-Lena, ukusuka ecaleni Kubonakala ngathi uyindalo ephikisayo. Apha, uthi ngandlel 'ithile uthi uhlala uthanda ukoyisa into - iqhagamshelwe yile, njengoko ndiyayiqonda, iqhawe lakho lokugqibela. Kwaye sele kolunye udliwanondlebe uyaqinisekisa ukuba uyayithanda intuthuzelo. Idityaniswa njani yonke?
-Andingayithandi loo nto ithuthuzela ukuba bendingazi ukuba loluphi uhlobo. Le sele inyani yexesha elide edumileyo: Ukuze uqonde into elungileyo, kufuneka ufumane into embi. Ngaphandle koko, akukho nto yokuthelekisa kunye. Ke ngoko, mna, "iqhawe lokugqibela" lithuba lokuqiniseka ukuba ndonwabile kwaye ndiphila ngokuchwayitileyo, kwakhona uqiniseke ukuba iminyaka ayingomqobo nakuphi na uvavanyo. Kwaye kuthekani ukuba uzibandakanya ngokwakho, uya kuba kwiiprojekthi ezigqithisileyo kwaye kwiminyaka yam yobudala kukuba ubandakanyeke ngokupheleleyo. Kum yayiyinto enomdla. Andizange ndibekho kwiiPhilippines. Ndithanda ulwandle. Ndiyathanda ukuba bonwabe. Kum, kwakuluhlobo oluthile lweprojekthi enomdla ngokwenene eyaphakamisa ukuzithemba kwam.
-Uthathe inxaxheba kwiprojekthi yangaphambili yegama elinye. Yintoni ke ekucaphukisa ngayo?
Zonke izinto ezifunekayo. Ihlala inomdla kum ukuba ndizive ndive, ndiqonde ukuba ndingubani, kwaye andinakubonakala ndisazi.
-Ukuba ayimfihlo, kwaye ubonakala uphela?
-Ndibonakala ndingumntu owomeleleyo, onzima, onolwazi. Uyakwazi ukufumana iimeko ezixineneyo ezinokubanceda abanye kwiimeko ezinzima. Ndiyayithanda. Uyazi, ebomini awuziwa, zeziphi izilingo esiya kuba nazo, mhlawumbi kuphela kwe-coronavirus. Kodwa ndiyazi ukuba ndingumntu onamandla.
- Kwaye yintoni enzima kwi "qhawe" elidlulileyo, kwaye yintoni- kumcimbi wokugqibela weprojekthi?
-Ngoko kwakuko lonke uhlobo lohambo oluhle kakhulu. Sasineqela eliyindalo, yayiyindlela yokuyila kakhulu kwesi siqithi. Ukongeza kuzo zonke iintlobo zovavanyo, siye sathetha nezihloko ezahlukeneyo zokuyila. Yabelana ngezicwangciso zazo, nemicimbi yazo, ixelele ngezimvo ezithile. Ihlala ingamahlathi anomdla, incoko enomdla. Ngeli xesha ijika inzima - ukuba ngaba umbudala, nokuba sele kukho into eyahlukileyo ngokupheleleyo. Kodwa ndandingenamdla kakhulu nabantu ababethetha ngokuthandwa, ababhala bani, kwintloko entloko ekhathazekileyo malunga nendlela le projekthi iza kuwachaphazela ngayo amaphepha abo kwiinethiwekhi zentlalo. Esi ayisosihloko sam. Kwaye kubonakala kum ukuba inkanyezi kufuneka ibizwe ngenani lokuthanda, kuba zinokwenziwa ngokupheleleyo, uyazi, bike. (Uncumo.) Ukanti, kubalulekile ukuba ufumane le njongo ukuze ufumane imisebenzi yayo, enceda abanye abantu, into ebanikayo, kwaye ubomi abuhambi kakuhle. Ukuba abantu bayamhlonela kwaye bakuthathe inkwenkwezi ngaloo ndlela, oku kunokuba neqhayiya ngayo. Kwaye inyani yokuba ubeka inyani yokuba wenze into emangalisayo apho, oko kukuthi, ngoluvo lwam ... Ngokubanzi, hayi isihloko sam. Ndiyitsho ngaphandle kokugwetywa, ngoku elinye ilizwe, obuBomi, abanye abantu bolutsha, banezinto eziza kuqala. Andiyikhanyela indlela yobomi, ibingayi umdla kum. Khange nditsale nantoni na evela kwabanye abantu bam, ngoko masitsho.
-Ndifuna ukukubuza malunga nokuba loluphi uhlobo lolwalamano namaqhawe wenkqubo, kodwa sele uyiphendulile ...
- Ewe, ukuphendula. Sasikhona. Senze izinto eziqhelekileyo zasekhaya, oku akupheliswanga: Isixhobo senkampu, ukutya, ukugoba ukutya, ukhuphiswano. Kodwa umnqweno onjalo wakuqonda kwaye uyayiqonda nganye nganye ayenzeki.
- Kwaye uphume njani kwezi meko zinzima, ukuze ungabi nomsindo, ungahambi?
Ewe, hayi indlela. Ndicinga ukuba uluntu lukrelekrele kakhulu, olungazange lucinezelelene ngokukodwa. Uyaqonda? Wonke umntu unelungelo lokufumana uluvo, umbono wakhe ebomini. Kwaye le nto, enkosi, waxhaswa ngawo onke amalungu eqela. Mna, nangayiphi na imeko, ikhulu leepesenti.
-Ndixelele, kwaye ngokugqithileyo kubomi obuqhelekileyo kukwakholelwa kuwe?
"Ewe, ndanditshatile noHunter iminyaka engama-30, ndandihamba naye wonke i-Afrika, iKamchatka, uSakhalin." Ukuzingela zonke izilwanyana. Ke ngoko, kum, ukukwazi ukuqhelisela umlilo wehlathi, kuhlala apho iintsuku ezininzi, hamba ngotshintsho lwamashumi eekhilomitha - lo ngumgangatho wobomi. Ndiyayazi yonke le nto, ndiyakwazi.
- Vumela, kwi-cinema bahlala bewela kwiimeko ezinzima, eziqatha?
-Anditsho ukuba iimeko ezigqithileyo, kodwa iimeko ezinzima kwi-cinema zihlala zininzi. Okokuqala, usuku lweyure ezili-12 lokusebenza, kwaye kunzima kakhulu ukushukuma ngokomzimba. Umsebenzi unobuchule, kuphele nako, uyazi, hayi ukuhamba phantsi kwenyanga. Ewe kunjalo, kukho ubunzima: ukubanda, ubushushu, sebenza ngexesha lesi sifo. Kodwa le inyembezi yokusebenza, ngendlela elungileyo, ukuya kunyamezelo. Ukwazi ukunyamezela obu bunzima. Ngoku kukho umkhwa onjalo: Ndiyinkwenkwezi, andinyamezeli nantoni na, yonke into kufuneka ifayilishwe, kodwa ngexesha lethu ayikho into enjalo. Ngokwahlukileyo koko, ukuze uphumelele kwimisebenzi yethu, ufunde ngakumbi. Kwaye iyandinceda ebomini. Andikwazi ukunyamezelana nezinye izinto apho, ezichasene nezinto zam zokuphila, ngokuchasene nezizathu zam ezicwangcisiweyo, ezilungile, kwaye zimbi, nangona kunjalo, kwaye nangona kunjalo zikhusela ezam. Kwaye umonde ngale ngqondo uyandinceda kakhulu. Kuba ukubachasene nomntu okanye into ihlala ilula kunokuqonda enye.
-Uyikhanyele iqabane lakho-umzingeli kunye nelikhoboka lohlobo lokuphumla lokuphumla. Yaba nzima?
Ngapha koko, andikabi likhoboka layo. Ndinesikhundla esilula kakhulu. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba inkosikazi ifanele yabelane ngezinto zokuzonwabisa zomyeni wabo. Kanye njengokuba yena - ukuthandaza komfazi wakhe. Kwaye ukuba le yinkanuko enjalo, kwaye abazingeli banomdla, ke bendinokhetho-okanye ndihlale ekhaya, okanye ndihamba neqabane lam. Kuya kufuneka ndikuxelele ukuba iAfrika ishiya umbono obonakalayo. Ungena ngokupheleleyo umphefumlo. Ndithandana nelizwekazi. Kweli lizwe. Kwinto eyenzekayo apho. Ngapha koko, abaninzi baya kuyivula le nto yokuzingela. Umzekelo, namhlanje e-Afrika ngebengenasilwanyana esinye ukuba asizizingeli abanegalelo lemali enkulu kuhlahlo-lwabiwo mali. Kwaye ngenxa yemali ezilwanyana. Kwaye kukwiifama ezizilongelayo. Kwi-Afrika, e-Afrika e-Afrika, apho kungekho zizathu zokuzingela, akukho mouse, yonke into ityiwa. Ke ngoko, lo mbuzo unzulu kakhulu. Ngokutyala imali yethu, eqokelelweyo ngonyaka ukuya kolunye uhambo, inqwelo moya idlalwe ngabantu abangayiboni inyama iminyaka eliqela. Zonke izilali zafika kuthi. Ezi yayiziholide. Abantu babulela. Abantwana abalambileyo ekugqibeleni bafumana ukutya. Andazi, kodwa bonke abo bavukelayo, ndifuna ukubuza, ukondla umntu kobu bomi, ubuncinci beli lali okanye enye yentsapho? Lo ngumbuzo wonke umbuzo wengxoxo, kuba ukugxothwa, ngamnye unaso isikhundla sayo, kodwa ndibambelela loo nto.
- Ngaba ucinga ukuba kufanelekile ukubahlula izinto zokuzonwabisa zamadoda kunye nebhinqa? Sithini isikhundla sakho?
-Ndicinga ukuba yenzeka ngeendlela ezahlukeneyo. Ewe kunjalo, indoda, mhlawumbi, ayiyonto inomdla kakhulu ukuya kuthenga, khetha iminqwazi okanye izihlangu. Kwaye mna, njengomfazi, kunjalo, uxolo izilwanyana ezizingela. Kodwa kubonakala ngathi kungenxa yam xa amalungu entsapho ebona ulonwabo kwelinye elinye, kwaye akufuneki uphulukane nala maxesha.
-Ungathi, amadoda agqithisileyo uyathanda, kodwa hayi ngokwendlela yexesha elide ngeparashute, kodwa ngokwezenzo zabo, izisombululo?
"Ndingumntu owonwabileyo kakhulu, kuba ecaleni kwam uhlala - ukuba kulo msebenzi, ukuze ubomi babukho abantu, ukuba babizwe ngokukodwa. Abantu abasemphefumlweni wabo banentonga enamandla yothando lobo bomi. Umnqweno wokuqonda obu bomi. Ndibathanda kakhulu abantu abangahlali kuphela kuba bavuke namhlanje. Bahlala benesicwangciso, kuhlala kukho i-ipires, kuhlala kukho ithamsanqa. Olona xesha lokuphila ngengqondo eyenza ukuba iqhubele kuyo, kwaye hayi nje ukuba iphile. Nazi abantu abahlala ubomi babo, abaya kuba, abanamdla kakhulu kum.
-Ufanekisela njani umntu ukuba unyamekele?
-Ndim? (Kuhleka.) Sele ndiphelelwe lixesha lokuthetha malunga nokuthandana kwamadoda. Kungcono ukuba ndingakhathali, kuba akukho mntu ungongeza into ebomini bam. Ewe, kwaye andinakumnika into ekhethekileyo, eyayingekho kuye. (Ukuhleka.) Kodwa ndicinga ukuba indoda ngokomgaqo wokukhathalela umfazi njengoko efuna. Kwaye indlela aza kusabela ngayo kuyo, sele ingxaki yayo. Akukho kupheka. Kwaye sisidenge, mhlawumbi, ukhathalela umfazi ngenxa yokuba ethanda. Kufuneka yenziwe njengoko uthanda. Kungenxa yokuba ekugqibeleni kuya kubakho ukudityaniswa kweshawa, hayi i-tel nje.
- Kwiminyaka elishumi elinanye ukuba ube yinkosi yezemidlalo kwi-Gymnastics yeMidlalo. Ungaze uyenze malunga nendlela ekhethiweyo? Khange ucinge ngesihloko sento enokuba yintoni, hamba uye kumkhondo wezemidlalo?
"Ndingumntu owonwabileyo owonwabileyo ngokomgaqo endingamazanga amazwi athi" ukuzisola. " Ndicinga ukuba: Yonke into eyenzekileyo ebomini bam ithunyelwe kum ngekamva. Ke ichanekile. Kwaye indlela esekwe ngayo ubomi bam, yayingolu hlobo lulandelayo. Kwaye oko ukuzisola ngokuba kunokuba njalo, ayaziwa into enokuphela. Kwaye ngokubanzi ayinangqondo. Ndingumntu wasemhlabeni. Andizithandi ezi zinto zingenanto, ngakumbi ukubonakaliswa kwethemba: apho ndilahlekile, njengoko bekungasebenzi. (Ukuhleka.) Ndiyamthanda ubomi bam. Ndoneliseke ngokupheleleyo ngumntu wonke. Ndiyayithanda yonke into. Ndinenani elikhulu lokuthenga, iiklasi. Kwaye ndiyabulela kuyo yonke into eyenzekileyo ebomini bam, yenzeka kwaye iyakwenzeka.
- kwaye umdlalo usakunceda ebomini?
- Ewe kunjalo. Le yimbuyiselo yam.
"Uthetha kakuhle ngobudala bakho, nangona abaninzi bebambela." Ngoba?
- Ukwenzela ntoni? (Ukuhleka.) Kuhlekisa kum. Ubudala yipasipoti, kodwa imeko yomphefumlo, imeko yezempilo, ukunxibelelana nabantu, kwaye malunga noku, yonke into ilungelelene.
-Uwukhathalela njani umzimba wakho, umphefumlo wakho?
-Ndizikhathalele. Ndandihlala ndikholelwa ukuba kwakungcono ukuthintela isifo kunokuphatha. Ke, ngenxa yesondlo esifanelekileyo, indlela yokuphila esempilweni, ukulala kakuhle, umoya ococekileyo yinto yonke ibaluleke kakhulu. Kwaye konke endinako. Namhlanje ndingu, Pah, Pah, ugh, wanelisekile yimpilo yakhe. Ngemeko yayo. Inani lomsebenzi.
-Ukuthenga indlu eSochi ikwasisitayile esincinci. Ufuna ntoni?
-Ndiza kucacisa. Inyani yile yokuba ndiyayithanda intwasahlobo nehlobo kakhulu. Ndiyaluthanda kakhulu ulwandle. Ndihlala ndimkhumbula. Ndiyathanda ixesha elide ukuqubha. Ndiyazithanda kakhulu iintaba. Kwaye naziphinde izityalo, kwaye, ngelishwa, ayizizo zonke ezikhulayo kumadlelo. Yonke le nto ndim kwaye ndikhuthaza ukuthenga indlu eSochi. Kodwa oku kwakungonelanga kum, ndiye ndaqonda ukuba ndifuna ukuma emhlabeni, ndingaphili kumgangatho weshumi elinanye. Ngoku ndisakha indlu, kuba ndifuna ukutyala umkhiwane, i-kiwi ukuze amanzi amhule. Ke ukuba zazikhona ezo zityalo zingenakukhula apha. Ewe kunjalo, le ndima yadlalwa yinto endandinayo i-aschial bidesma. Nakwiintaba, ndiyekile ukuphefumla nge-pshkalki yam. Kodwa iinyanga ndikho ngaphandle kokunceda impilo yakho, ndiziva ndilungile apho.
-Ngathi, eSochi Azange bathenge nje igumbi: Uthenge kwaye umanyene ngoko nangoko kumgangatho wonke?
- Amagumbi ngoku uthengise: iimitha ezingama-20, iimitha ezingama-30. Kum, esi asiyosikwere, bendihlala ndisebenza kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga. Imeko yam yegumbi lam. Ndize ndibeke kwindawo encinci, kwaye ndinesitayile.
"Ngaba ukho ngandlel 'ithile undixelele ukuba baqala ukwakha indlu, ngenxa yokuba banesithukuthezi kwindlu yamadlelo?
-Uyazi, ndadiza emhlabeni. Ndiyakuthanda ukukhulisa iintyatyambo, izityalo, fumana isivuno sakho, ndithanda kakhulu ukutya okubuhlobo okusingqongileyo, kuwe. Ngoba lo mbandela, njengoko ndiyayiqonda, ayisiyiyo kuphela ukuba imveliso ikhule ngaphandle kwesichumisi, ngaphandle kwe-chemistry, kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba wayezazi izinto zakho. Kwaye kuyandivuyisa. Ndifunda kwindalo. Ndiyamthanda. Kwaye uthetha lukhulu kum. Kwaye, ezintabeni - iparadesi yam.
- Kwindlu yakho yendlu engagungqiyo kukho igadi, kwaye igadi, kunye ne-Cop yenkukhu, yonke le nto ihleli namhlanje? Okanye uya kujongana nayo yonke le nto kwiSochi?
Yonke into ishiywe, kwaye nayo i-Copkenkw, kodwa ndilapha, ngelishwa, andinakuqalisa, kuba ndingenabasebenzi abandincedayo, ithemba alikho lukhulu. Ke ngoku ndikho ngaphandle kwabo. Kodwa apho, eSochi, bona. Apho unaye umntu oza kubanyamekela iinkukhu.
- Ke indlu sele ifanelekile?
- Indlu iyakhiwa, nangona kunjalo, kusekho umhombiso. Ngoku kwi-coronavirus akukho mvuzo, kodwa linda. (Uncumo.)
-Uyintoni indlu wena?
- Kum, indlu ithetha izinto ezininzi. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba andinakuthelekiswa kuye. Ubomi bam benzekile ukuba andizive ndingumhlali, umzekelo, eRussia okanye kwingingqi yeMoscow. Ndizibiza ngokubamba. Ndihlala kwiPlanethi yoMhlaba. Kwaye sele ndiyifuna ukuba ndiyiza ixesha apho lilizwe elinye, iplanethi enye. Sonke siya kuthandana, singayifumani i-buckwheat kunye nenye kwizinto zokubala. Ke ngoko, ndiziva ndonwabile, kumgaqo, kuyo yonke indawo. Ndiqhuba kakhulu notyelelo. Naphi na apho bendikhona, ndihlala ndihlala. Kodwa indlu yile, uyayazi indlela ebhedi eshushu. Apho ufike apho, kwaye kukho i-lingrie yakho, evumba ivumba elimnandi, kukho indawo yakho epholileyo apho unokuphumla khona. Le yindlu. Kwaye ukuba unokuba nakho naphi na. Kodwa kufanelekile. Kufanele ukuba ukukhanya, kushushu, kukuphola, kufanele ukuba zizityalo, izilwanyana ukuze uze nemihlali.