"I-Efim Zalmanovich, ngexesha elinye abaphulaphuli baphulukana neyona bhanti kunye nombhali we-monogues ye-efim Schifrin, kodwa wathenga umlingisi. Ngaba uyavuya ukuba olo tshintsho lwenzekile?
- Ewe, la magama akhwazayo ... (ehleka.) Ndinomda obanzi kwicandelo lomsebenzi. Amafama aya kuqonda. Kuba xa umhlaba ucekeceke kwaye umhlaba uyadinwa, kuya kufuneka usoloko uthathela indlu yakho kwaye uye kwenye indawo. Kubonakala ngathi kukho apha kule nto, ndabelalalele kum ukwenza umhlaba, kwiPop, isivuno, izilimo, ndaqhubeka ndinqabile. Kwaye mna, ngaphandle kokuphosa eli lizwe, ngaphandle kokuphela, ndikhuse nje indawo ezimbalwa. Enye yazo yayilixesha elinye elibizwa ngokuba yi-CRUS, elinye i-roude ye-vis, indawo yesithathu ibizwa ngokuba yimabonwakude, kunye nesine - into oyithandayo yimidlalo yethiyetha. Ke enye ifleki yongezwa kuye, ebizwa ngokuba yindawo yemiculo yomculo. Ngale mpazamo ukuphila kakhulu kumnandi. Kunye nabo, kunjalo, kubunzima ngakumbi ukuphatha, kodwa ndaya emsebenzini ngakumbi xa sele ndenziwe ngethoni yemvula okanye xa impumelelo yokuqala ifikile.
- Zingaphi izinto oxakeke ngayo ngoku?
- Eli lixesha lomculo "awakhethwanga" kwiMveli yeMveli, kukho i-Redument yeMiculo ", i-Debyles intle", ukudlala kwi-Viktyuk Theatre "intyatyambo evaliweyo" ... Le yintsebenzo yokugqibela ye-mingal mikhalych kazakov, awayekwazi ukubeka eRussia. Kukho inkqubo yam ye-pop-up ebizwa ngokuba yi "seifrynisms-en". Ngelishwa, abo badlali abathathu abathandayo basandula ukwenziwa: "I-Schwartsevysky" "inamba" kwimveliso kaMirzovava ye-janya vaye, yabizwa ngokuba "ngabarhwebi beerabha". Ngoku ndisandithuka kukudubula malunga nokudubula kuchungechunge olukhulu, kodwa andikaze ndikwazi ukuthabatha isigqibo ngayo. Ngokubanzi, i-octa yam ndiphatha imiboniso yeTV, kwaye ndivumelane ngayo kuphela xa ndandikwiinkwenkwezi "ezimenyiweyo" kothotho olunye - inkwenkwezi yendwendwe.
I-EFim Siphhrin yazalelwa kwilali yakwaSumaman kwingingqi yeMasadan. Ifoto: Uvimba woLondolozo lweQela loMculi.
- Apha, kulo nyaka uphelileyo yayinguluhlu nje "sklifosovsky" kunye nokuthatha inxaxheba kwakho.
-Ngaphambi koko - "iindlela", nangaphambi koko - "iqhawe lesizwe sethu". Kodwa, uyazithobela, ngokunyaniseka ndiyabona ukuba umgangatho wemiboniso yeTV iyakhula. Ngayiphi na imeko, kwicala lobuchwephesha babo. Kwaye akusekho kuso sindisa olu londolozo lwanaphakade: Kukho imali, kukho imiqondiso emikhulu ye-cinema ... kodwa ukanti, ungcezo lwethu luthatha ixesha elifutshane kangangokuba lusiya kulo.
-Yinkxwaleko yeNdwendwe, ngoku umenyiwe kakhulu kwijaji yemiboniso eyahlukeneyo yeTV. Inokuqaqamba kangakanani indima yejaji enjalo xa kufuneka uyivavanye rhoqo koogxa bakho?
-Ndizicacisela into yokuba ngandlel 'ithile izigwebo zoogxa bam. Umntu onjalo kufuneka abe kwi-jury. Andisokuze ndisombulule umntu ukuba athobe okanye athuke. Kuba ukuba ngumdlali weqonga, ndiyayiqonda indlela ekunzima ngayo ukuthatha inxaxheba kwiiprojekthi ezinjalo. Kwaye, ngokungathi kunjalo, ngaphakathi, uhlala ubambelele abo bazimisele ukulungela, okanye bahlale. Mhlawumbi ezi zimemo zidibene nenyaniso yokuba andisoze ndifike, ndibhengeze isigqibo sam. Kubonakala kum ukuba kuhlala kukho ukonwaba kwiiprojekthi zikamabonwakude. Kusekho umabonwakude, hayi ulingo okanye uvavanyo. Kwaye izinto zomboniso kufuneka zibekho - nokuba zibhengezo sesiphumo ...
-Iintshulube zakho "i-star i-star" yayingumdlalo weTV odumileyo "wesekethe ngeenkwenkwezi", apho wabonisa khona izinto abazixabisayo. Ngaba unezakhono ezifunyenwe kwiprojekthi?
"Ukuba ngoku ndicebe ukuphinda into, bendibuza ngeveki nje ukungena kwifom kwaye, mhlawumbi, iphindaphindwe phantse yonke into eboniswe ngo-2007. Nangona iminyaka esixhenxe idlulile. Yenza into enye ukuba ndikholelwe kuyo: Xa isikhumbuzo sikaNikulin sabhiyozela, ngokunyaniseka ndicinga ukuba andizukuphinda ndibuyele kwi-manet, nokuba i-timosle yeyakhe ilawula Kwisekethe ngombala, ndayeka ukuzithemba. Kwaye ndaphinda igumbi lomoya kakhulu. Njengayele joshe: "Ngaba uyayazi indlela yokudlala i-violin? Andazi, andizami. Ndinemvakalelo yokuba ndiza kulawula.
Ngoku i-EFim Shifrin ixakekile ngokukhawuleza kwiimveliso ezininzi zeqonga. Ifoto: Gennady Avramenoko.
-Umsebenzi wayo omkhulu, ungumsebenzisi osebenzayo weenethiwekhi zentlalo. Yonke imihla, amagqabantshintshi amatsha kwiincwadi ezinomdla kunye nemisebenzi avele kwiphepha lakho. Ulifumana phi ixesha lomsebenzi onjalo?
-Ndihlala ndibuzwa ngayo, kwaye ndinomdla kakhulu kubafundi bam kuhlala kusoloko kukungathembani: bayazi ukuba ndinentsebenzo ngokuhlwa, kwaye kusasa ndifika kulo mzi. Kwangelo xesha, nam ndiqeqesha ejimini. Umntu othile uvela ngokukhawuleza umbono "ogxekayo", okanye umntu undinceda. Kodwa kulula kakhulu ukuphendula lo mbuzo-ndilixesha lonke endleleni. Ebusuku - kuloliwe, ngexesha lasemini-kwindiza, kwaye ukuba eMoscow-ndihamba kwimoto yenkonzo, andiziqhubi. Kwaye ukulinda, andikaze ndichithe ixesha ukujonga amabala eluphahleni, andisahlukani ne-iPad kwaye, ndinguLwark, ndathabatha indawo yethutyana kunye nomkhwa owenzekileyo. Ndilala kancinci, ndanele. Ngokubanzi, andizange ndicinge ukuba ndingakuthanda ukufunda ngokusuka esweni, kwabonakala kum ukuba isuswe kum. Kodwa ngoku ifomathi ye-elektroniki yandibuyisela ekufundeni umoya. Ndikhuphe inani elikhulu leencwadi, kwaye ngaxeshanye ndinokufunda imisebenzi emininzi ngaxeshanye, ngaphandle kokulayisha indawo okanye ezandleni zakho. Ndifunda ngokulula kwincwadi kwenye, isibonelelo sazo zonke ezi zixhobo zenza ukuba iibhukumaka ziqondwe, ukukopa isicatshulwa. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba ndibuyisele ezo ziqwengana kwiincwadi endizinika iinethiwekhi zentlalo-le yenziwa ngokucinezela iqhosha elinye. Ngokusisiseko ndiye ndifunda kwaye ndikhangela imizekeliso. Ndihlala ndifuna ukwabelana ngezinto endizifundileyo. Kwaye xa bebuza: Kutheni le nto le nto inomdla kwimbali ye-high kaPighterar okanye imfundiso yendaleko - sisiphi esi simo sengqondo? Ndithi: "Ke ngenxa yokuba inomdla kangangokuba ayihambelani nomsebenzi. Kubonakala kum ukuba kukho amabala athile kwimfundo yam ukuba ubomi bwenza ukuba ikwazi ukuyilungisa. " Kwaye inyani entsha yenyani inika ithuba lokufunda nokufunda. Kwaye kubonakala kum ukuba ndiphumelele kwesinye isikolo esikwisekondari, okanye neZiko, kuba ndingumsebenzisi osebenzayo weenethiwekhi zentlalo.
-Exesha elifanayo, xa ubhala izikhundla zakho ngokwakho, phawuleka ngolwimi lwaseRussia olungenakuthelekiswa nanto ...
"Ndibhala kwakudala, ndade ndade ndazifumana iincwadi, kwaye ndifuna ukufunda ngokulula." Kodwa ke akusayi kubakho. Ndiyaqonda ukuba ukusukela kwibinzana, ndisoloko ndisazi ukuba ndingayigqiba, kwaye ndiyaqonda, kukuqonda oko kwaye ubuthathaka bam. Andisuki ngesininzi seenduli zam. Kodwa kubonakala ngathi kukho into malunga nolwazi endilikwazi ukwanelisa, aluhambelani ngamabinzana amancinci eeSMS. Kodwa apha ndihlala ndikhubeka kwaye ndide ndibandezeleke ngenxa yokuba isibane luLucavinka okanye isinyithi, ifihliwe, kwaye ngequbuliso iqalisa ukucinga ukuba ndingumntu onesifo Ngeli xesha ukusuka kwinkulungwane edlulileyo, okanye iqiniswe kuwo onke amaqhosha kaDidady. Kodwa yayihlala ibonakala icacile kum: ukuba ukuzonwabisa kwamagama afihlakeleyo kunye nokugculela phezu kwakhe ...
EFim Shifrin. Ifoto: Gennady Avramenoko.
- Abasebenzisi benethiwekhi yentlalo, uya kuba nguSkifrin. Ngubani onibizayo eli gama ebomini?
-Uye waqala wabiza utata ngoonobumba - kwaye noHimka, kunye noHimka ngogxininiso kwisilabhasi yokuqala kunye ne-fuck. Ndiqhelene namagama amabini akhoyo kwaye ndingakhange ndicinge ukuba ngokubhalisa phantsi kwegama lam lokundwendwela kwiinethiwekhi zentlalo, siya kuba nomnqamlezo onjalo eluntwini. Nangona kuchaziwe kakhulu: Ukuba abaphulaphuli bandisebenzisile indlela kwi-efima, bekunokwenzeka ukuba bacinge ukuba baya kuthatha isigqibo sokuba ndinganakho okanye nditshintshe igama lam, okanye into etshisiweyo ebantwini. Kwakuyimfuneko ukuba ngandlel 'ithile ndixela ngokusemthethweni ukuba bendihlala ndihlala naphantsi kwegama, nangaphantsi kwayo. Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, i-Anna enqabileyo iza nento yokuba yeyomntu inyusi yomntu. Ndiyazazi abaninzi uSasha, abangathandi xa babizwa ngokuba nguShurids. Kodwa ndiqhele ukususela ebuntwaneni ukuba mna noFima, kunye ne-eFim, kwaye fuck ngaxeshanye. Kwaye ebuntwaneni bendiva uphawu lokulingana phakathi kwalawo onke amagama. Kwaye kwinqanaba, kunjalo: Nje ukuba uxelelwe ngeli gama kwibhodi yebhodi, okanye kwiikhredithi, kwaye yaya. Kwaye awukhange uqaphele indlela iminyaka engama-30 ukuba ihamba intshabalalo yayingamdala, apho ubukhona ngalo lonke ixesha ne-EFim. Kodwa kwabonakala kum ukuba kwenye indawo kufanele ukuba ndibe phantsi kwegama ndabhalisa abazali bam. Ndizisa umzekelo: nonna Viktovna mordyukOva kumaxwebhu yayinguNovemba. Kodwa akukho mntu ungazange abize ngoNovemba - unna kunye nonna. Kwaye i-fuck, kwaye yayiyifucking, kwaye kukho i-fuck. Kwaye ngubani obiza? Ngoku baninzi ngoku.
-Endlela, abazali ababebizile, ixesha elide bafuna ukubona unyana wabo intandane. Kwaye ngoku ubhala. Kutheni bekubona kulo msebenzi?
- Ngokufanelekileyo, kwibhayiloji yam, abazali bam baziva ukuba umsebenzi womculi wawa kudidi olunzulu, abo banika umhlaba phantsi kweenyawo zabo. Kwakufuneka baphile. Utata wenkampini, umama, lowo weza kuye emva kwemfazwe. Ngendlela, khange bachaze ukhetho lwam. Akuzanga kungekho nto injalo, ukuba basukuma, bathi: "Ungaze." Nje phambi kokuba impumelelo yam kunye yokuqala ukuvela wam emoyeni, yaye sele kunye nabakhenkethi yam yokuqala Riga, ihlale uYobhi yathandabuza ukhetho yam, nangona babesazi ukususela ebuntwaneni ukuba ndandingafuni nantoni na ngaphandle koku.
-Umshiya kwangoko abazali, ngeminyaka eli-19. Kwakunzima ukuqalisa ubomi bokuzimelela eMoscow?
- Ewe, ayilixesha apho uGark waya ebantwini. Ndifike eMoscow kwiminyaka yaseSoviet, xa kwakungekho nto ithethwa ngayo malunga nexesha, kwakunzima ukunyamalala. Ukanti, uqhele ukuba umenzi-sicelo uvukile eMoscow, izihlobo ezikhutshelwanga kumasebe eminengo omthi womthi, owathi, ngexesha lokufunda, walifumana, wanikela uhlobo oluthile lokukhusela. Andiyonto bayiphoselwe kwilizwe elingaqhelekanga ukuba batye abanemthonyama, bendingqongwe ngabantu abathandanayo, kwaye nantoni na esiyithethayo ayiyi kupenda urhulumente, akazange akhethe ulawulo Ngomzabalazo ngaxeshanye-indlela angacinga ngayo? Andikhumbuli iindawo ezinjalo ukuze ndiphelelwe lithemba ukuze abantu bathobele ngokupheleleyo abantu ukuba awukhange urekhodwe kwangoko kubachasi. Ngapha koko, ndazalelwa ngexesha elifunwayo, apho imeko yengqondo ye-stalinist pore, yonke into ibibonakala ngathi iyi-sanatorium. Ngoku sikhumbula ikamva le-brodsky. Kodwa emva koko iindawo zokuhlala kunzima ukubiza i-cortica. Kuyihlazo nje ukuba imbongi elungileyo ke ndiqalise ubomi bam kwimibongo ekuvavanyeni indawo.
"Ndiyaqhubeka nokulwa noxinzelelo okanye uxinzelelo kunye neglasi okanye ndiwile ebomini, kwaye ndiyeza iyure kuphela ngemini ejimini." Ifoto: Indawo yogcino lwe-Efim Shifrin.
-Kwindawo yokuHlaliswa kweNkulumbuso ye-Sumaan kwingingqi yeMasadan ukhona?
-Angasekho, kodwa ngokobuninzi bekukho kabini apho. Ndixelela okuninzi ngayo, kuba bendiqinisekile - intetho yokuba akunakwenzeka ukuba ujoyine umlambo ofanayo kabini, awulunganga. Ndijoyine umlambo apho akukho nto ishiyekileyo. Engatshintshanga okwangoku. Iidolophana ezininzi eKolyma zidiliwe, inxenye yazo itshisiwe. Kodwa emva kweminyaka engama-25 kamva, ndandihlala ezilalini, endazibona izihlandlo ezininzi ephupheni, ndicaphukisa, ndothuka, ukuba amanzi aguqukele kuwo ...
- Leliphi inqanaba lakho lokwakha umzimba?
-Ndingayibizi imidlalo okanye i-boni, nangona iiklasi ezinomthwalo okhokelela kutshintsho kumzobo kwaye kuya kuba lula ukubiza eli gama laphesheya. Kodwa andikaze ndize ndizibekele iinjongo zam zokuzoba ukuthoba ukhuphiswano oluthile okanye ndiye kwi-goterans yolo midlalo. Ukusebenza kwam akusasebenzi ngaphaya kwama-Ateur, kodwa ndiyathanda ukuva iziphumo zezi zifundo. Ndiyathanda ukuba ndenze kwiminyaka yam yokwenza imithwalo endiza kundinika, ndinganxiba iimpahla ezifanayo ezibeka kwimidlalo kwiminyaka emihlanu eyadlulayo. Into endiqhubeka ngayo yokulwa noxinzelelo okanye uxinzelelo, hayi ngoncedo lweglasi okanye ihlalulele ebomini, kodwa iyeza kuphela iyure ngosuku ejimini.
- Sisiphi ubunzima?
Kudala ndizama ukungazami ukufumanisa ukuba loluphi uhlobo lobunzima obuphakathi, kwaye umsebenzi umsebenzi. Ngokubanzi, andiyi kwiirekhodi. Kodwa izolo nje ndinike imitha ngendlela yokuqala ukuya kwizihlandlo ezilishumi. Kuyinyani, kwindlela yesibini endandinele ukuphindaphinda.
-Uhlala nentanda-bulumko yentanda-bulumko, apho usenza khona ubulumko obubalulekileyo?
-Emalunga nobulumko-yayinguwe, andiziva ngobulumko. Ubomi nje nje obundixhobileyo ngolwazi oluthile. Ndiyaqonda ukuba kobu bomi unokuqiniseka kuphela kwinto oyenzileyo. Kwaye andifani kakhulu kwabo bathathwa njengethamsanqa. Ndiyazi ukuba ithamsanqa laguqukela kum kuphela xa ndandisebenza kakhulu ngaphambili. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba le kuphela kwentanda-bulumko yemihla ngemihla.