Bitandukanye kandi byose hamwe hamwe. Ararat Keskian n'umugore we Ekaterina bahuye hashize imyaka icyenda arakoze ku mushinga rusange. Barebye cyane igihe kirekire bihagije, ariko igishimishije cyatangiye nyuma yubukwe. Ukuntu ikikinyi ubwe gisetsa, bafite umuryango utari umunyapolitiki. Ariko, urukundo rufasha gutsinda ingorane zose no kwivuguruza. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- Catherine, kashe muri pasiporo angahe? Wigeze ubona impinduka zikomeye mugihe wabaye umugore wanjye?
Catherine : Mubyukuri, mubyukuri kashe irahindura ikintu icyo aricyo cyose. Kandi hano ntazishingikiriza kubunararibonye bwihariye, ahubwo nzubakiramo uburambe bwabashakanye, uwo mbanje (mfite ikigo cyubukwe). Ariko kumugore bivuze byinshi. Icyizere cyimbere kigaragara ejo. Iyo umugore, abanye numugabo mubukwe bwabaturage, avuga ko byose bimukwiriye, ni glavit. Kenshi na kenshi kutagira umwanzuro ni gahunda yumuntu. Ariko hariho ibihe mugihe umugore ahuye. Abantu ntibashaka gufata inshingano, hari ubwoba. Niba umbajije niba ugomba kwinjira mubukwe bwemewe, nzavuga ibyo Yego. Ntabwo ari ngombwa gukora ubukwe - ibi ni uko ntacyo bitwaye. Gusa umubano wawe ufite agaciro.
- ariko wakinnye ubukwe bwawe inshuro enye ...
Catherine : Yego, twari dufite ubukwe bune nubukwe. Ariko ubukwe bwose ntabwo bwari gakondo, nibyo twifuzaga. Ntabwo nari gucuruza ibi birori bine, ibiruhuko byubukwe gakondo - hamwe no guterana k'umugeni, gushyingirwa, ibirori.
Ararat : Twashakaga kwicara mu ruziga rufunganye rw'abakunzi, nijoro tuguruka muri Tayilande. Ariko abantu benshi bateraniye kumashusho yacu, nuko nagombaga kujya muri resitora nyuma yayo. Na nyuma - ku kibuga cy'indege. Muri Tayilande, twagize umuhango mwiza. Tumaze gusubira i Moscou, byaragaragaye ko abantu benshi bifuza kwizihiza iki gikorwa. Kubera iyo mpamvu, twabaruye abantu mirongo itandatu! Kandi ubu ni ubukwe nyabwo! Twizihije i Moscou, muri Qazaqistan. Yagendeye, nkuko bikwiye! Kandi nyuma yimyaka ibiri nigice twagize ubukwe.
- Nzi ko wahuye nuburebure bwa kabiri ...
Catherine : Yego, nahise nkora muri sosiyete ya firime. Nari nzi ko Ararat yahuze mumishinga yacu, ariko sinigeze mbibona kurubuga. Twabonye rwose mumashyaka kabiri nyuma yo gufata amashusho. Bwa mbere ntiyigeze anyibuka, kandi mu wa kabiri we ubwe arahura. Twahanahana terefone, twatangiye kuvugana, ntidushaka kumvikana. Rapprochement yabaye buhoro buhoro. Habaye akanya igihe Ararat yagize ubwoba ko twatangiye guhamagarana kenshi. Yagize ati: "Tugomba kugabanya impamyabumenyi z'umubano wacu." (Aseka.) Namwishuye nti: "Ntukiteho, reka byose bigenda." Kandi mu kwezi twaragurutse muri Repubulika ya Dominikani. Twamaranye iminsi icumi nziza. Byari byiza cyane kuburyo numvise: ni ibyanjye. Ndashaka kubana nuyu mugabo. Buhoro buhoro natangiye kwerekana ko nshobora kwizera.
Ati: "Dufite umuryango wa Neapolitan, turacyabona: Turashobora guhobera kuburyo roho izinjira mubugingo, kandi ntidushobora kuvuga umunsi wose"
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Ararat : Ubwa mbere twari inshuti, tureba. Ntabwo ndi umusore, inyuma yanjye hari uburambe bwubuzima, kandi ntigishobora guhita ukande ikintu. Nta kintu nk'icyo: Nabonye kandi ndakundana. Ariko mugihe cyo gutumanaho byabaye.
Catherine : Kumenyana na Mama nabyo byagize uruhare: Twahise dukunda.
- Ararat, wabonye urufunguzo rworoshye?
Ararat : Mama yagurutse i Moscou kuri Premiere ya Filime, barahura, bahita bahinduka inshuti. Ikizamini cyari, ariko Katya yatsinze.
- Kugira ngo ishyingiranwa rikomera, ni ngombwa ko abantu bafite indangagaciro zisa ...
Ararat : Twatangiye kubana kubwimpamvu imwe: Kate nimbaraga zumuryango nkanjye. Ariko icyarimwe dutandukanye cyane. Ndacyasiba: Turashobora guhobera kugirango roho yo mu bugingo izinjira, kandi ntidushobora kuvuga umunsi wose. Dufite umuryango wa Neapolitan.
- Ninde wambere ugiye kwishyiriraho?
Ararat : Kuri njye mbona kenshi. Ndasize umugabo.
Catherine : Guhindura hamwe na Amerika Ararat, Ndi umugore utuje. Nshobora gutaka, ariko imbere ituze. Bumeniya ya Ararat, bubaha imigenzo yumuryango, none abantu bake bararezwe. Kandi imbere yanjye habaye urugero - umuryango wa Data, aho abavandimwe bose kuri buri wese ari umusozi, inkunga. Muri iyi ngingo twarabyemeye: abantu bakuru ni ingenzi kuri twe. Muri icyo gihe, dufite urutonde runini rwibidahuye. Ariko turakundana cyane kandi dukora mubucuti.
- Imbarutso itoroshye yagenze?
Catherine : Imbaruzi zatangiye umwaka nyuma yimyaka itatu, igihe umwana wambere agaragara. Nashyingiwe ku myaka makumyabiri n'itatu, Ararata yari uko mirongo itatu na batatu. Itandukaniro ryimyaka rirakomeye. Hariho imitekerereze yo mu mutwe: Nari umukobwa muto mwiza, kandi ni umuntu ukomeye, urukuta rwa Titanium, inyuma ushobora kwihisha. Ariko igihe umukobwa yavukaga, ibintu byose byatangiye guhinduka, natangiye kubyumva ukundi. Nkunda imitekerereze, kwiteza imbere, abakora mu mwuka. Ararat muri iyi myumvire ni impande zose.
Ararat : Noneho abantu bose babaye abatezimbere psychologue, iyi ni inzira yimyambarire. Ndumva, nshobora kwitondera ikintu, ariko ndabireka rwose mubuzima bwanjye cyangwa gusimbuza iki kintu cyingenzi - oya, ntibishoboka. Nubaha inyungu za Kati. Umugore wishora munzu umunsi wose, arashobora gusara. Mu turere twa nyogokuru na sekuru hafi, barashobora kubana n'abana. Muri Moscou, nta nanny ntashobora gukora: nyuma ya saa sita ari kumwe nabana, kandi twishora mubikorwa byacu. Kandi niba idabuza inyandiko yumuryango - nyamuneka. Ariko niba tuzishimira akazi kacu no kwishimisha kuburyo tutazi uburyo risoma neza kandi ni gute umukobwa wacu EVA, - tekereza neza.
"Twese turota abahungu. Ariko iyo umukobwa agaragaye, urumva ufite umunezero. Ntibishoboka kurwanya ubwuzu bwumukobwa"
Ifoto: Stasy Smith
- Mbere, wakurikizaga ibitekerezo byabakurambere, ndetse ukavuga mu kiganiro: umugore agomba kumenya umwanya we.
Ararat : Ntabwo nanze ibitekerezo byanjye. Umugore agomba kumenya umwanya we, ariko byose biterwa nicyo bucunga ari ugusoma. Nashakaga kuvuga ko umugabo n'abagore bafite umwanya wabo mubuzima, aho bashinzwe inshingano. Ibi binyejana byashizeho kanoni. Umuntu wese agomba kuba ashinzwe imbere yayo. Niba umuntu acumbagira, igishushanyo mbonera, ibikoresho biguruka.
Catherine : Ingufu z'abagabo n'imbaraga ziratandukanye cyane. Mu mugabo, arakomeye, arakaze: Ari ku bintu, kandi umugore afite urukundo no kwiyoroshya. Ariko ibi ntibisobanura igihe cyose cyo gukaraba, gusukura no gukaraba amasahani. Nyobora ubucuruzi bubiri, ariko dufite umufasha murugo, mubana - Nanny. Ntabwo ari ngombwa gukora byose - kugenzura bihagije ubwenge. N'inkuru y'uko umugabo n'abagore bafite zo mu karere kabo, turacyahari.
- abagabo, cyane cyane iburasirazuba, bifite akamaro kanini mu gikoni ...
Ararat : Igikoni ni ingenzi cyane kubuzima bwumuryango, bigomba kuba "kubaho". Hanyuma inzu n'umuryango "bazahumeka." Igikoni ntabwo ari amasahani gusa n'ahantu bifungura ibiryo. Nkunda gusinzira, kandi iyo tugeze i Sochi, mama akoresha "intwaro zabujijwe." Niba bisa na we ko ntamanuka igihe kinini, atangira guteka ikintu giryoshye. Kandi iyi mpumuro yibirungo zimwe (set), ibinuka bikwirakwira munzu, bizirika kuri kanseri yoroheje kuri njye, umpongore mu buriri. Ndi Arumeniya, yamenyereye igikoni runaka. Ubwa mbere, ku gihugu, icya kabiri, kuri Mamina. Kandi hari ibyombo bikaba muri menu yanjye bigomba kugaragara. Katya yahise yiga izi nzoga.
Catherine : Nakuye kuri mama Ararat gutegura ibyokurya byose yakundaga: Ni ngombwa kuri njye kuba mwiza. Ariko ibi ntibisobanura ko mpagaze umunsi wose ku mashyiga. N'uko ejo, ejo, yahisemo gusudira isupu y'ibishyimbo mu majoro cumi n'abiri. (Aseka.) Nari shimiwe: Ntabwo natekeye icyumweru mbere. Ikintu nyamukuru nuko amasezerano abaho hagati yabantu nta muzika wabuze, ibyifuzo bihendutse, bituzuye. Ndi mu buringanire. Niba kandi nkeneye byihutirwa gukora, kandi Nanny ni umunsi w'ikiruhuko, Ararat azaza afite abana kandi ntazarakara ko iyi atari inshingano zabagabo.
"Ararat, abantu bakunze kurota umuragwa, kandi muvugana buri kiganiro ukuntu ufite mwiza." Senake iyi yarahiriye ingufu, ubwuzu?
Ararat : Nagiye muri socki gusa kumunsi wa Sochi kumunsi, twicaranye ninshuti muri societe yumugabo, ndabira. Abantu bose bemeye ko turota abahungu, ariko iyo umukobwa agaragaye - urumva ubwoko bwibyishimo. Umuhungu arakomeye, urashobora kuganira nabana, ahubwo ni ingingo z'umugabo. Ariko ntibishoboka kurwanya umukobwa wawe ugukunda. Ndaryamye kuri sofa, Diyanokka yegera, akandagira neza, nshyira umutwe wanjye ku rutugu, mpumuriza: "Papa, ndashaka kuryama nawe." Ndashidikanya ko umuhungu azabikora. Ahubwo, basimbuka ku buriri bafite akatatanya. Kandi abakobwa ni ubwuzu.
Catherine : Mu ikubitiro, Ararat yashakaga umuhungu. Ndibuka, twakomeje hamwe ku nvamaro yo kwiga imibonano mpuzabitsina. Kandi rwose nasabye kuba muganga: baravuga bati: Buri gihe areba neza. Umuganga agira ati: "Uzagira umukobwa." Ararat yararakaye cyane. Kandi narababaye kubera we. Ninjiye mu modoka, njye - kugenderamo: "Wowe, umukobwa utari umuntu ?!" Yatunguwe n'aya makuru, ariko rero arababara, kandi umwaka umwe amaze kuvuka kwa Eva, yari amaze guta kuva ku kuba dufite umukobwa. Diana amaze kuvuka, amufata mu ntoki ati: "Reka duhe umukobwa wa gatatu kubyara." Ndabona ko we ubwe yarahindutse, yoroshye.
"Ntabwo ari byose nshobora kubwira inshuti zawe, nzabwira umugabo wanjye. Ntabwo ari ukubera ko ntamwizeye. Dufite uburyo butandukanye bwo gusabana"
Ifoto: Stasy Smith
- Ababyeyi benshi bagerageza kuva mubana kugirango bakureho abana bazenguruka: baravuga bati: Bizafasha mubuzima buzaza ...
Catherine : Ntabwo nshyigikiye igitekerezo nk'icyo. Ndetse navuganye na psychologue. Izi nizo mpinga zababyeyi babo, baha agaciro ubwibone bwabo kandi basohoza inzozi zituzuye. Hafi yimyaka yishuri, abana ubwabo batangira kwerekana ko bashishikajwe namasomo amwe. Kuva mu myaka itatu ntukeneye kwikorera. Nanny yacu - hamwe na Pedagogi. Mukemereye, umukobwa w'imfura azi gusoma, kwandika, kubara. Gushushanya neza, biranga chess.
Ararat : Ndemeranya ko abana bakeneye gufata ikintu, cyane cyane mugihe cyibikoresho kugirango atari igihe cyose muri terefone yicaye. Ariko, ndatekereza, kandi ntakintu cyiza nuko umwana atabona umwuka hirya no hino: iva mu muco imwe kugeza ku wundi nimugoroba ni gusa ibirenge byanjye. Hagomba kubaho ubwana. Hano muri Sochi, abakobwa banjye bava - ngaho bafitanye mubyara-bashiki bacu bakuru, byibuze abantu batanu kugeza kuri batandatu kugeza kuri batandatu biruka mu gikari. Buri gihe uhamagare abashyitsi b'abana. Iki gice cyimitekerereze mumajyepfo: Twandikire, umuryango mugari, umubano ufitanye isano.
- Sochi kubwawe - Ahantu h'ububasha?
Ararat : Yego, hariho imbaraga zitandukanye. Imyaka ibiri irashize, nubatse inzu mu mushinga wanjye. Noneho aramwitaho, ndashyigikiye gahunda, kandi aransubiza urukundo. Ndibuka, habaye akanya, uburakari nk'ubwo bwageragejwe ku basezerana banyoboye. Natekereje ko amaguru yose aryamye! (Aseka.) Ariko mu mwaka mushya, ubwo twaranyure, nryamye kuri tapi, ndeba ku gisenge, ndavuga ati: "Mw'umugwiro kuri bose." Ituze ry'imbere ryaje. Uru ni urugo rwanjye rushyushye, rushyushye. Akato twamaragayo. Sinifuzaga kungarukira cyangwa kate i Moscou. Birashoboka ko igihe kigeze gutura aho uri mwiza cyane. Ntabwo nshishikajwe na Moscou, ntabwo njya aha hantu h'umurwa mukuru, aho yari mbere. Byaba bishoboka gutegura ubucuruzi bwawe kugirango ubeho muri Sochi hanyuma ukore muburyo bwo guhugira. Ndizera ko.
- uracyashishikajwe numwuga ukora? Nzi ko washakaga kugerageza mubuyobozi.
Ararat : Nagiye kwiga umuyobozi. Kubwamahirwe, akazi garangije kataravaho. Ariko ntabwo ngiye gutemagura, mu ntego zanjye zegereye zikora muri iki cyerekezo. By the way, kureba kurundi ruhande rwa kamera byamfashije kandi reba umwuga ukora. Amakosa amwe nashoboraga kwemerera, ntagikeneye. Umuyobozi afasha umukinnyi. Nibura, amaso yanjye mu mwuga ukora ntabwo yambariye, sinavuka ibitekerezo byanjye. Birampa umunezero.
- Nyuma yumushinga, ni ubuhe "kurasa" nka "Kaminuza", byari bigoye cyane kubona ikindi, ntabwo ari ugumanura akabari?
Ararat : Ntabwo biterwa nimpano yumukinnyi gusa, kandi nubutwari bwububiko. Umukozi we nukubona umukinnyi muyindi shusho. Ntabwo ari byiza rwose kuvuga ko ikigega cya amplua kidakwiye. Umuyobozi cyangwa Producer afite ubwoba ko ishusho yashinzwe kubakinnyi ishobora kubuza undi, akenshi bibaho ko umukinnyi adatanga kubera uruhare rwe cyangwa atabishaka. Ariko muri sinema, hari ingero zihagije mugihe amashusho avuyemo neza kandi yemejwe arimo gukina izindi nshingano kandi ukomeze umwuga wabo. Ni ngombwa kandi hano, ni uruhe ruhare abakora mu mushinga muremure. Kuva kumurika cyane, gushimisha kandi groteque kugirango ukureho bigoye. Niba tuvuga ibyanjye, noneho ukureho Michael ntabwo byoroshye niba utashize imyaka icumi. Iki ni igihe kirekire cyane. Ariko, nashoboye igihe runaka muyindi mishinga. No kwimura "ntabwo ari ukuri", iyobora, impanura rwose muyindi mico - adventure. Niba kandi wibanze ku bitekerezo mu mbuga nkoranyambaga, uyu munsi Ararat KSEKYAna asanzwe afitanye isano na we.
- Ariko hateganijwe gukomeza amateka ya "Kaminuza. Abasaza "...
Ararat : Yego. Birumvikana ko kugirango ahindure cyane intwari ze ntazabigeraho, abamuteze abumva barabakunda. Nubwo bimeze bityo ariko, abanyeshuri b'ejo bakuze, babaho mu yindi isi kandi bavuga ibindi bibazo. Nzaha Mikayeli uburambe bwubuzima bwanjye. (Kumwenyura.)
- Catherine, kandi ushishikajwe n'akazi k'umugabo wawe?
Catherine : Nibyo. Duhereye ku miziririzo yo gukora, ntabwo akunda kuvuga ku kintu mbere, ariko muri rusange nzi ibibera mubuzima bwe bwo guhanga. Hariho ikintu kitarashyirwa mubikorwa, kireba inzere n'umuyobozi. Ariko nyamara, ngira ngo byose bimeze neza. Kubera icyorezo, kurasa byinshi byahagaritswe, ariko Ararat yari iteganijwe ko Premiere.
"Umwe muri bo ni urukurikirane rwa TV" ibiruhuko "kuri TNT, kandi hari intwari biratandukanye cyane: utoroshye, uwuri oligar.
Ararat : Yego, ntabwo ari Mikayeli, bitandukanye cyane! Ntabwo nemeye kwitabira uyu mushinga kuva kera, hari ibintu ntakunze, ariko turabiganiraho. Kandi ikintu nyamukuru kuri njye ntabwo cyari ibintu, ariko ko nshobora kugerageza ishusho nshya ntaragera. Niyo mpamvu nagiye. Nkuko nabibonye, tuzareba vuba mukirere.
- Ninde wibanze ku guhanga imiterere yabo?
Ararat : Hariho umuntu waturutsemo. Igihe natangiraga kwitegura uru ruhare, hagira hati: "Kora ikintu gisa na Artak Gasparyan" (Iyi niyo nshuti yacu myiza, wahoze ari mu itsinda rya KVN "). Natunguwe nti: "Ubu ni ubwoko butandukanye rwose, gukura hasi, yoroheje." - "Kora isa na Gasparyan, gusa ni ubwanwa." Ariko kubwanjye yari hafi yintwari yintwari Garcia - nyir'ikiro muri filime "11 Inshuti za Owen." Ibyo birashoboka kuri we, nari kurwego runini. Amafuti yari muri Gelendzhik, ubwana bwanjye nabwo nanyuze mu mujyi wo mu majyepfo, ubucuti runaka bw'imitekerereze yari ahari. Kubwibyo, numvise merewe neza.
- Nigute mubisanzwe umara ikiruhuko hamwe numuryango wawe?
Ararat : Iyo aya mahirwe agaragara, iminsi ya mbere naryamye rwose: inyanja, pisine. Ntabwo naje kuri terefone, nkina nabakobwa banjye, humura. Ariko nyuma yigihe gito hariho icyifuzo cyo kujya ahantu runaka, kugirango turebe ibintu. Hafi burigihe dufata imodoka kubukode - kandi tugiye amarangamutima meza.
"Byongeye kandi, niko imibanire yacu irakinguye, dusobanukirwa kurushaho, kwizerana, ubushyuhe"
Ifoto: Stasy Smith
Ufite icyo ukeneye kujya mu rugendo hamwe, nta bana?
Catherine : Rimwe mumezi abiri cyangwa atatu ndashaka gusiga ahantu muminsi myinshi. Twakoranye kubikora mu Burayi, hanyuma muri Yerevani. Dukunda ingendo nkizo, irasubirana.
Ararat : Umuryango wumuryango ukora kumarangamutima. Kandi nta rukundo twimuka nka lisansi, na Inetia. Mu gitondo, baretse abana ku ishuri, barahunga, nimugoroba barahura, interuro ebyiri zimuriwe - kandi abantu bose, gusinzira. Hamwe nurukundo, ibindi byose! Nimugoroba asimbukira mu modoka, bafata ikawa, bagendera mu indogobe, Moscou nijoro, yicaye muri cafe. Umubano udafite urukundo - Seryos! Rimwe na rimwe, dushoboye kuva muri Katya ahantu hamwe byibuze muminsi mike. Inshuro nyinshi zari mu Bwongereza. Ariko ariko ntidushobora kuva mubana igihe kirekire. Ntabwo twarazunguwe nabakobwa bawe, ndashaka kubana nabo. Imyitozo yerekanwe yerekanye ko, no kugenda iminsi ibiri, dutangira kubura, guhamagara kuri videwo bitangira, urashaka kubona iki kintu gito, reba ibyo bakora.
- Catherine, ni ngombwa ko umugabo wawe aba inshuti?
Catherine : Ntabwo ibyo nshobora kubwira inshuti zawe, nzabwira umugabo wanjye. Ntabwo ari ukubera ko ntamwizeye, gusa dufite imiterere itandukanye yumubano. Hariho ibintu tutemerera gukorana cyangwa tuganira, gukomeza ubucuti runaka. Ararat ni ikintu cyegereye kuri njye, ariko inshuti ntabwo. Sinshaka kuba inshuti n'umugabo wanjye, ankeneye undi. (Kumwenyura.)
- Ararat, niba hari ikibazo runaka, ingorane uzasangira nde?
Ararat : Ikibazo kijyanye nanjye gusa, sinzaganira na buri wese. Kandi ni ukubera iki kohereza abandi? Imbere yanjye, mfite urugero rwa data, ntutuza, ubutatu, ufite ibitekerezo bisesengura - Ntabwo nibuka ko yitotombera umuntu. Yahisemo byose - tank! Ndagerageza kubikora. Niba ntekereza kukibazo wenyine hamwe nanjye, birashoboka cyane ko nzabona igisubizo cyiza. Katya yigishwa bafite uburambe ko iyo ntekereje kubintu runaka, nibyiza kutankoraho, bisubirwamo. Rimwe na rimwe avuga ko nongeye kwiheba, niyerekeye. Ariko dufite icyerekezo gitandukanye cyibihe. Njye ku giti cyanjye nizera ko iki ari ukugerageza gusesengura no kubishakisha ibisubizo. Ariko niba ari ibibazo byisi ntashobora guhangana, mfite abantu bake nshobora gusangira.
- Katya, watungura iyo Ararat atangira kukubwira ikibazo kimubabaza?
Catherine : Oya, ariko ndabimenya neza. Irimo gukora kugirango yerekane amarangamutima menshi kuri iyi si. Muri societe yacu, abahungu barabujijwe, cyane cyane mumiryango yo muri Isiraheli. Bifatwa nk'ibigaragaza intege nke. Njye mbona, iyo usangiye ikintu, cyegeranye. Kandi ndashobora kuvuga kure, niko umubano wacu urakinguye, dusobanukirwa byinshi, kwizerana, ubushyuhe. Tumaze imyaka umunani turengana umuriro, amazi n'umuringa b'umuringa. Kandi iyo abashakanye benshi batandukana, twabonye imbaraga zo guhindukirirana, bababarira, emera no konsa hamwe.