Ninde ubona kare - Imana itanga ibi. Birasa nkikibuga kinini cyumuyoboro wa mbere Irina Povov cyerekana amagambo kubintu byose ijana. Umukobwa muto woroshye (bitabaye ibyo ntushobora kuvuga) gusa kumurika imbaraga nziza. Iruhande rwe bisa nkaho ubuzima ari bwiza kandi bwuzuye ibintu bitangaje. Ibyo ari byo byose, Irina ubwayo ni ukuri. Birasa nkaho ibintu byose byoroshye kuri we - kubaka umwuga, bizana abakobwa batatu no gukunda umugabo umwe imyaka cumi n'irindwi. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- irina, wavukiye i Khanty-mansiysk. Kuki wagiye? Hano hari hafi umudamu ufite ingufu?
- Oya, sinshobora kuvuga ko naguye aho. Agace gatuma bishoboka guhindukira. Nabajijwe n'abantu benshi bazwi, abanyapolitiki. Harimo Sergey Sobyayanin, mugihe ataratumiwe i Moscou, ahubwo yari mukarere kacu yari afite uburemere bwinshi. Kugeza ubu, mfite amasano ya hafi na benshi, kandi buri gihe naje mu gihugu gito. Muri rusange, nakoraga kuri sosiyete idasanzwe ya radio aho ibintu byakuze, ubu biganisha kuri televiziyo nini. Kurugero, umuyobozi wanjye ako kanya yari VYYLANLAV Murugov, ubu umuyobozi rusange w'Itangazamakuru rya CTC. Ariko byari ngombwa gukomeza, kwakira amashuri makuru. Kandi kubwibyo, abantu bajya i Moscou cyangwa Petero. Nahisemo Moscou.
Tina Kandelaki hari ukuntu yavuze ko abantu bafite ibibazo byinshi bajya mu itangazamakuru. Ni izihe mbaraga zo gutwara?
- Ntabwo nshobora kwiyita umunyamakuru muburyo bwuzuye bwijambo. Itangazamakuru rikomeye ntabwo ndakurura, mu myifatire, mu mitekerereze. By the way, umwanya wanjye wa mbere wakazi i Moscou ni ikinyamakuru cya Moscou, Ishami ry'iperereza. Ariko namaze iminsi mike gusa. Kubaza umuntu wishe umugore we, hejuru yimbaraga zanjye. Nari inkweto nkeya kuva icyo bita ubuzima nyabwo. Ariko niba uri umunyamwuga, ugomba gukora munsi yigitutu, urwego urwo arirwo rwose. Ndi umuntu mwiza ukora ahantu heza iyo bantera inkunga, shima. Oya rero, ntabwo ndi umunyamakuru, ndi umunyamakuru wa TV.
- Ariko televiziyo ni ibidukikije bikomeye cyane, kandi amarushanwa arakomeye.
- Birashoboka yego, ariko iyi niyo nzira yo kundwanya. Nibyiza kuri njye kuruta ikindi kintu. Nkunda televiziyo yu Burusiya cyane, dufite byinshi kandi byibasiwe. By'umwihariko, ku mushinga "Uyu munsi. Umunsi uratangira. "Dufite umwuka mwiza cyane. Twatangiye inshuti no munsi yigihe cya televiziyo nshya cyaje i Rodion Gazmanov mu gihugu kugirango ikarengere. Hariho abantu benshi badasanzwe kuri tereviziyo ninde ushimishije kuvugana, hafi ya buri wese afite ibyo akunda. Birumvikana ko amarushanwa ahari, ariko ni ukuri, ndatekereza. Ntibishoboka gufata umwanya umwe imyaka icumi. Umugabo atangira gukora kuri templates iriho. Yicaye mu kirere, avugana n'umushyitsi, na we ubwe azazunguruka ibitekerezo: "Mmm, iki guteka cyo kurya uyu munsi? Ariko nimugoroba mama azaza, birashoboka ko ari byiza kujya muri cafe? " Kandi iyi "umurongo" mumaso uragaragara cyane. Bibi.
"Nari umugabo n'umunani, umugabo wanjye uzaza afite imyaka itanu. Yari umuseruzi wa politiki yacu, kandi nandikiye ijambo." Imyambarire, icyegeranyo cya Vladi
Ifoto: Victor Gorryachev
- Ufite imyaka mike ishize twayoboye gahunda kwisi yose. Bati, gusa ibihugu byambere mirongo itatu byambere bigaragara ko ari bishya, hanyuma imyumvire iragoye.
- Nzavuga byinshi: Urabona igihugu nkumwanya wo kurasa. Ntuza kuri trafsar kare, ariko "aha hantu". Urabona ko ufite ingaya esheshatu zubuzima hamwe nuwo mugabo umena icyayi, kandi hari iminota cumi n'itanu. Noneho abo mukorana barabaza bati: "Ikirere cyari ikihe?" Birasa n'imvura. Mubyukuri ntukibuke. None ibihugu mirongo itatu na bitatu ?! Bimaze hamwe na kabiri ya gatatu kureka kubona ikindi kintu kitari ibihe.
- Kandi, nkuko bimeze, ni ikihe gihugu cya mbere?
- Ntabwo nibuka ubwoko runaka bw'Uburayi. . URUGENDO ni ubucuruzi bwabato, hamwe nu butayu n'umuyaga mu mutwe bishobora kwishimira urugendo rugana mu giceri cyose: "Kandi abana bari tutarimo bahari? Warasinziriye? " Ndabizi mubyambayeho. Nyuma yo kuvuka kw'abakobwa, nagerageje gusubira mu rugendo, hari imishinga imwe n'imwe, ariko numvise ko Fed yashira. Sinshaka kuva kure iminsi icumi, sinshaka no kugenda kuri batatu, nkumbuye umuryango.
- Wabonye kandi umugabo kuri tereviziyo?
- ntabwo. Mubindi bintu, mfite ikindi gice cyibikorwa - Nigisha tekinike yo kuvuga, telemetrie, ndimo nasezeranye muri disikuru. Kandi hano hari umwe mu wa mbere mu myumvire yanjye yandika ubushakashatsi ku banyapolitiki - amatora y'umwanya w'akarere muri Krasnogorsk. Twagize bato cyane, ariko ikipe yo guhanga, kandi umukandida yari muto bihagije - ubu ni mirongo ine gusa na mirongo ine gusa. Hanyuma, cumi n'umunani, umugabo wanjye uzaza afite imyaka itanu. Yari umuseruzi wa politiki yacu, kandi nanditse ijambo. Kandi nubwo umukandida wacu utatsinze, tubikesha iki gikorwa cyatowe twahuye.
- Tubwire uko tubaho imyaka cumi n'irindwi hamwe numuntu umwe? Gake mu buryo butaziguye muri iki gihe.
- Mubyukuri, ntakintu kidutangaje kuri Sasha muribi. Ahari, ibi bikurura ibidukikije, ariko mubidukikije bibiri bibiri harimo bike. Kurugero, mugenzi wanjye, TV yakiriye Ira Sasha, abana bane, bose kuva umugabo umwe, bahurira imyaka myinshi. Kuri njye rero nikintu kitari kure yuruhererekane rwo gusohoka.
Ati: "Nyuma yo kuvuka kw'abakobwa, nagerageje gusubira gutembera, ariko numvise ko nagaburiwe. Sinshaka kugenda, nkumbuye umuryango." Imyambarire, lipinskaya
Ifoto: Victor Gorryachev
- Birahuye cyane cyane cyangwa ni ugukora mubucuti?
- Imyitwarire isanzwe kubibazo, bihagije. Ntabwo ntekereza ko hagomba kubaho uburyo budasanzwe bwamahirwe bwo guhura ijana ku ijana. Ariko abantu bashyira mu gaciro barashobora guhora bagera ku cyemezo gifatika, basanga ubwumvikane, bategure neza. Hariho abantu barengerwa cyane umwanya wabo, ariko simbifata.
- Ubwa mbere wari mu muhanda, hafi ntiyabonanye, birashoboka.
- Yego, ni ibanga! (Aseka.) Inshingano yo kubura. Ngwino - kandi na none kumva neza. Uyu ni umuntu umwe? Kandi bisa nkibishya. (Aseka.)
- Bana batatu - Byari inzira y'amayeri yo kugukomeza murugo?
- Iki nigikorwa cyacu gitekereza kandi giteganijwe rwose. Dufite abana - ikirere, nta mpanuka nk'izo. (Aseka.) Kandi numvise ko numwana nkeneye kwicara byibuze imyaka ibiri. Ntabwo dufata cyane cyane. Niba kandi uhisemo kumwana wa kabiri-wa gatatu, biragaragara ko ingendo zidamurika mumyaka itanu kugeza itanu iri imbere.
- Birashoboka ko ufite amahirwe n'umukobwa wa mbere, ntabwo yatanze ibibazo, ni iki wahisemo kuba umubyeyi munini?
- Byagize amahirwe ko nta kibazo kidasanzwe cyubuzima cyari kibaho. Ariko sinshobora kuvuga ko nastya afite imico y'abamarayika. Ahubwo yinangiye kandi azashimangira wenyine kugeza igihe abishaka bazageraho. Iya kabiri, Alena, mbere yari ikibazo gito rwose, none ihinduka isorigan. Icya gatatu, Ana, amenyera abantu bose, ariko umukobwa woroheje cyane arakura. Ibyo byose nzabivuga: hamwe n'umwana wa mbere wumva ufite ubushake, ni izihe iterambere tutazanye na Nastya, yagiye mu gihugu cyigenga, ba sogokuru "yiyayinga". N'abana benshi, umutuzo uhinduka. Kandi ubusitani bwakarere bwahindutse kuba bwiza no kuvurwa. Ntabwo mbona itandukaniro namba.
- Noneho uwakuze yamaze gutangira ishuri. Binjiye mu butegetsi bw'ishuri?
- Abakuru bakunze, akora amasomo yose, nta kwibutsa. Kandi ni byiza, kuko ibintu bimwe sinibuka ubwanjye: kurugero, ndareba uburyo baganira ku kugabana igihano mukiganiro cyabana .... Inyongera - Niki? Hamwe na Alaina, sinzi uko na. Ibyumweru bibiri byarashize, ntakintu kibasabimwe kuri bo nyamara. Abakobwa bajya mwishuri ryindimi, naho nastya asanzwe yigisha indimi eshatu: Icyongereza, Igifaransa n'Igishinwa.
"Hamwe n'umwana wa mbere wumva ufite hyperence. Abandi bana, umutuzo utuze." Imyambarire, lipinskaya
Ifoto: Victor Gorryachev
- Abashinwa Kuki? Utekereza ko ari ngombwa ejo hazaza?
- Bafite Umwigisha Ukuza! Ururimi rufite ururimi rwose, ruyobora ingando cyimpeke kuri Hainan, kandi, cyane cyane, yitondera abana. Amasomo nayo afite gushimisha, guhanga. Kurugero, amabara bigisha ku ndirimbo muri YouTube. Urashobora kwiyumvisha icyo gutera - urashobora kwicara muri terefone muri terefone!
- Wabuza abana murugo mugukoresha ibikoresho?
- Smartphone na mudasobwa baracyakuze gusa. Nastya afite uburyo bwemewe bwo kumarana umwanya kuri enterineti - hariho portal. Dufite akamaro kanini. Birashoboka, uyu mwaka ugomba kugura mudasobwa isanzwe - birakenewe kwiga. Ariko muri terefone na tablet, bahora baticaye. Ku wa gatandatu no ku cyumweru, urashobora kubona amakarito, rimwe na rimwe mugitondo niba ufite umwanya. Babyuka kare, bafite amasaha atandatu kumaguru.
- Inyoni zo hambere, nka nyina. Ariko ntabwo ufite TV, ntubona igitekerezo cyawe?
- Kubera iki? Hariho uburyo bwiza bwumuyoboro wambere. Ni ngombwa kandi gukurikirana ibyo abo dukorana.
- Icyamamare cyawe kigira ingaruka mubuzima bwumuryango?
- Kuri njye mbona ubu abantu benshi bashimishije ndetse numuyoboro mwinshi wa TV, amavuta. Birumvikana ko umuyoboro wa mbere uhora ari uwambere, kandi igihe natangiraga gukorerayo, nize kumenyekana. Ariko sinambabaje na gato. Kurugero, mugihe cyizuba twagiye inshuti muri Anapa, bafite urunigi rwa hoteri. Kandi nanditse mu giti cyacu muri Instagram: "Mbega ukuntu twishimiye ko turuhuka hamwe, twakubonye ngo dusangire!" Ariko hanze, abo bantu ntibagaragaje ko bashishikajwe n'ubu buryo ubwo aribwo bwose, ntibaje aho ndi - bagaragaje uburyohe ku buzima bwihariye. Natangaye cyane.
- Rodion yawe yakiriye Gazmanov yibutse inama yawe yambere: Wamwegereye gupima iterambere ...
- Yego (aseka), tekereza, ndetse na No ntabwo yakemuye uyu mwanya mu kwibuka kugeza sinigeze kukwibutsa. Mfite ibitero nkibi. Nubwo muriki gihe, intego ntabwo yumvikana neza: Nanjye ndimo gukura muke ubwabwo, nkwiye kugenda iki?
- Ni ikihe kintu cy'ingenzi kuri wewe muganira? Ninde wakoranye?
- Ntabwo nashoboraga gukorana nabakurikirana ibintu byose munsi yanjye. Ni ngombwa kumva ko umuntu atazaguterera mu kirere, azafata ibiryo byawe kandi ayishoboye ampa pasiporo. Hariho ibintu byangiza cyane, byasimbuwe byumwihariko, bisa nkaho uzasohoka. Cyangwa ntibasogikiwe kuri wewe gusa, ahubwo barimo no ku mushyitsi, mubyukuri, ibintu byose byari bihagaze. Biragoye cyane. Ariko indobyi ntabwo ari muri zo. Kandi nkunda ko itanga ibitekerezo bishimishije, imikino yose ijya mukirere, yahimbye. Ivugurura ether, kandi abashyitsi bumva ko dushobora kuruhuka natwe. Dufite gahunda nziza.
"Sasha arashaka kwakira uruhushya rwa capitaine. Twembi dukunda kumarana umwanya mumazi tugatangira kumenya ubwato"
Ifoto: Victor Gorryachev
- Biratangaje kubona ugifite numero yumuziki uhuriweho na Riona. Warangije amashuri yumuziki.
- Mfite inyigisho zumuziki, ariko ntabwo ndi umucuranzi. Kandi iruhande rwa Pro, nka Rodion, Ndetse nanone nerekana nabi ubushobozi bwanjye muriki gice. Nubwo, birashoboka, byaba byiza. Kubera ubwoba, ariko ndashaka cyane. (Umwenyura.) Birashoboka, nyuma ya byose, ikintu kizazamuka gifite ikintu. Umwaka ushize, inshuti yanjye n'inshuti yanjye bakoze amajwi, kandi baracyize gukina baulele, ntabwo bigoye cyane. Ajya kubyina.
- Sasha niko byoroshye kuzamuka, nkawe?
- Oya, ni kinini kandi hejuru, biragoye kubyutsa. (Aseka.) Mubyukuri, bigomba gukomeza buhoro buhoro. Ari byuzuye cyane, ariko ni byiza. Ndanebwe cyane ko nibisanzwe kuri portal, sinshobora kwiyandikisha. Nzi ko umugabo wanjye azabikora neza. (Umwenyura.) Ariko ubu, harashobora kuvugwa, ibyabaye kuri Epochal byabaye mubuzima bwacu - sasha ashaka kwakira uruhushya rwa capitaine. Twembi twishimiye kumara umwanya kumazi tugatangira kumenya ubwato. Tugiye kwirukana ubwato bunini. Twari tumaze kugenda muri Brig mu kinyejana cya Brig, hazaho ikipe neza, haza abana, umuhererezi utandatu. Kera cyane! Ndetse twatangiye gutekereza kubikora nka kare. Abantu ntibafite ibintu bifatika bifite ibisobanuro. By the way, nabonye ko inyanja ifunguye ikora cyane kubantu, ndetse no ku bato. Ngwino ku mugenzi wacu muto Gleb, watekereje areba umuraba: "Gleb, utekereza iki?" "Kubyerekeye ubuzima". Ntekereza ko atari ibitekerezo, ariko ibyo byumvikane, uburambe buzaguma mu kwibuka. By the way, mfite inshuti - guhangayikishwa cyane n'abagize ingaruka ku ngaruka Alexander Eliseev. Kandi abwiriza ubuzima bwuzuye amarangamutima. Kandi he, ute mungendo, dufungura ingendo nshya?
- Nibyiza, amaherezo, inama eshanu kugirango umunsi uzagenda neza.
- Turabyuka duhita tuba mu kabari. Mpagaze iminota ine kugeza kuri itandatu. Noneho urashobora gukora igitaramo kugirango umurambo uzingure. Nyuma yibyo, nywa ikawa, mbikanda muri Turukiya. Ntukunde ikawa, urashobora kugira icyayi - ni ngombwa gukora imihango runaka. Gahunda yumurongo kumunsi, amajwi yandika muri Notepad kandi yishimire ibimaze gukorwa. Nahumekewe ko ibintu byose bigenzurwa. Nkunda kandi kuzamuka hamwe na trifle zimwe mumyumvire: lipstick itukura, yambara impeta nziza - yambaye imyenda myiza - yambaye ijambo ryiza - mu ijambo rimwe, kuko umugore ari ngombwa!