I-Evgeny Anthropov ibiza ithamsanqa, kodwa kwangaxeshanye ithathe yonke into eyenzekileyo kuye ngokwemvelo - ukusukela ebumntwana kwakufuneka kwifilimu. Ubonakala emncinci kakhulu kumashumi amathathu anesibini, nangona ebona into enkulu njengomntu osemdala kunye nomntu onoxanduva onoxolo olunoxolo. Ewe, inkwenkwe, eyayihlala kuyo, imvumela ukuba abandakanywe kumdlalo ekudubeni nasekunxibelelaneni ngokulinganayo kunye noonyana bakhe bobabini. Konke oku - kudliwanondlebe nemagazini "moya".
-U-Eugene, umuscovite. Kukholelwa ukuba amaphondo awenza kube lula ukugqobhoza. Ngaba ukhe waziva umahluko nabanye abafundi - uNonoshvichi?
- I-Velentin emnyama kwincwadi yakhe ethi "I-Mscow ayikholelwa kwincwadi yakhe ethi" Wabhala ukuba iMuscovtes ayizange ithande i-muscovtes, le kwaye baxelelwa ukuba batyholwa, bengamashishini. Emva koko i-muscovtes yothusa. Njengoko intombi yam itsho, 'ngabantwana abaluhlaza ", kuba amaphondo ahlala ehostele, kufuneka atye, ahlukane, kwaye azama ukujongana nawo. Kwaye thina, iMuscovtes, sinendlu apho izondyo zihamba khona kwaye zihambe. Ke ngoko, nokuba unenjongo, akukho nto ibaluleke kakhulu kwaye kufuneka ifezekise. Ukufika kwam kwindima yokuqala yesithathu, andizange ndibone nasiphi na isimanga- ndihambe kuyo. Kufana nomatshini wawufunda umsebenzi wakhe kwaye wafumana ukukhululwa. Kubonakala kum ukuba amaphondo ahlawuliswe uloyiso, kodwa ndomelele kakhulu. Khange ndivele okokuqala kwaye ndacaphuka kakhulu ukuba kuya kufuneka ndihlale ngaphandle kokufunda.
-Kukhathazeka kuphela ?! Kwakukho ukuzithemba ukuba ungayenza? Wenza ntoni unyaka?
-Upopu wayenevenkile encinci yezemidlalo eKuzeminakh, ndiye ndasebenza apho ngumthengisi. Emva kokusilela, ukuzithemba, ngokuchasene noko, kwandiswa. Ngokwenza okwesibini, ndondla ingqumbo, ndacinga ukuba: "Ewe, ungubani na ukuba ungandinikeli ukuba ndibandakanyeke kwisithandwa sakho ?!" Ndandinomsindo omkhulu, bendibhekisa kum, ndinyanzelekile ukuba ndenze. Kwaye lo rhabaza undinika inkuthazo entle. Ndiyavuya ukuba ndimelwe kukuba ndifikelele eGitis, kwi-Leonid Efimovich heifets, ubeka isiseko esinamandla esisebenzayo. Nangona eyona nto iphambili kukuba itya kulo msebenzi, - amava, kunye nokuyila, kunye nobomi.
-Nguphi na ekufuneka uthathe ivalo lobomi kumfana?
- Ngokuqinisekileyo, iza nobudala. Kodwa kwenzeka into kuye wonke umntu - kunye namava amava othando, kunye nedrama kusapho okanye kwizalamane, abahlobo abasondeleyo. Yenzeka, wena udlula kumabali anzima kakhulu, nkqu namabali okonwaba ebutsheni. Emva kokufunyanwa, ndahamba nomntu endifunda naye kwi-Alwasheta. Ngaphambi koko, uMama Mama, umakhulu wam, ogulayo ngumhlaza, oziva kakubi. Ndamthanda kakhulu. I-Mobiless ke sele injalo, kodwa uqhagamshelo lwaluluxabisa indawo, kwaye saya kwiposi phantse yonke imihla eMoscow. Ndibuze ukuba izinto zifana njani nogogo. Ndaxelelwa ukuba yonke into ilungelelene. Utata, umama nomntakwenu, ongaphantsi kweminyaka emine wafika esitishini ukuya kudibana nam. Sisondela ekungeneni, utata uhamba nomninawa wam ukuba babeke imoto, kwaye sibiza i-ofcalator nomama, siza ngenxa yesizathu esithile ngaphandle kokukhanya. Kwaye kule ndawo yenyusi emnyama ndiye ndabuza: "Mama, ungumakhulu njani?" "Kwaye uphendula athi:" UZhen, ugogo wasweleka wesibini ngo-Agasti. " Yiloo mini xa ndifika elwandle. Abazange bathethe nto kum ukuze ndiphumle kakuhle. Ke kwakubonakala ngathi ukuwacinezela amehlo akhe, nayo yonke into, kwaye emva kweentsuku ezintathu ndabambana nengcinga yokuba, xa ndifika kumgangatho wamashumi amathathu anesibhozo, mna soze ivule umnyango umfazi omncinci ongwevu. Kwaye ndaphukile nje. Kwaye uninzi lwayo luhlazo kangangokuba akandibona kwiimuvi. Ndiyayazi indlela avuya ngayo ngumsebenzi wam. Ingakumbi kuba silula usapho olulula.
"Ndifundile ngokufa kukamakhulu wam - iliso labonisa, kwaye yiyo loo nto. Kwaye emva kweentsuku ezintathu wafumana ingcinga yokuba ibhinqa elincinci elingwevu alisoze livule"
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- Wenza ntoni uMama notata?
-Utata ugqibile esikolweni ephakathi. Kodwa wasebenza apha, emva koko, kwii-Nineties, wazama ukulungiselela ishishini elincinci, emva koko wavula ivenkile, emva koko wathatha umhlala phantsi. Umama jikelele kuphela kwimfundo yesibini, umfazi uphila indlu. Kodwa wamkela i-cinema yeSoviet kwaye iifilimu ezininzi zibukele kwiTV. Uxelele ukuba kwiminyaka esibhozo ndinayo imuvi oyithandayo - "Abahlobo abathembekileyo". Sasinekhasethi kunye naye, ndayibeka kwaye ndajonga, ndakhangela ... Abaphumeleleyo "banye" nabahlobo bokwenene. Nokuba baphatha njani into, basaya kumhlobo ukuze bancede, baxhalelene omnye komnye, basindisa ubomi.
-Ubavunywa ngokulula "abaphumeleleyo"?
-I-Donstantinov i-Konstantinov yabhala kum ngendima yeZavara, kuba siyazana ixesha elide, uyandithanda. Kodwa ndingalahlekelwa yile projekthi, kuba xa i-KonsTantinov ishiye isikhundla sikasiya, ndayayazi incoko endiyifunayo. Ndakhawuleza ndafuna ukuya kuMlawuli omtsha, ukumhlala eludongeni ndisithi: "Ndibonise, uzokuthatha ukuba uza kuyidlala iZavarzina ?!" (Kuhleka.) Kodwa ke umlawuli watshintsha kwakhona kwaye yonke into yehla.
- Ngaba ulunge kumabali athile omeleleyo ukubonisa into ethile okanye abanye?
-Ndilula kakhulu ukuya "ebuthathaka." Kodwa ngoku andinakukhumbula into ikhonkrithi. Izihlandlo ezibini zitsiba neparachute, kodwa akukho mntu une-podntokoval, mna ngokwam ndihambile - bendicinga ukuba i-jumper ibeke uloyiko. Khange uyeke. (Zihleka.) Ngokubanzi, ifashoni njengomceli mngeni endikuyo, basebenza ngengxaki. Kwaye oku akusebenzi kungekuphela nje kwindima. Ihlala ibonakala ngathi "unako- awunakuthi", kwaye ndiqokelele kwangoko. Ukuba ufuna ukufumana into kum, ke kufuneka ndicaphukise. (Uncumo.)
-Umntu, ngaba ubonakale kwiimpawu zesifo senkanyezi?
- Hayi hayi. Nangona babethwa zii-buddies, ukuba ngandlel 'ithile emva komfanekiso wokuqala. Ngokuchasene noko, ndandinemali, kwaye ndingaphakamisa idenari- hayi kwigxalaba eligxekayo, "kwi-guyri", kodwa nje ndifuna ukunika. Kwaye utshintsho lwalusisiqwenga sephepha eliya ngokuchanekileyo. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku andikhange ndibedlezi, ndaphathwa ngawo onke amaziko njengento yokugqibela: Ndidinga ukuphila, ndife ... Ke, akukho nto isebenze. Kwaye xa ndandiqala ukwenza into, sele iza kwiZiko kunye nokuzinza. Ndiyakhumbula, "Oodade abathathu" baphinda babhaptizwa - bendikwimeko ehlaziyiweyo, kwaye umphathi wathi ngalo lonke ixesha: "Bedlala ngokugqibeleleyo." Kungenxa yokuba okokuqala ebomini bam bekukho ukukhululeka kwaye ndizithembe.
"Ndihlala ndingafuni ukuthengisa icuba, cela ukubonisa incwadana yokundwendwela. Iminyaka yam ingamashumi amathathu anesibini ubudala, kodwa andiziva nto."
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- Kwenzeka ntoni kuwe emva kwendima yokuqala yokuqala?
Ngaphandle kwento. Umsebenzi wokuqala yayiyimitha epheleleyo, kwaye wonke umntu wathi: "Indoda endala, ewe, ngoku, yonke into, uvuka ..." Kwaye andizange ndibenemvakalelo, ndiyathemba ukuba ngoku iya kunika umsebenzi emsebenzini. Kwaye xa oku kungenzekanga, ndacinga: "Isimanga, sidlale indima enkulu, kwaye akukho nto itshintshileyo." Kodwa ngokuthe ngcembe iiprojekthi zaya, kubandakanya okuhle, kwaye kubaluleke kakhulu, zahlukile. Ukwazi nge-dima konstantinov kunye nentsebenziswano naye kwaye u-Alana Zvankeva, umfazi wakhe, kumfanekiso "DounBye, oyithandayo" wandizisa ulonwabo.
Ngaba uyazi ukuba ungavuyela ukungasebenzi kuphela?
- Ndizamile. Umzekelo, ndiyavuya xa kubhalwa umbongo. Ndiyayithanda indalo; Kumnandi xa ndingahlala kwenye indawo ethe cwaka okanye ndisela ikofu elungileyo ekuseni. Ndiyavuya ukuba ndivuke, kwaye ilanga likhanya esitratweni ukuba namhlanje ndinosuku lokuphuma okanye, ngokuchaseneyo, ekugqibeleni ndiya kuchitha ixesha elininzi kwinkampani yabantu abanentliziyo efanayo. Ndiyakonwabela into endiyixelele i-anecdote ekudubuleni, waphakamisa wonke umntu, waphakamisa imvakalelo, kwaye wawusekuhleni. Nditsho nento entle enokukwenza ukuba ube nesitayile unokuyonwabela.
-Ungathi ngokwakho ukuba unethamsanqa?
-Ndicinga, ewe, ngokokuba iimeko zigcinwe kakhulu kangangokuba i-hoolet-hook - nayo yonke into iye yenzekile. Ukufika kwam eAlexey Mizneiv kwiisampulu "zeflengi", ifilimu yam yokuqala, wandibuza, ukuba ndithetha ibinzana elinye, latsho ngendlela engaqhelekanga. Ndaphendula ndathi ewe, kuba ndiyifunde eDovlatov. Yathi: "Akukho namnye owaziyo, uyazi, ulungile." Yayingomnye dibanisa, ndavunywa. Ndazilambela kwifilimu yakhe, kwaye ndaphawula uYusuf Bakhshiyev kwaye wabiza "i-antikiller". Kwaye emva koko ndadibana no-Alena Zvankeva, kwaye iindima zaqala ukubhala indima - le nethamsanqa. Nangona, kwelinye icala, iipateni ubukhulu becala.
-Ubhala imibongo. Kwaye ukuqale njani, kutheni?
-Iminyaka elishumi elinantathu ubudala ndabhala umbongo wokuqala kwisiqwengana sephepha. Kwaye kutsha nje bendinokuhlwa kwimibongo kwenye ye-cafe. Ndibhale ngalo lonke ixesha etafileni, emva koko uLena Manokhova, wafunda eYudeshoshosho kwi-Gitis, waphosa isikhalo kwiNethiwekhi yentlalo: "abadlali! Ngubani obhala imibongo ... " Le ayisiyondawo yam yokuthula-Funda imibongo yakho eluntwini. Kodwa ndagqiba kwelokuba. Okothusayo kukuba, ndaqala ukubhala ngesiNgesi, nangona wayemfundisa esikolweni kuphela kwaye enaye. Kubonakala ngathi kum nge-Russian kuya kuba bubunzi, kodwa ngentetho yesiNgesi. Ifana nebali elineengoma ezintetho isithetha isiNgesi: Zintle, kodwa zibadluliselwe kwiRussia-yonke into, ngo. Ndihleli nesichazi-magama ndikhangela amazwi okuveza ingcinga yam, ndise imibongo kutitshala olwimi lwesiNgesi, kunye neparadox- engazifumani iimpazamo, nangona ndandinegama elilinganiselweyo. Kwaye emva koko waqalisa ukubhala ngesiRashiya, okokuqala ngqa ngamatye, kwaye imvano-siphelo sele ihambile.
-Ucinga ntoni, njengomlingisi kunye nembongi, kutheni le nto iphela itales ezilungileyo, ke kukho ubudlelwane obuhle bothando, kwaye namabali osapho omeleleyo?
-Ukuphila ixesha elide- le ibali le-condonance. Le ayisiyo-halves, zonke zanele. Ukuba ngokwenene usendleleni, uya kuhlala kunye. Ndiyathandabuza ukuba i-chemistry inokuhamba. Inokuguqulwa, iphakame kwaye inyamalale, kodwa ihlala iluhlobo lwebali le-retarkovskaya. Indoda ayinakuyeka ukuthandela lo mfazi ukuba uyamthanda. Utata noMama baphila ngovuyo ngaphandle kweminyaka engamashumi amathathu.
"Utshilo, usapho lwakho aluhambelani nobugcisa, kuphela umama uhlala ethanda iifilimu." Kutheni uthathe isigqibo sokuba wenza into oyithandayo?
-Sifundo kwiklasi yokuzivocavoca, bendidlala kwi "ye-soooro". Utitshala wesiNgesi wandinika indima encinci. Kwaye emva koko kwipaseji besitsho ngequbuliso: "Yiya kubadlali, yeyakho." Ndicinga ukuba ndidluliselwe kwiimfuza ezinamandla kuBawo. Ungumdwebi wobugcisa nje. Xa sasihamba eTurkey kunye naye, izihlwele kunye namadoda zazijikeleza kuye, nabafazi: Usazi amawaka eendawo zokudibanisa, amahlaya, ezehlisayo, kwaye unomtsalane omangalisayo.
- Kwaye wagqiba nini ukuba ngumdlali weqonga, uPopu wavuya?
-Umota wathandabuza, kodwa mhlawumbi ukukhawuleza ndiphule. Ngokukodwa kunyaka wokuqala, xa ndingazange ndenze, kwakukho inkanuko yakhe. Ndicinga ukuba ngandlel 'ithile yatsho ngokungazi, kodwa ndincedile nje. Umama wayehlala ekholelwa kum. Uyavuya, kodwa ke uyakugqala njengesiqhelo, ukuba uNyana usebenza emcobweni, kuba akayibali elimangalisayo. Akaxeleli wonke umntu ngokulandelelana ukuba unaye unyana, lo utata uya kuba esithi, Yindoda enemvakalelo kakhulu. Umama wam wenza ngesidima: "Ewe, ewe, ewe, ewe, iyasebenza" (iyasebenza), hayi ngokuhoya, kodwa inekratshi langaphakathi.
-Ujongeka mncinci kakhulu. Uziva iminyaka emingaphi?
"Ndihlala ndingafuni ukuthengisa icuba, ndicela ukuba ndibonise incwadana yokundwendwela, ndide ndibuze kwixesha lokuqala:" Ngaba uyayithetha kakhulu ukuba ndineminyaka elishumi elinesixhenxe ubudala? ". Uphendule ke kum kukuba ngoku kukho umntu oneminyaka elishumi elinesixhenxe ubudala efuna amashumi amathathu. Ndingamashumi amathathu anesibini, kodwa andiziva bona ngokubanzi, ngaphandle kwamava amagxa am. Kwaye okwangoku, kutsha nje ukutshintsha imvakalelo ngokwayo kwindawo nakwixesha, ukuqonda kwexabiso lolo mzuzu kwaye ubomi buvele. Akusekho imvakalelo yokuba ulele kwaye uvuke, kwaye ulungile, kwaye iya kuba yenye iminyaka elikhulu yonke imihla. Hayi, iya kwahluka. Ewe, kukho uxanduva lwabantwana nabazali.
- Emva kokuzalwa kwamazibulo, ngaba ukhule?
Yonke into yayizolile ngandlela ithile, engaqhelekanga. Ngokwemvelo, ubomi butshintshile, kuba umntu omncinci wabonakala, onoxanduva lwalo lonke ubomi bam. Kwaye le yimvakalelo entsha; Kwakreqa kuye yonke imihla. Kodwa kwangoko akunakwenzeka ukuba uqonde- mhlawumbi kuba ngumsitho ongummangaliso. Akuqondi ukuba kutheni ekhwaza, indlela yokuyibeka, ibeke ulala, kodwa ngokuthe ngcembe uqhela. Kwaye xa uqhela, uyaqonda ukuba ngaphandle komntu ngoku awunakukwazi. Kodwa nje ukuba ngequbuliso ndisithi kwi-bass (ehleka) okanye yaba nzulu kwaye kubalulekile, akenzekanga.
- Kutheni le nto unyana wokuqala kaPetros wokuqala wabizwa?
-Unyulwe nje uzuko lompostile. Ngasihlandlo sithile, bendicinga ukuba ukuba ndinonyana ababini, kuya kuba kuhle ukuba babe nomehluko omncinci, babehamba kunye esikolweni besithi: "Afika abapostile." Kwaye banomahluko kwiminyaka emibini kunye noKopecks, abadala bebeneminyaka emihlanu ubudala. Sasinyula umntwana wesibini, kodwa ndaye ndaqonda ukuba ayisindiwanga; kukho uPetros, makabe nguPawulos. Bahambelana, kwaye kulungile. Banabalinganiswa abohlukeneyo ngokupheleleyo, enye ilula, enye iqinile. Umdala uchukumisa ifiziksi, umncinci - amazwi, nangona kuyintsingiselo yepeyinti. (Uhleka.)
"Ubomi obude-eli libali lezinto. Zonke zanele, kodwa ukuba usendleleni, uya kuhlala kunye."
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- Leliphi ixesha labantwana elikhululekile ngakumbi okanye linomdla ngakumbi ukunxibelelana nabo?
-Ihlala inomdla. Kubonakala ngathi imincinci kwaye ayiqondi nantoni na, ayinakukuphendula, kodwa yonke imvakalelo engathandekiyo. Abantwana bayathanda xa bebona abazali abathandanayo. Ukuba ndiye kwenye indawo, bafuna ukuhamba nam ukuba ndijonga into - hlala kufutshane.
- Abanye babadlali bodwa baxelela ukuba umbuzo awathanda ukuba ngubani - inkwenkwe okanye intombazana, ngaphandle kokucinga ukuba uphendule ngehelikopta elawulwa ngunomathotholo ...
- Xa abantwana bevela, uye kwiLizwe labantwana 'ngezizathu zomthetho. (Ukuhleka.) Nangona ungumdala kwaye ungathenga nayiphi na into yokudlala, kodwa xa kukho izizathu ezibini, inye into. Kubonakala ngathi uya kuzithenga, kodwa nawe nawe. Andithandabuzi ukuba ndicinge ukuba kungekudala siza kudlala kunye kwimidlalo enjalo.
-Unyana wokuqala wazalwa xa ukwiseti. Kunye nomzuzwana ... Ngaba ubukade ukho ngalo mzuzu?
-UPeter wazalwa xa sikwisibhakabhaka nge-Konstantinov 'ngesono ". Kwaye uPawulos - xa ndandisekhaya, emva kweprojekthi. Kodwa bendingekho ngokuzalwa kwakhe kwaye andikhange ndicinge ngayo. Ndiyazi ukuba abaninzi ngoku bayayenza le nto, kodwa phambi kokuba abantu babengavunyelwanga ukuba basebenze. Ngale ndlela, ndikhule ngokwesiko.
-Kwenzela umsebenzi - amadoda?
-Inye intombi yam ithi ayingabantu. Njengomntu endindibonisayo ukuba ndindithuke. Ndicinga ukuba umsebenzi wokubamba ngumntu oyindoda, ukuba kuphela kuba yayiyindoda kuphela. Kwaye iqaqambile, ngakumbi ukuba ngaba ziyimikhosi, i-fantasy. Ndidinga umsebenzi, kuba kufuneka kwaye unganika amandla endinawo kakhulu. Ukuba awuniki, uqala 'ukutya "malungana nabanye, okokuqala kubo bonke abantu ababathandayo. Ewe, beneminyaka yobudala, funda ngokwakho, kodwa xa kungekho msebenzi ixesha elide, andinakuphumla, ndiye ndicaphuke kwaye ndinoloyiko, ngelishwa. Ndiyabuthanda ubunzulu balo msebenzi: Ngomnye wobomi bam unokuphila ubomi obuninzi. Kubalulekile ukuba ndiqonde ukuba kuqala umntu, emva koko umculi. Kwaye ukuba kwisakhelo ekufuneka ususe itafile, awunakulinda abasebenzi abazayo.