I-Pavel Delong yindawo ecocekileyo, kodwa ixesha elide ithathwa njengomlingisi wenqanaba lamanye amazwe. Ngasihlandlo sithile, wayeqeshelwe nangakumbi ePoland, kwisiRashiya esinye, eMelika, eFrance namanye amazwe eYurophu. Namhlanje, uPaul uzama ukuba kwilizwe lakhe ubeneziprojeki ezingaphezulu kwaye engcono. Kodwa, njengoko yena uyavuma, kuyavela njengoko iphuma. Ke ngoko, xa esenza ukophule, isandla sakhe sazolula kwincwadi, esithatha umhlobo osenyongweni.
-Um ngandlel 'ithile upapashe iposti ukuba isandla solule isandla sokuthenga iincwadi, nangona amashavu endlwini baphukile kubo. Ngaba ungumntu ongoyena mntu?
- Owu, ewe, ewe! Kwaye uza kuthatha phi yonke into, ukuba akuveli kwiincwadi? Ifikelela phi ilizwe? Ngokungathandabuzekiyo, amava obomi, isikolo esinike kakhulu kudala sigqityiwe, ke le ncwadi ingumthombo othile wolwazi. Le yi-spark. Namhlanje, iincwadi endizithengayo, okanye ndikhangela, zonke zihambelana nomxholo othetha malunga ne-thestoo enkulu yeXebhu yeXebhu. Kuyo ukuba ndibhaptize ngokupheleleyo kwaye ndiyayithanda ngayo. Kwaye iqhagamshelwe kwinto yokuba ngoku ndiyilungiselela iprojekthi. Ndibhala iskripthi kunye nomntu endisebenza naye. Oku kukuqhubeka kwembali yefilimu yam yokuqala, endiyisusile, "Nyana SABLI." Kwakhe, ngendlela, kubonisiwe eRashiya. Nazi ezi ncwadi ndizifundileyo ngoku. Bayazifuna. Kwaye, ewe, ndisasebenza nababhali-mbali, bandinceda kakhulu. Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, ulwazi kufuneka lufunyenwe kwintshayelelo enyanisekileyo yalo mxholo unzima. Kwaye ke iincwadi ziifestile zangaphambili, ukuya kwikamva, okwangoku. Kwaye ukuba sifuna ukuziqonda ngokwakho, qondani ilizwe elijikeleze, live, liphile, iincwadi zokukunceda. Andicingi nto ingcono kunezincwadi, asiyi kufumana. Kwaneemovie ezinokukhuthaza, oku akunjalo. Ifilimu iya kuhlala kuphela iiyure ezimbini, kwaye sifunda incwadi yeveki okanye ezimbini. Oku kwahlukile. Sinxibelelana ngokobuqu noMbhali, kunye nehlabathi lakhe, awayiqalayo. Kwaye okona kubaluleke kakhulu, siya kuzikhetha kwaye sinike iqokobhe lethu amagorha. Ezinjalo, yintoni esibabona kuphela. Incwadi sisixhobo somlingo, umatshini wexesha. Kwaye oku kulungile. Kwaye ke, ibalulekile, iincwadi zilungile ukuba zihlale ezandleni zakho. Ezi ziimvakalelo ezimangalisayo. Xa ndifuna ukuya kwenye indawo, ndiye ndayifunga ingcinga: "NguThixo wam, usafuna ikhilogramu yeencwadi ezintathu kunye nawe." Kwaye oku, kunjalo, akukho nto iphazamisayo. Ke mna ndine-iPad, kodwa andiyithandi. Akandiniki naluphi na ulonwabo lwetapile. Ngenxa yoku, izindlu zam zilala naphi na. Ndicinga ukuba sele kuyimfuneko ukuxhoma iishelufu ezintsha. Sele kule ntsasa bendicinga ngayo xa nditsalela ingqalelo kwinto yokuba kumgangatho ubuxoki malunga neencwadi ezimashumi mane.
- Kwaye ngubani owakuvavanya ukufunda?
- Ha ha ha ha, ubuKomanisi. Nzulu. Xa yayikwi-80s engaphumli ePoland, bendifuna ukumbambe kwenye indawo. Sasithandwa ngabanye ababhali abalungileyo. Omnye wabo yayinguHenrich Senkevich. Ndamgqonga "nekrele nekrele", "abaCRUSERS", "umkhukula", kwaye "entlango nasehlaleni" ndazifunda ngokwam. Ndayicinga ngokwakhe. Ngapha koko, ndandineminyaka esibhozo kuphela ubudala, kwaye le ncwadi yayinkulu, inqatha. Ndaze ndangena kwiLizwe loMlingo lwabanye ababhali. Kum, mna, iAngel Sapkovks savulelwa, owabhala "obhale" i-Witcher ", ngoku ewazisa kwasekuqaleni i-80s, kodwa sele simazi uthotho lweencwadi malunga neNdayinti, inkwenkwe ekwishumi elivisayo, ngubani Utata wakhe wayethatha inxaxheba kwi-Advents kuzo zonke iimbombo zomhlaba ukusukela ekuqaleni kwenkulungwane yama-20. Ngapha koko, iqhawe lalilwelela iPoland. Ngokubanzi, yonke into yawa kwiqela elinye elikhulu. (Kuhleka.) Kodwa esikolweni, xa kwakuyimfuneko ukufunda uncwadi lwehlabathi ePoland, ndihlala ndilivila. Nangona ezinye iincwadi zandivuyisa. Ngendlela, iincwadi ziqale kakuhle kum ukuze ndingene kwihlabathi le-cinema, kwihlabathi leSpielberg enye, endandiqala nje ukuphuma. Iyinkosi kwiincwadi endaziqala ukuyikhupha. Ndifumene i-windows yam, ilandelwa nge-adventure, ubomi obahlukeneyo. Ndingayiva ngenye indlela, nzulu, inyani. Kwaye enye into ebaluleke ngakumbi: isizukulwana sam sasinomnqweno omkhulu, iphupha, ukuze siphile kwihlabathi eliqhelekileyo, njengaseNtshona, kwabonakala ngathi. Kodwa namhlanje inkqubo yaseNtshona isebenza kwihlabathi liphela. Kwaye ngoku kuye kwakho umnqweno ontsonkothileyo-fumana enye i-niche. Kwaye iincwadi ezikule nto ziya kunceda.
-Umfazi, kwaye unyana wakho uPawulos walubona uthando kwiincwadi?
-Ewe, uyafunda. Kuyinyani, into yeyakho. Andazi nokuba yintoni. Kodwa yayihlala injalo, izizukulwana ezitsha zazifuna ababhali babo abatsha. Kodwa, ngokungathi kungakhathazeki, bahlala beqalisa ngeeklasikhi. Ndandihlala ndinomdla kwaye kwandinika imbeko enkulu kubuchule boncwadi lweRussia. Kodwa oku akuthandwa kakhulu ePoland kwisizukulwana sangoku. Ndiyoyika ukuba abayazi kakhulu. Akukho xesha. Ii-smartphones ngesandla. Ulwazi olufutshane. I-Gadgets ngokomgaqo kwenye indawo irhoxisa abantu ekubeni ngabafundi abanzulu. Kodwa ndiyathemba ukuba kusekho abantu abafundayo yinxalenye ebalulekileyo yobomi babo.
"Ukuba sifuna ukuziqonda, siqonde umhlaba ujikeleze, sive, siphile, iincwadi zokukunceda"
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- Wenza ntoni uPawulos? Ndivile ukuba ikwanxulunyaniswa nemovie, kodwa ingenguye umlingisi.
Ewe, akangomdlali, wenza imilingo yokuba ngumlimi, abe kwindawo yabo yokusingqongileyo. Usafuna into anomdla kwinto ayifunayo ebomini kunokuba ufuna ukuyenza.
- Thatha inxaxheba kwikamva lakhe? Ihlala idibana?
-Ndiyamkela, kodwa oku sele kuyenzeka. Uza kuthetha notata wakho, isidlo sangokuhlwa, dibana, okanye uhambe kunye ukuba uphumle, qaphela iiholide zethu kunye. Ewe kunjalo, sinobomi bethu bobuqu. Kodwa, ngelishwa, ngoku phantse wonke umntu uhlala eyedwa ngenxa ye-coronavirus. Ke ngoko, iziganeko zethu ezidibeneyo esinokuthi sibe nenxaxheba kuye: ukuya kwiimuvi, ndwendwela iindawo zemidlalo, khethe iikonsathi, ziphumle kwiholide, zirhoxisiwe, azikho. Ngoku sinobomi basekhaya. Kodwa uthanda ukupheka ukutya. Ungumpheki olungileyo, ngoku ulinde izimemo zakhe ukuba zityelele. Enkosi, ukukhunjuzwa, ndimcela namhlanje ngentombazana. (Uhleka.)
-Uvuma ukuba ebuntwaneni eKrakow yayiyard hooligan, yintoni efanayo?
- I-Hooligan yindawo yokuyibala. Eyona nto inokwenzeka, bendiyimfesane ngendalo. Kwakuyimfuneko ukulwa nje nolutsha, awayengabahlobo bakhe, wadlala. Enkosi, saba nolutsha olukhulu lweyadi. Besibandakanyekile kwezemidlalo, sada saqokelela ukhuphiswano lwezemidlalo sezemidlalo ekuqaleni kwabasibhozo, xa iPoland yayikwimeko yemfazwe. Kodwa umhlaba wabantu abadala akazange asichukumise, nangona sonke sasiyinto enkulu. Kwaye sanxibelelana ukuba asisesikolweni, emva koko yadi. Bekukuhle kakhulu. Ngokomgaqo, hayi umama, hayi utata, hayi icawe, kunye neyadi indivuselekile. Kodwa hayi ngengqondo yokuba singuMooligani apho, sasinabafana abathobelayo. Ihlala igoduka, yahlanjwa, ihlanjwe, ifundwe. Kwaye emva koko ndaya kweyona midlalo. Kwaye umdlalo kum yayilikhaya lesibini. I-Volleyball, Ibhola ekhatywayo, iimbaleki zokukhanya, ndiziqhelanisa kakhulu. Yayiyinxalenye yesibini yobomi bam.
- Kwaye namhlanje kuya kufuneka ujongane nendawo phantsi kwelanga?
- rhoqo. Ngalo lonke ixesha xa ndijonga abantu abancinci abathanda kakhulu, ndiyathanda ukuba banekamva, banokuthelekiswa nencwadi esabhalwe ngayo. Banethemba kunye nokuzithemba entliziyweni ukuba ingomso liya kuba ngcono kunamhlanje. Bonke abantu abadala kunye nabantu abadala bangena ebomini babo, nangaphezulu ngaphezulu, entloko. Ikamva labo lihlambe. Kwaye babuhlungu, njengenqanawa zobugcisa, imixholo egulayo. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukugcina indawo ngaphakathi komntwana wam, esasiphela, kwaye soze silibale ngayo. Ibaluleke kakhulu kwaye iyimfuneko. Ngaphandle koku, siphulukana nothando lobomi. Asiyi apho hayi. Kuyimfuneko ukuba ungazikhumbuli kuphela, kodwa nokuzama ubudlelwane nabanye abantu ukuba bathathe inxaxheba kuphuhliso lwabasebenzi ukuze bahlale benomdla ongumntwana.
"Unyana uthanda ukupheka ukutya. Ungumhlobi olungileyo, usoloko ulinde izimemo zakhe zokundwendwela "
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-Unyule kwisikolo semidlalo yeqonga lethiyetha ephezulu, nangona ndingenise amaxwebhu emva kwesikolo samabanga aphakamileyo nakwiinkqubo zemfundo yaseburhulumenteni, kunye neYunivesithi ye-Jurpaki ye-YAGNNA? Ungaze ukuthandabuze kumsebenzi okhethiweyo onyulwe yi-Artist Unde?
- Amathandabuzo ... Banjalo, kwaye bahlala bevela. Lo ngowona msebenzi unjalo kukho into ebalulekileyo ebantwini, into ephezulu kunaye. Kuyinyani, kuba abanye kubalulekile ukuba babethathwa ngamagcisa amahle, babezincoma, kwaye babedla ngokuziphatheka, kwaye ubukhulu becala, amagcisa amabi. Kwaye kukho ezo zihlala zisiya apho kufuneka zigxothwe into ethile kumsebenzi wembeko, ulwazi lwabo, ukuqonda ngokubanzi okwenzekayo emhlabeni. Le yeyona ndlela inomdla, kodwa bendisoloko ndizibuza ukuba ndingasebenzi. Ndandinomdla kuyo yonke into enxulumene nalo msebenzi - obini kumlawuli, kunye nemveliso, nokubhala imeko. Ndizivele ndizihlakulele kuzo zonke ezi ndawo. Ngapha koko, ndicinga ukuba impumelelo ibaluleke kakhulu. Kodwa, impumelelo kufuneka, kunjalo, ukuma imali, kuba eli lishishini. Kwaye ichanekile, ukuba usenza i-ART, emva koko cinga malunga nokuthengisa apho kuthengisa khona ukuba abantu banomdla kwaye bathengiswa, njengophawu lwazo, ukufumana imali ngayo. Ngaphandle kwayo nangayiphi na indlela. Kwaye la maxesha angama-60s kunye nama-70s, xa iinkosi zinokwenza iifilimu ezintle, izinto ezenziwayo, xa babenemihlali kwinto enokunxibelelana, besela iwayini, i-vodka nabantu abanengqondo efanayo - abayi kubuya. Sonke ngoku sikwinkqubo yokuhambisa kunye nerenti. Anditsho ukuba kubi. Ayisiyo imfihlo yokuba kumnandi kakhulu ukufumana izibonelelo ezahlukeneyo emsebenzini wakho, kodwa ngenxa yoku kufuneka uzame ukunyaniseka phambi kwakho.
- Kutheni ucinga ukuba i-mentiay ongenayo ipolishi, nangona uyindawo emsulwa?
-Ndihlala uninzi lobomi bam ngaphandle kwePoland kumazwe ahlukeneyo. Le yiRussia, kwaye iFrance, ndakhwela kakhulu. Funda iilwimi ezininzi. Kwaye ndiyavuma, nangona ndisisibambiso esicocekileyo, hayi yonke into eyenzekayo ePoland, ndiyayithanda. Ngelishwa. Kwelinye icala, ndiyalithanda ilizwe lam, ndiliqhayise ngayo, nangomnye, imixholo egulayo. Oku kusebenza, umzekelo, intanda yepolish. Bendingayifuna kakhulu ukuba yahlukile. Kodwa ilizwe ngalinye linamaguli abo. Kwaye izibonda azilunganga kwaye akukho zibi kakhulu kunezinye izizwe. Kodwa kwezinye izityalo, ungazithabatha ngokwakho okufunekayo ukuba luluncedo. Kubalulekile ukuchaza ngokwakho kuphela kwilizwe elinye. Inomdla ngakumbi. Oku kungumzekeliso malunga nokhozi owehle inkukhu ukusuka endlini, kwaye ezikhulile iinkukhu. Xa wabona ukhozi olukhulu, kumbuzo wokuba ngubani, umphenduli wenkukhu wamphendula wathi kuye: "Le yinkozi, kodwa awucingi ngaye kuba uyiqhude." Isebenzisana ngaye sonke. Baninzi abantu abaya kuthi bangafuni ukuba ube yinkozi, iyingenelo ngakumbi kubo ukuze ihlale inkukhu. Oku kunokuthethwa malunga namandla angafuni ukuba abantu bakhuliswe ngenkcubeko elungileyo nenkulu, ihlala iyingxaki. Ke ngoko, abantu bakhuthaze ezinye iimfuno neminqweno, ngakumbi kwaye balula.
- Yeyiphi iminqweno yakho yobungcali?
-Ubomi butshintsha. Ndikumsebenzi phantse oneminyaka engama-30 ubudala. Ndineepeyinti ezingaphezu kwe-120. Ngoku ndenza eyam. Ndilungiselela iiprojekthi ezimbini ePoland. Kukho omnye umUkraine omkhulu kwaye unomdla. Kukho eRussia, kwiRiphabliki yaseCzech. Kukho into ekufuneka yenziwe. Ewe, ndingathanda ngakumbi kwaye ndibhetele ePoland, kodwa kuyavela nje. Ke ngoko, ndisoloko ndisithi yonke into isezandleni zethu, yonke ixhomekeke kuthi.
-Ubeka ntoni kwi-Angle yesahluko xa ukhetha indima, xa usenza isigqibo sokuvumelana ngayo okanye akunjalo?
-Imvelaphi kunye noMlawuli. Ke, xa siqala ukunxibelelana noMlawuli, ke siyaqonda, safumanana, okanye hayi, siya kunika into ebonakalayo kwi-DUE. Eyona nto iphambili kukuba ikhontrakthi yeli xesha ayikasayinwa. (Uhleka.)
-Umdlali weqonga, kwaye odumileyo odumileyo rider ulungile. Ungubani?
- Kutheni ucinga njalo? Kulungile, khawucinge, uphila ngaphezu kwesiqingatha unyaka nonyaka ungasekho ekhaya; Ngaba ungathanda iimeko zakho zokuphila kobomi boyike? Akukho ngqiqweni kuba kufuneka siphumle ukuze le nxalenye incinci yobomi bakho ikufuphi ne-COBEMAYE. Ke ngoko, ndihlala ndicinga ukuba ndizama ukuba ziimeko eziqhelekileyo zokuyila kunye nobomi.
"Andicingi ngokupheleleyo wonke umntu kufuneka abelane nomntu wonke. Kukho uhlobo oluthile lwendawo ekufuneka lihlale kuthi kwaye nathi "
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- Ngubani onomdla ngakumbi, ngubani othanda ukususa kunye nokudlala neqabane okanye iqabane?
-Ayenzelwanga konke konke. Kubalulekile ukuba yayingumntu onetalente.
- Yeyiphi eyona nto iphambili kuwe kwiqabane?
- Amava obomi bakhe, ukuhlekisa kwakhe, ukusondela kulo msebenzi. Ngamafutshane, akahlali. Kuko konke.
-Ukuba ucelwa ukuba uthathe imifanekiso esitratweni, uyavuma okanye uzama i-otmazy?
- Ndiyavuma. Kodwa sinebhubhade kwiyadi, ke ndizama ukwenza lento ngoku. Ngokomgaqo, andikaze ndilile. Nangona kuyenzeka kwindawo, kuyenzeka, indimbane iqala ukubuza. Kodwa akukho kuhlala kufuna, ndixakekile apho kunye neminye imicimbi.
- kwaye unantoni namhlanje kunye nethiyetha?
-Ukusebenza enye nge-relly. Kwaye ngelixa ndingayi kwimidlalo yeqonga. Kodwa kukho umnqweno. Kwaye ukuba kukho izibonelelo ezinomdla, andizukwala. Ngoku ndixakekile, njengoko benditshilo, ndibhala iskripthi. Kwaye le ilayini kum kwinkqubo epheleleyo. Ndineeprojekthi ezintathu ezininzi. Kwaye kuthatha ixesha elininzi kunye nomgudu. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku ndinemovie, iTespostects, umgcini-shristi kunye noMlawuli. Ngelixa esi sisipho sam kwaye ikamva lam.
-Um ngandlel 'ithile undivumile ukuba ukongeza incwadi ngobomi bakho, ngaba sele ephuma?
-Nganjalo, ndamcenga, ndathoba inkqubo. Ndigqibe kwelokuba ndongeza inzala yeshumi elinambini ngepesenti. Kodwa ndiza kubuya oko.
Abalandeli bakho bayakuthanda ukufunda ngeenoveli zakho, uninzi lwazo luyekiswa njani, kodwa wena kwiingxoxo ezingachukumisi kangako kwiintliziyo zentliziyo, ngoba?
- Ukwenzela ntoni? Andicingi ukuba wonke umntu kufuneka abelane nomntu wonke. Kukho indawo ethile ekufuneka ihlale yona kwaye nathi. Kwaye ukuba uxela ngako, kuphela kwincwadi endayenzayo. Kulungile, gcina into ngokwakho. Ndiyakuthanda ukutyhala imfihlakalo encinci. (Uhleka.)
- Isimo sengqondo malunga nenqanaba lakho lokufumanisa ngesondo?
-Ndingenasisabelo kuye. Ihlekisa nje. Kwaye yiyo loo nto.
- Luhlobo luni losapho?
-Intlawulo kunye nokuphumla. Kodwa lo ngumsebenzi. Usapho kufuneka lubandakanyeke. Ilahlekile intliziyo yakho. Usapho lusapho! Ngobulumko wathi, Kulungile? (Uhleka.)
-Ukuxhasa njani ifom yomzimba: Indawo yokuzivocavoca, ukutya, ukulala ngokufanelekileyo, ukulala ixesha elide okanye enye into?
-Ndixhasa ngendlela efanayo nabo bonke abantu abazama ukubonakala. Kubaluleke kakhulu, nangakumbi ngexesha lezakhiwo, ukuze silale kakuhle, babengeyothu uloyiko, babonza ngokunjalo, banomdla kwimfundo yomzimba. Qiniseka ukuba uthathe iivithamini ukugcina umzimba. Kuyimfuneko ukumnceda, ukuze ukuba ikhona into - pah, pah, pah, wayenokuzibhokoxa. Ke ngoko, ukutshaya kufuneka kwenqatyiwe, kubalulekile ngoku. Ngapha koko, ubhubhane uya kuhlala, unyaka okanye ezimbini ziya kuba yimeko enjalo. Ewe, amaxesha anzima.
- Uyatshaya?
-Kwenzeka, ukubuthwala. (Uhleka.) Kancinci. Kodwa ndiyazi ukuba akulunganga. Xa ndizama ukunciphisa, emva koko icuba enye ifunyanwa usuku. Kodwa kule ndawo nditshaya ngakumbi icuba. Kuyo, kwenzeke, ngokubanzi andiwuthathi umlomo.
-Uthetha ngandlel 'ithile ukuba kwiinkolelo zethu yi-bibarit kunye no-hedonast, zithini ukutyala ukutya kwezi zimvo?
- Yonke le ngcaxa yobomi. Ngokomgaqo, yile nto siyityayo, into esiyinxiba nomntu esinxibelelana naye. Le yincoko, ubudlelwane bentlalontle. Andithethi malunga negajethi ngoku. Ndithetha ngolwalamano lobuqu nabanye abantu. Oku kumnandi, njengoko ngokuthe ngcembe senza amaTaliyane kunye nesiFrentshi. Ukunxibelelana okuhle, ufuna inkampani echwayitileyo. Sifuna abantu, abavela enxibelelana naye esiya kungenelwa kuye. Kodwa le incinci kwaye incinci namhlanje. Kodwa andazi ukuba kutheni le nto yenzeka.
-Ubuzwa kakhulu kakhulu eRussia, njengoko ucinga, yiyo loo nto unikwe luhlobo lothando oluninzi?
- Kukho okomzuzwana, andiyi ndawo ngobomi bam bobuqu. Ukuba ndinalo uthando lwam, ndiyacinga ukuba kuya kufuneka ndizise eluntwini. Mhlawumbi iya kuthunyelwa kwaye ifihle. Ngoku nje inkangeleko yam kwi-set kwiprojekthi kunye nomdlali weqonga, kwaye kwangoko-i-bach - ndicinga inoveli. (Ukuhleka.) Kwenzeka ngolu hlobo, kodwa asihlali siphila ubomi bakho. Asisoloko sinempembelelo kwinto abathetha ngayo ngathi. Kodwa abantu baya kuhlala benomdla kubomi bomntu, baphelisa abadlali ababathandayo kunye nabangalunganga.