Kutshanje, uMay mayakina usarhuma iindima zamadoda aphefumlelweyo ngenkanuko. Kwaye ebomini, unika umbono womntu onengqiqo kakhulu onayo. Kungekudala kwafuneka akhule-kwiminyaka elishumi elinesibhozo, inoveli ilahlekileyo abazali bakhe kunye nodade wabo. Kwakhona, waba yintloko yentsapho, etshata umfazi onabafazi abathathu. Kwaye ngoku sele ikhula kwaye isine - i-mikhail. Ungawugcina njani ulungelelwaniso phakathi kwendlu kunye nomsebenzi, iminqweno kunye namathuba, kunye nento yokufundisa oonyana-kudliwanondlebe.
-IRomani, njengakwi "Ubomi obumnandi", kuluhlu olutsha "lwe-psychologies" kwi-STS yakho ingaphakathi konxantathu wothando. Ayoyiki ukubambelela kule ndima?
Ewe, ndandibonakala ndiqala ukuba amabali ayafana. Kodwa apha kukho umahluko omkhulu. "Ubomi obumnandi" iqhawe lam, njengoko libizwa, ngamanqatha, ukugoba: uligosa likarhulumente, epakishwe, kukho usapho, abantwana. Ukusuka kwisithukuthezi, uqalisa ukukhangela amantombazana amnandi. Kwi "Psychologists", indoda eqolileyo iwela eluthandweni-kwaye ukuze avuthele phantsi uphahla. Kwaye ugqirha wezengqondo uzifumana ukuba azisindisa usapho. Mhlawumbi ezinye izinto zenzolo ziphambene Sizibophelele kwimizuzu yothando. Nangona ngokobuqu andikaze ndibenalo ebomini. Ndinengqondo eyaneleyo kuyo yonke into, kubandakanya ubudlelwane. Mhlawumbi yonke into iseza ngaphambili. Nantsi inkosikazi ifundwe - iya konwaba. (Ihleka.) Ngayiphi na imeko, ukudlala ngokuthandabuza amadoda- yintoni enokuba ngcono ?!
- Ngaba awunayo imeko yokuphila, xa kwakufuneka ukhethe phakathi kwabasetyhini ababini?
"Kudala ndihlala no-Elena, umfazi wam, olishumi elinanye, mhlawumbi." KwiZiko, ngokuqinisekileyo, iinoveli zenzeka, kodwa bendihlala ndiqonda ngokungagungqiyo, kwaye akukho mntu. Ke akufuneki ukhethe. Kodwa oku kuyinto ecekeceke, umxholo, obizwa ngokuba nguNaphakade. Sonke sizama ukuphepha inkqubo yosapho. Ngamanye amaxesha amadoda nabafazi nabafazi ngandlel 'ithile bahlukanisa ubomi babo ngokwesondo, ngokweemvakalelo. Kuvela i-fantasy, kodwa ayinguye wonke umntu onesibindi ngokwaneleyo sokuthatha inyathelo elilandelayo. Ifuna amandla athile kunye ne-nerves yokutshabalalisa ubudlelwane bakhe kwaye uqalise abatsha. Kwaye uninzi lwabantu lukwavila ngendalo. Ngokwam, ndineemeko ezaneleyo kwimovie. Xa uthando ludlalwa, ubotshelelwe kwiqabane, wenza ngathi ibali ngokwakho. Yonke into iphantse yafana nenyani.
Kwindlela "yengqondo", iqhawe likaMayakina lalingaphakathi konxantathu
-URoma, ngaba unomdla wokuzithemba, hlalutya izenzo zakho?
-Ndibonakala kum ukuba nabani na kufuneka ahlaziye isenzo sakhe. Uhlalutyo olulungileyo oluzisa iziphumo ezilungileyo kuphucula umgangatho wobomi, lo ngumsebenzi othile kuwe. Ngoku bendiqhuba kudliwanondlebe kwibhasi ebandayo kwaye ndiboniswa kwisihloko esiyimfuneko ukuze ndizinike iingcinga, ndicinge ngendlela efanelekileyo. Kodwa kubo bonke umxholo "olungileyo" kuthetha okwahluke ngokupheleleyo. Ngomntu, kulungile ukuba unxile i-vodka kwaye ulale ngentombazana ngengokuhlwa yokuqala. Asizibukela umabonwakude ekhaya, kodwa kutshanje iquka inkqubo enye kunye nenkosikazi yam - babonisa iyelenqe malunga nentombazana enomgangatho womdaniso kunye naye nayiphi na indoda efana naye. Kwaye nantsi ukuba uxelele uhlobo lohlobo lomntu, indlela athanda ngayo ukuyenza ebantwini. Vumelani, le yingxaki yoluntu, kwaye hayi ngqo intombazana. Kutheni thetha naye, mbonise kwiTV? Wawufeza umsebenzi wakhe - wayefuna ukuzukiswa, kwaye ngazo zonke iindleko. Yithi, Leliphi inqanaba lophuhliso lomntu, ukuba ubeka ezo njongo ziphambili phambi kwakhe? Ngaba uyazihlaziya isenzo sabo, ucinga ubuncinci inyathelo lokuya phambili? Ngokungalindelekanga. Ngapha koko, abazali bayayixhasa. Kungangcono ukuba babengengapheleli kwiTV ekhangela yonke inkunkuma, kwaye intombi yabo yayixakekile. Kungenxa yesizathu esithile kubonakala kum, abantwana bam abanazo iingcinga ezinjalo kwixesha elizayo. Ke uhlalutyo kufuneka luzibandakanye kwaye ngamanye amaxesha zibuze ukuba kutheni abanye abantu benobomi obulungileyo, kwaye awukho.
-Ndiyakuqonda ukuba awuzange ube neengxaki zengqondo zengqondo, khange enze isicelo kwiingcali?
-Uyazi, i-psyfu ye-Actor ayizinzanga ngokubanzi. . Ewe, kwaye ngokubanzi, isizukulwana sethu, ovuthuzayo kwaye abadala babalwe ukuba banciphise ii-nineties, ngokungaqhelekanga. Andifuni kuthi usapho lwethu luthande. Umama notata basebenze nzima, kwaye bafuna isiseko sokukhulisa abantwana. Ndaye ndaya esikolweni ndingafumani ulwazi, kodwa ngenxa yokuba kukho inkampani echwayitileyo. Ixesha ke laliyingozi, abantu babulawa kanye ezitratweni. Ubomi ngokwabo bafundiswe ukuba bobukrelekrele, ngononophelo, gcina yonke into kuwe. Kwaye ngoku ndibona ukuvalwa okuthile, ukusondelelana, ukusuka apho kuqaliswa kancinci ukukhululwa. Kodwa kwaphela, akuyomfuneko ukwala ukwamkela ukuba ayifezekanga yonke. Wonke umntu unokuphambuka. Enye into yendlela ezomeleleyo ngayo, zasungula kwaye zinzima ebomini. Emva koko kufuneka usebenze nabo. Ukuba awukwazi ukufumana, jikela kubahlobo be-smart, iingcali.
-Ukuba uqalise ubomi obuzimeleyo kwangethuba. Kwiminyaka elishumi elinesibhozo elahlekelwe zizihlobo zakho: Bazali, dade. Ngubani okanye yintoni ekuncedileyo emva koko?
- Andazi ukuba ubuya kuba njani ubomi bam ukuba bendingenakukuphila. Ndikholelwe kwiLizwi: Iziphelo ezimnyama, kwaye amava akho ukufumana ukuba unokuba luncedo kakhulu. Anditsho ukuba ndinezihlobo ezithe tye. Kodwa umama wayenoodadewethu ababini, umakazi. Nceda okokuqala. Umama ugula iminyaka emibini enesiqingatha, wayenayo iOncology. Kodwa wayengafikelela kum, engenayo ikhosi yesine. Sele ndisebenze ngelo xesha. Yintoni oza kuyithetha? Ngalo naluphi na ubudala, kunzima ukungcwaba abazali, kuba uphulukana neyona isondele kakhulu kwaye ibiza kakhulu. Kodwa ngokomgaqo, ke ngoko indalo ibekwe phantsi kubazali bahambe phambi kwethu. Ke ngoko, umzimba ngandlela thile usenza iphinde idla ubomi ngakumbi.
-Umntu ozimeleyo kwindalo? Kukho abantwana izenimakhaya yasekhaya, inamathele kakhulu kwizalamane zabo.
- Okwangoku, ndandingumntwana wasekhaya, kwaye isitrato saqiniswa. Ungathi, bendineqela lentendelezo. Kwaye ilapha ngaphandle kwayo ingena kwi-palatical. (Uncumo.) Kodwa undikhathalele, njengaye nabani na, kunjalo, uyafuneka. Ke ngoko, thina kunye nomfazi wam sivumile kwangethuba, ndandineminyaka engamashumi amabini ananye. Ndifuna usapho, abantu ababathandayo.
Ndikunye neqabane elena e-kyna elyva kunye neshumi elinanye iminyaka ubudala
Ifoto: Indawo yokuLondolozwa kweKhemi yaseRoma Mayakina
- Kwaye wayengumfazi endala, kunye nabantwana abathathu.
-Lena iminyaka emihlanu ubudala kunam. Emva koko wayeneminyaka engamashumi amabini anesithandathu -, yintoni umntu omdala? Hayi ncma. (Uhleka.) Ewe, kwaye ngoku. Ikuye kwaye inje. Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, kukho inenekazi eliselula elinzima- iyothusa ngokufanelekileyo.
-Ukungena kubudlelwane kunye nebhinqa elinabantwana abathathu, - kwinxalenye yakho yingoma okanye ukungakhathali kobutsha?
Anazi ukuba kwenzeke njani, kwathiwa. Ewe, abantwana babehlanganisana okokuqala, kodwa oku akunto yakum. (Uncumile.) Ngaba ucinga emva koko ndiqiqa ngoxanduva? Ndandihlala noLena, ndandifuna ukuhlala kunye. Ukuba unamadoda amathathu anabantuna, nam, ndilungile? Ngoba kutheni. Kucacile ukuba kukho ubunzima obuthile, kodwa saboyisa kwaye ngoku yonke into inxibelelana ngokungummangaliso. Ngoku ndinabahlobo abathathu abamaziyo omaziyo njengobuntwana bokuqala - upholile! Kuya kufuneka ucinge ngokulunga, kwaye ungaziveli kwi-negative, ungaveli ingozi. Emva koko ngokuqinisekileyo baya kubonakala. Kwaye ngokubanzi, ndiyakholelwa ukuba abantwana bayadingeka njengomzekelo wokuxeliswa, kwaye konke ukuntywila kwemfundo kufuneka kwenziwe. Utata-omelele, enenkathalo, ethembekile, unikelwa-kunikezelwa-nantsi imisebenzi yayo. Ngoku ndiyaqonda ukuba ndiziphatha ngokupheleleyo utata. Hayi ukuba sisithixo sam kunye nomfanekiso wayo oxhonywe kwindawo eludongeni. Kodwa ndiyaphila ngokumnandi kwaye ndokhe ubudlelwane kusapho njengoko benzayo. Kwaye akukho nto inokwenziwa ngayo. Ezi ayisiyomfuza, kodwa ngumzekelo. Ewe, anditshatanga ebantwaneni, bendifuna umfazi ngokwam, hayi umama.
"Kodwa uthe: Ufuna ukhathalelo."
-Yiqinisekile. Ukusweleka kwabazali akudlulanga ngaphandle komkhondo. Kwiminyaka emihlanu ndaphulukana notata, mama nodadewethu. Kwakukho usapho- kwaye ngequbuliso ibingeyiyo. Kucacile ukuba kangangexesha elithile kukho inkqubo yokuhlengahlengiswa. Kwaye inkosikazi yam yandinceda ukuba ndiphume kule meko - nje phambi kwam, ndikhathalele. Phantsi kwegama elithi "ukhathalelo" andithethi ukuba ingaba wayehlamba iisokisi kwaye enqeni. Lo ngumxholo obanzi wokuba uthando kunye nemvakalelo yobushushu, ukhuseleko luthetha.
-Uthethile kolunye udliwanondlebe ukuba iqhawe leli xesha lethu liyi-bastard ehayozelayo ethanda imali ...
-Ungacingi njalo? Ngokoluvo lwam, esi sikhundla sithandwa, ixesha lamagorha akakhethwanga. Imali ikwindawo yokuqala, kwaye ukubaabakufumanisa, abantu baqala ukuhanahanisa. Ifashoni ukuba lula, akukho nto ingenelwa kakhulu. Nditsho nje ukuba ndidlala abalinganiswa-ezifanelekileyo ixesha lethu. Imeko ibhaliwe ngoku abantu abaphilayo, kwaye amaninzi la magorha- buxoki, fake, othetha ukuthini ukufumana izibonelelo zezinto ezibonakalayo. Ewe, vula i-tv-kukho kuphela malunga nayo kwaye bathi umntu ukhohlisile umntu okanye obethe.
- Ngaba amaxesha amabi owaziwa ngu-Elena asinda kwaye aqinisekise ukuba akangekhe akuphose phantsi kwazo naziphi na iimeko?
- Ngapha koko, ekuqaleni inkosikazi yam yayinzima kakhulu kum. Ndandingathandeki kakhulu. (Uncumo.) Kungenzeka ukuba bendingathanda ukujonga ukuba zingaphi iimvakalelo ezinyanisekileyo. Sisoloko sifuna ukuba nje singasifanelanga ngayo nantoni na. Kunye nombili. Le yindlela abazali abasifaka ngayo, kwaye ke sizama ukufumana uthando olufanayo. Ngamanye amaxesha iyenzeka: kubonakala kum ukuba umfazi wam uyandithanda ngam nantoni na. Ngoku, emva kweminyaka elishumi elinanye yokuphila kunye, sele ndiqalile ukufuna into, ndisebenzise, ndiyazi ukuba andizukufumana ndawo kuye. (Uncumo.) Sebenzisa-Ndithetha noncumo, enyanisweni kwaye kufanele ukuba ndibekho kwintsapho. Kunyaka wokuqala, xa sasinomntwana oqhelekileyo, mhlawumbi sasinzima kakhulu. Kwavela ukuba ndiyishiyile ithiyetha, ngokuchanekileyo, ndiye ndahamba. " (Roman kangangeminyaka elishumi isebenze kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga. - Approx. Aute.). Kwakungekho zibonelelo zikhethekileyo kwimovie. Ndathi emva kwekhulu leekhilogramu ezingamashumi amathathu, kwaye, uyazi, uluhlu lwendima lumncinci. Khawufane ucinge: Umntwana omncinci, akasebenzi, amathemba. Ndacinga: yonke into ngumphetho. Kwaye eyona ngxaki iphambili yayisentlokweni yam. Andikholelwa kakhulu kwiimvakalelo zam, ndaqala ukunikezela kwizinto ezimbi zangaphandle. Ke kuye kwenzeka ebomini, akufuneki woyike. Ngamanye amaxesha kufuneka uwele ezantsi ukuze uqhume kuyo.
Ndikunye nenkosikazi ye-on-screen shiya shumakova kwifilimu yobuqhetseba "yobomi obumnandi"
-Ngaba wonke umntu aphelelwe, umntu uhleli kwi-swamp. Ngaba usapho lwakushukumisa?
-Ngaba. Qonda, akukho mntu unokwenza okuthile ukuba enze into ngaphandle kwakhe. Bonke abantu be-egorist eneneni. Into esiyenzayo ebomini, silungiselela kuqala. Kwaye oku kulungile, impilo esempilweni kufuneka ibekhona. Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, ukuba awuyi kuba njalo, awukwazi ukukhathalela abanye. Cinga ngesiqu sakho, kodwa kwangaxeshanye uyazi into oyenzayo ngento oyiyo: Ukuqinisekisa ukuba abantwana bakho bomelele, ukuze abafazi bayakuthanda ukuba nisebenze emsebenzini.
-Khetha ngegorha lexesha lethu. Kodwa awufuni ukuba njalo? Ngokoluvo lwam, unokuqonda kwexabiso lokwenyani.
Andifuni ukuba umntu andiqonde. " Kukho abantu abaliqela ebomini bam - okokuqala kubo bonke inkosikazi yam kunye nabantwana- endifuna ukungqina into. Ngokuphumla, andikhathali nokuba ucinga ntoni. Ndicinga ukuba kuyimfuneko ukuba kwenzeke ukuze isazela asizihlutha. Sukwenza ezinye izinto ongazifuniyo. Yonke into ilula: ukubuthukisa imeko kwaye ubeke endaweni yomnye umntu. Ekuphela kwento andikwazi ukujongana nento, yiyeke ukufunga ezindleleni. Inzulu, ndiyafunga njengomzi, andikwazi ukuzibamba. Ndiqala ukukhwaza, ndingayeka, ndiphelelwe yimoto. Oku, kunokwenzeka, kudluliselwe kuYise. Uhlala enxitywa endleleni. Kwakukho imeko, sahamba nomntu osebenza naye, ndathetha into kuye, ndaqala ukwakha umqolo ofanelekileyo, kwaye ngequbuliso, apho sihamba khona, siye sadibana. Kwaye umqhubi emva koko wandifumana ndaza ndakhwaza ngefestile endikufanele ukuba ndibeke ityala. Apho, andikwazanga ukuthintela kwaye ndivakalise yonke into endicinga ngayo ngaye. Ke kwakungakhululekanga phambi kwentombazana. (Ukuhleka.) Kodwa ukuqhambuka okunjalo kuyafuneka - wonke umntu ubi kakhulu kwimpilo.
"Ke ngoko, kusenokwenzeka ukuba uphile ngaphandle kwesixeko: Apho bazola, bazolile kwaye bancinci.
- Ewe. Kwaye ndiyakuthanda ukwenza into ngezandla zam. Izolo, umzekelo, uPawulos wapeyinta emntwaneni egumbini. Intle kakhulu. Ndicinga ukuba umsebenzi wasemzimbeni kufuneka ubekhona ebomini bomntu, ubungangamela kakuhle bunokucocwa. Kuyimfuneko ukuthumela i-suruties enye kwenye indawo kwithuba lomsebenzi wokwakha. Ndingcono kakhulu kwilali. Makhe ndichithe iiyure ezimbini endleleni, kodwa ngeli xesha ndikwazi ukwakha kwakhona kwinyani ukuya kwenye. Sukutsala iingxaki zokusebenza ekhaya, kunye ne-vice. Ke le yenye indlela yokwenza usapho lwakho wonwabe. Into ephambili kukuba wonke umntu ulungile ekhaya.
-Ungangomntu unebhongo kulo msebenzi?
-Kutheni ukuze uthathe isigqibo sonje?
- Utshilo nje: Eyona nto iphambili kukuba wonke umntu ulungile ekhaya.
- Ngayiphi na imeko, silungiselela izinto eziza kuqala. Ukuba ndikhe ndakhetha phakathi kosapho kunye nomsebenzi, kunjalo, ndikhetha usapho. Andinayo imvakalelo yokuba ngomso ndiza kuyeka ukususwa, ubomi buya kuyeka. Mhlawumbi kwiminyaka emibini ndiza kuba yi-bartender kwaye ndiza kuba yi-buzz. Abanye nje baguquke ubomi babo ukuba basebenze, abasakwazi ukucinga enye into. Ewe kunjalo, xa kukho isidingo sokuxoxa ngeengxaki, sibonisana, siyenzela nomfazi wam. Ukuba kuyanceda ngandlela ithile ngokusombulula umsebenzi-kakuhle. Kodwa umsebenzi kufuneka kuqala uzisa imali endlwini. Pholile kakhulu xa wenze ishishini lakho olithandayo kwaye ungayifumana. Ndinamabhongo, kwaye ndizama ukuthatha amanyathelo athile okuphuhlisa umsebenzi. Kodwa ukuba ndingavunyelwanga indima, ayisoloko ithetha ukuba ndingumlingisi ombi, zininzi izinto zangaphandle. Mhlawumbi namhlanje umlawuli wokuphosa indoda ifana kakhulu nam? (Uhleka.)
Kwimifanekiso kamovie "ngaphandle kwemida", umRoma wayifumana indima enkulu
- Utsho ngokulula ukuba banokutshintsha lo msebenzi, kwaye uninzi lwabahlobo bakho bathetha ngomsebenzi, i-mission enkulu.
-Ugxam bathetha ngezinto ezininzi zokubonakala ngathi bakhethekile, abathunywa bakaThixo. Ndandisebenza iminyaka elishumi kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga, kodwa anditsho ukuba ndingathanda ukuchitha ubomi bam bonke kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga kwaye ndiliphathe njengomthunywa. Ukwenza ukuba i-crafti efanayo ifuna ukuba ifikeleleka. Kwaye esona sixhobo siphambili kulo msebenzi. Isityebi, amava obomi anzulu, onomdla ngakumbi kwaye uyakholelwa ukuba ungumdlali weqonga. Kwaye ukuba into ayisosiyo, iyimfuneko ekutyhafiseni kuqala kuzo zonke. Ayisiyonto yonke, ngokuqinisekileyo, ixhomekeke kuthi, kunokubakho imeko engathandazwayo okanye umlawuli engayi kucacisa ngokupheleleyo umsebenzi, kodwa ubuso beprojekthi ngabadlali. Ndayeka ukubukela umsebenzi wethu. Nangona kufanelekile ukuba kwenziwe ukuqonda ukuba uza kuphakanyiswa.
-Ungabi nalo ulwalamano olukhethekileyo kuwe ngokunxulumene nomsebenzi?
- Mhlawumbi akunjalo. Ukuba ndidiniwe emva kokutshintsha, ndiye kulala. Ndiphumla nabantwana. Ntweni kwaye uthatha yonke indawo. Ngokubanzi, iholide yam kukutshintshelwa kohlobo olunye lomsebenzi ukuya kwenye.
- Njengomntu wokwenene, wakhe indlu ngokwakho. Ngubani okufundise ukwakhiwa?
-Impazamo zam. Notata, kunjalo. Indlu esiphila kuyo ngoku, waqalisa nokwakha. Ndamjonga, ngoku ke unyana wam undijongile. Into esiyenzayo kuye. Ewe akukho nto inzima. Eyona nto ibaluleke kakhulu ekuqaleni. Njengoko ndandiqala ukupeyinta umgangatho izolo - kwaye kukho izikwere ezingamashumi amathathu anesihlanu, kwaye kufuneka ndibethelele kwi-harnish yonke, yeza entweni. Lingakanani ixesha endiqhele ukwenza le nto ?! Apha ibhodi enye sisiqingatha seyure, kunye amakhulu amabini kubo! Intanda ifakiweyo, nomsebenzi obilisiweyo. Ke musa ukoyika nantoni na kwaye ufake uhlobo oluthile lwezakhelo ngokwakho.
- Ucinga ntoni, ziziphi iimpawu ekufuneka ziphuhliswe kumakhwenkwe, ufundise?
-Uxanduva lwakwindawo yokuqala. Sinengxaki ethile eluntwini. Oku kususela kumaxesha empikiswano enkulu yelizwe eliqaqambileyo, isiqingatha sabemi besiduliso bafa, kwaye ilizwe lakhuliswa lilizwe. Amakhwenkwe akhula ngelo xesha wabona umzekelo wamanina onamandla angathandana naye. Indima yendoda yahamba ngasemva. Kwaye abafazi ngoku baqala ukwenza imisebenzi yamadoda, izithuba eziphezulu zihlala, oomongameli babalekayo. Kodwa ngaphakathi kwethu siphila ngokwemvelo: Ndikuzisa uMammoti, kwaye udale usapho kunye nam. Ukanti, umfazi kufuneka abe yeyamntu. Ndifuna ukukhulisa uxanduva kunyana wam: Yonke into elungile ebomini okanye imbi yenzeka, - umba wezandla zakhe. Akukho sidingo sokugxekwa nabani na ongaphumeleli, umfazi wam okhusela. Ukusuka kwibhinqa kuxhomekeke kakhulu, unendoda. Kodwa uxanduva kwisenzo ngasinye kufuneka sithwale ngokwakho.