"U-Efim Zalmanovich, ngasikhathi sinye izilaleli zilahlekelwa amakhalesti kanye nomlandisi wezezilo zika-Efim Schifrin, kodwa wathenga umlingisi. Uyajabula yini ukuthi kunezinguquko ezinjalo?
- Hhayi-ke, lawa ngamagama azwakalayo ... (ahleke.) Ngine-jule kakhulu emkhakheni womsebenzi. Abalimi bazoqonda. Ngoba lapho inhlabathi inciphile futhi umhlaba ukhishwa, udinga njalo ukuthatha i-skarb yakho bese udlulela kwenye indawo. Kwabonakala kimi ukuthi lapha kulokhu, okwabiwe kimi isiza somhlaba, ePop yami, ngesithekiso, izilimo, ukuqhubeka nalesi silinganiselo, saba nqabile ngokwengeziwe. Futhi mina, ngaphandle kokuphonsa lo mhlaba, ngaphandle kokuthola ukunakwa kwakhe, ngisanda kuqamba amanye amasayithi ambalwa. Enye yazo kwakubizwa ngesinye isikhathi esibizwa ngesekisi, omunye umnyango olandelayo - i-movie, isiza sesithathu sibizwa ngokuthi ithelevishini, kanti okwesine - intando yami yimidlalo yaseshashalazini. Manje kwanezelwa enye enye endizeni, ebizwa ngokuthi yi-Musical Theatre. Ngala maphutha ukuze uphile okuningi okujabulisayo. Ngabo, yiqiniso, kunzima ukuphatha, kepha ngaya kulowo msebenzi ukwedlula lapho edwetshwe ngamathoni asensathitho noma lapho ephumelela okokuqala.
- Mangaki owenziwayo umatasa manje?
- Lesi yisikhumbuzo somculo esithi "E-Musicla Theatre, kubuye kube nesifuvulelo somculo esithi" Ukuphila Kuhle ", ukusebenza kwe-Viketyuk Theatre ... DLULA" ... lokhu kusebenza kokugcina kaMikhal Mikhalych Kazakov, akwazile ukubeka eRussia. Kusekhona uhlelo lwami lwe-pop-up olubizwa nge- "Seifrynisms-New". Ngeshwa, abadlali abathathu abayintandokazi basanda kwenziwa: "Schwartsevsky" "Dragon" eMorsoyeva ukukhiqizwa kwe-Mirsoyeva, "ku-IvNana" eWakhTangov, wabizwa ngokuthi "abathengisi benjoloba". Manje sengisedubula ngokudubula mayelana nokudutshulwa ochungechungeni olukhulu, kodwa angikwazi ukunquma ngakho. Ngokuvamile, nge-octa yami ngiyaphatha imibukiso ye-TV, futhi ngivumelene ngawo kuphela lapho ngisekhona "inkanyezi emenyiwe" ngochungechunge olulodwa - inkanyezi yezivakashi.
U-Efim Sishrin wazalwa edolobhana laseSusuman esifundeni saseMagadan. Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu komculi.
- Lapha, ngonyaka owedlule bekunguchungechunge oluthi "sklifosovsky" ngokubamba kwakho iqhaza.
- Futhi ngaphambi kwalapho - "izindlela", futhi ngisho nangaphambi - iqhawe lesizwe sethu ". Kepha, ezipholile ngokwayo, ngiphawula ngokweqiniso ukuthi ikhwalithi yemibukiso ye-TV iyakhula. Kunoma ikuphi, uhlangothi lwezobuchwepheshe lwazo. Futhi akusazukusindisa kangako kulokhu okulondoloziwe okuphakade: Kunezimali, kunezimpawu ezinkulu ze-cinema ... kodwa noma kunjalo, uchungechunge lwethu luyaqhubeka nesikhathi esifushane okufanele sisebenzele.
- Njenge-Guest-STAR, manje usumenywa kakhulu kwijaji lemibukiso ye-TV ehlukahlukene. Uyintofo kangakanani indima yejaji elinjalo lapho kufanele uhlole kaningi kozakwenu?
- Mina ngokwami ngizichaza ngeqiniso lokuthi ngandlela thile izahlulelo ze-polar zozakwethu. Umuntu onjalo kufanele abe sejaji. Angisoze ngakwazi ukuxazulula umuntu ukuze ahlaze noma athuke. Ngoba ukuba ngumlingisi, ngiyaqonda ukuthi kunzima kangakanani ukuhlanganyela kumaphrojekthi anjalo. Futhi mina, ngokungathi kunjalo, kusukela ngaphakathi, uhlala ushaya labo abazimisele ukulungiswa, noma ukuhlala. Mhlawumbe lezi zimemo zixhumeke neqiniso lokuthi angikaze ngithole, ngimemezela isinqumo sami. Kubukeka kimi sengathi kuhlale kumnandi kumaphrojekthi wethelevishini. Kuseyithelevishini, hhayi isivivinyo noma ukuhlolwa. Futhi izakhi zombukiso kumele zibe khona - ngisho nasekumemezelweni komphumela ...
- "I-Star Hour yakho" bekuyi-Circus edumile ye-TV "Circus enezinkanyezi", lapho ukhombisa khona abakwaziyo. Ngabe unawo amakhono atholwe kuphrojekthi?
"Ukube bengisikisele ukuphinda okuthile, bengizobuza isonto nje ukufaka ifomu futhi, mhlawumbe, liphindaphindwe cishe yonke into ekhombisa ngo-2007. Yize sekudlule iminyaka eyisikhombisa. Kwenza into eyodwa ukuthi ngiyikholelwe kuyo: Lapho kugujwa ngesikhumbuzo sikaNikulin, ngeqiniso ngacabanga ukuthi ngeke ngiphinde ngithole ukumamatheka nge-manege ... kodwa noma ngabe kubuyela ezintweni zokuzilolonga, noma ngabe kubusuku Esekelweni ngombala, ngangiqinisekisa. Futhi ngiphindaphinde igumbi lomoya. Njengoba kusohlaya: "Uyazi ukuthi udlala kanjani i-violin? "Angazi, angizange ngizame." Nginomuzwa wokuthi ngabe ngikwazi ukuphatha.
Manje i-efim Shifrin imatasa ngokushesha emikhiqizweni eminingana yaseshashalazini. Photo: genady avramenko.
- Ngomsebenzi wayo omkhulu, futhi ungumsebenzisi osebenzayo wokuxhumana nomphakathi. Nsuku zonke, izingcaphuno ezintsha ezivela ezincwadini ezihehayo futhi zisebenza ekhasini lakho. Usitholaphi isikhathi somsebenzi onjalo?
- Ngivame ukubuzwa ngakho, futhi ngentshiseko yabafundi bami kuhlale kuhlala kungathembani okuncane: bayazi nokuthi nginokusebenza kusihlwa, futhi ekuseni ngifika kuphela kulo muzi. Ngasikhathi sinye, nami ngiqeqesha ejimini. Omunye ngokushesha uphakamisa umbono wokuthi "abamnyama bamatekisi", noma lowo othile uyangisiza. Kepha kulula kakhulu ukuphendula lo mbuzo - ngiso sonke isikhathi esendleleni. Ebusuku - esitimeleni, phakathi nosuku - endizeni, futhi ukuba eMoscow - ngihamba ngemoto yenkonzo, angizikhiphi. Futhi ukubanda, angikaze ngichithe isikhathi ngibheka amabala ophahleni, angihlukani ne-iPad futhi, nginguLark, ngisethathe umkhuba wezikhova. Ngilala kancane, sekwanele. Ngokuvamile, angikaze ngicabange ukuthi ngingakuthanda ukufunda kulo mqaphi, kwabonakala kimi ukuthi kwakungqubuzana kimi. Kepha manje iFomethi ye-elekthronikhi yangibuyisela ekufundeni okuvumayo. Ngilande inani elikhulu lezincwadi, futhi ngikwazi ngasikhathi sinye ngifunde imisebenzi eminingana ngasikhathi sinye, ngaphandle kokulayisha isikhala noma izandla zakho. Ngifunda kalula encwadini eyodwa kwenye, inzuzo yawo wonke la madivayisi anika amandla amabhukumaka alula, ukukhetha, ukukopisha umbhalo. Akudingeki ukuthi ngishayele izingcezwana ezincwadini engizinikeza ezinkundleni zokuxhumana - lokhu kwenziwa ngokucindezela inkinobho eyodwa. Ngiqale ukufunda nokubheka imifanekiso. Ngaso sonke isikhathi ngifuna ukuxoxa ngalokho engikufundile. Futhi lapho bebuza: Kungani lokhu kwakwenza kungazelelwe lokhu kube nentshisekelo emlandweni we-highlander noma imfundiso yokuziphendukela kwemvelo - wenzani lesi simo somsebenzi wakho? Ngithi: "Ngakho-ke ngoba kuyathakazelisa ukuthi ayihlobene nomsebenzi. Kubukeka kimi sengathi kukhona amabala athile emfundweni yami ukuthi impilo yenza kube nokwenzeka ukuyilungisa. " Futhi iqiniso elisha elithi Virtual linikeza ithuba lokufunda nokufunda. Futhi kubonakala kimi ukuthi ngiphothule kwelinye isikole samabanga aphezulu, noma ngisho nesikhungo, ngoba ngingumsebenzisi osebenzayo wokuxhumana nomphakathi.
- Ngaso leso sikhathi, lapho ubhala okuthunyelwe kwakho ngokwakho, ubonakele ngolimi lwaseRussia olungenakuqhathaniswa ...
"Ngibhala kudala, futhi ngathola nezincwadi ezintathu, futhi ngifuna ukuthi ifundeke kalula." Kepha-ke ngeke kube khona noma kunjalo. Ngiyakuqonda lokho kusukela ibinzana, ngivame ukungazi ukuthi ngingakuqeda kuphi, futhi ngiyaqonda, iyiphutha lami elibhaliwe nobuthakathaka bami. Angizabalaza nezinqwaba zeziphakamiso zami. Kepha kubonakala kimi ukuthi okuthile mayelana nolwazi engikwazile ukwanelisa, aluhambelani nemishwana emifushane elula ye-SMS yocingo. Kepha lapha ngivame ukukhubeka futhi ngihlushwa iqiniso lokuthi iLucavinka noma i-Indony, efihlwe, umfundi wami ngaphandle kwezithonjana akaqageli, futhi kungazelelwe kuqala ukucabanga ukuthi ngingumuntu obona umuntu Kulesi sikhathi kusuka ngekhulu leminyaka elidlule, noma eliqiniswe kuzo zonke izinkinobho ze-Dandy. Kepha bekuhlale kubonakale kimi kusobala kakhulu: ukuze kucavocate ngamabomu kwamagama kufihla nokuhlekisa ngaye ...
Efim Shifrin. Photo: genady avramenko.
- Kwabasebenzisi bezomphakathi wenethiwekhi, uzoba uSchifrin. Ngubani okubiza leli gama empilweni?
- Ngaso sonke isikhathi ebizwa ngokuthi ubaba ngezinhlamvu - noNonka, noNonimka ngokugcizelelwa kokuvumelanisa kokuqala kanye ne-fuck. Ngijwayele kakhulu amagama ami amabili futhi angizange ngicabange nokuthi ngokubhalisa ngaphansi kwegama lami lamaphasiphothi ekuxhumaneni nomphakathi, sizoba nesiphambano esinjalo emphakathini. Yize kuchazwa impela: Uma izilaleli zingijwayele ukuthi zingenza kanjani i-efima, kungenzeka ukuthi zicabange ukuthi zizonquma ngokushesha ukuthi ngingakwazi noma ngishintshile igama lami, noma okuthile kwashiswa kubantu. Kwakudingeka ngandlela thile ukumemezela ngokusemthethweni ukuthi ngaso sonke isikhathi ngangiphila futhi ngangingaphansi kwegama, nangaphansi kwalo. Ngemuva kwakho konke, kungavamile u-Ana uqhamuka neqiniso lokuthi kungenxa yeNura yomuntu. Ngazi abaningi uSasha, abangathandi lapho bebizwa ngokuthi yiShurids. Kepha ngijwayele ebuntwaneni ukuthi mina noFima, ne-EFIM, ne-fuck ngasikhathi sinye. Futhi ebuntwaneni ngokusobala ngizwe isibonakaliso sokulingana phakathi kwawo wonke amagama. Futhi esiteji, Yebo: Lapho usutshelwe leli gama ebhodini lebhilidi, noma kumakhredithi, futhi kwahamba. Futhi awukaze uqaphele ukuthi ukundiza iminyaka engama-30 kwabadala, lapho wawunjalo ngaso sonke isikhathi nge-EFIM. Kepha kwabonakala kimi ukuthi endaweni ethile kufanele ngibe ngaphansi kwegama engibhalise abazali bami. Ngiletha isibonelo: nonna viktorovna Modyyakova kumadokhumenti kwakunguNovemba. Kepha akekho noyedwa ongakaze wambiza ngoNovemba - uNovena noNonena. Futhi mina - fuck, futhi saba fucking, futhi kukhona i-fuck. Ngubani obiza? Manje abaningi manje.
- Ngale ndlela, abazali ababizelwe kanjalo, isikhathi eside befuna ukubona indodana yabo yentatheli. Futhi manje uyabhala. Kungani bakubone kulo msebenzi?
- Cishe, e-biography yami, abazali bami babenomuzwa wokuthi umsebenzi walo mculi wasuka esigabeni esingathi sína, labo abanikela inhlabathi ngaphansi kwezinyawo zabo. Kwakufanele basinde. Uyise ekamu, nomama, oweza kuye emva kwempi. Ngendlela, abakwazanga ukukhetha kwami. Ayikho into enjalo ababesukume, bathi: "Akukaze." Kamuva nje ngaphambi kwempumelelo yami nowokuqala ukubukeka kwami emoyeni, futhi vele enezivakashi zami zokuqala eRiga, babehlala bengabaza ngokungazinaki ukukhetha kwami, yize bebazi ubuntwana ebengingafuni lutho ngaphandle kwalokhu.
- Ushiye abazali ekuseni, ngeminyaka eyi-19. Kwakunzima ukuqala impilo ezimele eMoscow?
- Hhayi-ke, lokhu akuzona izikhathi lapho i-gorky eya kubantu. Ngize eMoscow eminyakeni yaseSoviet, lapho kungakhathalekile ukuthi ukhulume kanjani ngesikhathi, kwakunzima ukunyamalala. Noma kunjalo, ujwayelene naye ofaka isicelo eklebhula ngokushesha eMoscow, izihlobo ezagcwala emagatsheni ezincwadi zohlu lozalo zesihlahla somkhaya, owathola isikhathi esithile, wawuthola umuzwa wohlobo oluthile lokuvikelwa. Angisisikho lokho abaphonswa ezweni elingaziwa ukuzodla abomdabu, ngangizungezwe abakwethu, kepha noma yini esiyipendiyo ayizange siyipende lesikhathi saseSoviet, kodwa uma umuntu engazange aphikise umbuso, akazange akhethe indlela womzabalazo ngasikhathi sinye - indlela akwazi ngayo ukuqagela ngayo? Angikhumbuli izindawo ezinjalo ukuze zidangala ukuze abantu bahambisane ngokuphelele nabantu uma ungabhalwanga ngokushesha kubaphikisi. Ngaphezu kwalokho, ngazalelwa enkathini ethambile, lapho ngokumelana nesisekelo sesihluku sesigcawu sesiteji, konke kwabonakala kuyi-sanatorium. Manje sikhumbula isiphetho seBrodsky. Kepha-ke izindawo ke zinzima ukubiza i-cortica. Kuyihlazo nje ukuthi imbongi enhle ngakho-ke ngaqala impilo yami ezinkondlweni ekuhloleni indawo.
"Ngiyaqhubeka nokulwa nengcindezi noma ngicindezelekile ngengilazi noma ngiwe ngokuphila, futhi ngiza kuphela ihora ngosuku ejimini." Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kwe-Efim Shifrin.
- Ekuhlalweni kokuzalwa kukaSusuman esifundeni saseMagadan?
- Akusekho, kepha ngokuvamile kwakukhona kabili lapho. Ngitshela okuningi ngakho, ngoba ngangiqiniseka - kusho ukuthi akunakwenzeka ukujoyina umfula ofanayo kabili, hhayi kahle. Ngijoyine umfula lapho kungekho lutho oluhambile ukuze lubuyise emuva. Okungazange kushintshe okwamanje. Amadolobhana amaningi aseKolyma adilizwa, ingxenye yabo yashiswa. Kepha ngemuva kweminyaka engama-25 kamuva, ngangiphinde ngangena emzaneni, engisibonile kaningi ephusheni, futhi ngavuka, ngamangala, ukuthi amanzi aphenduke ngawo ...
- Yisiphi isigaba amakilasi akho owakha umzimba manje?
- Angisakubizi ngezemidlalo noma be-boding, yize amakilasi anemithwalo enemithwalo eholela ekushintsheni kwesibalo futhi kungaba khona impela ukubiza leli zwi phesheya. Kepha angikafaki imigomo yami ukudweba eminye imincintiswano noma ngiye kuma-veteran ekilasi lalo mdlalo. Ama-Workout ami namanje awenzi ngaphezu kwama-amateur, kodwa ngithanda ukuzwa imiphumela yalezi zifundo. Ngithanda ukuthi ngenza eminyakeni yami ukuyenza ngemithwalo eninginika yona, ngingagqoka izingubo ezifanayo ezifaka ezenzweni eminyakeni emihlanu edlule. Engikuqhubeka nokulwa nengcindezi noma ngokudangala, hhayi ngosizo lwengilazi noma ukuwela empilweni, kepha kuza kuphela ihora ngosuku ejimini.
- Isisindo esingakanani?
- Sekuyisikhathi eside ngizama ukungazami ukuthola ukuthi luhlobo luni lwesisindo esiphakeme, futhi yini osebenza kuyo. Ngokuvamile, angiyi kumarekhodi. Kepha izolo ngizale imitha endaweni yokuqala izikhathi eziyishumi. Kuliqiniso, endleleni yesibili nganginele ukuphindaphinda okuyisithupha.
- Ingabe uphila nokubheka okunjalo kwefilosofi empilweni, lapho udweba khona ukuhlakanipha okubalulekile?
- Mayelana nokuhlakanipha - bekuwukuqhekeka, angizizwa ngihlakaniphe. Isipiliyoni sempilo nje singihlole ngolwazi oluthile. Ngiyaqonda ukuthi kule mpilo ungabheka kuphela lokho okwenzile. Futhi angihlukile kakhulu kulabo ababhekwa ngabantu abanenhlanhla. Ngiyazi ukuthi inhlanhla yaphendukela kimi kuphela lapho ngisebenza kakhulu ngaphambi kwalokho. Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi lokhu kuyifilosofi yami elula yansuku zonke.