Ngexesha elinye, uLena Bat babutshintsha ngenkalipho umsebenzi wakhe kwi-gabprom ukuya kuthi ga ngoku, kwaye ngamanye amaxesha kuyingozi. Umvavanyi weTV ovela kwi-TV enxulumene phantse ngohlobo oluthile lwee-superperoines, ezazisa i-dolrtov enganyanisekanga kumanzi acocekileyo. Nangona kunjalo, umsebenzi othandwa nguLena wayekuthanda kakhulu, exabisa impilo yakhe kunye nethambo. Namhlanje, uyavuma ukuba ukubonakala kukaJury Anaasheinkv ebomini bakhe ebomini bakhe, owathi kamva waba ngumyeni wakhe, wamnceda ukuba angaphuli kwaye afumane iMivisisi oyifunayo. Iinkcukacha-kudliwanondlebe nephepha lephephabhuku "moya".
-Lena, ucinga ntoni ngethamsanqa lakho elikhulu?
- LONTO LONTO. Kumsebenzi onokuphumelela ngenxa yokunyamezela kwabo, umsebenzi. Kwaye kukho izinto onokuthi ungachaphazeli kuzo. Ukuphuthile nje kwabo kwaye kuqalise iminqweno yakho kwindalo iphela. Ndandim kuphela umntwana kwaye bendihlala ndiphupha usapho olukhulu. Bendinethamsanqa kakhulu nomyeni wam, sinobudlelwane obugqwesileyo. Kwaye ngezo ntsuku xa sisiya kusapho lonke, ndonwabile nje. Ithamsanqa kukuba awukwazi ukulawula.
-Uye wathi kuphela xa wayeneminyaka engamashumi amathathu anesihlanu, waqala wacinga ukuba umntu uza kuba khona.
-Ndiza kucacisa ukuba kutheni ngentsimbi emashumi mathathu. Ukuba ibise-Ostantonkino, ndaye ndaye ndadibana "nendoda elungileyo," ngendingakwazi ukusebenza ngenzondelelo, kwaye mhlawumbi ngekhe ndiphule uLeno, ilizwe lonke elaziyo namhlanje. Ndiyakrokrela ukuba bathathwa njengomsebenzi, kodwa akunjalo. Indalo nje ayizange indinike umntu, kwaye onke amandla am ayejolise emsebenzini.
-Kwenzeka ubudlelwane obukhulu konke konke?
- Hayi, ndaba nomtshato emibini. Kumanyano lokuqala, indoda yandenza isithembiso, nangaphezulu kwesinye. Kodwa ngelo xesha ndaziva ngathi andikakulungelanga umtshato konke konke. Andiyontombazana iphupha lomtshato kunye nesinxibo esimhlophe esimhlophe, ndandiyinkokeli yamakhwenkwe. . Amakhwenkwe am afunda! " (Uncumo.) Ndiyenzile izindululo ezifanelwe yindawo eyamkelekileyo ngokubanzi - ikhuselwe, impumelelo. Kodwa kum ukuba ibalulekile kubushushu bomntu, uthando. Ndingumntu othandanayo kwaye ndiyavuya ukuba umyeni wam uyafana. Andazi ukuba ubudlelwane buza kuqhubeka njani bukhula njani, kodwa ndonwabile ukuba kukho uthando ebomini bam, esi sipho sikude nakubo bonke abantu. Ngaphambili, andizange ndive ukuqaqadeka, unxibelelwano lwengqondo, njengo-Yura. Kwaye andizange ndiyiqonde ukuba ungatshata njani ngaphandle kothando okanye "uzale njani." Entlokweni yam, yonke into ilungiswe nje: Ukuba umntu onjalo akazange adibane, naye endifuna ukudala usapho, ke akukho mfuneko. Sukufuna impikiswano yangaphakathi.
Kuyahlekisa, nangona ndigqalwa njengomntu otyhafisayo, andiyithandi ixabe. Andikhululekanga xa ndivele-andizukuthetha iintshaba, abanesine. Igama elithi "i-pip" alikho ngam kwaphela. Thatha i-quarrel nge-nestasterm ye-mastasy sanursk. Asizange sixabane, andimazi yena, kuphela njengoko ndilandelelana kwam kwi -udiolo. Kodwa wathumela ividiyo yokuthuka kwidilesi yam. Ndicinga ukuba yayingengomnqweno wayo, kodwa umnqweno wokukhokelwa kwe-TV yomjelo weTV "ngoLwesihlanu" ukuba undikhuphe kancinci. Khange ndiphendule, kuba ndicinga ukuba umntu oqhelekileyo awuyi kufana nokuphawula. Kodwa kwakhona: Ndizama ukuphepha isibetho, kwaye isibetho sindifumana. Mhlawumbi inkqubela yam ibangela imvakalelo yomona. Ndiyawahlonipha abantu abaphumeza into yomsebenzi, yenza into ebalulekileyo, nto leyo mayibe nento endinjengam.
-U-Yuri ebomini bakho ngexesha elinzima lavela ...
- UJura undisindisile. Kubonakala kum ukuba kukho umntu omthumileyo apha ngasentla xa ndisanda. Akukho namnye njengoko usapho lwam bengazi ukuba kwenzeka ntoni kum. Zonke ezi dliwanondlebe zingapheliyo, i-HIP, ezazikwiindaba kuphela. Izibhengezo ngomfanekiso wam oxhonywe kwi-moscow, kodwa andizange ndiqaphele nto, kwakunjengehashe e-shorakh: iKazan, ukhozi, i-tupe, ipipe, i-tupe, ipipesk. U-Yura wabona ukungcola kwam, ndawa ngobuso, ndisenazo iilokhwe ezisele. Kodwa ndaphulukana nonxibelelwano nenyani, konke oku ndatshoyo: Kuya kufuneka uthululo lube nexesha elitsha. Ugqirha ufunyaniswe: Ukukhupha ngokwasemzimbeni kunye nokuziphatha. Akunakwenzeka ukusebenza, akunakwenzeka ukuba ubhabhe, uyachukumisa! Ndandinesivumelwano endisigcinile, kodwa uYuri wathi: Andikhathali, siya kuncothula, kwaye ndahamba nam eBali. Iveki yonke, ndibeka nje kwigumbi lehotele, andiyo ndawo, ibuyise amandla. Eyona nto imbi kakhulu-ndicinga ukuba ndiphantsi kokhuseleko lwe-TV "ngoLwesihlanu", nangaphantsi kokhuseleko kwaye ndingazange.
- Ngaba zezoyikiso zokwenyani kwidilesi yakho?
- Ewe. Kwakukho izigameko ezininzi xa babehlaselwa kwiqela lethu lokudubula, kwaye ndikhuselekile kuphela ngexesha lam lokugqibela. Ngaphambi kokuba loo msebenzi uqeshiweyo, onokubaleka ngokulula kwimeko yengozi. Njengokuba, umzekelo, xa sikwindawo yokutyela, apho sasiqhuba isheke, inkampani yangwa. Abalindi bam baphukile kwangoko, kwaye sasindiswa ngabathengi abaziimfihlo. Ndaya kubo ndacela yonke into eyenzekayo yokudubula kwividiyo. Ngokunyaniseka, ndicinge ukuba siza kuthathwa kule ndawo yokutyela kwiingxowa zeplastiki. Ndabiza iYura, ndakhala, ndiyazi ukuba andazi ukuba ndenze ntoni, kuba ipoliyo yeyamntu, ngubani owonileyo ', kunye nehotele apho ndayeka khona. Kwakungoxinzelelo olunje, ndandinezinwele ezinesiqingatha emva koko ndawela ngaphandle, andinakukwazi nokuqokelela iDulet yam edumileyo.
"Kwaye ndafunda ukuba uJura wayekhe wasebenzisana 'ne -udioralo", wayene-arhente yakhe yokhuseleko.
-Ngoko, sadibana kwisiseko seSisa seSisa. Akazange asebenzisene ne-verizorro. Kodwa xa saqala ukudibana ngokusemthethweni, kwaye i-TV Chaneli ayizange indinike unogada, ndacela ukuba ancede. Ndiyoyika nyani ukuba ndiye emotweni yam, ndacinga, ngequbuliso wayengena emoyeni. Kwaye uYura wanika abantu bakhe ukuba andikhusele. Undincedile basinda xa ndizisa ixesha lokugqibela lenkqubo. Xa ndandisongelwa kwaye ndibambi, nabameli bamandla, ndaziva ndizikhusela.
-ULena Bat Bat bafumana indoda eyomeleleyo.
-Kukho ulonwabo ngendlela eyahlukileyo. Malunga nabafazi abanjengam, uze uthi. Ndifike eMoscow ngaphandle konxibelelwano, ndisuse indlu, ndasebenza, izamile. Kwaye ecaleni kwam akunakuba yindoda ebuthathaka, bendiya kumcinezela. Ngaphandle kwento yokuba sinentsebenziswano ne-Yura, kum indoda kwintsapho iyafana - kanye njengokuba utata wayesento ephambili. I-Yura indinika iingcebiso ezininzi eziluncedo, kweminye imibuzo unobuchule kwaye endeza mna. Undinceda njengegqwetha njengegqwetha.
- Ube nomsantsa phakathi kweeprojekthi, kwakungekho silingo ngokubanzi ukuvala isihloko seTV, sonwabe?
Ewe, umyeni wam wayeyiphupha. Kodwa andinguye umntu oza kuhlala ekhaya. Ndiyakuthanda ukwenza uqoqosho, ukupheka, kodwa kwiimpelaveki ezinqabileyo. Xa kuvela iprojekthi enomdla, amehlo am akhanya, andikwazi kudla, musa ukusela, ungalali. Umyeni ohlwayelela ukuba uza kundisusa kwiqela labasebenzi abangaziwayo. (Zihleka.) Bathi: "Fumana ityala, akufuneki usebenze usuku olunye." Kodwa akukho mntu ulumkisa ukuba kule meko awuyi kuba nempelaveki. Ngoku sikunye nomyeni wakho oya kubamisela kwimizobo yam. Kwakukho ikhefu phakathi kwendlela ndigqibileyo ukwenza iNkqubo yokuHamba yeFucking kwijelo lokuqala kwaye ndaqala ukuxoxa malunga ne-STS. Kungabonakala kumntu endiwileyo kwindawo yendaba, kodwa ebomini baqhubeka. Ndisuse umboniso wam "ukubeka esweni ukubekwa kweliso" kwi-Intanethi kwaye kwazisa le projekthi kwinqanaba elifanelekileyo. Ngoku iphuma kwi-TV Channel "Che!". Ndandinomdlalo kwitshaneli ye-CTC, le nkqubo ibizwa ngokuba "ngookhokho babantwana". Olu luhlobo losapho apho izizukulwana zikhuphisana khona. Kwelinye iqela - abantwana, kwelinye - abazali babo okanye ezinye izalamane ezisondeleyo. Kukohuphiswano ngalunye, abantu abadala baphendula imibuzo eneqhinga malunga nenkulungwane ye-XXI, kwaye abantwana-malunga nenkulungwane ephelileyo. Le fomathi, yahluke ngokupheleleyo kwinto endayenza ngaphambili, kwaye ndandinexhala, kuba ndinomfanekiso othile. Kodwa, ngethamsanqa, bekukho ukunxibelelana nesitudiyo, kwaye phambi kombukeli, ndiza kubonakala zahluke ngokupheleleyo kwisakhelo. Ndonwabile ukuba le projekthi indenze ngqo. Le mbali yosapho isondele kum. Ngaphandle kokukhanya okukhona, inzulu kakhulu. Ewe, sicinga ukuba abanye abadlali abancinci bale mihla, khumbula iinkwenkwezi zexesha elidlulileyo, uphawu loovulindlela - kodwa ngale ndlela sinceda ekudibaneni, sisenzela unxibelelwano phakathi kwabo.
-Ndixelele, ngaba ufumene lula ulwimi oluqhelekileyo noonyana bakaYuri?
- Ekuqaleni, ndandinexhala malunga nendlela ababeya kundiqonda ngayo, andinawa amava, kodwa uYura uthe: Relsa: phumla kwaye ube ngokwakho. Kwaye yonke into yaphuma. Ndiyabathanda abantwana, kwaye bayayiva. Ndiyathanda ukujongana nabo, ndipaseza, ndifunde. Ubusika sibafundise ukuba babothuke, kwaye, kunjalo, baxhoma nje entanyeni yam. Ngaphandle kwemeko yangoku noqhawulo-mtshato, sifuna abafana abanee-yura ukuze thina siziva sisekhaya. Ukungqubana kwabantu abadala akuchaphazeli. UYura nguBawo omangalisayo. Bonke abahlobo bam bazibuza ukuba uyabathanda njani abantwana bakhe, njengoko wayelwela umntwana wakhe ongenamntu. Uphakamisa oonyana bakhe, ukuba abakhuluwa, mabame omnye komnye. Sizama ukwenza imeko esempilweni kubo, apho banokukhulisa khona kwaye bonwabe ebomini. Kwaye, ewe, sikunye neYura sifuna umntwana oqhelekileyo.
Ngokubhekisele kootata kunye nabantwana bangqubana, ihlabathi litshintsha, imiqondiso itshintsha. Ndicinga ukuba abazali bethu baphawula umahluko phakathi kwethu. Kwaye, mna, kuyenzeka, krwada: Baphi aba bantwana kwiifowuni bahlale, ungahamba, funda incwadi. Ngamaxesha anjalo ndikukhumbuza ngomama. Kuphela kukrexeza ngelinye ixesha, kwakungekho gadgets emva koko. Bazali bandikhulisile ngokungqongqo. Ngaphezu koko, bendisoloko ndiziva ndomelele. Naxa ndafudukela eMoscow, ndacinga: ukuba kukho into engasebenzi, ndiza kubuyela eYaroslavl. Babenexhala xa ndagqiba kwelokuba ndishiye iGazilprom ndaza ndaqalisa ukwakha umsebenzi kumabonwakude.
-Uthetha ntoni kuwe kwintatheli?
- Xa ndafumanisa ukuba inkxaso-mali ayisiyondlela yam, ndaqala ukuqwalasela ubugcisa obahlukeneyo ngokupheleleyo. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba nawuphi na umsebenzi onyanisekileyo onqeshwe-oko akunandaba nokuba usasaza i-buns, yikhulise iklabishi okanye ukhokele imiboniso yeTV. Amampunge asisiso sono sam, andifuni ukuya kumabonwakude, mhlawumbi, ndinayo. Kusenokwenzeka ukuba ubuntathelo buye banditsalela umnxeba kule nto unokuyenza nyhani kwaye ndincede abantu. Ndayiva, kwaye xa ndayikhuphela "ibali lam" malunga nabanikeli begazi, kwaye kamva, besebenza kule program Andrei Malakhov "Bayeke bathethe." Nangona yenye yezona zinto zoxinzelelo.
-Lena, kodwa kule bonakalisa iNyaniso encinci ...
-Ndiza kucacisa: onke amabali enyaniso, kodwa lo ngumbuzo wokuhlela. Kunzima kakhulu ukwenza omabini amaqela angqubano kule nkqubo. Into esingayi kuphela kwigorha ukuba lenze ukuba lingangeni kwigiya ekhuphisana. Kunzima ngokwengqondo kwakusebenza nabalinganiswa. Ndikhumbula i-plot xa umbhobho ngamanzi ashushu waqhekeka kwisiclub kwaye abantu abanakuphuma apho. Enye intombazana yeza kuthi, yakukhulisa imilenze yayo ngamanzi abilayo, kodwa wancuma kuye wonke umntu. Umntu ophumeleleyo. Ndithi kuye: "Awunakuncuma, kubalulekile ukuba abaphathi beSixeko nabaphathi bayayiqonda le ntlekele." Ndandine neqhayiya xa sakwazi ukutshintsha ubomi bomntu ongcono, xa sakwazi ukunkqonkqoza indawo yokuhlala yosapho olukhulu.
-Ndiyamamela kwaye ndiyaqonda ukuba unee-psyche zentsimbi ...
- Kwi "Butsha" kwakunzima, kunjalo. Kwaye le bhend yam inoncumo lavela nokumangala xa ndiqala ukundihlasela. Emva koko sele eguqukile kwi-Grimimiscus elawulwayo. Ndiyavuma, ndiqeqeshe, ndisebenzise ezinye zeendlela ze-NLP, kuba zinceda intatheli.
- "Ukubekwa esweni ngokubhabha" - iprojekthi yokukhanya xa ithelekiswa ne "Audioralo"?
-Okumthetho ngokubanzi enye indlela. Ekuqaleni, ukubekwa kweliso elingenayo yayiyiAfrika kwi-Intanethi. Bendifuna ukuhlala kwindlela yam yokujonga. Ndicinge ngebhlog yokukhanya emihlanu ukuya kwelishumi, kodwa ekugqibeleni, ngoko sasingenakuyicheba ilixa. Uphando malunga nophando onomdla kakhulu kum, iliso lam livutha. Siphume yi-vkontakte, sasinombukeli olungileyo, sibukele ukuya kwizigidi ezibini. Kwisithuba sesithathu, ndigqibe kwelokuba ndikwazi ukuqubha ezizimeleyo kwaye ndibeka ividiyo kwi-youtube, kwaye emva koko le projekthi yayinomdla kwi-TV Channel "Che!". Esona sibonelelo siphambili yayikukuba siye sidubule ngokunyaniseka yonke into, kwaye abayi kuzama ukusiphembelela. "Ukubekwa esweni kwexesha elizayo" kuyingqondo yam ngokupheleleyo, kodwa ukuba le nisomboniso iyakumisa, andiyi kuba lusizi. Kuya kubakho enye into. Ndisisithandi sobulumko ebomini, ndizilungiselela njengoloyiso kwaye ndilahlekile. Ezi ziziseko zokucinga ngobuchule. Umyeni wam wandifundisa kakhulu. Ngendlela, ekuqaleni kodliwanondlebe babuze umntu ogqibeleleyo owayengumfanekiso wam yayiya kumashumi amathathu anesihlanu eentsuku ezintathu ...
-Kaloku, abatshongo, zithini izinto amele ukuba nazo.
-Ukuphela kwenqanaba lokukhetha kwam kukukhula okuphezulu. Andiyicingi indoda emfutshane. Ndifuna nokuziva ngathi yintombazana encinci. Nawuphi na umntu obhinqileyo omthandayo, bamkhathalela-ayisiyomali, bengayithengi imoto ebizayo, kodwa banikela ingqalelo kunye nobushushu bomntu. Ndinokuxoxa nonke nomyeni wam, ime ethandekayo. Naxa eqala ukunditshutshisa, akukho veki uphindaphindiweyo, "ndiyavuya, ngoko ubonakalisa inyameko.
-Utshintshile ngexesha lakho? Mhlawumbi watshintsha?
-Izalamane zaKhe yayisoyika ukudibana nam. Mna Abantu ngokubanzi boyika. (Kuhleka.) Kodwa ke, xa ndatshata ndaza ndatshata ndaza ndangena kum, udadewethu weza kum, wathi: "Lena, enkosi ngeYura. Awuyicingi into awayeyilahlekile, engathandwa. " UYura ngenene wayenolwalamano olunzima kakhulu. Andifuni ukuxoxa ngale nkcukacha, kodwa ngoku uziva uthando lwam, ububele-andifuni ukulawula, ndinqwenela iimvakalelo zam, kwaye ndiphumle. Ndiye ndathoza kunongeleleko. Andikaze ndinxibelelane nendoda. Ndiyavuya kakhulu: Umsebenzi undinika ukoneliseka, kwaye usapho lunyukeka.