I-Sergey GugryOv yenye yezona qela zibalulekileyo zelizwe lethu. Kwaye kungengenxa yokuba yaziwa ngaye ukongeza, wafunda, wayenoonyana ababini, kodwa ngenxa yokuba kungekho nto icacileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambileyo, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile, ethambile. I-thehid ngeqokobhe kwaye ihlala ivaliwe kwaye kuyo yonke indawo. Amagorha awo aqaqambile, akhokelela kabini, okanye nkqu nomdlalo kathathu, rhoqo uyachuma. Iinkcukacha-kudliwanondlebe nephepha lephephabhuku "moya".
"USergey, ekupheleni kwexesha olidlalileyo kwi-higgins kwi-premiere yethiyetha ye-Oleg tabakov" inenekazi lam elihle. " I-HIGGGIN, ukubeka ngobumnene, hayi umntu ofanelekileyo kunye noluhlu olukhulu olunonxibelelwano. Kwaye wena?
- Nawuphi na umntu onetalente ubonakaliswa yizenzo ezithile ezigqithisileyo, kwaye ngokubanzi abantu ngokubanzi, abanetalente bahlala bengasebenzi ekunxibelelaneni kubomi basekhaya obuqhelekileyo. Ewe kunjalo yi-egos. Kwakhona, italente emininzi, igxile kwinto yabantu. Ndihlala ndizibuza ukuba yintoni umntu oqhuba umntu. Ke, iphakamileyo iqhuba ishishini lakhe. Kwaye kum, umsebenzi yeyona nto iphambili. Ewe, abantu bam abasenyongweni bahlupheka. Kwaye ndingatsho ngam ukuba ndingu-Egos, ngamanye amaxesha ukuya kwinqanaba elikhulu, ngamanye amaxesha lincinci. Ndisokola ngale nto, kodwa ngempumelelo eyahlukeneyo. (Uncumo.) Umsebenzi wethu wokusebenza apho i-metamorphosis inokwenzeka khona kubantu abaqalekisiweyo, okanye ubabalo luye babizwa luthando.
- "Inenekazi lam elihle" yenye ibali likatitshala kunye nomfundi. Nawe uye ezintlanganisweni kunye nabalawuli abalungileyo nakwimidlalo yeqonga, nakwimovie ...
Ewe, ewe, kodwa okona kubaluleke kakhulu - ngamaqabane. Kum kubaluleke kakhulu. Sithethe noMlawuli, kunye nobomi obungaphezulu komdlalo sethu sele sethu ishishini, eyam kunye namaqabane, kwaye kwindlela esidibana ngayo, impumelelo yayo ixhomekeke. Kwaye i-cinema libali elahlukileyo.
-Uyithobela ngokulula? Umdlali weqonga emva kwayo yonke loo nto, umntu oxhomekekileyo. Njengomthetho, yiya kumlawuli okanye ungathanda ukubonelela ngokwakho, ukuva uluvo lwakho?
- Ukanti, ubukhulu, ubukhulu becala, andithandi ukutshabalalisa. Kwaye okona kubaluleke kakhulu - ndiyawuthanda umsebenzi wam, kwaye yena, ngokoluvo lwam, yindlela yam enzulu. Ke ngoko, ngokusisiseko, ndicinga ukuba kuyimfuneko ukulandela uMlawuli.
-Usebenza ngeSergey Ursulak kwiFinyis "i-i-i-i-i-i-ISAEEV". Ngokoluvo lwam, ukudibana naye kusoloko kuvuya kwaye yimozulu kwindawo, kwaye ngokwesiphumo esihle ...
-Yiqinisekile. I-Sergey Vladimirovich enentlonipho enzulu ibhekisa kumsebenzi wokubambisa kwaye uhlala uyazi ukuba yintoni ayifunayo. Ke ngoko, ndiyayamkela ngokukhethwa kwamagcisa kwelinye okanye komnye umfanekiso omnye. Kwaye ukuba akandimendi ukuba ndibefudlwe, andinakuze ndicinge nokukhubeka. Kodwa kwimovie nakwisimo-bhanya kwaye kuMlawuli hayi konke kuxhomekeke. Kukho umqhubi, ufakelo ... hayi nokuba idyasi ingayiyonakalisa eli tyala. Kukhulu kakhulu kakhulu, kwaye ngamanye amaxesha zingalindelekanga, njengoko, nangona kunjalo, nakuluphi na ubugcisa. Mhlawumbi yonke into, kodwa eyona nto iphambili ayizukwenzeka. Kukho imizekelo emininzi, njengokuxhaphake, xa kwanto ifanelwe kukuphumelela, kwaye ngequbuliso weza.
"Ndabiza abantu ukuba ndingahleki, kodwa neenyembezi. I-agher enye ndayothusa nge-guinea pig, yayimangalisa indlela asabela ngayo"
Ifoto: UPhilip Reznik
-Ifomula yempumelelo ayinakwenzeka ngokupheleleyo?
-Anguye. Ngelishwa, kwaye mhlawumbi ngethamsanqa. Xa yonke into izalelwe kwintuthumbo yaze iguquke ngequbuliso, unezini ezonzwa ngokupheleleyo ngokwahlukileyo kwabo baphumelelayo. Imangaliso inika iimvakalelo ezinamandla.
-Ukusenza iStudio yethiyetha okanye ngokungena kwiZiko, ngaba ubuzifanekisele kwinqanaba okanye ubuphuthumfuse kwimovie ekwangoku ngokusisiseko kuzisa i-fame?
-Ayikhathazekile malunga nam ubuncinci. Njengomntwana, ndandinomdla kwiimvakalelo endandizibona, ndibona indlela abantu abasabela ngayo xa ndikhwaza. Nantsi ke i-bacilsus, eyandifumana kum, enkosi kuThixo, ndafumana ubuhle bomsebenzi.
-Unke uqala ngokutsala abantwana. Usesesikolweni, nakwi-kindergarten equmba abantu ngokuhleka. Ibinika ntoni, kutheni uyenzile?
-Ndingaziqondi ezi mvakalelo, andikwazanga ukuba ngandlel 'ithile ngokwam, kutheni ndiyenza. Nasendleleni, andibabangela nje kuphela indlela yokuhlekisa, kodwa iimvakalelo ezahlukeneyo ezahlukeneyo, zibandakanya iinyembezi. Umzekelo, kwi-Kindergarten, umzekelo, ndayoyika ukulungelelanisa ingulube yolwandle, woyika kakhulu. Kwaye indlela awasabela ngayo yayinomdla kum. Xa kwaba ngumntu omdala, kunjalo, indawo yangaphakathi "yeye yayisele ibandakanyiwe. Ngapha koko, wayeqhelene nabantu ababephoswe eqongeni, kwaye kunjalo, ngale ndlela, konke kuthanda ukuthetha u-Olegi Palych, opholileyo, oko kukuthi, wathumela kwicala elifanelekileyo.
-Umphathi wezobugcisa weStudio yeqonga lethiyetha "Romantic" iRimma Mikhailon Taranento ikucebise ukuba ungene kwiZiko lethilesi, ngaba ukhe wamkholelwe?
-Andikhange ndicinge. Ndaxelelwa ukuba: "Yiya," kwaye ulula kwaye uqinisekile ukuba kwanaxa amathandabuzo engazange avuke, emnqubeni owenziwa kuwo.
-Ukuthetha kwinqanaba elithile, sele uziva unempumelelo, ukuthandwa, mhlawumbi nakwabayama?
-Kudakumba, ukusuka kwinqanaba, ukuba luhlobo oluthile lomfanekiso, ndingafumana kakhulu ngokunxulumene nootitshala. Yayingumnxibelelaniso wokuqala ngokwazo ngendlela. Kwaye ndazinqanda. Ke, mhlawumbi, eyona nto ibalulekileyo yenziwa, ingakumbi kubantu obungama-ART, imvakalelo yomlinganiso, ukuqonda indawo onokuthi ugqithe ngayo ezinye iziseko zokuziphatha, ezingenanto. Utitshala wayehleli phambi kwam, kodwa ndandizikhusela - umfanekiso, imaski. Kwaye bayaqonda ukuba kwinqanaba endandingelilo kwaphela, nangona emva koko ndakhumbula inkululeko yam kwinqanaba. (Uhleka.) Umzuzu wokunxibelelana nombukeli, ezi mvakalelo yayiyinto endodwayo kum. Andikwazanga ukukhetha igama kule njongo kule mvakalelo, kwaye yayiyinto eguqukayo.
-Ubuqina ngobukho beSikolo se-Schukinsky nakwiKazan. Kwaye ayibanga nentloko eMoscow, mhlawumbi, zininzi iiyunivesithi?
"Hayi, ngandlela thile ndaye ndacinga ndayibamba, njengeentonga ezimbini zokuloba. Kwenye, eKazan, kukho ukuluma, ndiyikhuphe.
-Ngaba baphume, benze yonke into, naseMoscow baphuma bemka. Ufuna phi kwaye sele uyiqonda ukuba ngubani?
-Andingacingi ngayo nantoni na malunga nantoni na malunga nantoni na. Kwaye andizange ndikwazi. Ifunyenwe kunyaka wesibini, kwiseti eyongezelelweyo ye-MCAT Studio. Andizikhumbuli ngokwam, kodwa bendinemozulu - ngokuqinisekileyo ndiya kuhamba. Ukuzimisela kwakumkhulu. Mhlawumbi, ukuba bekungadlulanga, kwaye uyakuthatha ngomnyaka wesithathu, emva koko, kuba bendiyiqonda ukuba yayingowam. Ngempumelelo kwenzeka ukuba ndivunyelwe ukuba ndijonge kwicuba. Eli sebe lilonke lanyuswa abantu abasibhozo, kwaye ezimbini zazo-mna kunye neMariash Schulz - i-oleg ye-oleg palych.
-Yintoni umbono oshiyekileyo kuye, khumbula?
- Wayelilungiswa lonke ixesha. Kodwa, ngaphandle kwento yokuba wayengagungqi, wayenganzima ukubamisa kwaye ngenyameko, ngokweenkcukacha, nangona wayenokuthetha nomntu ongazinzanga kuye. Ke yayikum. Simfezekisile nje kwipaseji. Kwaye kamva, okanye ingqesho yakhe, okanye ubungakanani boxanduva awayeluthathe, aluzange luphazamiseke kuye ukuze ubone umntu emntwini, nokuba umvavanya kangakanani na. Uhlala ebaluleke kakhulu kwingxaki, kwaye wakhawuleza wakhawuleza, waza wagqiba kwangoko. Ihlala iyandithanda. Kwaye ixesha elide, side sisondele, wayeyindawo yasezulwini, eyakufuphi nesizathu esithile. Ndaye ndaqonda ukuba ungumququzeleli omangalisayo kunye nomntu oqaqambileyo onomsindo onamandla: Wathabatha abantu kwi-arbit yakhe - emva koko, ngenye indlela, ejikelezisa umsebenzi wakhe. Kwaye ngoku kubonakala ngathi akukho mntu sinye kuthi, kodwa konke okufanayo, akukho mntu uyicimile imithetho ye-Intertia - kwaye ishishini lakhe lihlala.
"U-Oleg Pavlovich Tobakova ngamanye amaxesha wandibiza ngokuba ngunyana wakhe. Lo ngumntu othetha ukuba akukho bazali"
Ifoto: UPhilip Reznik
-Kwakunzima kuwe xa engazange?
-K kwaye ngoku kunzima, kuba xa ishiya icandelo lakhe eliphambili kwindawo emdaka, olu lwazi alunakuwa ngokukhawuleza, umngxunya ubude. Kunye nesikali somntu, enye iyabonakala. Ndicinga ukuba le vacuum iya kuvakala ixesha elide emva kononophelo lwayo.
- Ngexesha lokufunda kwakho, ngaba wenzekile naziphi na iingxaki, ukuphelelwa lithemba?
- Kwaye ngubani ongenayo? Funda ndiqhubeka unanamhla. Ukuba ubhale iDiploma - Umculi, oko akuthethi ukuba unokwenza yonke into. Kuya kuthi, ewe, yilungiselele yonke into kwaye ube nakho ukubanakho, kodwa enyanisweni luza ngamava. Kwimidlalo yeqonga owela kwenye, ingeyiyo enye neqela labafundi - kwaye inqanaba elitsha liqala ebomini. Kwaye kwiZiko bendinoloyika lonke ixesha, xa u-Olegi Pavlovich weza kwiimviwo okanye kwakuyimfuneko ukumbonisa uhlobo lomsebenzi. Okanye xa abafundi eklasini bagxothwa. Kubonakala ngathi ayilunganga, kwaye iyonakalisa, loo nto kwaye unokuqonda okufanayo. Ewe kunjalo, ke sasingayiqondi le nto bendiyithetha ukuba ndiyenze le nto okanye umfundi kwaye yiphi imboleko awayeyithathile ngayo ukuba uyishiya le ndoda yayiza kutsala. Ke ngoko, kwakukho ukungcangcazela, kunye noloyiko oluphindisayo ngenxa yokoyika ukuchaneka kwenqanaba lokuqala lomsebenzi, akusoloko kumi imiphunga.
- Kwaye khumbula indumiso yokuqala?
"Enje ndenzile, kwakukho ukuboniswa kokuqala komsebenzi ozimeleyo, kwaye i-valisam yam ye-loankin evela kwithole" legolide "wammphulaza. Nam nam. (Uncumo.) Okungakumbi ngexesha lezifundo zakhe, akazange andidumise kakhulu.
- Bakubuthande njani abazali bakho ukuba baphathe njani inkanuko yabantwana bakho?
-UMama akazange abonakalise iimvakalelo ezikhethekileyo, ekhuthaza iklasi yam, wavuya ukuba andikhange ndixhonywe esitratweni. Kodwa anditsho ukuba wonwabile kule nto bendiyenza kwesi sangqa. Kwaye utata akazange akhathazeke. Bachukunyiswa kuphela xa ndatsho ukuba andizukuya kwisikolo somkhosi, kodwa kwi-palatical.
- kodwa khange ndikuyekise. Ngokubanzi, unokuyeka?
"UThixo umazi ukuba babesentloko bazo." Ngelo xesha, ubawo noTata babenolwalamano olunjalo wayeqonda: Sele ndibonisa imiqondiso yendoda, oko kukuthi, ndingunoxanduva lokuthetha, oko kuthetha ukuba kunjalo. Kwaye wayehlonitshwa ngentlonipho kwisigqibo sam, kodwa umama wayenenxaxheba. Wajonga ngaye lonke ixesha, ukuba kutheni endibangela. Kodwa uTata wathi: "Bayekeni imali kwaye babuye."
Ndiyazi ukuba utata wakho wayengumkhosi. Kwaye ngubani osebenze umama?
-iDityani kwisibhedlele somkhosi. Kodwa yena, njengombukeli, ethanda imovie kunye nethiyetha kakhulu. Kwaye yayingumntu oneemvakalelo kakhulu, wayenayo yonke into evaliweyo: kwaye ehleka, neenyembezi.
Iminyaka engamashumi amathathu iye yaphulukana notata, kwasekuqaleni. Wakwazi ukubamba impumelelo yakho yokuqala?
-Ngaba. Wayesazi ukuba ndiseMoscow, ndisebenza kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga, ndihlala ehostele. I-cinema kule minyaka yayingeyonto yakwenza konke, kwaye intsebenzo yokuqala yayingu "Bumbarash" ("i-bumbarash". - Approx. Utata akazange andibone kwinqanaba lonke. Eminye i-setch ye-batch yaqalisa, kodwa wayesavuya le nto, yayiyinto enjalo i-bounacet (incumile), ethanda ukundidumisa. Xa wayehlala yedwa, wayenzima kuye, ndaqala ukuphosa imali, kwaye kuyacaca ukuba waqonda ukuba ndifumene iinyawo zam, ndizolile. Ndiyathemba ukuba wayendonwabile kum.
- Ukufika kwakhe kubudala babazali, ngaba uyazifunda ngokwakho, umkhwa, kwenye into?
-Yiqinisekile. Ngaphandle kwawo? Andikwazi ukuthetha ngokuthe ngqo kwinto, kodwa ndifumanisa ukuba.
-Utshilo ukuba utata wayengqongqo, kwaye wabakhulisa njani abantwana bakho?
-Uya Kodwa ngezilungiso kwinto yokuba ndiziva ebuntwaneni bam xa ndisohlwaywa, ngokungekho sikweni ngokupheleleyo. Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha wayesazi ukuba njengoko uBawo ebengazukuyenza.
-Usele ufundiswa ekholejini ...
"Ndithandabuza kakhulu ngemfundiso yam, kwaye u-Olegi Palych wathetha." Ndavuma, kuba okwesithathu bendisele ndilile. Kodwa "ukufundisa" kuchazwe ngamandla, kuba ndinomsebenzi omkhulu kwindawo yeqonga ngoku, kwaye lixesha elininzi kufuneka ndisebenze nabafundi. Ndabelana ngamava akho, kunokuba oku kunokubizwa ngokuba yi-menciting.
-Ngaba ucinga ukuba isizukulwana esincinci sabadlali siyafana neyakho, okanye eyahlukileyo?
- Ngandlel 'ithile bayafana, kwaye kwinto kukho umahluko omkhulu. Banentsomi enkulu, kuba bekungafuneki ukuba bafanekiswe ebuntwaneni ukuba intonga ingumpu, inemipu, yahlukile. Ngokwemntwana, ebuntwaneni, intshabalalo iyazalwa kwaye ubutyebi behlabathi ngaphakathi buyaqhutywa. Nabo-ubukhulu becala-ubuntwana ukhuselekile, ukhathalelo. Kwaye banesidima esibi ngonxibelelwano. Imbalelwano, iinethiwekhi zentlalo ... yethiyetha, ihlala iyonakalisa, kuba le nto iyimfuneko ukuba unxibelelane ngokuthe ngqo. Kodwa zihamba kakhulu, ukungqinelana kwinto esikuyo kwiminyaka yabo.
-I-Erudite?
-Ngoko, bendiya kuphikisana, ukuphoxeka kwabo kunokomelela. Kodwa alilotyala labo, kodwa ngabazali. Kwaye enkulu molo 'kucoceko' olusuka kwi-Ofisi yezeMfundo, abahlaziyi beentaba ababulawa kwii-Nineties, nangona kunjalo inkqubo yemfundo engafezekanga, kodwa isazisa iziphumo zabo. Kwaye ngoku, kunye neminyaka emashumi mathathu alwa, ndinganika nantoni na.
-Um ngandlel 'ithile wathi babeqhelise kwangoko ngenxa yokuba kwakungekho bazali. Sele uba ngumntu omdala kwaye kabini notata, ngaba uziva ngathi akwanele kubo?
-Yiqinisekile. Ngelixa abazali bephila, ungumntwana. Kwaye nje emva kokuba bemkile, uya kuba ngowokugqibela kulo mgca. Kukho ukukhula nokuqonda ukuba awusengumfana kwaye akukho mntu uya kukubiza. Nangona i-oleg palych ngamanye amaxesha ibizwa. (Uhleka.) Kodwa akazange athethe ngam. Lo ngumntu ongento yanto, akukho baninzi kunabazali bam abandihambisele kwinqaku elithile. U-Olegi Palych waphembelela kakhulu okwenzekayo kum ngoku, kubomi bam obusenzeka, njengathi uninzi lwethu, abalandeli bakhe. Le vonyodya mashkov yenye yezo.
-Usebenza nge-vladimir mashkov kunye ne "Bumbarash", kwaye emva koko kwi-MHT ngaphezulu kwemidlalo "¶13d". Kodwa ke ebengengomlawuli wobugcisa. Ngoku ubudlelwane bakho butshintshile?
-Sisanda kutshanje kwi "Tailor Thule" kwaye ngoku dlala kunye apho. Kwaye kudala ifilwe kwifilimu yakhe "uTata". Ndicinga ukuba i-voloyea ayitshintshanga kakhulu. Hayi, kunjalo, kukho ezinye iinguqu, kodwa nabani na uhlala kwaye etshintsha. Kwinto eyenziwe lula, kwinto enzima ngakumbi. Kwenye indawo endiziphetheyo, kwenye indawo, ngokuchasene noko, nditsho ukuba ndiyibona iyimfuneko. Ngale ndlela, asinangxaki.
-Uyonwabile xa wayehamba ngethiyetha?
- Ewe. Ndicinga ukuba le yinto entle yethiyetha yethu.
- Kwenzeka ntoni nge-movie yakho ngoku? Ngaba unikezo?
- Ngoku bekukho i-dabi yethiyetha eninzi. Kuhlala kukho izicwangciso kwimovie, kodwa banokwaphula nangaliphi na ixesha. Ke ngoko, andizukuthetha. Ithiyetha yinto eqinileyo ngakumbi. Ngamaxesha anzima, kwii-Nineties, ndahlala kuwo kuphela umbulelo. Sele ndinogonyo-ubukho ngaphandle kwe-cinema. Ndiyaqonda ukuba ithiyetha sizizibuko, endinokulinda ngalo naliphi na ixesha lokutshintshwa.
"Ndidinga kancinci kubomi bemihla ngemihla, andiyindoda ephalane, ayikho ifashoni, andazi ukuba ndiphumle njani. Ngamanye amaxesha ndiyathanda ukutya okumnandi, kodwa ezilula"
Ifoto: Cinezela i-Moscow Theatat theatre p / r o.tabaku
-Kwi-Nineties, unokwanela ukuba uhlala kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga okanye isebenze kwenye indawo?
-Umfundi usebenze kakhulu, nakwimidlalo yeqonga- engasasebenzi. Akukho mali yaneleyo, kunjalo, kodwa yayiyiSantal Claus kunyaka omtsha.
-Unokukhetha iiprojekthi kwi-movie kuphela ezo zinomdla kuwe? Ngaba ungakhathazeki ngemali, nqumama?
Yonke into yenzeka ngandlela zonke. Lo ngumsebenzi wam. Ewe kunjalo, kuya kufuneka abuyisele ulwaneliseko lokuyila, kodwa ukuba ndiyabona ukuba andiyi kuyifumana apha, ke umbuzo uphakama malunga nemirhumo, malunga nembuyekezo yezinto ezibonakalayo. Kodwa ngokubanzi, ndidinga kancinci kubomi bemihla ngemihla, andiyindoda egudileyo, ingeyiyo ifashoni, andazi ukuba ndingaphumla njani. Ngamanye amaxesha ndiyathanda ukutya okumnandi, kodwa ndiyayithanda xa sisitya esilula.
-Umntu ovela kubadlali uthanda ukuhlala nentonga yokuloba, umntu uyahamba, kwaye uthini ngawe?
-Ukuba uyalawula, yiya kubahlobo babahlobo kwiVolga, ungabikho eMoscow. Ndihambe kakhulu kunye nethiyetha. Ekuqaleni, yonke le nto yayizimangalisayo, nam ndinomdla, ndinomdla, kodwa kungekudala ndaqalisa ukuziva ukuba kwiveki enesiqingatha sele sele ndinenzekile ziimpembelelo zakho kwaye ndifuna ukuya ekhaya.
- Kwaye kwilizwe lasekhaya, kwiMpuma Ekude, kwakudala? Akukho zihlobo zisele apho?
- Ixesha elide. Kwakukho izalamane. Oku kum kwiKamshsina, apho sasihlala khona kamva, akukho mntu. Kwaye kwiMpuma Ekude nakwi-Eapunikhi yesibini, kunye noAunts, kwaye umalume ukhoyo. Sixhasa ubudlelwane kunye nabo. Ndifuna ukuya apho. AYI nje akukho xesha, kunzima ukulungelelanisa, ufuna isisombululo esivakalayo.
-Uyixhasa njani inkqubo yakho yovalo? Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, lo msebenzi uyayijongela ngaphezulu ...
-Ukucamngca. Ndiyathanda ukubukela. Emva kwabantu, indalo, kuko konke okukungqongileyo.