USergey Ugyaumov ungomunye wabalingisi abangaqondakali kakhulu bezwe lethu. Futhi hhayi ngoba kuziwa kancane ngaye ngaphezu kwalokho, lapho azalwa khona, wafunda nalokho anamadodana amabili, kodwa ngoba ake acaci, ukuthi kungukuthi: Kuvinjelwe ngegobolondo futhi njalo futhi kuvalwe njalo futhi yonke indawo ivinjelwe. Amaqhawe alo kanye namaqhawe alo ajwayelekile, ahola kabili, noma nomdlalo okhudlwana, uvame ukuchuma nje. Imininingwane - engxoxweni nomagazini "Atmosphere".
"USergey, ekugcineni kwenkathi oyidlale ama-higgins e-Premiere yeshashalazi yeshashalazi ka-Oleg Tabakov" intokazi yami enhle. " AmaHiggins, ukubeka ngobumnene, hhayi umuntu olula kakhulu kanye ne-egoist enkulu kwezokuxhumana. Nawe?
- Noma yimuphi umuntu onethalente ebonakaliswa ngezenzo ezithile ezengeziwe, futhi ngokujwayelekile, abantu abanethalente bavame ukungahambi ekuxhumaneni empilweni ejwayelekile yasendlini. Vele uyi-egoist. Futhi, njengoba enethalente eliningi, eligxile kokuthile kwabantu munye. Ngihlala ngiyazibuza ukuthi yini eshayela umuntu. Ngakho-ke, amaHiggins ashayela ibhizinisi lakhe. Futhi kimi, umsebenzi uyinto ebaluleke kakhulu. Kuyiqiniso, abantu bami abaseduze bahlupheka. Futhi ngingasho ngami ukuthi ngingu-egoist, kwesinye isikhathi ngezinga elikhulu, kwesinye isikhathi kube mncane. Ngilwa nalokhu, kodwa ngempumelelo ehlukahlukene. (Emamatheka.) Ukusebenza kwethu lapho i-metamorphosis ingenzeka khona kubantu abaqalekisiwe, noma umusa obizwa ngokuthi uthando.
- "Intokazi yami enhle" kungenye indaba kathisha kanye nomfundi. Ungene nemihlangano nabaqondisi abahle nakwimidlalo yaseshashalazini, nase-movie ...
- Yebo, kepha okubaluleke kakhulu - nabalingani. Kimi kubaluleke kakhulu. Sikhulume nomqondisi, futhi nempilo eyengeziwe yokudlala yethu isivele yethu, imayini kanye nabalingani, nokuthi sihlangana kanjani nomunye, impumelelo yayo incike. Futhi i-cinema iyindaba ehlukile.
- Ingabe ukuwulawula kalula? Umlingisi ngemuva kwakho konke, umuntu othembele. Njengomthetho, hamba uyomqondisi noma uthanda ukunikela ngokwakho, ukuzwa umbono wakho?
- Noma kunjalo, empeleni, abantu abakhayo, angithandi ukubhubhisa. Futhi okubaluleke kakhulu - ngiyawuthanda umsebenzi wami, futhi yena, ngombono wami, ubuhlakani obukhulu. Ngakho-ke, ngokuyisisekelo, ngicabanga ukuthi kuyadingeka ukulandela umqondisi.
- Usebenze nge-urgey ursulak kumafilimu "wedwa" kanye ne- "ISEV". Ngokubona kwami, ukuhlangana naye kuhlale kuyinjabulo futhi ngomkhathi esizeni, futhi ngokusho komphumela omuhle kakhulu ...
- Impela. USergey Vladimirovich onenhlonipho ejulile ubhekisa emsebenzini ozosebenza futhi ngaso sonke isikhathi uyazi ukuthi ufunani. Ngakho-ke, ngiyakwamukela ngokukhethwa kwabaculi endaweni eyodwa noma esinye. Futhi uma engangimeme ukuthi ngiboshwe, angisoze ngacabanga ukucasuka. Kepha ku-movie futhi kusuka kumqondisi akuwona konke kuncike. Kukhona opharetha, ukufakwa ... noma lelo jantshi lingaphawula leli cala. Impumelelo enkulu kakhulu, futhi kwesinye isikhathi bonke bangenakuphikwa, njengoba kunjalo, noma kunjalo, kunoma yimuphi ubuciko. Mhlawumbe konke, kepha into esemqoka ngeke yenzeke. Kunezibonelo eziningi, njengophambuka, lapho akukho okufanekisela impumelelo, futhi ngokuzumayo weza.
"Ngabiza abantu hhayi ukuhleka kuphela, kodwa futhi nezinyembezi. Omunye-nami ngesaba ngengulube ye-Guinea, wesaba kakhulu yena. Futhi bengimesaba kakhulu ngaye. Futhi bengizesaba kakhulu ngaye.
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- Ifomula yempumelelo ayinakwenzeka ngokuphelele?
- Akayena. Ngeshwa, futhi mhlawumbe ngenhlanhla. Lapho konke kuzalelwa ekuhlushweni futhi kungazelelwe kuvela, unemizwa ehluke ngokuphelele ngokungafani nalabo lapho bephumelele. Ukumangala kunikeza imizwa eqinile.
- Ukwenza i-Theatre Studio noma ngokungena kwi-Institute, ngabe wawumelela esiteji noma uphuphe nge-movie ngokuyisisekelo futhi uletha udumo?
- Kwakukhathazekile ngami. Ngiseyingane, nganginelukulungela imizwa engiyibonayo, ngibona ukuthi abantu basabela kanjani ekukhathuni kwami. Nansi i-bacillus, ebingene kimi, ngiyabonga uNkulunkulu, ngathola ukubonwa emsebenzini.
- Nonke niqale ukudonswa kwezingane. Usesikoleni, ngisho nakuBellarten wavusa abafana ekuhlekeni. Kukunikeze ini, kungani ukwenzile?
- Angikwazanga ukuqonda le mizwa, angikwazanga ukuzikhalela ngandlela thile, ngani ngenza. Futhi ngendlela, ngangenzi nje hhayi kuphela ukusabela okuhlekisayo, kepha imizwa ehlukene, kufaka phakathi izinyembezi. Isibonelo, enkulisa, ngesaba ukuhlangana ngengulube yolwandle, wamesaba kakhulu kuye. Futhi ukusabela kwakhe bekuthakazelisa kimi. Lapho kuba umuntu omdala, kunjalo, "ukuma" kwangaphakathi kwase kufakiwe. Ngaphezu kwalokho, naye wajwayelana nabantu abaphonswe esiteji, kanjalonjalo, ngale ndlela, konke bekufana nokusho u-Oleg Palych, ubeke izithombo, okungukuthi, wathumela ngakwesokunene.
- Lapho umqondisi wezobuciko we-Theatre Studio "Romantic" URimma Mikhailovna Taranenko uyakwalule ukuthi ungene e-Theatre Institute, wamkholwa masinyane?
- Angikaze ngicabange. Ngatshelwa: "Hambani nihambe," futhi kulula kakhulu futhi nizethemba ukuthi kungenzeka ukuthi kungenzeka ukuthi akuveli, iyiphi indlela okufanele uqhubeke ngayo.
- Ukukhuluma esiteji, usuvele uzizwe ephumelela, ukuthandwa, mhlawumbe naphakathi kothisha?
- Kusihlwa yethu, kusukela esiteji, ekubeni ngohlobo oluthile lwesithombe, ngakwazi ukukhokhela okuningi maqondana nothisha. Kwakuwukuhlangana kokuqala kwabo ngendlela. Futhi ngangimisa. Ngakho-ke, mhlawumbe, into ebaluleke kakhulu yalethwa, ikakhulukazi kubantu bezobuciko, umuzwa wokulinganisa, ukuqonda lapho ungangena khona ngezisekelo ezithile zokuziphatha, zokuziphatha, nalapho kungenzeki khona. Uthisha wayehleli phambi kwami, kodwa ngaba nokuvikela - isithombe, imaskhi. Futhi babeqonda ukuthi esiteji angizange ngibe nakancane, yize ngangikhumbula inkululeko yami esiteji. (Ehleka.) Umzuzu wokuxhumana nombukeli, le mizwa yayiyinto emangalisayo kimi. Angikwazanga ukukhetha amagama kulomzwa kulo muzwa kulo muzwa, futhi kwakungu-Mutual Interchange.
- Wayazi ngobukhona beSchukinsky Vereval School naseKazan. Futhi akwenzekanga ekhanda ukuthi eMoscow, mhlawumbe, kunamanyuvesi amaningi?
"Cha, ngandlela thile ngagxila ngakugxila, ngabamba yona, njengezinduku ezimbili zokudoba. Kokunye, eKazani, kwakukhona ukuluma, ngakhipha.
- Kuyavela, bakwenza konke okulungile, futhi eMoscow kwavela maduze nje. Ufuna kuphi futhi ubani ofuna, asevele eqonda?
- Angizange ngicabange ngalutho nganoma yini nganoma yini nganoma yini. Futhi bengingazi lutho. Etholakele ngonyaka wesibili, kusethi eyengeziwe ye-MCAT Studio. Angizikhumbuli ngokweqiniso, kodwa nganginesimo semizwa - nakanjani ngizohamba. Ukuzimisela kwakukukhulu. Mhlawumbe, ukube bekungadlulanga, futhi bekungayithatha ngonyaka wesithathu, futhi, ngenxa yalokho, ngoba sengikuqonda ukuthi kwakungokwami. Ngakho-ke kwenzeka ngempumelelo ukuthi ngavunyelwa ukubheka ugwayi. Umnyango wonke ukhetheke abantu abayisishiyagalombili, kanti ababili babo - mina noMariash Schulz - mathupha u-Oleg Palych.
- Yimuphi umbono oshiywe ngaphandle kwakhe, khumbula?
- Wayeseyisikhathi sonke esimiselwe ndawo ndawo. Kepha, naphezu kokuthi wayeseshukumisekile, kwakungenzima ukuyeka futhi ngokucophelela, ngokucophelela, ngokucophelela, ngokucophelela, noma ngabe kufanele akhulume naye ngokuphelele. Ngakho-ke kwakukhona nami. Sisanda kuhlangana naye emgodini. Futhi kamuva, nalona umsebenzi wakhe, noma inani lemithwalo yemfanelo alithatha, akazange amphazamise ukumbona ukuze abone indoda ethile kumuntu, noma ngabe imbi kangakanani. Uhlala edlulela emhlolweni wenkinga, futhi wakwenza ngokushesha, futhi wathatha isinqumo ngaso leso sikhathi. Kwangithanda njalo. Futhi isikhathi eside, size sisondela, wayengumfundisi wami, okwathi ngavele sasondela ngenxa yesizathu esithile. Ngemuva kwalokho ngabona ukuthi ubesengumhleli omuhle kakhulu noMuntu ogqamile onamandla anamandla amakhulu: wathatha abantu emgodini wakhe - abekho isikhathi eside, bezungeza omunye umjikelezo eduze kwakhe, eqhubeka nomsebenzi wakhe. Futhi manje kubukeka sengathi akekho noyedwa oseceleni kwethu, kodwa okufanayo, akekho noyedwa osusele imithetho ye-Inertia - futhi ibhizinisi lakhe liyaphila.
"U-Oleg Pavlovich Tobakov kwesinye isikhathi wangibiza ngendodana yakhe. Lo ngumuntu osho ngempela kimi ngokungaphansi kwabazali"
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- Kwakunzima kuwe lapho engakwenzi?
- Futhi manje kunzima, ngoba lapho kushiya isakhi sakhe esiyinhloko sisuka esikhaleni esiminyene, lokhu kungahle kube kuphela, umgodi isikhathi eside. Futhi kukhudlwana isikali somuntu, lowo uyabonakala. Ngicabanga ukuthi le vacuum izozwakala isikhathi eside ngemuva kokunakekelwa kwakhe.
- Ngesikhathi sesifundo sakho, ngabe kwenzekani, kwavela ukuphelelwa yithemba?
- Futhi ubani ongenabo? ISIFUNDO NGIYAQHAWULA KULULA LAPHA. Uma ubhale kwiDiploma - Umculi, akusho ukuthi ungenza konke. Kufanele, ulungele konke futhi ukwazi ukukwazi konke, kepha empeleni kuza nesipiliyoni. Eshashalazini owela kwesinye, hhayi nhlobo neqembu labafundi - futhi isigaba esisha siqala empilweni. Futhi ngesabelo ngaso sonke isikhathi, lapho u-Oleg Pavlovich efika esivivinyweni noma kunesidingo sokumbonisa uhlobo oluthile lomsebenzi. Noma lapho ofunda nabo baxoshwa. Kwabonakala sengathi bekungalungile, futhi sokwazisa, lokho futhi ungaqonda isiphetho esifanayo. Vele, khona-ke besingakuqondi ukuthi bengiqonde ukuthini ukuhlukana nalokhu noma lowo mfundi futhi yimuphi umthwalo wemfanelo awuthathayo uma eshiya umuntu owayezokhipha. Ngakho-ke, kwakukhona nokuthuthumela, futhi ukwesaba okwandike ngokwesaba ukunemba kwezinyathelo zokuqala kulo msebenzi, hhayi njalo amaphaphu.
- Futhi khumbula ukudumisa kokuqala?
"Ngivele ngakwenza, kwaba nombukiso wokuqala womsebenzi ozimele, futhi i-vasisuali lohankin yami evela" ithole legolide "wamkhuthaza. Nami futhi. (Emamatheka.) Okuningi phakathi nezifundo zakhe, akazange angidumise kakhulu.
- Ababelethi bakho baphathe kanjani uthando lwezingane zakho?
- Umama akazange akhombise imizwa ekhethekile, wakhuthaza amakilasi ami, wajabula ukuthi angizange ngihlanganyele emgwaqweni. Kepha angikwazi ukusho ukuthi ujabule kulokho ebengikwenza kulombiko. Futhi ubaba akazange anengqondo. Bathukuthele kuphela lapho ngithe ngeke ngiye esikoleni samasosha, kodwa eshashalazini.
- Kepha akazange akuyeke. Ngokuvamile, ungakuvimba?
"UNkulunkulu uyamazi ukuthi ngaleso sikhathi babesemakhanda abo." Ngaleso sikhathi, ubaba wethu nobaba babenobuhlobo obunjalo abuqondayo: Sengivele ngibonise izimpawu zendoda, okungukuthi, nginesibopho salokho okwashiwo, futhi uma ngithatha isinqumo esithile, kusho ukuthi akunjalo nje. Futhi wahlonipha maqondana nesinqumo sami, kepha umama wayemelene ngokwesigaba. Wambheka ngaso sonke isikhathi, kungani engivumela mina. Kepha uyise wathi: "Bayeke basebenzise imali babuye."
- Ngiyazi ukuthi ubaba wakho wayeyizempi. Futhi ubani owayesebenza umama?
- I-Dishwasher esibhedlela samasosha. Kepha yena, njengobukeli, wayeyithanda kakhulu i-movie nemidlalo yaseshashalazini kakhulu. Futhi kwakungumuntu othinta imizwa, wayesondelene nakho konke okusondelene nakho: nokuhleka, nezinyembezi.
- Iminyaka engamashumi amathathu alahlekelwe ubaba, umama ngisho ngaphambili. Ukwazile ukubamba impumelelo yakho yokuqala?
- hhayi. Wayazi ukuthi ngiseMoscow, ngisebenza enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini, ngihlala ehostela. I-cinema kuleyo minyaka ibingekho nhlobo, futhi ukusebenza kokuqala okubalulekile kwakungu "Bumbarash" ("Passion kuBumbarash". - Vakan. QAPHELA.), Kodwa abakuboni. Ubaba akakaze angibone esiteji nhlobo. Amanye ama-batch ahamba phambili aqala, kodwa wajabula lokhu, wawungumuntu obabazekayo (emamatheka), owayethanda ukungidumisa. Lapho ehlala yedwa, kwakunzima kuye, ngaqala ukuphonsa imali leyo mali, futhi ngokusobala wabona ukuthi sengivele ngitholile ngezinyawo zami, futhi ngaze ngenzondo ngokuphelele. Ngiyethemba wayengijabule ngami.
- Usufike eminyakeni yobudala, ingabe uyazifunda ngokwakho, ngomkhuba, kwenye into?
- Impela. Unganjani? Angikwazi ukusho ngokuqondile kulokho, kepha ngithola.
- Uthi ubaba wayenamandla, futhi waphakamisela kanjani izingane zakho?
- Futhi. Kepha ngezichimo eqinisweni lokuthi ngangizizwa ngisebuntwaneni bami lapho ngijeziswa, ukungalungi okugcwele. Futhi ngezikhathi ezithile zayazi ukuthi njengoba ubaba angeke enze.
- Uvele ufundise ekolishi ...
"Ngingabaza kakhulu ngemfundiso yami, no-Oleg Palech ukusho." Ngavuma, ngoba okwesithathu sengivele ngenqabe kabi. Kepha "ukufundisa" kushiwo ngokuqinile, ngoba nginomsebenzi omkhulu enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini manje, nangesikhathi esiningi udinga ukusebenza nabafundi. Ngabelana ngesipiliyoni sakho, kunalokho lokhu kungabizwa ngokuthi ukuqondiswa kokululeka.
- Ucabanga ukuthi isizukulwane esincane sabadlali siyafana nokwakho, noma kuhluke ngokuphelele?
- Ngandlela thile bayefana, futhi entweni ethile kunomehluko omkhulu. Banengqondo embi, ngoba bekungafanele bamele ebuntwaneni lapho induku isibhamu, inezibhamu, futhi zihlukile. Okungukuthi, ebuntwaneni, umvikeli uyazalwa futhi ingcebo yezwe elingaphakathi iyachithwa. Nabo - ingxenye enkulu - ubuntwana buvikelwe, ngokungakhathali. Futhi banesivumelwano esibi ngokuxhumana. Ukuxhumana, amanethiwekhi omphakathi ... enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini, ngokuvamile kuyalimaza, ngoba lapha kuyadingeka ukuxhumana ngqo. Kepha ziningi mobile, ukuvumelana kokuthile esikuthile eminyakeni yabo.
- I-ERUDITE?
- Kepha lokhu, bengiphikisana, ukuqeda kwabo kungukuthi kunobunzima. Kepha akulona iphutha labo, kodwa abazali. Futhi sawubona sawubona "onobuhlakani" ovela eMnyangweni Wezemfundo, abaHulumeni Basezintabeni ababulawa ngamashumi ayisishiyagalolunye, yize athole uhlelo lwemfundo engaphelele, kodwa asaletha imiphumela yawo. Futhi manje, futhi iminyaka engamashumi amathathu iyalwa, nginganikeza noma yini.
- Ngandlela thile washo ukuthi bavuthiwe ekuseni kakhulu ngenxa yokuthi akekho abazali. Usuvele ube umuntu osemdala futhi kabili nobaba, ubona sengathi akwanele kubo?
- Impela. Ngenkathi abazali bephila, uyingane. Futhi lapho nje sebehamba, uba ngowokugcina kulokhu kulayini. Kukhona ukukhula nokuqonda ukuthi awuseyena umfana futhi akekho ozokushayela ucingo. Yize u-Oleg Palych kwesinye isikhathi abizwa kanjalo. (Ehleka.) Kepha akagcinanga nje engikhuluma nami. Lo ngumuntu osho ukuthi angisho lutho ngaphezu kwabazali bami abangilethele iphuzu elithile. U-Oleg Palych waba nomthelela omkhulu okwenzeka kimi manje, empilweni yami yamanje, njengakwathi abaningi bethu, abalandeli bakhe. Ukuthi uVolOnya Mashkov ungomunye walezo.
- Usebenze noVladimir Mashkov ndawonye naphezu kwe- "Bumbarash", bese kuthi lapho ku-MHT ngaphezulu kokwenza umsebenzi "№13" no- "№13D". Kepha-ke wayengeyena umqondisi wobuciko. Manje ubudlelwano bakho bushintshile?
- Sisanda kusebenza "ekuthuleni kwamatiloya" futhi manje sidlala ndawonye lapho. Futhi sekuyisikhathi eside kuhlungwa ngefilimu yakhe "ubaba". Ngicabanga ukuthi uVolvodya akashintshi okuningi. Cha, kunjalo, kunezinguquko ezithile, kepha noma ngubani uyaphila futhi eshintsha. Entweni eya kwaba lula, entweni enzima kakhulu. Kwenye indawo engizibambe khona, endaweni ethile, kunalokho, ngithi ngikubheka njengokudingekile. Ngalo mqondo, asinazinkinga.
- Wake wakujabulela lapho ekhanda inkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi?
- Yebo kakhulu. Ngicabanga ukuthi lokhu kulungele i-Theatre yethu.
- Kwenzekani nge-movie yakho manje? Ube nokunikezwa okuhehayo?
- Manje bekukhona inkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi eminingi. Kuhlala njalo amacebo ku-movie, kepha angaphuka nganoma yisiphi isikhathi. Ngakho-ke, ngeke ngikhulume namanje. I-Theatre iyinto eqinile eqinile. Ezikhathini ezinzima kakhulu, ngeminyaka yamashumi ayisishiyagalolunye, ngangihlala ngibonga yena kuphela. Sengivele nginalokhu kugoma - ukuba khona ngaphandle kwe-cinema. Ngiyaqonda ukuthi inkundla yaseshashalazini yitheku, lapho ngikwazi ukulinda noma yiziphi izikhathi zokujaha.
"Ngidinga okuncane empilweni yansuku zonke, angisiye indoda eyimpandla, hhayi imfashini, angazi ukuthi ngiphumula kanjani. Kwesinye isikhathi ngithanda ukudla izitsha ezimnandi, kodwa ngithanda"
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- Ngeminyaka yamashumi ayisishiyagalolunye, usunele ukuze uphile enkundleni yemidlalo yaseshashalazini noma usebenzele ndawo ndawo?
- Umfundi usebenze kakhulu, futhi enkundleni yemidlalo - akusekho. Akuyona imali eyanele, kunjalo, kodwa kwakunguSanta Claus wonyaka omusha.
- Usengavele ukhethe amaphrojekthi ku-movie kuphela lezo ezijabulisa wena? Ungazihluphi ngemali, ikhefu?
- Konke kwenzeka ngazo zonke izindlela. Lona ngumsebenzi wami. Vele, kufanele alethe ukwaneliseka okudala, kepha uma ngibona ukuthi ngeke ngiyithole lapha, khona-ke umbuzo uphakama ngemali ekhokhwayo, mayelana nesinxephezelo sezinto ezibonakalayo. Kepha ngokuvamile, angidingi impilo yansuku zonke, angisiye indoda eyimpandla, hhayi imfashini, anazi nokuthi ungaphumula kanjani. Kwesinye isikhathi ngithanda ukudla okumnandi, kepha ngiyayithanda lapho inezitsha ezilula.
- Othile ovela kubadlali afana nenduku yokudoba, umuntu uyahamba, futhi kuthiwani ngawe ngokushintsha?
- Uma ukwazile, iya kubangani kubangani kuVolga, vele uphume eMoscow. Ngihambe kakhulu nethiyetha. Ekuqaleni, konke lokhu bekumangala, nami nginesimanga, kodwa ngokushesha saqala ukuzwa ukuthi ngesonto nesigamu ngangisuke nganelisekile ngemibono yakho futhi ngifuna ukuya ekhaya.
- nasezweni laseMpumalanga, eMpumalanga Ekude, bekulokhu kudala? Azikho izihlobo ezisele lapho?
- Isikhathi eside. Kwakukhona izihlobo nje ezisele. Lokhu kungikimi eKamyshina, lapho sasihlala khona ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, akekho noyedwa. Futhi eMpumalanga Ekude Nabafowethu Besekondari, nomalume, kanye noMalume. Sisekela ubudlelwano nabo. Ngifuna ngempela ukuya lapho. Kalula nje isikhathi, kunzima ukuhlela, udinga isixazululo esinemibandela.
- Usekela kanjani uhlelo lwakho lwezinzwa? Ngemuva kwakho konke, lo msebenzi uwubukela phansi ...
- Ukucatshangelwa. Ngiyathanda ukubuka. Ngemuva kwabantu, imvelo, ngakho konke okungizungezile.