Ukubonakala komntu i-tinda suinton kuyayivuyisa iingqondo zabalawuli ezibandayo ezinzulu, uJim Dzeharn, i-Wes Anderson kunye nabantakwabo uCohen, balinde iingalo ezivulekileyo kwiiprojekthi zabo. Olu mbala we-hertired uhlobo lwakudala lungoyiki ukudlala ezona zinto zinzima. UngumChali ongumfazi wokwenene kunye nebhinqa, ixesha lokucenga. Kwaye kubomi bokwenyani, inkanyezi ihlanga ngempumelelo ngendima yendima yothando yabantwana ababini esele ineengcibi ze-sseler bappa, ophantsi kweminyaka yakhe engamashumi amabini. Malunga neziganeko zazo ezimangalisayo zeMbali yoBomi kwi-Argests ichaza udliwanondlebe nemagazini "umoya wobuhle".
- Tilde, uvela kwintsapho enesidima. Utata wakho-ukubala, ubuntwana budlula kwinqaba, kwaye ulutsha - Izikolo eziKhoing zaseYurophu Ngeentombi eziLungileyo ... Vumelana, yonke le ngxelo ivakalayo
Ngokwesiqhelo. Kwaye yayinjani?
-Ukunyaniseka, yonke imihla. Ndikhumbula xa ndinkqonkqoza amashumi amabini anesihlanu, umama wema ukuze abhiyozele ukuhamba kwam amashumi amabini ananye aphuma endlwini. Khange ndiyithande lo mbono. Ngokuqhelekileyo ndibonakala ndihlekisa lo mfanekiso kwizikolo ezivaliweyo, ezenziwa kwiincwadi kunye neefilimu. Ukugweba ngamava am, akukho nto ilungileyo kuyo. Okuninzi ukhumbuza inkampu yoxinaniso kunenye yeziko elikhethekileyo labantwana basekhaya. Ubundlobongela obuqinileyo kubuntu. Ngendlela, ndandinikwa apho kunyaka ongaphambi kokuphumla. Abazali ngokukhawuleza bafudukela eJamani, kwaye umntwana kufuneka aye kwenye indawo. Ke ndiva ubunzima bonke. (Ukuhleka.) Ndifunde ekuqaleni kwesinye kwisikolo esinye noDiana Spencer, ndaza ndafudukela kwenye, apho uTony Blair waba ngumfundi endifunda naye. Ngaba ufuna ukuya kwinyaniso? Andikwazanga kuma zombini. I-aristocrats eqhelekileyo.
-Uye wahlukile? Ngaba nxamnye nemithetho?
-Akungekho mfuneko yokuba nemvukelo. Kwisikolo sokugqibela, apho ndafunda khona, kwakunqatshelwe ukunxibelelana nabafundi kwiiklasi eziphezulu. Ukuba umntu othile wakubona uthetha nabo, ungaba ngumntu ongenguye ongenguye. Kwaye mna, ndiyakhumbuza, kwaye ke bekuya eklasini unyaka omncinci kunabanye. Ke qinile-kuphantse kube sekuhlekeni kwam kwasebuncinaneni. Ngoku andisekho finagoer. Ndiyasiqonda kakuhle isizathu sokuba abazali bandithume ngaphandle kwendlu. Kodwa kubantwana bakhe andibuboni ubomi obunjalo ubomi, bafundisisa izikolo eziqhelekileyo.
Ifoto: Isakhelo esivela kwifilimu "ye-orlando"
- Emva koko yayiyiCambridge. Kodwa, ngokwazi kwam, iingcinga zokuba ngumdlali weqonga ngelo xesha awukabikho, akunjalo?
Ewe, ndafunda kwi-poetess, kodwa ebomini bam andizange ndibhale umbongo omnye. (Uncumo.) Emva koko ubone abafundi kwisangqa esibambeleyo besasazeka kwinqanaba, kwaye bagqiba kwelokuba bazimanye. Ndisoloko ndikuthanda ukudlala imidlalo, ndingazibhali. Ngethamsanqa, abazali bandixhasa. Kusapho lwethu, abazange bacinge ukuba kufuneka afumane kwaye abe nomnye umsebenzi, ngoko umama notata babonakala ngathi ukwenza ukuba izinto ezihle kakhulu, njengokususwa kweentlobo ezintsha ze roses. Ingakumbi le yinkanuko enkulu. Ekuphela kwento ebendilinde abazali kukwenza iqela elifanelekileyo. Kodwa xa bafumanisa ukuba ndinazo ezinye iinjongo, yiyeke nje ukuqubha ngokukhululekileyo. Baze bazama ukubona izifilimo zam, kodwa ngamehlo abo amakhulu kunye nokungabikho kwazo zonke izimvo, ndabona ukuba azicacanga nto. Ngale nto, umdla wabo kwimisebenzi yam yokusebenza iphelile. (Uhleka.) Ngendlela, umama ngandlela thile wathi nguyise ongu-goones yakhe wayekuthanda ukubulawa kuka-Aria, okwisiko elisondeleyo kumdlalo we-Actor. Ke andinguye owokuqala kwintsapho yethu ngezityholo zobugcisa. Kodwa andikacingi ukuba umdlali wengcali.
- Kanjani? Uwe, ukuba ubambele, ungene kwi-cinema ngaphezulu kweminyaka engamashumi amathathu ubudala!
"Kodwa andizange ndizifundile." Ke ngoko, ndihlala ndisithi ndingumthandi webhanyabhanya, hayi ingcali. Eyunivesithi ndifunde ikakhulu uncwadi lwesiNgesi kunye nesayensi yezopolitiko. Isangqa seholo seholo yayingaphezulu komphefumlo. Ngubani owaziyo ngelo nto yonke into esongelayo.
-Yintoni inguqu ehambelana nomlingisi, ukuba ulungiselela ngokupheleleyo kwenye?
-Ukuba neminyaka engamashumi amabini anesihlanu, ndahamba ndihlala eLondon ndasuka ndangena kwinto ebizwa ngokuba yiBomi yokwenene. Kwizikolo ezivaliweyo, abafundi baphile, ngoko ke ndaye ndayiphelisa yonke into ngokwakho. Yena ngokwakhe wayenemveliso yovavanyo kwaye waza ngokukhawuleza wadibana noMlawuli Derek Jarmann. Utsalele imbonakalo yam, amandla okudlala iindima ze-Androgy. UDerek, emva kwayo yonke loo nto, umculi wemfundo, ubona yonke into ayimisi kakhulu. Kwaye ubuso bam yile nto. Ngokubanzi, yonke into iphuma, kwaye wayengoyiki ukundinika indima enkulu, nangona ndandingenamava. Emva koko ndalamba "kwi-caravagragio yakhe", emva koko ndalandela iiprojekthi ezimbalwa zendlu.
"UDerek Jarman waba ngumcebisi wakho, ugcwele iifilimu ezilithoba kwaye wenza inkumbulo yalo thuba." Nceda usixelele ukuba kutheni kubaluleke kangaka kuwe?
- Okokuqala, andinguye kuphela inkumbulo ka-Derek njengomhlobo, kodwa ndingomnye kumlawuli omkhulu, ukuba ndizisole kakhulu, bambalwa. Kutshanje ndichithe iSemina kwiSikolo esinye sefilimu kwaye sabonisa iziqwenga kwiifilimu zakhe. Kum, kwakukothuka ukufumanisa ukuba kungava mntu ngako konke. Kwangelo xesha, abafundi babukele iimpazamo zomsebenzi wakhe kwaye bengazange bangcangcazeleni, abandiqinisekisa kum ubume bayo beNkosi. Ithuba elingaphezu kweminyaka engamashumi amabini oko wafa, kodwa mna, uDeree uhlala kwimisebenzi yakhe, kwaye ndizama ukusixelela rhoqo. Ndityala kulo mntu. Nguye owaqala wakholwa kum, wandinika ithuba lokwenza into endandizibuza yona, kwaye ndiyixelele. Akazange andenze ndidlale iindima ezingaphendulanga emphefumlweni wam. UDerek wayenobuthathaka kakhulu kumlawuli kwaye bahlala bemamela abadlali bakhe, wayethetha kakhulu nathi kwinkqubo yokusebenza kwifilimu. Ndiqinisekile ukuba ayingengakhe, andizukubelwa konke, emva koko ndaye ndaphinda ndaphila, ndaye ndahlala ndiphumle, ndaphumla abantwana nge-duse - Ngokubanzi, zonke ezi patheni ze-cereepy. Kwaye uDerek undixelele nje ngelo xesha: "Ndifuna ukuba uphuhlise kwicala ovavayo. Ngaba uyayithanda imuvi? Ke masicinge ngendlela esinokuyisebenzisa ngayo. Ndihlala ndixhasa nayiphi na imizamo yakho. " Nabazali bandixhasa, kodwa kwahlukile. Kwindlela abasebenza ngayo, kwakukhangeleka ngathi "nantoni na engenamntwana ayinakuphela ...", kwizimbiza zange baphose. UDerek waba ngutata wam e-cinema, waphantse wandikhulisa. Ngoku ndenza izinto ezininzi ezinesonka kwindlela yakhe kunye neefilimu zakhe. Kuyinyani, wenza izinto ezinjengam kuphela. Umzekelo, umculi kwintlabathi yeSanti Powell, ngoku isebenza kunye ne-SCRDESE, nayo iqalile kuDerek. "I-caravaggio" yayiyifilimu yakhe yokuqala. Kuye, uJarman wathi: "Fundani iskripthi uze wenze imizobo yakho njengoko uyibona. Andizukuphazamisa nantoni na. " Into ecacileyo, incinci "ivule" izimvo zethu, kodwa ngaba zenzekile ngononophelo njengenye. Indlela yakhe yokudubula yayihlukile. Ngendlela, yayikukuhlonipha uDerek ndadibana nomnye umphathi owodwa - uLuka Guadagnino, owayenamaxesha amathathu. Ixesha lokuqala ngo-2008 kwifilimu "ndiluthando."
- Kwaye waba nguMlawuli wefilimu yokugqibela ngokuthatha inxaxheba kwakho. Singatsho ukuba ukhulele kunye naye?
"Ewe, xa saqala ukudibana okokuqala, wayeneminyaka engamashumi amabini anesibini ubudala." Kwaye wayengumculi wemfundo, njengoDerek. Ndinethamsanqa kumagcisa. (Uncumo.) Ngandlel 'ithile bayakwazi ukundibona kwimifanekiso encomekayo ngokupheleleyo.
Ifoto: Isakhelo esivela kwimovie "into engeyiyo iKevin"
Indlu ye-ART iye yaba yinto ethandwayo ye-cothunder yakho, kodwa ukwazile ukudlala eHollywood. Oko kukuthi, into enye ayiphazamisi konke konke?
-Ngaba le nto ingaphazamisi ... Ngokuchaseneyo, iiprojekthi zeHollywood zindinceda ukukhuthaza iimuvi ezithathwe kwi-connoisses yokwenyani ye-cinema. Umzekelo, yayikuye "eNarnia weikrisimesi". Ndinombulelo ongazenzisiyo kwisitudiyo iDisney yokuba bandithatha inxaxheba kwindima yamagqwirha amhlophe. Kodwa kuphela ngenxa yokuba kungabikho ntengiso ingcono iiprojekthi zam ezikhethekileyo, ezinjengo "Bukumkanini lwenyanga epheleleyo", "kukho into engalunganga ngeKevin" okanye "i-orlando" kune-vibbusters. Kum, i-hollywood lithuba lokuzikhumbuza ngendalo yam ephambili - iifilimu apho ndingazityhila khona. Ngendlela, kwimizobo yantlandlolo, igqwirha elimhlophe lahlukile - ubuhle ngokwesondo kwingubo emhlophe enamafutha amnandi kunye nemilebe. Kodwa ndavukela, ndatsho ukuba andizukudlala kanjalo. Kwaye ngesizathu esithile andizange ndigxothwe phaya, kodwa ndimamele iimfuno zam. Kwaye oku kuse-Pustaio Projekthi, apho yonke into ivunyiwe kwelona nqanaba liphezulu!
- Kwinkcubeko ye-gech edumileyo - abalinganiswa abanomdla kakhulu. Rhoqo babizwa ngokuba bobutshaba bokuqala. Mhlawumbi, yiyo loo nto ulunge kakhulu kwindima enxulumene nomlingo?
-Uyayazi, ndiyamthanda esi sihloko. Ndihlala ndifunda. Imbali yokwenyani yamasebe eYurophu inomdla kakhulu. Umzekelo, eScotland gqibezela i-storceress kumlilo otshiswe kwiminyaka engamakhulu amabini eyadlulayo. Mamela kuphela: Zimbini kwiinkulungwane ezidlulileyo! Yonke le nto iphela! Esi siganeko senzeka kwilali kufutshane nosapho lwam. Ibhinqa eligama linguIsabel gouda, eneneni, yayilinenekazi nje elilumkileyo nelifundileyo, latshisa ephila kwiikhilomitha ezilishumi ukusuka endlwini yam. Kumaphephandaba welo xesha, kutyiwa ukuba ivumile kwiimeko ezininzi zokusetyenziswa komlingo omnyama, ukusukela ekuguqukeni kwiqela lezilwanyana ezahlukeneyo kunye nokuphela ngonxibelelwano noMtyholi. Kubonakala ngathi kuyamangalisa ukuba abafazi abalumkileyo basaqwalasele uhlobo oluthile lwamajiza, kwaye ulwazi lwabo luvavanywa ngamadoda kwizikhundla ezikwizikhundla ezikude nezezizathu. Ke ewe, kukho into oyibhinqileyo kuyo, ukuba phantse intombazana ingabulala kuphela ukuba ufundile. Kwezi sihloko, kakhulu senzelwe ... kodwa ukuba ubunzulu, unokufumana iititshala ezinamandla kunye nabalinganiswa bemifanekiso efanayo nakweyiphi na inkcubeko: "I-ATEA GOSTONA:" Smart? Ke, kusenokwenzeka ukuba i-schoces. " Ngaba kulungile? Akunjalongo noko. Ke ngoko, i-feritors kwaye isebenzise lo mfanekiso rhoqo, kwaye amadoda amabhinqa abize igqwirha labo.
-Umnye umfanekiso owuthandayo kwimovie ngumama. Mhlawumbi, iindima ezinjalo ngaba unethemba kakuhle kuba unabo abantwana?
"Kwelinye icala, ewe, ndinabo abantwana, kodwa kwelinye - bandilawula ngesizathu sokuthetha: ndandinomama. Kuyinyani, sinolwalamano oluhle naye. Kwaye ukuba sithetha ngefilimu "yomzali" ophambili "into engalunganga nguKevin", ke ngoko ndidlala umama ombi. Ngokubanzi, mna, iindima ezinjalo zithuba lokuphila kwiimeko ezininzi ezahlukileyo: ungaxolela unyana kaBiller, njengoko kwakuseKevin, ngaphandle "ezantsi", okanye ulibale malunga nengqondo yoomama , njengakwi "I-I-LONO-o lo luthando" ... kwaye ke ndithanda ukuya kwintsapho yam, ndiqala ukuziva ngezizukulwane zam, ndiqala ukuziva ngezizukulwane zam zeScotland. Ngaphambili, ibibaluleke ngakumbi kum ukuba ndihluke kubo kangangokuba ndohlukile, kwaye ngoku ndifuna enye indlela yam yokudibanisa umthi wobubele, ukuba yinxalenye yento ngakumbi.
Kodwa kwangaxeshanye, wena dlala indima yabalinganiswa abadibeneyo ... njengoko kwakunjalo kuMichael Clayton, owufumana uOscar.
- Ngokucacileyo, kum, le ndima iye yahluke ngokupheleleyo, nokuba ingaqhelekanga kangakanani. Andiqhelanga ukudlala abantu abaqhelekileyo. Nantsi ke, ingamagqwirha, zonke iintlobo zezilwanyana zasemzini zezam. (Uhleka.)
Ewe kunjalo, ngenkangeleko yakho. Kubonakala ngathi uhle ukusuka kwimizobo yasePrerafalite. Ngaba unazo naziphi na iingxaki ngale nto?
-Kunzima ukuphikisana nento yokuba andimhle. Kodwa ekubeni ebuntwaneni kwabonakala ngathi sisidima esikhulu, hayi ukungaqiniseki. Ndandihlala ndabelalwe kwisihlwele. Ukwenza oku, akukho nto kwakufuneka yenziwe. Ubuhle bunoxinzelelo olukhulu, lubeka indlela yokuziphatha ethile, iqhuba kwisakhelo esinzima. Andiqhelekanga ngokuqinisekileyo kum. Kwaye ndiyathanda ukuba ndizola ngokuzolileyo abalinganiswa bawo nawuphi na umgangatho okanye ukuchitha isini kwaphela, ukuba ngumntu ongaqinisekanga. Ndifana nento yobugcisa. Ungafaka imyuziyam. (Uhleka.)
Ifoto: Isakhelo esivela kwimovie "emva kokufunda"
-Unetalente efihliweyo?
Ewe, mhlawumbi, ndinezakhono ezimbalwa endingaqhelanga ukuqhayisa. Ke, ndimpheka i-pie i-pie i-pie i-pie i-coh-i-corona efanelekileyo. Ngendlela, ukupheka sisifundo sam endisithandayo ngexesha lam lokuphumla, ngelishwa, ukusilela kakhulu. Kodwa xa kukhutshwa ixesha, ndingena ekhitshini. Ndiyakuthanda ukupheka abahlobo kunye nosapho. Kubonakala kum ukuba i-arsury Argety ayinakwenzeka ngaphandle kothando. Kwisitya ngasinye esenza isiqwenga sakho, ngoko ke iqondakale ngokwemeko embi. Ngapha koko, ndiyakuthanda ukulungisa izinto, ngakumbi ukuba zinxulunyaniswa nokuthunga. Kwaye ngokubanzi, hayi imbi kumazantsi. Kwaye ndipakishwe nguThixo. Njengomqhubi, ngokunyaniseka, andilunganga kakhulu. Ngaba le nto ndilahlekelwe ngokupheleleyo kwi-cretinicism-ndingafumana isakhiwo kwaye ndingaze ndichithe naphi na. Kodwa ndiqhuba imoto ndiphakathi.
-Uyikhankanye ukuba abantwana bakho baphile ubomi obuqhelekileyo. Kwaye banokwenza into ekoyikisayo kakhulu?
Ke ngoku amawele am, intombi ka-onor, nonyana kaXavier, iminyaka engamashumi amabini, zisazinayile. I-hippies yokwenene. Kwaye ndiyayithanda ngokungagungqiyo! Kodwa ukuba ngequbuliso bagqiba kwelokuba babe ngoomabhalane, ndomangalisiwe. (Kuhleka.) Kodwa ndicinga ukuba le nto kusapho lwethu ayisoze yenzeke. Ngendlela, notata wabo, uJohn Wordy-Sidibene no-1986, xa ndandineminyaka engamashumi amabini anesihlanu, ndaza kwangoko ndisigqibe kwesobuso bethu Ngaphandle kwentsapho. Ngoku ibizwa ngokuba nobudlelwane besimahla. Amashumi amane anesihlanu ndidibane nomnye umntu ovuthayo (ndiyaphindaphinda, ndinethamsanqa kubo) - i-sandro coppa. Kwaye ngoku bendinomahluko kwindoda yam kwakhona xa ndineminyaka engamashumi amabini, kodwa ngeli xesha ndaye ndaba mdala kakhulu. Saye savela uSandro, kwaye uYohane walwamkela ubudlelwane bethu njengento enokwenziwa. Wahlala nabantwana apho kufuneka simke, kwaye kwada kwasamkela ngokufudumeleyo ekhaya. Sizame esingazibhengeze iinkcukacha zobomi bethu kudliwanondlebe, kodwa sihlala nje apho usapho olukhulu. Kodwa ngonyaka ka-2009, kukhunjulwa, isibetho esikhulu sisasazeke kule mbali yemithombo yeendaba, yonke impahla yam yangaphantsi yakhutshwa. Endaweni yoko, kwabonakala kubo balinen emfazwe. Ekuqaleni babhala ukuba andinantloni ndihamba nomntu endithanda. Bahlala, njengoko besitshoyo, umyeni. Kwaye xa bafumanisa ukuba uJohn uyazi ukuba akukho nto ichasene noko, waqala ukuhlasela ukuba ngolunye uhlobo lokuziphatha okubonakalayo kunye nosapho lwaseSweden. Ngenxa yoko, sasongela kwaye sagqiba kwelokuba siphendule imibuzo yeentatheli. Ndalazi ibinzana elifundileyo: "Siphila noJohn nabantwana, kwaye uSandro ngamanye amaxesha uhamba nam." Xa iPaparazi yayidiniwe kukumamela kwanto enye, babezingemva kwethu. Ndikunye noJohn sisenabahlobo abasondeleyo, kodwa kunye ixesha elide asiphili. Simanyene ngabantwana. Ngoku umyeni wam uSandro.
-Ndingakwazi ukubuza ngoDavide ifonti. Ngapha koko, ubonakala ngaphandle ngokungakhethi, kwaye andimangalisiyo yinyaniso yokuba ubuyiwe kwiklip yakhe. Yenzeka njani le nto?
-Ndaba fan yakhe ukusuka kwiminyaka elishumi elinesithathu ubudala. Ndamamela irekhodi lakhe kwaye ndawa nothando. Kwaye ekuqaleni yaphulukana nesipho sokuthetha xa ndabona ikhava esitolo. Kubonakala ngathi ndingabaphambukeli ngeenwele ezibomvu yikopi yam. Ukuba sikunye neplanethi enye! Ndakhawuleza ndaziva ndinomphefumlo onayo. Kwaye ngoku kwiminyaka emininzi kamva yaba yifowuni - kwaye kwelinye icala locingo lukaDavide ... kwaye uyandimema ukuba ndidlale kwiklip yakhe. Ngaba ucinga ukuba bendinamathandabuzo? (Uhleka.)
"Kubonakala kum ukuba umntu omangalisayo, njengawe, makabe ngamaphupha amnandi omnandi kakhulu. Uyabakhumbula?
-Ndidla ngokuphupha amaphupha anzima, amaphupha ahlukeneyo. Ngaphambili, ndazama ukubabhangisa, kodwa ke ngoko umlingo ulahlekile. Ukuba bendisazi ukuba ndingayibhala kakuhle into endandizame ukuyifundisa eCambridge, mhlawumbi iya kuba nakho ukubeka amaphupha njengesiseko sePrict kwaye sisuse iprojekthi yakho yendlu. Kodwa, ngelishwa, andizange ndifunde ukubhala, ukuze iiplani zamaphupha zihlala ziyinkumbulo yam.
- Yeyiphi indima onokuyidlala kwixesha elizayo? Mhlawumbi kukho imifanekiso ethile engakunikanga uxolo?
-Ndibaluleke ngakumbi kunendima yangam, kodwa ndiza kusebenza naye. Umzekelo, xa umhlobo wam u-Weerson wandithumela iscripti entsha, ndiyavuma, ndingade ndiyifunde. Andisuki kubahlobo. Ndiye ndadlala umchani olupheleyo, ojongeka ngathi ngamanxuwa asekhulu. Kodwa impilo entle yayikukuba umama wam wasweleka ngeli xesha lefilimu, ekucetyiswayo. Kwaye ndizamile ukuba naye rhoqo. Ivuthiwe phaya-umva. Ke ngoko i-filmography yam iyisingikazi sezicwangciso zabahlobo bam neminqweno yam. Ndihamba ngomjelo kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba ikamva liya kundiphosa ngqo iindima endifuna ukuzidlalela. Ke hayi, andizakhi naziphi na izicwangciso zekamva. Andinayo umsebenzi kwimovie, ndinobomi obunxulunyaniswa nemisonto eqinileyo.