-Gor Andreyevich, ake ungitshele ukuthi uSergey Mikhalkov wayenjani uSergey, wafunda kuye?
- Iminyaka eyishumi nanhlanu yokugcina yokuphila, sasisondele kakhulu kuye. Ngandlela thile babedabuke kakhulu futhi saba nobudlelwano bokuthembela, obekungeyena ubaba noma umalume, uNikita Sergeyevich. Thina kanye nomkhulu wethu babenesihloko esisodwa esijwayelekile - intombazane, futhi yena, ngizokhuluma ngokweqiniso, kwaba nokuthile okufanele ngifunde. Wayeyindoda emnandi kakhulu futhi wayethanda abesifazane nganoma yisiphi isikhathi. Wake wamukelwa okuthile, wayithanda enye intokazi, futhi waziphatha engenakunqotshwa. Wawela kuye futhi waphakamisa ukudlala umdlalo owodwa: ubuza imibuzo, futhi uyamphendula emvumelwaneni. Futhi wakhuluma nezinkondlo zakhe namahora amabili nesigamu. Emva kwalokho, abakhethiweyo banqotshwa ngenxa yabo impilo yonke.
Wayengumuntu onesizotha kakhulu, wayehlala egqolozela izingubo ezifanayo, edlula kuphela imiklomelo. Ngiyakhumbula, wayenemoto, iMercedes ene-rekhoda ye-tepi, ngakho-ke wahamba isikhathi eside ngaphambi kokuqonda ukuthi kukhona rekhoda we-tepi nomculo eMercedes.
Lokhu kusikisela ukuthi empilweni yansuku zonke wayengeyena umuntu ofunwayo, yize ayengakwazi ukukhokhela okuningi.
- Ngokusho kwakaPothosiso, uSergey Vladimirovich wasiza abaningi, bengaze babuze hlobo luni lomuntu. Vele wahamba wakhathazeka ngaye uma ecela usizo. Iqiniso?
- Ucingo lubizwa njalo ehhovisi lakhe, futhi wacelwa okuthile ngaso sonke isikhathi. Omunye usiza ukungqongqoza izindlu, othile - athole umsebenzi, othile kwadingeka avikelwe. Wasiza imbongi u-Andrei Voznesensky, lapho engenayo indawo yokuhlala, engqungqutheleni yokubhala, lapho lo magazini "wasongelwa ukwehlukana, futhi umagazini waphathwa ukuvikela.
Umkhulu wasindisa umuntu osindiswe ngumuntu, esebenzisa ilungelo lakhe nethonya lakhe. Wayengumuntu ophanayo futhi ovulekile. Noma bekukhona icala lapho umqondisi u-Alexander Stefanovich, naye wasebenzelana naye isikhashana eMosfilm, wabe esencika imali yomshado isikhashana, ngaphandle kwalokho imicimbi yayingaphansi kosongo lwe ukwephuka.
Sibe nobudlelwano bokuthembela kakhulu nogogo wethu. Ukuphela kwento angazange ayithande. Lokho lokhu wangikhuza. Futhi-ke mina uqobo ngake ngabona ugwayi kuye. Kwakusehhotela eParis. Ngamtshela: "Umkhulu, kungani ubhema, awukwazi". "
Futhi wangiphendula ukuthi bangenabo ugwayi ne-nicotine. Ngabuza ngixakile: "Ngani?" Wasusa isandla sakhe: "Yebo, kunjalo, siyanda eMoscow." Wayenomuzwa wokuhlekisa, wathanda zonke izinhlobo zokudonswa. Ngingakhuluma ngaye ngokungenamkhawulo.
USergey Mikhalkov. Photo: UGennady Cherkasov.
- Sitshele ngokudonswa kwakhe?
- Ngandlela thile eMosfilm wahola ukubuka isithombe esisha sendoda eyodwa eqinile egqoke isudi engwevu futhi wachazela wonke umuntu ukuthi lo mqondo omkhulu. Bonke abakhathazekile, bacabanga ukuthi kungumuntu ovela ku-nomenclature, ekomitini ephakathi neCPSU, kusukela uMnyango Wezamasiko. Umbono wonke wawuhleli, wathuthumela, khona-ke lo muntu wahamba futhi wonke umuntu waphuthuma eMikhalkov ngemibuzo eyayiyokuthi kwakuvela kumuntu nokuthi yisiphi isakhiwo esivela kuliphi futhi yisiphi isakhiwo.
Lapho ememezela khona ngesizotha ukuthi lo ngumshayeli wakhe kaYura. Futhi wabe esekhuluma noMqondisi: "Ungenzi yini i-movie kaNgqongqoshe? Udubula abantu abalula. Uma uthandile i-yura, khona-ke wonke umuntu uzokuthanda. Bheka ukuthi uJura wahleka kanjani, wacishe wafa ngokuhleka. Ngakho-ke, ifilimu izophumelela kakhulu. " Futhi wayeqinisile. Umuzwa wakhe wokuhlekisa wawumuhle.
Kuyiqiniso, ukuba khona kanye nokutholakala komkhulu - Iphini likaMkhandlu Ophakeme - Ukubalwa ngokuzenzakalelayo ku "ntsha yegolide", ku-nomenclature, kodwa, ngiyabonga ukuphula lesi simo. Lapho ngiphothula esikoleni, ngathunyelwa ukuyofunda eNgilandi, ngaze zonke izilingo. Yize umkhulu waphikisana ngokwesigaba nokusuka kwami, wayekholelwa ukuthi ngizosebenza ngokushesha kwi-CIA.
- Futhi uhlala kanjani eNgilandi, unazo izinkumbulo ezihlekisayo zeminyaka yabafundi?
- Ngifunde eCambridge. Leli yidolobha elithule lapho wonke umuntu alala ekuseni, konke kuvaliwe ekuseni ukuthi abafundi abayena "uBuhali." Kepha sisakwazi ukudakwa. Ngemuva kokuthi ubhiya wePinte ayisithupha-nesishiyagalombili aqale kamuva nje, kwakufuna ukudla okwesabisayo. Futhi ngingeze esitsheni esibizwa nge- "Fish & Chips". Uhlobo lokudla olusheshayo olunjalo. "Izinhlanzi & ama-chips" kufanele ziqiniseke ukuthi zisongelwa okusha namuhla futhi zibize wonke la manani. ENgilandi, ngokuvamile ngafunda ukudla ngenani eliphansi lezimpawu zezimali, iphawundi elilodwa ngosuku. Cishe bonke abafundi bandla.
Ngakho-ke, ukuphela kwendawo lapho kungenzeka khona ukuthenga ukudla edolobheni laseCambridge, okungukuthi, le hamburger elula, kwakuwumgodi osodongeni, futhi kwavela khona isandla esifundeni esinabafundi abadakiwe , ukuncika odongeni, ngaphandle kwalokho babezolingana, bathola isabelo sabo.
Ngenkathi ungena ngaphansi kwemvula ebabazekayo ebuyela kimi emgodini futhi wadla i-hamburger endleleni, wena, okokuqala, ngaphuthelwa leli zwi lamazwi, kanti okwesibili, ubunomuzwa wokuhlaselwa komzimba wakho. Kusabangela imemori ye-nostalgic. Kwesinye isikhathi ngiya endaweni yokudlela, ngi-oda into efanayo, kepha akunjalo.
- Ngabe uyathanda ukupheka ekhaya?
- Imvamisa ngisiza kuphela ngokuziphatha, ngoba ukungipheka, ukuthi ungasho kanjani, nami, ngakho-ke akukufanele ukulindele lezimanga. Kepha umama nowesifazane uLyuba (umlingisi othandekayo uTolkalina) balungiselela ukukhanselwa. Endlini yethu yezwe, umama wakho unekhishi lawo elihlukile, no-Luba, ngoba abaphathi ababili ekhishini elilodwa alicabangeki. Futhi ngigijimisana kuphela phakathi kwabo futhi ngidle. By the way, indodakazi kaMasha ilulama kakhulu ama-dessert. Futhi sihamba kakhulu nomndeni wonke ngamaholide kuphela.
- Ayini amaholide akho owathandayo?
- Iholide elithandekayo kakhulu, kunjalo, unyaka omusha. Sinesiko elinjalo - ukudla kahle nokuphuza, bese kuthi ngaphansi kwempi yama-chimes, kuvutha amanothi ngezifiso ezithandekayo. Eminyakeni yamuva nje angibhali amanothi - zonke izifiso zami zagcwaliseka. Futhi zonke izihlobo ziza eholidini, futhi uma singena egumbini, akukho ndawo - ngaphambi kokuthi kuningi kithi. Ngiyayithanda izehlakalo ezinjalo.
- Ngabe uyaqhubeka nesiko leMikhalkov - Konchalovsky ukuqoqa wonke umuntu etafuleni elilodwa?
- Ugogo u-Natalia Petrovna wayengumhloli onomoya wokungenisa izihambi futhi abenomoya wokungenisa izihambi, futhi abantu abakha isisekelo segolide sesiko laseRussia - uSimonov, u-Aleksin, uChingiz Aitmatov nabanye abaningi, abakholi wonke umuntu. Njengoba ubaba ekhumbula, ngaleso sikhathi babemncane futhi becabanga, njengebhodlela le-champagne etafuleni ukuntshontsha, futhi akukho lutho abasho lwabantu abakhulu, kamuva ngokuqinile bazisola ngokuqinile. Azikho ubuntu obunjalo etafuleni elilodwa netafula elilodwa, khona-ke isikhathi sadlula ngokungathandeki.
Ngokuqondene namasiko emindeni yethu ... lapho izihlobo zethu zibuthana, khona-ke kwesinye isikhathi umkhulu wayekade ekhononda kangangokuba wayefuna ukudla kwasemini kwendoda engamashumi amane. Eqinisweni, wayazi futhi ukuthi lakuhle ukuthi la masiko angcwele yizihlobo.
- Yiziphi izitsha zakho ezenziwa ekhaya ezenziwe ekhaya?
- Ukuze uthembeke, izitsha zakho ozithandayo zingama-cutlet. Lapho umama wami esuka ekudubuleni, ngashiya udadewabo kaKatya, futhi umama wami washiya ama-cutlets angalulwa izinsuku eziningana. Eqinisweni, kunzima kakhulu ukuphendula umbuzo owuthandayo kakhulu - ama-bitles noma ama-eros ramazotti. Izinto zezingane ezilula engizikhumbulayo zesikole zabangelwa impilo yethu yaseSoviet, futhi bekungafanele zikhethe. Manje-ke, ungazamazama. Kepha, kusukela ezikhathini zaseSoviet konke kwaphuma ezitezi, bekungadingeki ukuba athathe.
Kuliqiniso, umkhulu waba namantombazane amahle. Ukukhumbula, ngiyaqonda ukuthi lokhu kungukudla okujwayelekile ngaphandle kwe-caviar. Ngokuvamile, sinokuningi ne-caviar. Lapho uBaba ehlala eMelika futhi engasebenzi iminyaka emine, usephenduke i-caviar. Futhi ngikhumbula kulokhu lapho eletha ekhaya amakhilogremu ambalwa we-caviar, kepha akunakwenzeka ukudla. Futhi lapho ewasebenzisa ngaphesheya komngcele, wakhuluma nezikhulu zokuthi le yi-caviar yokuthola ngesikhathi sefilimu. Izikhulu Zamasiko zikholelwa futhi ziphuthelwe. Wathengisa naye futhi izinyanga ezimbili noma ezintathu ngokuthobeka eLos Angeles. Ngakho-ke ngebhizinisi elincane lomhlobiso, umqondisi wemisebenzi yaseMelika u-Andrei Konchalovsky waqala. Ngokuvamile, ukuze uthembeke, khona-ke mina, namathini ambalwa e-caviar athengiswayo. Sine-chip yomndeni enjalo ukuthengisa i-caviar.
- Ivela isidlo esithandekayo - i-caviar?
- Ngibuke uhlelo amahlandla ambalwa mayelana nokuthi i-caviar evuthayo ithola kanjani, futhi eMoscow, ithengisa kakhulu ukubamba i-caviar eshibhile, futhi sonke isifiso sokudla sanyamalala ku-ICRU. Mhlawumbe, ukudla okusheshayo akukuhle, kepha vuma, uma nsuku zonke kukhona amaphayi amahle ngamakhowe kanye nokujabulisa okuhlukile, kuphansi futhi. Ngicabanga ukuthi akukho lutho olubi ekudleni okusheshayo, uma kukhona ngokulinganisela. Kwesinye isikhathi, ukushayela kudlule indawo yokudlela esheshayo yokudla, ngizodla ngentokozo i-hamburger.
- Bonke abapheki banesithako esiyimfihlo sokupheka. Uyamthanda umqondisi, yini ingweli eyimfihlo yokupheka i-kinoillud yakho?
- Uyazi, kungaba kuhle ukuba nesabelomali. Esimweni se-cinema - le yinto efana nesitsha se-master edumile - ingathola ithalente, futhi ingaba buthakathaka. Azikho izindlela ezikhethekile, konke kuhlale kwehlukile. Ikakhulu, abadlali bayisithako esiyimfihlo nengxenye ethile yobunzima. Ubunzima obukhulu, obungcono. Lapho konke kuhamba kahle, akuhlali kukuhle ngaso sonke isikhathi. Ubunzima banobunzima obukhethekile, futhi ubunzima bungahluka kakhulu. Manje sengikukhohliwe i-Mironov ezansi kwesixhaphozi. Babopha, behlile emanzini, bese kuba khona okuthile. Lapho sebegxuma ... Ngokuvamile, ngasindisa umculi. Wayenabo bonke ubunzima abakufanele, futhi isithombe saphenduka saphenduka. Nginezindaba eziningi ezimnandi nezidabukisayo ngesikhathi somsebenzi. Into eyodwa engingayisho ngokuqinisekile: I-movie ubuciko bokuphuthelwa amathuba. Kungaleso sikhathi uma bethi awuzange uthole amaphesenti angamashumi amathathu, bese ubheka njengenhlanhla.
- Yini osebenza ngayo manje?
- Ngolunye usuku ngadlula isithombe esibizwa ngokuthi: "Baku, ngiyakuthanda." Le yiphrojekthi enkulu yamazwe omhlaba lapho iqembu laphesheya kusuka kubalingisi nabaqondisi ababambe iqhaza. Indaba kaBaku nabantu bakaBaku, umlando wezwe. Umphathi wephrojekthi - uLeila Aliyev, futhi ngenza njengomkhiqizi. Kusele ukulinda i-ambulensi Premiere, ngithemba ukuthi umbukeli uzosithanda isithombe.
- Futhi ungathanda ukuthatha izithombe ngomndeni wakho? Ngemuva kwakho konke, unesihlobo, ubuntu.
"Ngingathanda ukuhoxisa ifilimu eliphelele eligcwele ngogogo wami, ngempilo yakhe, egcwele izehlakalo ezimnandi nenjabulo. Yize kunjalo, wadlula empini enkulu yokuthanda izwe, wayengumbhali wezempi, walimala, ukungenela.
Kuyadabukisa ukuthi u-Arrem Mikhalkov, umzukulu wakhe wesibili, ukuguga, ufana kakhulu noSergey Mikhalkov ebusheni bakhe, munye nje, mina, ngimenza azodlala umkhulu wakhe.
Mina ngokwami angifani nogogo wami ubukeke ngaphandle, kepha wonke umuntu uyabona ukuthi eminyakeni yamuva kunamaphimbo afanayo. Zonke izihlobo zithathe izici zokufana kancane kancane kancane.
- Yini ehlanganisa umndeni onobungane futhi odumile waseMikhalkov - Konchalovsky?
- Ngaphandle kokuthi uSergey Mikhalkov wayengumuntu ohlakaniphile futhi onobuhlakani owazizwa isikhathi nomoya, wayesezingeni eliphakeme kakhulu - adventuralism enempilo. Futhi le mfanelo yaya kukho konke. Ichaze ngokuphelele ubaba, ngoNikita Sergeyevich futhi akukho engingakusho, ngathola ifa kusuka kubaba. Ingena kuzo zonke izinhlobo zezikhombisi zefilimu ngomqondo omuhle weZwi - Sinomndeni. Bengifuna futhi ukusho ukuthi uMikhalkov-Sr. Kwakuyisitimela esikhulu, wayekwazi ukujabulela impilo, wayeyindoda elungile, impikiswano, ngakho-ke waphila isikhathi eside. Nazi lezi zimfanelo, ngicabanga ukuza kuqala emndenini wethu, kunoma yikuphi, ngiletha lezi zimfanelo kimi.