Kwabonakala kimi ukuthi amaqhawe anjalo anjalo, anjenge-vasily, abafana abadina, kodwa ngangiphutha. Ngokuvamile, icala elingajwayelekile lapho kushade nalo, lihleli phambi kwakho futhi liyakha, liyakha, futhi hhayi ubuso obuhlekisayo noma ukudala okungenangqondo, kepha ukudalwa kwengqondo okuqondile, ukwakhiwa kwezinga elithile, ukwakhiwa kwezinga elithile, lapho kungenxa yalokho okuphambukayo engxoxweni. Kepha yilokhu kanye okubizwa ngokuthi umkhathi. Kuyadabukisa ukuthi lezi zinto zobuciko ngemuva kokuthi ukuxhumana kwethu kwabalindi kundize kubhasikidi futhi akunakusetshenziswa kwinhlolokhono. Kepha kwabonakala kimi: Vansi kahle, wayehlala ethola iphrofayili yomlingani ehleli egumbini elilandelayo. Yize mhlawumbe kungenxa yami kuphela.
Vasily, kusukela ohlangothini umuzwa wokuthi umkhulu wakho odumile, uZurab Konstantinovich, ungumuntu ophupha ngokuphelele impilo yakho. Ingabe kunjalo?
Ngokuvila: "Yebo, ngogogo wami empeleni ngakhula. Nguye owangikhuphula kusukela esemncane. Kwenzeka ukuthi ngangihlala kanye naye nogogo, ngoba umama wavikela idiploma, wayesematasa nomfowabo omncane, nodadewabo ... UZurab wayengeyemise ngiseyindodana, wanika okuningi. Ngihambe naye ngaso sonke isikhathi emsebenzini, izitshalo, emihlanganweni yamazwe omhlaba, lapho ngasebenza khona njengomhumushi ... Umkhulu ungishukumisela njalo ukuba ngidwebe, futhi ngaya ezifundweni zokulungiselela eTbilisi ukuyobhalisela e-Academy of Arts. Futhi kuyini isimilo, wayehlala angiphatha njengomuntu okhulile. Futhi ugogo, inkosazana eyifa, wafaka izisekelo zokuziphatha okufanele, amandla okuziphatha emphakathini, ngenhlonipho, ngenhlonipho yabadala. Ngibonga uZurab, ngazithola ngisebuthongo esikoleni se-UN, lapho bafunda khona ikakhulukazi ngabantwana babafundi bezokubizwa, abasebenzi baseNxusa. Wamane wafaka isithombe esibaziwe lapho, mina, njengenjwayelo, okuhunyushiwe - futhi anginake. ETbilisi, ngaleso sikhathi, kwakungaphumuli kakhulu. "
Umlingiswa wena nogogo ofanayo?
Vasily: "Kunzima ukusho. UZurab uzikhandla kakhulu. Ukulala kancane, ekuseni kuqala kusuka e-barbell futhi ngokushesha ngomsebenzi. Futhi njalo uhlala esimweni esihle. Ugogo wakhe ugcwalisa ngokuphelele: Uyazithanda izivakashi, ngaso sonke isikhathi uhlanganisa amatafula amangalisayo ... basiza abanye ngenjabulo. Abantu abanjalo abanomphefumlo ovulekile. Ngifunde kubo konke lokhu. Ikakhulu uthando nakaphela. Kuyamangaza sengathi umkhulu ukhohlwa okubi, wabangela. Ubeka i-negative futhi uqala nsuku zonke ngeshidi elinelanga, elihlanzekile. Ngiyaqiniseka ukuthi le yinjabulo yakhe. "
UVasily nobaba, i-revaz maharade, noMfoweth 'uZurab Tsereteli Maharadeze. Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweVasily Tsereteli.
I-Zurabe Tsereteli ibilokhu ihlala iyisimo sengqondo. Ukugxekwa okuningi ekhelini lakhe kwazwakala. Wasolwa ngokuntuleka kokunambitheka, eGinene ... Wasabela kanjani ezintweni ezinjalo?
Ngobuvili: "Ulandela indlela yakhe, naseRussia ngokwesiko awathandi abantu abaphumelelayo. Ngeshwa, baqala ukwenza umona bese befaka izinti emasondweni. Yazisa futhi wadumisa ababhali abanethalente, abadlali, abaqondisi, abaculi baqala kuphela ngokufa. I-Zurab iyisikhumbuzo esiyingqayizivele esikhulu, ngakho-ke ngokuya ngesikhala, uhlanganisa imibono yakhe. Unendalo enkulu futhi encanyana. Kanye nokupenda, ihluzo, kanye nezinye izinhlobo eziningi - kusuka ku-ceramics, kaMose ku-Komel. Ngisho ubucwebe bayatholakala. Ngenhlanhla, umdwebi ungumuntu onethuba lokusebenza ngezinto ezahlukahlukene nangendlela ehlukile. "
UZurab Konstantinovich wahlangana namakhosi anjengoSalvador Dali, uMark Chagall, Pablo Picasso ... Wakhuluma ngabo?
Ngokusobala: "Ugogo wami u-anti wahlala eFrance, kwathi ngo-1964 wammemela kumyeni wakhe eParis, evakashele. Kepha imvume yokuya eZurab kuphela. Kuyiqiniso, wangena empilweni yendawo, futhi lo mkhathi wawumthonye kakhulu. Leli phuzu lingalandelwa kahle emisebenzini yalo ngo-1968. Vele, wayesekujabulele kakhulu iPicasso. UChagall wabhala impendulo yomdlandla emsebenzini kaMbakhulu. Futhi wahlangana naye ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, eNew York, futhi wakhumbula izingxoxo zabo lapho uDali ekhala ngokuthi abagxeki bezocindezela bama bayeka ukumthuka. UZurab kuqala akazange aqonde nokuthi usho ukuthini engqondweni, ngoba esikhathini samandla aseSoviet, kunalokho, angakhuluma ngokuqashelwa. Kepha lapha washayisana neqiniso lokuthi pr, ukukhangisa noma yiluphi uhlobo olubi akukho okubi. "
Wake waba nemihlangano ebalulekile?
UVasily: "Futhi, ngenxa yomkhulu, ngihlangane noPatriarch Alexyia, uJoseph Davydovich Kobzon, no-Andrey Dmitrieving Dementieb, boris asafovich messer, clea clinton ...
Kuze kube yiminyaka eyishumi nane ungumhlali kaTbilisi. Wakhumbulani lomuzi?
Ngobuvili: "Ngokuyisisekelo, umbala we-tbilisi uyakhunjulwa, ikakhulukazi i-tbilisoba (usuku lwedolobha), oluphawulwe ngokusobala nangokucacile. Kepha bekuyintokozo ekhethekile ukuqhubeka namaholide ehlobo e-Abkhazia. ILake iRayisi, imihume ngama-stalactites kanye nama-stalagmites ... ".
Umndeni omkhulu waseGeorgia (esithombeni - ukusuka kwesobunxele uye kwesokudla): UVasily Tsereteli, uZurab Tsereteli, u-Elena Tsereteli (mama vasis), uMfoweth 'uZurab Tsereteli Maharadze. Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweVasily Tsereteli.
Amasiko endlu yomoya wokungenisa izihambi waletha iMoscow?
Vasily: "Umkhulu usenendlu evulekile lapho izivakashi zinikezwa izitsha zaseGeorgia. Asinankosikazi enjalo. Ngokuyinhloko, sivame ukudla kwenye indawo endaweni yokudlela. Ngiyivelakancane, lapho kwenzeka, ngikwazi ukumthathela i-kebab. Futhi ekhaya sinepulazi elikhulu. Noma kunjalo, zingane ezinhlanu, izinja ezintathu - ama-pugs amabili, u-bentley noBentle, kanye ne-Yorkshire Terrier Rover, izisebenzi zabasebenzi abaningi - akunasikhathi. " (Emamatheka.)
Ngakho-ke uyi-doggyman?
Ngobuvili: "Ngakhulela phakathi kwezinja ezinkulu, umalusi waseCaucasian. Saba nalo ayisishiyagalolunye, kwabe sekufika ishumi nane. "
Ngokwazi kwami, ninamadodana nendodakazi amathathu, kunjalo?
Ngokusobala: "Yebo, kepha umshana wami uhlala nathi. Ngokuqondene nezingane, zinomehluko omncane eminyaka, u-Alexander - oneminyaka eyishumi nanye, uNikolai - uFiliphu - uFilip - uFiliphu - uMbuso - iminyaka emine. "
Ingabe ungubaba onegunya?
Vasily: "Usho ukuthini? Okujwayelekile. Izingane zami, ngingumngane, akekho owesabayo, sinokwethemba ukuxhumana. Ngibheka ngentokozo enkulu, njengoba kwesinye isikhathi kusihlwa, bafaka i-punk rock badansa konke ndawonye. Kuliqiniso, angizenzi inkampani, ngincome ohlangothini. " (Emamatheka.)
Noma kunjalo, kubonakala ngathi, awuqinile. Impela ekuhambeni kuqala ungayi ukuyothenga, kepha izinto okufanele zibukele. Nginephutha?
Vasily: "Cha. Noma ngisendaweni ethile ohambweni olufushane, nakanjani ngizoya emnyuziyamu. Noma ngiya eMakethe ye-Flea, lapho singathengi khona kaningi, kepha ngithatha isithombe, ngizama ukugcina i-aura yale ndawo. "
Futhi ukuqonda kwakho kusho ukuthini ukukhuliswa kwemizwa, ukunambitha?
UVisilya: "Izingane kufanele zibone konke, zithola amakhono, njengolwazi lwezilimi ezine - iSpanishi, isiNgisi, isiFulentshi, isiRussia, njengoba nakithi, bese zibavumela ukuba bazenzele indlela."
Linda, kuthiwani ngolimi lwesiGeorgia?
Vasily: "Ekhaya sikhuluma ikakhulu ngesiNgisi, kaningi ngesiRussia. Yilapho abafana bekhula, bazogibela eGeorgia, khona-ke i-Georgia izofunda. "
NgoNikita Mikhalkov kanye nomqondisi wesikhungo samasiko ase-Italy eMoscow, e-Olga Strada. Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweVasily Tsereteli.
Ngabe ekuqaleni wabona ngobaba omkhulu?
Ngokusobala: "Ngokuvamile, ngangifuna izingane ezimbili ngokomzimba, kodwa kwaphuma ngaphezulu, futhi ngijabule. (Emamatheka.) Izingane zinhle. Ngiyazisola kuphela ukuthi asikho isikhathi esanele sokuxhumana nabo. Ngifaka ukuthi abanandaba nezemidlalo - lokhu ukufaneleka komkami, esikhathini esidlule esithi Terment Storys Testobs. Abafana banothando ngomdanso wanamuhla, karate, ibhola. Ngokwemvelo, nabo bayathanda ukudweba. U-Alexandra, ake sithi, sidonsela emafomu athile wokwakha, uNikolai uhlukaniswa ngokusobala yindawo yokugcina impahla yezibalo. Kepha ngicabanga, ngokuzayo konke kuzoba yindaba yentuthuko. Izingane ngokwazo kufanele zikhethe umsebenzi wazo, angifuni ukuziqondisa ngokwezifiso ngendlela ethile. Ngokwami, nginqume ukuba ngumculi kuphela ekilasini lokuthweswa iziqu. Ngaphambi kwalapho ngidonsele injabulo yami. Ngaphezu kwalokho, waqhubeka noKarate, enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini, no-Azart wezithombe, wakhombisa izithombe ... endaweni yokudala, wakhula, nezwi elilodwa akulula. "
Ufunde eMelika e-University University School of Parson School, bese uthweswa iziqu esikoleni sobuciko obubonayo. Izingane zizotusa amanyuvesi aphesheya?
Vasily: "Ngokuzikhethela kakhulu. Sinemfundo enhle. Amadodana aya esikoleni saseMoscow, futhi kuzokwenzekani ngokulandelayo - niyabo. Vele biography wami kwenzeka ukuthi ngifunde phesheya. Kuwo womabili amanyuvesi ami bekukhona izinhlelo ezithokozisayo, kepha okokuqala angizange ngithole iziqu, ngoba ngishintshele lapho kwathunyelwa khona ukuthi yini engangikudingayo. Ngafumbathiswa lapho indlela eqinile, amandla okuzama konke futhi ukhethe ukuthi yini eduze. Ngayiqonda itshe, izinkuni, ukuphrinta, ama-etchings, ukuqoshwa, ukukhangisa kwezithombe, ama-organics wefilimu, umlando wobuciko, izincwadi ze-French, ukuphathwa kweMnyuziyamu. Iphalethi lonke lalibekwe phambi kwami, nanoma ngubani angasebenzisa imibono. Ngijabulele futhi iminyuziyamu, imibukiso, igalari futhi ngabhala imibiko ebekiwe, okunjalo okubukwayo okubukwayo masonto onke. Umdwebi kufanele athuthukise ukubukeka kwawo kokuziphatha. Bengiphakathi kwalabo bafundi abazama ukuthola inani elikhulu lamaphoyinti okwenza kube lula ukuthola idiploma futhi baqede ngezidumi. EMoscow, ngiqonde emnyuziyamu, ngake ngaqonda ukuthi kunengqondo ukuqhubeka nokufunda, futhi waya ukuthola iziqu ze-Emba eMoscow School of Management eSyolkov. U-Emba kubalulekile ukuthola kulelo lizwe lapho uzophila futhi usebenze khona. "
Kuliqiniso yini ukuthi ukhetha abaqondisi befilimu yezobuciko nabaseMpumalanga?
Vasily: "Cha, anginandaba nokubona imikhiqizo ethokozisayo yezindaba zeHollywood naseYurophu. Kepha-ke, ngiwuthande ngempela ukupenda okuzwakalayo kwabaqondisi basekhaya, njenge "Leviafan" Andrei Zvyagintseva noma "ezine" i-Ilzhanovsky. "
Ngomqondisi, umqondisi we-Multimedia Art Museum Olga Svilova. Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweVasily Tsereteli.
Unkosikazi wakhe, iSpaniard Kiru Sakarelo, wahlangana ngeminyaka eyishumi nesikhombisa, wahlanganyela esiNgisini nomfowethu omncane. Kuyavela, ushade nothando lwakho lokuqala?
Vasily: "Mhlawumbe yebo. (Emamatheka.) Sesishade kusukela ngo-2001, kanyekanye iminyaka engamashumi amabili. Uhambe ethempelini elakhiwe umkhulu ePokLonnaya Mount ... uyazi, ubuzwe abunikeli nhlobo. Empilweni, ngemuva kwakho konke, vele ukhethe umuntu ofuna ukuba ndawonye, futhi ungabheki imininingwane. I-Kira iyi-flash ekhanyayo enjalo! Wayenomama omangalisayo, ongumNgisi nothisha wesiNgisi, nobaba yi-Spaniard, ukaputeni wezati. Kuyacaca ukuthi emndenini wami ekuqaleni kwahlabeka umxhwele ... ukhuluma izilimi eziyisithupha, amadiploma anokuningi kunami, angasho amandla. Uthole iziqu ze-Economics of Madrid University, wabe esefunda eyunivesithi eNew York, wabe esethola iziqu e-Design School, lapho, eMelika, wayengumqambi wemfashini ophumelelayo, wayenezingubo ezimbili ezitolo ezinkulu Izikhungo, zibambe iqhaza emavikini amasonto, ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, njengami, ziye ngafunda eSyolkovo ... enye into ukuthi ngokuqala kwengane yesibili neyesithathu eKira ngesicelo sakhe esigxile emndenini. Manje, okokuqala, ungumama nomkayo, kodwa futhi, vele, mngani wami nomsizi wami, inhloko yoMnyango Wezentuthuko Womnyuziyamu wethu. Isipiliyoni sakhe, ulwazi, amandla alusizi kakhulu lapha. Umlingani uyangisekela ezindabeni zezokuphatha futhi engishukumisela ebuhlotsheni, ubani, u-Alas, okufanele akwazi ukuthatha isikhathi esincane. "
Iminyaka engamashumi amabili undawonye, le ndaba yonke. Uyayazi iresiphi ephumelelayo ye-Long Union?
Ngokusobala: "Thandana, inhlonipho, qonda, khuluma, zonke izinkinga zixazulula ndawonye. Ngeke ngithi noma yini emangazayo. Lawo mabili angafuni ukunqoba ubunzima obungenakugwemeka ndawonye.
WawunguKhomishani we-Russian Pavilion eVenetian Biennale, waqala lo msebenzi lapho isikhungo sobuciko esivela khona, saqhamuka nemibukiso yevidiyo ebonakalayo, hlela imibukiso yevidiyo, buyekeza ukukhishwa emnyuziyamu wabo ... Yini manje I-ajenda?
Vasily: "Kuzo zonke izindlela zami, angihlukani nekhamera, ngaqasha, ngifaka konke ku-hard disk, futhi zonke izithombe zilinde ihora lakho. Asikho isikhathi sokucabanga nokuhlela. Ukudweba, ngathola amaphuzu, ngakwesokunxele kuphela umdwebo. Ngingakwazi ukudweba okuthile ekuzijabuliseni kwakho ... Noma kunjalo, i-brainchild yami enkulu iyimnyuziyamu engiphila kuyo. Muva nje, sivule infolsition "Museum nokubikezela", okushiwo ngomhla kashumi nanhlanu oneminyaka eyishumi nanhlanu umlando wakhe, mayelana namaqoqo. Senza imibukiso engaphezu kwamashumi ayisithupha ngonyaka. Futhi engeza izinhlelo zemfundo zezingane zabantu abadala. Futhi ngokuzayo ngiphupha okusha, okuhlome ngesakhiwo sobuchwepheshe bamuva beMnyuziyamu. "
Ngomshana kaHefi Heim Escribaino, umkhulu uZurak Tsereteli, Women Kira, izingane: uNicky, u-Alexander, umbuso noPhilip (esithombeni - ukusuka kwesobunxele kuye kwesokudla). Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweVasily Tsereteli.
Iningi lalabo abanambitheke ubuciko bendabuko, yenqabe amafomu anamuhla, babheka konke lokhu nge-acaried anents anengqondo, amafreyimu ... uyakholelwa, laba bantu abonanga ukuthuthukisa ukunambitheka eVenice izimpahla?
Vasily: "Ngokuqinisekile kudingeka ukwazi ukubona. Kepha kulokhu kufanelekile umzamo, futhi abantu bahlelwe kahle: Kunzima ngabo ukubona ukuthi kwamukeleka kwanele. Ngakho-ke, kulula ukuthi bakwazi ukuzulazula ngohlobo oluthile lwesampula yesikole bese benqaba ngokushesha okungaqondakali, okungajwayelekile kunokunaka okufanele. Thatha i-Dutch eyinkimbinkimbi isalokhu siphila. Kuyadingeka ukubabona njengegama elithi, yisayensi enhle. Kungani ku-canvas lezo noma ezinye izithelo azisho ... nezimpawu ?! Uma ungazi ukuthi hlobo luni lwabangcwele, okukhonjiswa yi-canvas, akunakwenzeka ukukuqonda. Le yindaba yemfundo. I-avant-garde iminyaka eyikhulu, "isikwele esimnyama" uMalevich waba uhlobo, futhi kunabantu abasamphika ngenkuthalo. Kuhle ukuthi ubuciko besimanje buhlukahlukene: Kuneqiniso lokugcina iqiniso kanye nokusebenzisana nalo - futhi ungasondela kulezi zinhlaka ezithokozisayo. "
Awubi, udinga ukufundisa ...
Ngokusobala: "Angithandi ukukhuluma nomphakathi. Kukhathazekile. Ngokusobala, ngiyesaba izilaleli. Mhlawumbe, angisiyena olungile georgia - angazi ukuthi ngingahlabelela kanjani, ukuzokhuluma nami. Etafuleni buthule buhlele. " (Emamatheka.)
Kepha ungumfanekiso womphakathi nelungu lokuhlonishwa lazo zonke izinhlobo zezeluleko nejaji. Ingabe uyayithanda impilo enothile enjalo?
Vasily: "Nginohlelo lokuhlanya, kepha uma unikezwa ukubamba iqhaza kulo msebenzi, lapho empeleni ngingazuza khona, ungalokothi wenqabe."
Phambilini, ngesikhathi sakho samahhala ubhukuda, babethanda imidlalo yamahhashi, ithenisi elikhulu, ukushushuluza izintaba ...
Vasily: "Bonke badidekile. (Emamatheka.) Lokhu eTbilisi ngiye e-racing, kamuva ngangena ezintabeni, ngavakashela inkantolo, futhi manje sengishiya ezemidlalo enkulu futhi ngangena kubuciko. "