I-Alexandra Konstantinova, umboniseli odumileyo we-meloders "Verney Ubomi bam", "ngelixa intliziyo ibetha" kunye ne-IP Pirogov "Siqhelekile, sinomtsalane, ngamanye amaxesha ngelishwa, ngamanye amaxesha ngelishwa, ngamanye amaxesha ngelishwa. Kwaye ebomini bakhe, waza wahluka. Indoda ethandekayo yosapho, iminyaka elishumi elinesine eyatshatileyo, ukukhulisa amawele eminyaka emithandathu kunye ne-olivia kunye ne-theton phantse i-vanton eneminyaka emibini. Kwangelo xesha, ukuziqhelanisa nokucamngca kwaye ukholelwa ukuba umntu wedwa kwindalo. Iinkcukacha-kudliwanondlebe nephepha lephephabhuku "moya".
-UAlexander, kutheni uye kwiZiko leThengiso?
-Akungekho ithuba elikhethekileyo lokukhetha. Ngelo xesha, utata wam wayeyintloko yodaka. Kwakufuneka atshintshe umsebenzi kunye nokuphumelela kwisikolo sobugcisa se-SEMPOPOPOP. Kwaye ngokungathi ingaba indazeke kum ebiyekile. IZiko leMifanekiso ye-SEMPOPORL le-SEMPOORORL alikhokeleli nayiphi na indlela, kuba kwakungekho zihlobo okanye abantu abaziqhelileyo besebenza kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga okanye i-binema. Umsebenzi ongumSebenzi wabonakala kum une-Denalic kwaye ngokubanzi inqaba engenanto.
- Kwaye kamva, ukucinga ukuba ngumculi kweza engqondweni yakho?
-Unkosi kumthe ofunda naye kwi-natasha bostonova. (Uncumo.) Bendisoyika kakhulu loo ndawo, ndandihlala ndithembekile, kunqabile ukuba ndithethe. Kwangelo xesha, kamsinya nje emva kokuba ndivele ndaba yile mifanekiso ithiyetha yethiyetha yesikolo okanye iqela lomculo, esiphangiwe nabahlobo, uloyiko lwanyamalala. Kwava i-natasha. "Mamela, kufuneka ube ngumculi!". Ndamangaliswa yile nto: "Ngombono ka?" Uphendule wathi: "Kwinyani yokoqobo, faka iholo yemidlalo yeqonga." Kodwa oku kuphele kwinqanaba lencoko, naseMoscow, bendinalo lonke ixesha lonke ixesha ndinalo malunga neSikolo seSchukinsky Theist, kwaye ndingenguye wesikolo, umzekelo.
- Yonke loo nto iqalile kunye nawe ngokubonisa "indlala", apho amagorha athatyathwa eBerlin ngaphandle kwemali, kwaye kwafuneka bafumane ukutya kwabo. Kunzima, kodwa, ngoluvo lwam, kungcono kuneSiqithi seNtlango kukho i-bugs ...
- Ndiyavuma. (Ukuhleka.) Kodwa yayisoyikisa kakhulu, yayiluhambo lwam lokuqala lwaye kwelinye ilizwe kunye ne-adventure emangalisayo. Yayingu-2003, umabonwakude waqalisa iiprojekthi ezintsha, kwaye ndandisebenza njengomgcini webhendi kwiiklabhu ezimbini. Kodwa le mvakalelo yokuba ndingathanda ukuba ngumdlali weqonga, ndandigcina ndincokola nomntu endifunda naye. Emva kokuba umkhosi akakwazi ukuya kufunda, kuba kwakungekho mali, emva koko kwabona intengiso yeprojekthi, apho amabhaso aphambili yayingumvuzo wobomi bonke kwiidola eziliwaka. Lo mzalwana wathi abantu abaqhelekileyo abathathi phaya, bendinomsindo, ndixakane naye kwaye ndafowunela kwifowuni echaziweyo. Kwaye yayingumnwe wekamva. Khange ndicinge ngomsebenzi obambeleyo, kwabonakala kum ukuba ndiza kundibonisa ngequbuliso kwaye ndihlale kumabonwakude. Kwaye okona kubaluleke kakhulu, kuya kuba nakho ukuya kwenye indawo. Iinyanga ezintathu ziphosakele, abantu abalishumi bambalwa bambalwa. Bathabatha abantu abalishumi elinambini kwaye basibhozo.
"Andinawo uthando lwezinto zasekhaya. Andicingi, umzekelo, ukuba bendinesidlo sakusasa. Ndilala phantsi, ngaphandle komatrasi. Oku kuxhomekeke kuwe"
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-Uyikamva emva koko, uye wafika kule projekthi?
-Usekhona! Ngoku sele ndilula ukuya ebomini, rhoqo ndicinga ukuba konke sele bephila. Ke ngoko, xa ndaba ngabaphumeleleyo kule projekthi, ngokungathi bekungamangalisi kangako. Kwakuyimvakalelo yokuba kufanele kwenzeke. Ngokubanzi, kwenzeka okuninzi okumangalisayo ebomini bam. Kanye kudliwanondlebe, kwanangaphambi kokuzalwa kwabantwana, ndatsho ukuba kuya kuba kuhle ukuba amathathu, kwaye amawele apholileyo. Kwaye ngaphambili, kwasebuncinaneni bakhe, ndayalela ukuba nditshata eTatar.
- Kwaye kumboniso udibene nenkosikazi yakho yexesha elizayo uKarina. Kodwa kwenzeka njani ukuba iphume, ukufumana umntu, uze umyeke ahambe, kwaye wakwazi ukutshata?
-Andiqonda ukuba unganjani. Kwiprojekthi ebethe inomfana, kwaye banolwalamano olunzulu. Ke emva koko weza kuthi eBerlin kwaye wamenza umnikelo. Uye wavuma kwaye, eshiya umboniso, watshata kwiiveki ezintathu. Yitsho ukuba ndicaphukile, musa ukuba.
-Ngaba, awuzange uqale ngoonobumba, iifowuni?
-Ngaba. Besikhuselwe eSoviet Union-ayizange isebenze, oko kuthetha ukuba, hayi yeyakho, sukuchukumisa. Kwaye ndacinga ukuba, mhlawumbi, andikufanelekeli isipho esinjalo, umfazi onjalo. (Uncumo.) Kumhla wokugqibela womdlalo "Indlala" ufike okokugqibela ukuba nenkosikazi yakhe. Kwakungekho buhlobo phakathi kwethu, sithetha nje, kwaye ndandinengxaki kakhulu naye, njenaye nabani na. Ndicinga ukuba sathandana. Kwaye emva koko waqonda ukuba ndingubambiso bakhe (uncumo), kwaye ufuna ukuhlala eMoscow nam.
- kodwa kungengenxa yeMoscow?
- Hayi, hayi, iKarinka yayinomyeni otyebileyo, imoto, indlu, ukuhamba. Ushiye yonke into. Ndabuya ndahlala gwenxa, ndathatha igumbi lokumkanikazi. Wayehamba nam kuloliwe, sikhutshiwe phantsi kweqonga, ukuze singabhatali itikiti xa i-nuers eqongeni lavela. Kwakumnandi, umdla kwaye akukho lula ... weza kwi-golide kum, kumfana olula. (Uncumo.) Zonke izalamane nabahlobo bakhe bajijisana etempileni.
- Kodwa usapho lwakho lusekrelekrele ...
"Utata wam ngumqhubi wemikhosi kumsebenzi wokuqala, ukusuka kwinqwelo moya esuka kwaselwandle. Uphumelele kwisikolo saseChelyabinsk South Avigarov, igosa elinemfundo yasemkhosini ephezulu. I-friclity ye-friet kwimathematics kunye ne-fiziks. Ngoku iicomputer ziyahamba, kwaye yonke into kufuneka ilungelelaniswe, ukuba iqonde kwimizobo. Kwaye umama uyinkokeli yomculo, esikolweni esebenza kwi-Kindergarten, kwaye ngoku iyaqhubeka nokwenza nabantwana. Usebenza kakhulu, enkqonkqozwa kwikwayara, uyathanda ukuhamba. Ngendlela, ndibulela umama, ndaphumelela kwisikolo somculo, eyona nto iyonwaba kakhulu!
"UKarina wayenendoda etyebileyo, igumbi, imoto. Ndathi emva koko ndahlala ezindlwini zokumkanikazi. Uvela kwiseli yegolide kum, umntu olula"
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- Phambi komkhosi, ngaba ufundele kwimpahla yorhwebo, unjani utata wakho njani, kwaye kwakungekho ngcinga malunga nomsebenzi womqhubi wenqwelomoya?
-Ngaba. Ndiyibonile ebuntwaneni kwezi moya, uthando lwam alubonwanga, yonke into yaba yinto eqhelekileyo. Utata wafumana kuphela phambi komphathi, wabhabha kwinani elifunekayo leeyure zokwenzakalisa impilo, ukufumana i-puck yemiphunga kwioksijini, emva koko babelana ngokomkhosi. Ndinemfundo yesibini kwaye yaba yintloko yesikhuselo.
-Unomkhosi osemva kwamagxa akho. Ngaba uzisole ngento onokuyisebenzela?
-Andingazami nokulala, andizange ndoyike, kuba bonke abafana endifunde nabo, benxibelelana neyadi, bedlula emkhosini, baxela amabali amaninzi. Azange ndizisole ngento ayikhonze ngayo. Oku kukhenketho oluhle kakhulu kunye nokukhuselwa. Nawaphi na amava omdlali weqonga yibhanki yakhe yehagu.
-Umkhosi wakutshintsha kwinto ethile?
-Ndikholelwa ukuba yonke into ifakwe kwimfuza, kuxhomekeke kuphela kwindlela onokuyilahla ngayo. Kubonakala kum ukuba umkhosi uyakujonga, yomeleza into, kodwa ayitshintshi kakhulu. Emkhosini, awuthathwa nje kuphela kwezalamane nabahlobo, akukho zihlobo konke konke, ezijikeleze abanye abantu, kwaye zininzi kakhulu, unokuthelekiswa nokuvutha kwe-adrenaline. Uziva uziva unesithukuthezi. Ixesha lokuqala ndafumana le mvakalelo xa abazali bam besishiya nomntakwabo eSimkiropol, ndandineminyaka elishumi elinesithandathu ubudala, ishumi elinesixhenxe. Utata waya emsebenzini e-Ural, emva koko wayefuna uncedo kumama, kwaye bathabatha udade, umncinci unyaka. Akukho nto imbiyo kule, kwiminyaka nje elishumi elinesithandathu ndabona ukuba ngezenzo zam kunye nezenzo zamphendula ngokupheleleyo. Ndiye ndakhula kwangoko. Mhlawumbi, ke, ndihamba ndiye emkhosini ongena ngaphakathi ukuba unokutshiwo ...
- Ngoku usapho lwakho yikarina enabantwana okanye abazali, umntakwabo nodade?
Ewe kunjalo, namhlanje usapho lwam ngumfazi nabantwana. Abazali bahlala eSevastopol. UMzalwan 'phesheya ubukhulu becala, iminyaka emihlanu emihlanu - kunye nosapho lwakhe eMalaysia, ngaphambi koko - eSwitzerland. Usebenza kwizakhiwo ze-Russian Federation yiShafpovar. Ilungisa kakhulu kwaye ithande le nto. Kwaye lo dade ubandakanyeke kusapho nakwizolimo eYekaternburg. Ndinceda umama, nodadewethu. Lo dade thanda izilwanyana ukususela ebuntwaneni, kodwa ngelishwa, bekungeyomfuneko kubagqirha bezilwanyana, kwathethwa nako kule. Ngoku unexhama, awaphuma ngayo, kunye neenkukhu ezininzi, iibhokhwe, iihagu - zoo.
-Umbono welolo ulilolo ukhe wafunda ukuba linye nakubantu?
-Ndifundile, kubonakala kum. Kwaye ndiyayithanda le meko. Ewe kunjalo, ndinikela ingqalelo kwintsapho yam kwaye ndifudumele, kodwa ndiyaqonda ukuba sonke silodwa: yiza kwaye sihambele okufanayo kweli lizwe, kwaye siphendule izenzo zakho kuphela. Kwaye akulunganga, andinalusizi. Xa ukhula, uyaqonda ukuba kupholile, akufuneki uhlale umntu okanye into.
"Mna nenkosikazi yam sahlala ixesha elide, sazakha umsebenzi, ndahamba. Kwaye ngequbuliso kwiminyaka engamashumi amathathu bendiyoyika ukuba ndingabi nabantwana"
Ifoto: I-Yana Kozibarod
-Ukhe wafuna abantwana xa uqala ukuhlala neKarina?
-Siphila kakhulu ixesha elide. Bakha umsebenzi, bahamba, kwaye ngequbuliso, ngequbuliso bekwiminyaka engamashumi amathathu ndayoyika ukuba ndingabi nabantwana. Ezi ngcinga aziyiyo imvakalelo yokukhathazeka. Amawele ethu xa ndandineminyaka engamashumi amathathu anesibini ubudala.
-Khumbula ntoni xa uKarina wathi wayelinde umntwana?
- Ngokuqinisekileyo! Kwakukho ulonwabo, kwaye isadivo iphinde iphinde yoyike (ihleke), yajongana nangoko uxanduva. Kwaye xa ezinye iiveki kamva zafumanisa ukuba sinamawele, kwaphela ngakumbi. Ndilinde ixesha elide, kwaye apha ezimbini. (Uncumo.)
- Kodwa ke, iKarina, mhlawumbi, yavuya, yiphi "mpu"?
-Uye ke wacinga. (Uncumo.) Kodwa bendingalunganga. Sasinebali elimangalisayo. Ngenye imini, umphathi-thamsanqa wethamsanqa waya eKarini kwaye waxela ukuba intombi yakhe iya kuzalwa kungekudala, kwaye i-bolt enye, njengabantwana abaphezulu. Kwiminyaka emibini kunye neenyanga ezimbini sasinayo i-dan. Akanayo iminyaka emibini ubudala, kwaye sele encokola. Eli nenekazi lathetha izinto ezininzi, kwaye wonke umntu wazaliseka.
- Kulungile, ngoku sele uyonwabile?
-Ndilumkisiwe (ndiyancuma.), Kuba sinomsebenzi ongalindelekanga. Nangoku andimanyisi ngaphandle kweesampuli, ndiza kuhamba ixesha elide, ukulahla. Ngo-Matshi, wayenenkani eKiev, emva koko akazange asebenze naphi na iinyanga ezintathu, kwaye emva koko de kube sekupheleni kwehlobo, ixesha lesibini "lalifihliwe. Ke ngaphandle kwesiqinisekiso.
- Kwaye awukasebenzi kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga, kuthetha ukuba akukho sigxina, nokuba ayikufumana mali kakhulu ...
-Ewe, ndayishiya imidlalo yeqonga elinguVehtangov, kuba andizange ndidibane nezimvo ze-rimas tuminas, zingenamsebenzi, kodwa endaweni yoko, mntu. Akazange achaze nantoni na, kodwa akazange akhe izicwangciso zam. Kwaye ndikwelo meko ye-Odnolyba, ndakhuliswa yinkosi yam vladimir vladimirovich ivanov ivanov. Ngokubanzi, ngelixa imidlalo yethiyetha ayisebenzi. Kodwa kuya kufuneka uzive ungekamva, ungabi, ufuna, ifanele ibe lula.
"Yabona intengiso apho intlawulo ephambili yayingumvuzo wobomi kwiidola eziliwaka. Umzalwana wathi abantu abaqhelekileyo abathabathanga apho, kodwa ndabiza"
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- Kwaye, okwangoku, kuloo nyanga zintandathu, xa uhlala ngaphandle komsebenzi, ulixhalabisa ngolindelo lwefowuni?
-Yiqinisekile. Kubonakala kum ukuba bonke abadlali banayo. Kuvela uloyiko, kodwa okwangoku andifuni ukoyike, zizole. Kwiimeko ezigqithisileyo, ndiza kufumana indlela yokwenza imali ukondla usapho. Ndisebenze kunye nonogada, kunye nomthwalo. Ndazalelwa eCrimea, bendinobuntu baseUkraini, ngo-2001 ndaya kubazali bam ukuze ndifumane isiRashiya. Kwakuyimfuneko ukulinda iinyanga ezintandathu. Ndifuna ukumbulisa umthengisi, kodwa ndaliwe, ndibhekisa ekungabikho kwamava. Ndibuze ukuba lithini ithuba awalivayo ukuba ufuna umthwalo. Ndivumile, ndiyaqonda ukuba yonke into efanayo nommi wase-Ukraine awuyi kuthatha naphi na, ukuba akunjalo kuphela ukuya kwiibhendi. (Uhleka.) Usebenze isiqingatha sonyaka ngumthwalo, kwabakho iqela labasetyhini elinebhinqa esitolo, amantombazana apholileyo.
-Ukubangelwa kukuba ipelisi yakho ayithinteli unxibelelwano kwiseti?
"Hayi, ndifumana ulwimi oluqhelekileyo nabo bonke abantu abakwisiza." AMALUNGELO, i-ADSUPERS, sonke sizenze into enye, kwaye ndiyavuya ukunxibelelana nomntu wonke, ngaphandle kokuzibeka kwisikhundla esifanelekileyo, bathi, ndingumlingisi apha, oko kuthetha ukuba eyona iphambili. Ungaze ubuze umncedisi ukuba eze nokutya, athambekele naye wonke umntu.
-Ungafuni malunga nomkhweli?
- Hayi, andifuni kwanto. Kubalulekile kum ukuba abantu babenokwenzeka ngendlela elungileyo baphumle emsebenzini, baphumle emsebenzini, eyona nto iphambili ayiyiyo mna, kodwa yimovie esiyenzayo.
-Kutshiwo kunokwenzeka, emva kokutshintsha, yiza egumbini elinezinto eziqhelekileyo: Amanzi ashushu, i-proof eqhelekileyo, ibhedi elungileyo ...
Yonke le nto ayibalulekanga, kodwa ndilala phantsi, ngaphandle kwengoma, kwibhedi yebhedi. Oku kukhula ngokwakho. Kutshanje edibene neKrishnaitis enye, kwaye kudala sixoxe ukuba ukuba uziva uxinzelelo, ukuphoxeka, ukungonwabi, kuthetha ukuba sele uphuhlise umkhwa wezibonelelo. Ufike ehotele, akukho nto, kwaye uqalisa ukufumana ingqumbo. Ngumgibe. Ngapha koko, ukulala, musa ukukufuna ibhedi.
- Ke abantwana kufuneka bavunywe ukuba balale phantsi?
I-Klim ilala nam, bendizifuna ngokwam, uyithandile. I-womnquma ikwalele.
-Ungasusa ukutya kwabo okumnandi okanye umda wokuphakamisa intando ...
-Ndizibekela umda. Abantwana nenkosikazi banyanzelisa nto, obu bomi babo, ngokuchaseneyo, budala zonke iimeko ukuba zilunge. Kwaye andinalo uthando lwezinto zasekhaya. Andicingi ukuba wayenesidlo sakusasa, umzekelo. Kwaye ubomi buhlala buyilungele kakhulu loo nto kamsinya nje emva kokuba ndiqhele into, wandibonisa ukuba oko akuyi kuba nangxaki. Umzekelo, emkhosini uhlala ejamelene nemvakalelo yendlala, kwaye isebenza njengomzuzu wokufundisa. Xa inkampani ihamba, iqela livakala: "Rota, fumana isidlo sakusasa (isidlo sangokuhlwa okanye isidlo sangokuhlwa)!" Kwaye kwangoko uhlala ekhonzwa ngulo olutsha: "ukutya ukutya ukuze ugqibe!". Le yimfundiso, imfundo, ukuze kwindawo yomkhosi awuzange ube nomkhwa wokutya ukuze unxibelelane nayo kanye kanye. Kukho ukutya-kwakunetyhefu, hayi- akukho nto imbi. Umsebenzi wakho kukulwa, ukukhusela ilizwe lakho. Kwaye kum, eli cala lobomi alibalulekanga kwaphela. Nangona uKarina uyalungisa kwaye uyayithanda. Zonke iintlobo ze-chak-chicks kunye nezinye izinto zetatar, ndiyavuma, ndimthanda kakhulu. Kwaye umamazala wam uqhubela phambili ilungiselela i-kysy. Kodwa andizukubandezeleka ukuba le nto ayinjalo.
-Ukhe ucinge kwaye uziphathe emva kokuba udibene neKrishna?
- Hayi hayi. Ndandihlala ndiziqhelanisa nezinye izinto endizenzileyo, umzekelo, ukucamngca kweOsho.
- Lwaphi lonke olo lwazi kunye nomdla onjalo?
-Ke basuke njengabalwazi: kwiincwadi, ividiyo okanye iirekhodi ezirekhodiweyo, ezinye iinkqubo kunye neentlanganiso ezingenamkhethe. Ngo-2011, ndaya e-Indiya ukuya eIndiya, ngoko sasingenabantwana, sadibana nabantu abaninzi abanomdla. Uhambe i-vipasasana yeshumi le-vassasana. Oku kuthula kwaye ucamngce.
Ngaba oku akuhambelani nokubamba? Lo ngumsebenzi weemvakalelo. Nangona malunga nokunikwa ingqalelo kunye nokugxininisa kunye ne-stanislavsky ethethe ...
- Yiyo loo nto, kuphela kwi-plus vale. Ukulawulwa kweemvakalelo zabo, amandla okubona ukuzalwa kweemvakalelo, iingcinga, iimvakalelo.
-Ndingalindelanga ukuba nawe. Imangalisiwe kakhulu ...
-Umntu wonke singene ngeendlela ezahlukeneyo. Kwenzeka, andikwazi ukugxila kwaye ndikhangele ingcinga, kwaye ngamanye amaxesha kunokwenzeka ihla, kwaye ngequbuliso nditsho izinto ezilungileyo. (Uncumo.) Ngokubanzi, eyona nto ibalulekileyo kukunyaniseka ngokwakho, nokuba ayinakukrolwa kuwe.
"Kwakungekho luhlobo phakathi kwethu, siye sanxibelelana nje. Ndandinaye lula kakhulu, njengaye nabani na. Ndicinga njalo thina sathandana"
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-Ukusoloko kuthi umntu jongiwe kwiimeko ezigqithisileyo. Kodwa hayi yonke imihla bavela.
- Ubomi bemihla ngemihla asibalulekanga kangako kuvavanyo lomntu. Imeko encomekayo yenzeka xa ufuna le ncwadi, kodwa ngokubanzi akuyomfuneko ukuze ujonge imfazwe. Kukho oqeqesho oluqhelekileyo, umzekelo, emi ikhuphe izandla zemizuzu elishumi. Akukho nto inzima, kodwa imisipha yemisipha iqala. Sibambelela kwintlungu, kwaye hayi ukuba kunokwenzeka. Uyacinga ngoko nangoko: "Hayi, yonke into, andiyi, andiyi kuba", kodwa kufuneka uzame ukuguqukela kwenye imisipha. Ukucamngca ngaloo nto kudalwe ukuba bakwazi ukuzitshintsha, ukuphinda ukwakha iimvakalelo zabo, iMbali yeHlabathi.
-Uye wathi awudingi ukuba uhlukane neengcango ezivaliweyo. Ke uyakholelwa ukuba zonke iintlanganiso azinamsebenzi?
-Ngoko ngokupheleleyo. Ndiye apha, andicwangciswanga kudliwanondlebe (ndincuma), andibathandi nyani, kuba bahlala bedlula ngokwemibuzo emiselweyo, malunga neqhawe. Andiqondi ukuba uza kuphendula kanjani, ngenxa yokuba iqhawe lalivela kuye, ukusuka kwimeko, ukusuka kumava anamava. Ifana nomntu oqhawukileyo. I-cinema-ibali elidibeneyo, kwaye umculi uza kuthatha okomzuzwana abenzele umlinganiso.
-Khetha kakhulu malunga nexesha elifanelekileyo. Kwaye kutheni abantwana bakho benamagama anjalo? Kum, i-olivia inguShakespeare "ubusuku balide". Oko kukuthi, uhamba kwiisangqa ezinjalo, ucinga ukuba uza kubiza njani?
-Ndiziva. Uluhlu onke amagama angenayo. Kwaye bafumana abo basabelayo. Malunga nabahlobo baseOlivia bathi: "Musa. Uza kuhlala njani? Iya kubizwa ngokuba yiKindergarten "okanye" Eli ligama elingelilo lesiRussia "nakwintanda" ukuba loo nto, iOya iya kubiza. " Kwakuyiminyaka emihlanu eyadlulayo, kwaye ngoku ixesha litshintshile, sele i-chloe, kwaye iTiffany yangena ezitratweni. Ndiyenza yonke into ithile. (Uncumo.)