Kukholakala ukuthi lokhu kuhle lapho umuntu enza ngenkuthalo yokuphila kwakhe. Kepha lapha umlingisi onekhono, ophumelele kakhulu nobaba wezingane ezintathu zePavel Trubiner, konke kuhlukile: Uyayithanda inkulumo ethi "Izinkanyezi zihlangana." Ngakho-ke ukhuluma ngekusasa lobuchwepheshe naye. Imininingwane - engxoxweni ngenkinga yo-Ephreli yomagazini we-Atmosphere.
- UPaul, ngandlela thile wathi isikole sasiphindwe kathathu, kepha wawunezihloko ezimbili ozithandayo: izincwadi, eziqondakalayo, ne-biology, ezingajwayelekile.
"Ngikuthandile i-biology uqobo engingazi ukuthi kungani, kodwa angikaze ngibe nanoma yiziphi izinhlelo ezinde ngokudlala ngamqondo." Futhi izincwadi zazithanda, kepha ukufunda kwakungeyona inkanuko yami. Kepha ngafundisa ngentokozo lezinkondlo esazicelwa ngazo, futhi ngangithanda ukuyifunda lapho ngiye ebhodini. Kuliqiniso, ngikwenzile, ngididekile, kwakunamahloni, ngakho-ke ngaqala ukujika ukuze ngibonakale ngizethemba kakhulu. Mhlawumbe ngakho-ke ngaya emsebenzini ozosebenza.
- Ngobudlelwano nabantu ofunda nabo, unamahloni?
- Konke kwakuhluke ngokuphelele lapha. Futhi bangangishaya, futhi ngakwazi, ukunginika kanjani. Akukho lutho olukhethekile ngakho. Ngokubona kwami, lapho abantu abadala beqala ukucacisa ukwehluleka kwabo iqiniso lokuthi babenezinkinga esikoleni, konke kuyize. Vele kunezindaba ezisindayo. Kepha kubonakala kimi ukuthi izingane azikho ezimweni ezimbi kakhulu, ikakhulukazi abafundi bezikole eziphakeme, kufanele babhekane nakho. Ukube bengicasulwa, angikaze ngikhonondele kupapa, owayekwazi ukuza nokujezisa umuntu.
Nonkosikazi wakhe, umlingisi noMqondisi uYulia Melnike, nendodakazi uLiza
Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kwe-Pavel Trubiner
- Waya esikoleni ngentokozo noma waphupha ukuphuma ekuphumeni kwakhe?
- Kuyiqiniso, kunzima ukuya esikoleni, ikakhulukazi ikilasi nge-Seventh, lapho unedayari kuphela kuphothifoliyo yakho, incwajana eyodwa yamashidi angamashumi amane nesishiyagalombili futhi mhlawumbe incwadi yejometri. Awuguquki lutho, kepha ubhala konke kubhukwana elilodwa. Mina ngesizathu esithile sengigqoke irekhodi le-tepi. Kwakuyi-perestroika, futhi ngobunzima obuthile sasingewona owathi.
- Ubuyintsha efanelekile, akazange athathe insimbi engavunyelwe, wazama ukubhema, ukuphuza? Nezinsuku zothando esikoleni zazivele zikhona?
"Eminyakeni yesikole ngangivele ngingenele ugwayi, kodwa ngazama utshwala okokuqala muva nje endaweni yaseshashalazini. Saphuza ubhiya, wapenda ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, futhi kwakuhlekisa kakhulu. Hhayi-ke, bekungekho lapho ngaphandle kothando lokuqala, kwakunguthando oluhle kakhulu. Kuliqiniso, engifunda naye ekilasini nomfana ekilasini lamadala ashade eneminyaka eyishumi nesithupha, kanti omunye umbhangqwana wayenengane kancane ekugcineni kwebanga leshumi nanye. Futhi bahlala ndawonye, futhi izingane zazalwa.
- Awufundwanga eGitis, nasekolishi nalo?
"Yebo, kusekolishi laseGolulovsky, engifunda naye esikoleni esikhulu." Ngemuva kwalokho besifuna ukufaka inkambo eyodwa, ngakho-ke sizothola iDiploma Guitis, kepha lokhu akwenzekanga. Isikhathi saba nzima, maphakathi namashumi ayisishiyagalolunye, ngakho-ke ngangifuna ukushintsha noma yini kunoma ngubani.
- Ngakho-ke uphume umculi osemusha kakhulu ...
- Yebo, sekuvele sekuvele ekolishi uTabukov (ngeshwa, u-Oleg Pavlovich akazange abe), futhi sasingamaphayona. Futhi wenza lokho ababengeke akwenze, ngoba abantu abasha akudingeki uhlelo olujwayelekile olwafundiswa esikhungweni seshashalazi, kodwa okunye ukukhetha kwezinto zokufunda. Ngemuva kwebanga lesishiyagalombili, siseyingane encane, kungavulwa ngokuphelele ukudlala "u-Anna Karenina" noma "i-Ivanova" eminyakeni eyishumi nanhlanu neshumi nanhlanu.
"Ububanzi bomsebenzi akunandaba. Into ebaluleke kakhulu ukuqonda umuntu osezingeni eliphakeme. Uma kukhona okukhona."
Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kwe-Pavel Trubiner
- Iziqu zekolishi oleg pavlovich ziye e-repertoire Theatre. Futhi-ke awufuni ukuthi lokhu noma ebusheni bami akuzange kusiqondi sonke isidingo sendawo yokuphila komlingisi osemusha?
- Siqale ukufunda ngalowo nyaka lapho eqeda impilo eyodwa futhi wazalwa entsha, ngakho-ke kwinqubo yokufunda, kunoma yikuphi, ngavele ngathola izinkohliso kuleli banga. Ekupheleni kwesikhungo, i-cinema yayingasuswanga, ngakho angizange ngiqonde ukuthi ngizowenza yini umsebenzi ozosebenza. Futhi ukuze ukhonze ngaleso sikhathi enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini, kwakudingeka kube yisigameko esinamandla, ebengingenjalo ngaleso sikhathi. Angikhombisi ndawo, kepha lezo zinkomba ezimbalwa ezaze zafika kithi ngemidlalo yokutholwa iziqu zazingafani, esingajaha. Kepha angizisoli ukuthi ngaleso sikhathi akazange anikeze umphefumulo wakhe ku-repertoire yemidlalo yaseshashalazini. (Ehleka.) Ngithole okuningi kakhulu njengoba ngicabanga.
- Uyithenge kamuva, futhi labo bokuqala ngaphandle komsebenzi babenzima kuwe, esindayo?
- Ngithole iziqu ekolishi ngeminyaka eyishumi nesishiyagalolunye, mhlawumbe, ngakho-ke angikwazi ukusho ukuthi bekukhona iminyaka yokuhlushwa. Cha, khona-ke kwaba nesikhathi esimnandi, ngangingacabangi ukuthi bangaki ontanga yami, ukuthi benzeni ngokulandelayo. Slear phansi.
- Ngabe ufuna umsebenzi noma wakuthola?
- Yini eyadlula, yabe senza. Ukuthile okujwayelekile kwaphonswa ngaphandle, kwenye indawo okwakuhehayo, ndawo ndawo - hhayi kakhulu. Leyo misebenzi engayanga emphefumulweni ayizange imlimaze isikhathi eside. Kepha kwakukhona amakilasi engiwathandile futhi aphefumulele.
- Ngokwesibonelo?
- Sibe nesikole sebhola lezingane esimangalisayo kwisakhiwo sezemidlalo, futhi sabasiza, ukufana okuhleliwe. Kwakukhona amasethi ezingane ambalwa, iminyaka emithathu noma emine yayikhona. Kuliqiniso, akuzange kulethe imali. Ngakho-ke ngokufana ngathengisa amakhompyutha. (Emamatheka.) Ngendlela, sobabili no-Olga, unkosikazi wesikhathi esizayo, wahlangana.). (Olga Mukhortova, iqhawe eliningi ePentathlon. - Cishe. Author.)
USen Son Alexander iminyaka eyishumi nesishiyagalolunye, uyawuthanda umjaho wezithuthuthu
Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kwe-Pavel Trubiner
- Wayesevele esengumsubathi onesihloko esithi?
- Yebo, iqhawe eliningi, wayenezinkomishi eziningi.
- Uthathe iminyaka emithathu ngemuva kokuphela kwesikhungo. Isivele itholwe kakade noma itholwe kangako?
- hhayi. Simane nje asicabangi ngakho, amawayini ayo yonke intshiseko yobusha.
- Futhi u-Olga akazange adidanise ukuthi ubusemaphethelweni?
- Kubukeka sengathi cha. (Ehleka.) Ngokunokwenzeka, konke - ubuhle kanye nesimo sezezimali - bekungabalulekanga ikakhulukazi. Kwakukhona isibindi namandla amaningi, kunje ... izinto zobusha.
- Uzalwe masinyane indodana yami, futhi lokhu, ngombono, sekuwumanye umthwalo wemfanelo impela ...
- Ngimude, ngisho nangesibili, eminyakeni emine kamuva, akuzange kube nomuzwa kababa. Kulindelwe isikhathi eside kuleli gama. (Ehleka.) Kwabesifazane, umuzwa womama ubekwa yimvelo, futhi kufanele sibhalise kwenye indawo, ngakho-ke ngaleyo minyaka angikuqondi lutho. Manje senginendodakazi uLisa, wazalwa lapho sengivele ngingamashumi amane, futhi manje konke kuhluke ngokuphelele.
- Futhi uhlala kuphi no-Olya, nezingane?
- Ngibe nefulethi lapho sahlala khona sonke kanye nomama. Ubaba ushonile kusenesikhathi.
- Kwakungenxa yenhlekelele yokuqala ebucayi?
"Sengivele ngijwayele ukulahlekelwa abathandekayo, ngoba ogogo nomkhulu bashiye ngaphambi kwalokho. Futhi ngesikhashana nje awunankinga kangako futhi uhlanganyela kokuhlangenwe nakho kwethu, mangaki ukuhlanganisa, usho ukuthi emndenini oyinduna manje futhi kufanele avikele umama. Ubaba, ngokuqinisekile angiswelanga, uyantuleka manje, kepha lokhu kuyimpilo.
Esikhathini sokupenda "okumangazayo kobusuku obumhlophe", iqhawe lethu langena ezweni le-ballet. Umlingani wakhe waba u-Elizabeth Boyarskaya
- Ube-ke awuzange ube nenjabulo yangaphakathi ngekusasa lakho?
- Angazi ukuthi ngikuphi, noma umkhulu wangitshela ukuthi konke kwakuyisikhathi sakhe, kodwa ngiphila ngalesi simiso. Angiphoqeleli lutho. Kepha-ke, angihlali emuva. (Emamatheka.)
- Futhi phakathi naleyo minyaka abakaze bawele ezimotweni ezicindezelayo? Ingabe ungumuntu ofanele?
- Mhlawumbe yebo. Kuyacaca ukuthi ukudangala kuvela kumuntu ngamunye ngesizathu esithile, kepha azikho izizwe ezinzima kakhulu zokuziphatha. Ngangihlala ngizitshela ukuthi yini engaba kubi kakhulu. Ngabona engijwayelene nami, abangane ababenesimo esinzima ngokwengeziwe. Futhi akuzange kunikeze isandla sokuhlasela.
- Ekuqaleni kuka-2000s, ngisho nasekupheleni kwawo-90s, ama-serials okuqala, kanye nakubi, kwakudala, kodwa ngisho nakancane. Awunayo, yini okufanele ngihlangane ngandlela thile?
- Ngalesi sikhathi ngangibeka inkampani emangalisayo. Kwakuyinto ebhokisa ibhomu. Iphothifoliyo yami ibiseMosfilm kanye ne-studio. I-Gorky. Ngangishayela ucingo, ngize, futhi konke kwenzeka. Kwakuyisikhangiso esikhulu esifakwe yi-sane, saqokomisa isabelozimali esikhulu. Vele, kuleyo mali angikwazanga ukuthenga imoto, kodwa ngisengifuna imali ebonakalayo. Futhi into esemqoka, ubuso bami bulengilewe ezweni lonke emabhodini ebhodi, kwashaywa ngokubuyiselwa komagazini abaningi. (Ehleka.)
- Kepha ukuqhamuka endimeni enkulu kuze kube manje akasekho masinyane ...
- Yebo, kwenye indawo eminyakeni embalwa. Ngaphambi kwalapho, ngibe nenkanyezi ezikhangisweni. Bese kwenziwa isiphakamiso sokudlala ngochungechunge lwe-TV "kanye ne-infinity," bengikhathazeke kakhulu, kodwa ngavunywa. Ngalokho, konke kwaya kulo msebenzi.
Endimeni kaVadim Roshchina ifilimu yethelevishini "Ukuhamba ngofulawa"
- Namuhla awusakhathazeki kangaka ngamasampula futhi yini icala ngokukhethwa kwamaphrojekthi?
"Ngicabanga ukuthi wonke umlingisi onengqondo uyaqonda: ubuchwepheshe bethu abaluthayo futhi ngomzuzu owodwa omuhle ucingo lungathula, akekho noyedwa ozokushayela kwenye indawo. Ngakho-ke, nakanjani, ngingesaba manje. Yize kunjalo, ngiyakwazi ukuthenga okuthile okufanele ngikukhethe. Uma ngivumelana ne-movie, ngizama ukuyenza ibe ngcono. Kodwa-ke, njengokungathi ubuhlakani noma udlale, ifilimu kungenzeka lingasebenzi. Kwenzeka, yiqiniso, ukuthi ukukhetha okulungile komlingisi endimeni enkulu kuyisihluthulelo sempumelelo. Isibonelo, ngokuthandwa kochungechunge oluthi "Ceremc" ngezindlela eziningi iqhawe le-Charismatic Hero. Kepha futhi, izimo futhi. Ngandlela thile sasihlala nepakethe yokhuni esethe "olukhulu" ku-grimychik, sabukela amasampula abaculi beHollywood ngendima enkulu, ngokwesibonelo, abasibonanga isithombe esivela ku isikrini. Ngakho-ke, ngithi amasampula angokweshumi kwalowo mlingisi ozoba nawo ekugcineni. Yonke into ingezela ukuthi uzokhuluma kanjani noMqondisi, yini abazoba nabalingani bakho, imvunulo kanye nendawo enhle. Ngakho-ke, ngombono wami, akekho umculi angasho ukuthi i-physiogyy yakhe yanqoba u-Oscar. (Ehleka.)
- Ingabe uwathanda ama-movie ebuntwaneni nasebusheni?
- Kakhulu! Njengoba, mhlawumbe, noma yimuphi umfana, ngawathanda wonke amabutho ethu aseSoviet, ikakhulukazi "wakho phakathi kwabanye ...". Manje ngase ngisejimini noJura Golubev, umqeqeshi uNikita Sergeevich, futhi saxoxa ngale filimu. Ngamunye wethu wabheka inani elikhulu lezikhathi. Ngiphinde ngathanda izimbambo zamasosha.
- Uvuma ngandlela thile ukuthi uyayithanda ukuzijabulisa ciminema, ngemuva kwalokho, ukuphuma ehholo, ungahlukumezi okuhlangenwe nakho nemicabango esindayo. Kepha ngicabanga ukuthi awukhulumi ngezokuzijabulisa ezingenalutho, kepha ngalokho okulindele ngemuva kwe-aftertaste - ukubukeka kwemizwa emihle, hhayi umuzwa wokuthi konke kubuhlungu.
- Uqinisile ngezindlela eziningi. Kepha uma uqhathanisa i-cinema lapho ngidubula khona, nokuthi yini engithanda ukuyibuka, lezi yizinto ezihlukile. Futhi imidwebo yezempi iyinkokhiso endabeni yethu. Ngabo bobabili umkhulu, eyodwa yafika eBerlin. Futhi ngisho nogogo wempi wathintana. Kimi, lonke lobu buhlungu buhleli, ngakho-ke ngihamba kakhulu kumafilimu anjalo. Ngasikhathi sinye, ngithanda ukuzijabulisa kwe-Citimema, kepha kungenzeki, kepha imizwa ethwala imizwa, inika ukondla kwamandla. Uphuma ehholo elenqabe, angabethelwanga. Ngiyamangaza ukuzwa ukuthi abanye abaqondisi bathi bazisuse kanjani ama-cineme. Ngemuva kwalokho hlala ekhishini lakho bese uzibuka.
- Futhi esithombeni Konstantin Khdyakova "Ukuhamba ngofulawa" Ngabe udlule?
"Benginamasampula aphelele, kepha ke uKonstantin Pavlovich wangivuma ukuthi akazange acabangele noma ngubani owengeziwe kule ndima. Futhi savumelana naye, saba abangane. Ekupheleni kohambo, wathi: "Njengoba kungumhawu, uPasha, ukuthi asikaze sijwayele." Ungumuntu omuhle kakhulu. Ngijabule kakhulu, ngibonga kakhulu ngeqiniso lokuthi nganginethuba lokudlala esithombeni esinjalo, kodwa futhi ngisebenza nomuntu omuhle kangaka.
Ochungechungeni olusha "Lancet", umlingisi kwadingeka aphindise odokotela abahlinzayo
- Kunezempi eziningi, uKagabashnikov nodokotela kuhlu lwakho lwenkonzo "...
- Empeleni, ngadlala inqwaba yezinhlamvu ezahlukahlukene. Ukuphela kwento ebingekho ku-biography yami yokudala inguhlobo oluhle. Isihambeli esivela esikhathini esizayo angikaze ngidlale. Kepha izimbambo zomlando zanele, ngaba negrafu ye-Orlov, no-Alexander Nevsky, ngisho naseBallet ngangibamba iqhaza.
- Sikhuluma ngefilimu "inganekwane yobusuku obumhlophe", obungakaqashwa. Wenze kuphi i-choreography?
- Lapho kususwa izithombe ezinjalo, ubunzima bokuthi umuntu angaba kuhle ukudansa, futhi akanawo ngempela amakhono amahle kakhulu. Lapho silungiselela lesi sigameko, ngize esiswini soVaganov saya eNikolay Tsiskaridze, okusho lokho, empeleni, hhayi umuntu we-ballet angabonakala ngokushesha. Ngakho-ke, kwifilimu, kwagxilwa ku-chereography, kodwa ukuthi umuntu uhamba kanjani, njengoba ekhuluma. Yize kwadingeka ngisebenze, ngikhathazeke, ngavuka ngiyophoxa futhi ngakwazi ukukwazi ukubhala ama-ballet pa, kodwa, ngokwemvelo, ngaphandle komhlambi kababizi. Abantu baseMelika bathanda ukucabanga ukuthi wonke umuntu uba mkhulu kanjani. Futhi lapho uNatalie Portman esho ukuthi wafunda ukudansa uSwan, uyahlekisa, ngoba ngaleso sikhathi akhombisa i-Dublersh, enomuzwa ebusweni obhekene nobuso obusezingeni eliphezulu. Kepha sazama futhi.
- Futhi umlingani unalo uhlobo oluthile lobuhle obunethalente nobukhali u-Lisa Boyarskaya. Uhlala unenhlanhla kubalingisi abahle ...
- Yebo. Iqiniso. Ngibe nenhlanhla enkulu. Futhi uLisa nomlingisi muhle, futhi indoda iyamangalisa. Akayizinkanyezi ngokuphelele, ungomusa omkhulu, ophendulayo, olula, futhi nanoma ngubani, kungakhathalekile ukuthi unjani nomsebenzi kanye nesimo somuntu. Futhi kubonakala kimi ukuthi le yinto ebaluleke kakhulu.
- Unkosikazi wakho wesibili, uJulia Melnikova, nomlingisi, ukhonza eSatirikon, kodwa, ngombono wami, nethiyetha lakhe leshashalazi linenoveli ejulile kunasemoveli ...
Vele wenza umqulu ngakolunye uhlangothi. Ubevele umqondisi, othweswe iziqu ezifundweni eziphakeme kakhulu e-Irakli Kvirikadze ene-diploma ebomvu. Wakhumula amafilimu amathathu amafushane amangalisayo, omunye wabo waze wavakashelwa eChini, abanye basaya kuyo yonke imikhosi futhi bathole imiklomelo. Kepha une-cinema ephilayo, hhayi umkhosi, ngakho-ke izinkinga zenzeka kwesinye isikhathi. Imidwebo yakhe ayifanelekile ngefomethi: Akekho oshonile lapho, akekho osike ikhanda lakhe ... une-cinema yamagama amaningi, ifilimu yokugcina efushane "i-yuba" iqhathaniswa neMikhalkov yokuqala. UJulia ungumuntu onekhono kakhulu, uzophumelela.
Futhi e-cinema yomlando "The Great" Usemfanekisweni wesigameko sokubala u-Orlova
- Futhi usekhaya umholi, umlingani olinganayo, futhi mhlawumbe uRebelnik ngokuthakazelela?
- Cha, ngingumholi ngomqondo omuhle weZwi futhi uhole umndeni. Vele, ngimukela ezinye izixazululo ezibalulekile. Kepha uma umbuzo usesikhaleni lapho umbono wami ungadingekile, uYenza uJulia.
- Ingabe izingxabano zakho zenzeka?
- Kuyiqiniso, siphikisana, bashaya amapuleti (bahleke), bese sithi siyaphika. Sinakho konke njengawo wonke umuntu, impilo ejwayelekile.
- Wenzani indodana yakho endala?
- Ushesha, uyamthanda umjaho wezithuthuthu, wenza emiqhudelwaneni, futhi manje asafundela esikhungweni semfundo yomzimba kumqeqeshi kule ndlela.
- Awunandaba nokuvela kwesithuthuthu, into eyingozi?
- Cha, yize ngikhathazeka. Lokhu ukukhetha kwakhe, uyakuthanda. Manje uzolungiselela umqhudelwano waseRussia kanye nezigaba zaseYurophu zezinkomishi. Futhi vele uhlanganyele emsebenzini wokufundisa. Futhi indodana ephakathi isesikoleni. Ushayela izimoto. Ngonyaka odlule, wangena kubashayeli bezindiza abahlanu abaphezulu futhi leli hlobo lizoya kokugcina kwemincintiswano yama-amateur ye-CSS eVenice.
- Manje lonke ithemba ngendodakazi ngayinye, ukuthi ngeke akhathazeke. Ngaphezu kwalokho, unezakhi zofuzo ...
- Ake sibheke ukuthi kuzoba yini lokho okuzokhetha. Manje sekusekuseni kakhulu ukukhuluma ngokuthile. ULisa Lisa, ophambukayo, onzima ngisho nangomlingisi eminyakeni yakhe emibili nesigamu. Angikwazi ukusho ukuthi uyintambo evela kithi, kepha uyahamba. Ukhuthele kakhulu futhi uyathanda ukuhamba.
- Ubuwumshado nomsubathi, manje wena nonkosikazi wakho - osebenza nabo. Umphakathi womsebenzi wobudlelwano bemindeni unikeza izinzuzo eziningi kunama-minus?
- Ngokubona kwami, ubukhulu bomsebenzi akunandaba. Into ebaluleke kakhulu ukuqonda umuntu kwelinye izinga le-sacral. Uma unento ebizwa ngokuthi "uthando", akulutho.