsoco. Futhi nakhu ngolunye lwenkulumo yokuqala yokubhala izivivinyo kosopolitiki - ukhetho lwesikhundla seMeya eKrasnogoGork. Sibe neqembu elincane kakhulu, kodwa le-Creative, futhi okhethwe ngokwanele bebesencane ngokwanele - manje uneminyaka engamashumi amane kuphela. Futhi-ke kwakuyishumi nesishiyagalombili, umyeni wami wesikhathi esizayo iminyaka emihlanu ubudala. Wayengumphathi wenqubomgomo yethu, futhi ngabhala inkulumo. Futhi yize umuntu wethu engazange anqobe, ngenxa yalo mkhankaso okhethiwe esihlangane naye.
- Sitshele ukuthi ungaphila kanjani iminyaka eyishumi nesikhombisa nendoda eyodwa? Ngqo ngokuqondile ngezikhathi zamanje.
- Eqinisweni, akukho lutho olumangazayo ngathi noSasha kulokhu. Mhlawumbe, lokhu kuheha okufanayo, kepha phakathi kwemvelo yethu ngababili abanjalo kukhona abambalwa. Isibonelo, ozakwethu, umgcini we-TV u-Ira Sasha, izingane ezine, zonke zivela komunye umyeni, futhi zindawonye iminyaka eminingi. Ngakho-ke kimi kuyinto engaphandle kochungechunge lokuphuma.
"Ngemuva kokuzalwa kwamadodakazi, ngangizama ukubuyela ekuhambeni, kodwa ngangiqonda ukuthi ngisondliwa. Angifuni ukuhamba, ngiphuthelwa ngumndeni." Gqoka, uhlobo lwe-lipinskaya
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- Ingabe kwenzeka kuyenzeka njalo noma kusebenza ebudlelwaneni?
- Isimo sengqondo esijwayelekile ezinkingeni, anele. Angicabangi ukuthi kufanele kube nenye indlela enenhlanhla enkulu yokuhlangana ngengozi eyikhulu. Kepha abantu abanengqondo bangahlala bethatha isinqumo esifanele, bathola ukuyekethisa, bahlele kahle izinto eziza kuqala. Kunabantu abavikela ngokuqinile isikhundla sabo, kodwa angibaphathi.
- Ekuqaleni wawusendleleni, cishe awubonanga, mhlawumbe.
- Yebo, uyimfihlo! (Ehleka.) Umsebenzi wokuphuthelwa. Woza - Futhi futhi nemizwa emisha. Ingabe lo muntu lowo ofanayo? Futhi kubukeka sengathi kusha. (Ehleka.)
- Izingane ezintathu - ingabe bekuyindlela yobuqili yokukugcina usekhaya?
- Lesi isenzo sethu esicabangelwe futhi esihlelelwe ngokuphelele. Sinezingane - isimo sezulu, azikho izingozi ezinjalo. (Ehleka.) Futhi ngangiqonda ukuthi ngengane ngidinga ukuhlala okungenani iminyaka embalwa. Asiphathi ikakhulukazi. Futhi uma uthatha isinqumo ngengane yesibili yesithathu, kuyacaca ukuthi ukuhamba akukhanyi ngeminyaka emihlanu kuya kwayisithupha ezayo.
- Cishe unenhlanhla nendodakazi yokuqala, akazange anikeze inkathazo, yini onqume kanjalo kalula ukuba ngumama omkhulu?
- Kwakunenhlanhla yokuthi azikho izinkinga ezikhethekile zempilo. Kepha angikwazi ukusho ukuthi i-nastya inomlingiswa wezingelosi. Unenkani futhi uzophikelela ngokwawo kuze kube yilapho efiselekayo ezothola. Owesibili, u-Alena, ngaphambili kwakuyizinkinga nhlobo nkinga, futhi manje kuba yi-hooligan. Okwesithathu, anya, kuvumelana nawo wonke umuntu, kepha intombazane ekhohlisayo kakhulu iyakhula. Ngizosho lokhu: Ngengane yokuqala uzizwa uphathosi, ukuthi intuthuko kangako yathola i-nastya, waya enkulisa eyimfihlo, ogogo nomkhulu "badansa". Futhi izingane eziningi, ezondlebe uyakuba. Futhi ingadi yesifunda yaphenduka yaba yinhle futhi itholakele emtholampilo. Angiboni umehluko nhlobo.
- Manje asebekhulile eseqalile isikole. Bajoyine kanjani umbuso wesikole?
- Abadala bathanda, wenza zonke izifundo uqobo, ngaphandle kwezikhumbuzo. Futhi kuhle, ngoba ezinye izinto angizikhumbule: ngokwesibonelo, ngibheka ukuthi zixoxa kanjani ngesephulelo somusho engxoxweni yezingane .... Isengezo - Kuyini? Nge-Alaina, angazi. Kudlule amasonto amabili, akukho lutho olunzima kubo okwamanje. Amantombazane aya esikoleni solimi, futhi uNastya usefundise izilimi ezintathu: isiNgisi, isiFulentshi nesiShayina.
"Ngengane yokuqala uzizwa u-hyperlence. Futhi izingane eziningi, ezolile wena ziba." Gqoka, uhlobo lwe-lipinskaya
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- IsiShayina ngani? Ngabe ucabanga ukuthi kuyadingeka ngekusasa?
- Banomfundisi opholile kangako! Ungumnikazi wolimi kahle, uhola amakamu ehlobo eHainan, futhi, okubaluleke kakhulu, unaka izingane kakhulu. Izifundo zibuye zibe zithakazelisa, ngobuhlakani. Isibonelo, imibala abayifundisayo ezingomeni eziku-YouTube. Ungacabanga ukuthi yini i-buzz - ungahlala ocingweni ocingweni!
- Ingabe ukhawulela izingane ekhaya ekusebenziseni amagajethi?
- I-smartphone nekhompyutha kusenawo kuphela omdala. I-Nastya inezindlela ezisemthethweni zokuchitha isikhathi kwi-Intanethi - kukhona ingosi enjalo. Silusizo kakhulu. Mhlawumbe, kulo nyaka kuzodingeka ukuthi uthenge ikhompyutha ephakathi - kuyadingeka ukuze utadishe. Kepha ocingweni nakwithebhulethi, ahlala engahlali. NgeMigqibelo nakuSonto, ungabona amakhathuni, kwesinye isikhathi ekuseni uma unesikhathi. Bavuka ekuseni, ngamahora ayisithupha emilenzeni.
- Izinyoni zakuqala, njengomama wazo. Kepha awunayo i-TV, awuboni yini umbukiso wakho?
- Kungani? Kukhona isicelo esihle kakhulu sesiteshi sokuqala. Kubalulekile futhi ukulandelela lokho okwenziwa ozakwethu.
- Ukuthandwa kwakho kuthinta indlela yokuphila yomndeni?
- Kubukeka kimi ukuthi manje abantu abaningi abathokozisayo neziteshi eziningi ze-TV, izimbungulu zevidiyo. Vele, isiteshi sokuqala sihlala singowokuqala, futhi lapho ngiqala ukusebenza lapho, ngifunde ukuqashelwa. Kepha angingikhathazi nhlobo. Isibonelo, ehlobo saya kubangane e-Anapa, bane-chain yehhotela. Futhi ngabhala ngokomuntu uqobo nge-Instagram: "Kuhle kanjani ukuthi sihlale sihlangane, sikubone isidlo sakusihlwa!" Kepha ngaphandle, laba bantu abazange babonise isithakazelo sabo nganoma iyiphi indlela, abafikanga kimi - bakhombisa ubuthana ekuphileni kwangasese. Kwamangala.
- URodion Rounion Godion Gazmanav wakhumbula umhlangano wakho wokuqala: wasondela kuye ukukala ukukhula ...
- Yebo (Ehleka), Cabanga, futhi angizange ngilungise lo mzuzu ngememori ngize ngikhumbuze. Nginokuhlaselwa okunjalo kokuqondisa. Yize kulokhu, isisusa asiqondakali ngempela: futhi ngingukukhulisa okuphansi ngokwayo, yini okufanele ngiyenze?
- Yini ebalulekile kuwe ekuxhumaneni? Ubani obengasebenza naye?
- Angikwazanga ukusebenza nalabo abagibela konke ngaphansi kwami. Kubalulekile ukuqonda ukuthi umuntu ngeke akuphonse emoyeni, uzokuthatha okuphakelayo futhi anginike ukuphuma. Kunengozi kakhulu, etholakala okufakwe esikhundleni, kubukeka sengathi uzophuma. Noma bavalelwa hhayi kuwe kuphela, kodwa futhi nakulesi sivakashi, empeleni, konke esimi. Kunzima kakhulu ngalokhu. Kepha i-rodion ayikho kubo. Futhi ngiyathanda ukuthi inikeza imibono ethokozisayo, yonke imidlalo ehamba emoyeni, yasungulwa. Ivuselela i-ether, futhi izivakashi ziyaqonda ukuthi singaphumula nathi. Sinohlelo oluhle.
"USasha ufuna ukuthola ilayisense kaCaptain. Sobabili siyathanda ukuchitha isikhathi emanzini saqala ukuyazi ngomkhumbi"
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- Kuyamangaza ukuthi usenenombolo yomculo ehlanganyelwe ngeRiona. Uthole iziqu esikoleni somculo.
- Nginemfundo yomculo, kodwa angisiye umculi. Futhi eduze kwe-pro, njenge-rodion, mina ngandlela thile ngibonisa amakhono ami kule ndawo. Noma, mhlawumbe, kungaba ngcono. Ngingesabi, kepha ngifuna kakhulu. (Emamatheka.) Ngokunokwenzeka, vele, okuthile kuzoqhamuka nokuthile. Ngonyaka odlule, umngani wami nomngane wami babandakanyeka ku-vocabs, futhi basafunda ukudlala ukulele, akunzima kakhulu. Waya emidansweni.
- USasha ufana nokulula ukusukuma, njengawe?
- Cha, kukhulu futhi kuphakeme, ngakho-ke kunzima ukuyikhulisa. (Ehleka.) Eqinisweni, kumele kushelelezi kancane kancane. Uhlakaniphile kakhulu, kepha kuhle. Ngivila kakhulu lokho okujwayelekile engosini, angikwazi ukubhalisa. Ngiyazi ukuthi umyeni wami uzokwenza kangcono. (Ukumamatheka.) Kepha manje, kungashiwo, kwatholakala umcimbi we-opochal empilweni yethu - uSasha ufuna ukuthola ilayisense kakaputeni. Sobabili siyathanda ukuchitha isikhathi emanzini futhi saqala ukuyazi ngomkhumbi. Sizoxosha izikebhe ezinkulu zesikebhe. Sesivele saba nokuhamba nge-Brig eneminyaka eyikhulu leminyaka, kwaqhamuka ithimba elipholile kakhulu, kwakukhona izingane, iminyaka eyisithupha. Isikhathi esihle kakhulu esichithwe! Saqala nokucabanga ngokwenza lokhu njengesikwele sokuvakasha. Abantu bantula ngempela ukufika kwencazelo. Ngendlela, ngabona ukuthi ulwandle oluvulekile lusebenza ngomlingo kubantu, ngisho nakwabancane. Woza kumhambi wethu osemusha uGlebi, owayecabanga ngamagagasi: "Gleb, ucabangani?" "Ngempilo". Angicabangi imicabango, kepha le mizwa, okuhlangenwe nakho kuzohlala enkumbulweni yakhe. Ngendlela, nginomngane - ukukhathazeka okudume kakhulu kwethonya u-Alexander Eliseev. Futhi ushumayela ngempilo egcwele imizwelo. Futhi kuphi, ungahambaphi, sivula izikhala ezintsha?
- Yebo, ekugcineni, amathiphu amahlanu ukuze usuku luhambe kahle.
- Sivuka siba ngokushesha emgqonyeni. Ngimi imizuzu emine kuya kwayisithupha. Ngemuva kwalokho ungenza isithako sokwenza umzimba ube yi-WOKEN. Emva kwalokho, ngiphuza ikhofi, ngiyivule eTurk. Ungayithandi ikhofi, ungaba netiye - kubalulekile ukwenza uhlobo oluthile lwesiko. I-Frequency Plan yosuku, amacala aqopha ku-Notepad futhi agubhe okuvele kwenziwe. Ngiphefumulelwe ukuthi konke kulawulwa. Ngithanda ukuza nesigqoko esithile sesimo sezulu: i-lipstick ebomvu, gqoka amacici amahle - qamba, ngenye igama, kowesifazane kubalulekile!