I-Coco Gral Chanel yathi kuphela umsebenzi wakhe owuthandayo awunakuze ungcatshe. I-Actor Dmitpy Kulichkov idala ifunda le nyaniso. Ukususela ebuntwaneni, wabeka izinto ezizalisekileyo ukuba ubomi bakhe buqubude busaya kunqumama, kodwa uyathanda imithi leyo kwaye udlale yonke imithi yeminyaka ephezulu: "Isidenge", "Dulist", Nyukich, "uGqr. Right", "IZiko leeFoni". Iinkcukacha-kudliwanondlebe nephepha lephephabhuku "moya".
-Ukugweba nge-Instagram yakho, uyathandana, kwaye izilwanyana ziyakuthembela ...
Ewe, kukho izinto ezinje, izilwanyana ziyandithanda. Kwaye imeko yothando isondele kum.
-Umvusele omnye umntu osebenza naye emva kweminyaka engamashumi amane ubunemihlali. Uthetha ukuthini kanye kanye?
"Ngobudala, ukwazi ngakumbi kwaba kukuqonda ngakumbi, uqala ukunikela ingqalelo kwezinye izinto ndingakhange ndimthande esitheleyo, ndiye ndazibuza, ukuba ndizithathele ingqalelo ukuyenza, siyazixabisa ezona qhinga zilula, uya kuba noyolo kubo. Apha sithetha nawe, ogqithileyo, eluhlaza, kwaye le yi-buzz. Ukuba ngaphambi kokuba ndibaleke, umzekelo, ngoku ndifumana umtsalane wam kuyo. Sele ndithanda ukuba sekhaya, upheke ... kwaye zininzi izinto ezinjalo. Ixabiso lokuhamba lonke ixesha lonyuka, kuba kungekho ngaphantsi nangasemva. Masithi ukuba bendidla ngokutsha, yayikwingxabano yangaphakathi, ngoku iyeza ukwamkelwa kwenyani, nokuba yintoni. Jonga, okwangoku ndihlala ngokupheleleyo ngaphandle kwemali, kwaye ngaphambi kokuba "ndibethe," uloyiko, obizwa ngokuba yimali mboleko, ngoku uthobe kakhulu kuwo. Intanda-bulumko. (Uncumo.) Akuchaphazeli imeko yam. Isimo sengqondo malunga nenguqulelo ejikelezileyo. Ndayeka ukwahlula abantu, ndithetha ngokugqibeleleyo, ngokulungileyo nokubi. Ndifuna ukunyamezela ubuthathaka kunye nokungafezeki kwabanye, kuba akulunganga.
-Uye wachukumisa umxholo wemali, kwaye ndinesibonakaliso sokuba inkalo yemali ayizange ibe yintloko kuwe. Ngaba ndiphosakele?
-Undibawa, ndingu-trans. Andazi ukuba ndingayigcina njani, ihlehlise. Ndiyathanda ukunika izipho ... kuphela ndiqala ukucinga ngento oza kuyikhathalela ingomso.
- Kungenxa yesi sizathu, ngokucacileyo, kanye ngaphaya kwe-phandemic oye walula ukwakhiwa kwendlu yelizwe.
- Ngelixa le nkqubo imisiwe.
- Iphi iyelenqe lakho?
- Indawo ebalaseleyo, kwingingqi ye-tula, kwilali yaseFyodor Koyoshova. Ngoku bonke abahlobo kunye nabantu abaziqhelileyo bacebisa ukuba bajonge kule ndawo.
-Umsebenzi, unokuqhayisa ngeemitha ezininzi ezizeleyo kunye neeseti zemvakalelo. Ewe, nakwinqanaba leminyaka emininzi ... yimalini ikhrayitheriya yakho enzima yokukhethwa kwezinto?
Imovie kulula ukwenza ukubekwa emotweni. Apho kungekho mfuneko yokukhetha. Andifuni kuphela xa ingawugxeki umphefumlo. Ifilimu ilula, kuba kukho enye into ethile, ezinye iindlela zangaphakathi zomsebenzi. Kukho imbuyekezo epheleleyo ngexesha nje elifutshane, kodwa iholo yemidlalo yeqonga likhangela. Kungatsho ukuba imovie yinkanuko, kunye nethiyetha luthando. Apho ngokuqinisekileyo musa ukuvuma ukuthatha inxaxheba ekuqulunqweni kwendlela endingenakuzifumana ngayo. Ithiyetha yinto esisiseko yesi sizathu ndisandula ukutyhubela okwesibini, kwaye ekugqibeleni, ndayishiya "Tabakcoque", andifuni ukuphuma kwinqanaba lemveliso endingayiboni inqaku ukuthatha inxaxheba. Umlawuli weqonga weqonga weqonga kwi-Theatrestantin encinci Konstantin Boonstantin Bogomolov ibize kuye, kwaye ndasamkela ngovuyo isimemo. Kwaye ngoku siziqhelanisa "needemon" zeDoostoevsky.
"Okwangoku ndihleli kulo lonke ngaphandle kwemali, kwaye kwangaphambi kokuba ndibethe, ndisonge, ndicele imali mboleko. Kwaye ngoku izolile kakhulu"
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- Ngubani umlinganiswa wakho?
- Isisu yaseKirillov.
- Nje ukuba ufike woyisa imali eyinkunzi- ucinga ukuba ipholile?
-Andingazange boyise, kodwa bendiyithanda iMoscow, kwaye ibonakala kum, ndihlangabezana nokuphindaphindwa.
-Usarenta indawo yokuhlala?
Iminyaka emininzi ndayidubula igumbi, kodwa ngoku ndihlala kwi.
-Izixeko ezinkulu zihlala zinika ithuba lokubeka emngciphekweni. Kwaye wena - i-adventurer, sele ibali elinye lezinto ozilindeleyo i-MHT Tabakov, nayo, i-niaratov, ukumthintela kwaye ithi uphuphe. Ijika, inkalipho ihlawula?
-Kaly. Kwaye le ntlanganiso, imizuzu nje embalwa yencoko, ngelixa u-Olegi Pavlovich ehamba emotweni ukuya kwinkonzo ekungeneni, wamisela ulwalathiso lwam kunye nekamva. Kucacile ukuba njengam, abadlali abanxaniweyo, wajamelana newaka. Uye wandibuza ukuba ndikufune ntoni, - ndaphendula ngelithi ndiyifunda kwiStudiyo ye-MCAIO. Undiphendule wathi: "Kulungile, funda!" Ndathi: "Kwaye ukuba ndinayo idiploma?" Kula mazwi, wema wathi: "Ukuba akunakwenzeka, kodwa ufuna ukungabi nzima, uya kuthi". Kwaye la mazwi agutyungelwe kum, waba njengentsikelelo: iingcango zaqalisa ukuvula, kwaoko iingcango zaqalisa ukusiwa ngekhondo lesibini yi-Evgeny Boriovich. Kwaye ukusuka kwikhosi yesithathu bendidla ngokudlala kwi-MHT nakwi-TABAAKCOCE ".
-Uhlala uziva uqwalaselo nenkxaso yeenkosi ezinkulu - indoda yelizwe?
Ewe, ndandibandakanyeka kwezorhwebo kuzo zombini iithiyetha. U-Oleg Pavlovich wandikhuphela izihlandlo ezininzi xa zaphukelwa yimpazamo yam. Kodwa emva kokuxolelwa kwesithathu, xa wandixelela ukuba akasiqondi isizathu sokuba ndenze njalo - ndandizimisele, kwaye ndimnike isithembiso sokuba i-googo . Undifundise ukuxolela, hayi isohlwayo. Ndikhe ndayishiya iholo yemidlalo yeqonga, kwaye emva kweminyaka embalwa wandibuyisela kwakhona.
-Ndixelele, kwaye kwimithetho yakho - ukumisela indima oyigqalayo ngokwakho?
-Ngangaze ndibuze kwaye andiyi. Andizukukhuphisana naye nabani na - owokuqala ukushiya kwimeko enjalo. Ukuba ndifuna umntu kwaye iluncedo, ndiza kuyenza yonke into exhomekeke kuwe. Umsebenzi wethu ziisampuli, kwaye oku kuyinto eqhelekileyo ukuba awulunganga.
"U-Oleg Pavlovich wandikhuphela izihlandlo ezininzi, xa kwabakho imisebenzi emininzi, xa kwabakho imisebenzi emininzi. Emva kwentsimbi yesithathu ndinike igama ukuba lenzeke kwakhona."
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-Ngaba ivela, kwaye iindima eziphuphayo azikho?
-Nganjalo, ndiyathemba ukuba umbono owalathisayo kuphela. Indima yeyona nto ingaqhelekanga, ubume obuthile, luzalisa kuphela ngesicwangciso somlawuli, okwawuvula ubuso obungaziwayo okanye usebenzisa iimpawu ezikhoyo. Kodwa ihlala inguDeet kunye nomphathi. Indima enye kunye nele nqanaba inye iya kuba kunye nam ndedwa, kwaye namntu wam ahlukile ngokupheleleyo. Ke yonke into isezandleni zombhali. Ndisandula ukubizwa ngokuba ngumphathi oselula wandibizela kwifilimu yam emfutshane ukuze ndiza kudlala umntu oneminyaka elishumi amahlanu entolongweni yolawulo olungqongqo. Undibona kule nto, kodwa ngendingaze ndifikelele kwimbono yokuba ndingayidlala. Kwaye ngokwemvelo, ndiza kuzama. Ibali elifanayo elingalinganiyo lenzekile kunyaka ophelileyo kunye nomnyhadala wefilimu "Sithanda i-Igor Marchenko, apho ndandihlala ndingumbukele we-autista, othandana naye ummelwane wakhe. Kwakungumngeni kum. Ke ndivulelekile kuzo zonke iintlobo zezindululo.
- Akukho film yuri Bokov ayiyenzi ngaphandle kokuthatha inxaxheba kwakho. Ngaba lo ngumlawuli wakho ogqibeleleyo?
- Hayi, andizange ndibe yinkanyezi kuzo zonke iifilimu zakhe. Kodwa akunakwenzeka ukuba rhoqo nomntu osecaleni kombhobho: Kuya kufuneka ukuba uphefumle, yenza umntu aphefumle omnye komnye, gcina into, ke, mhlawumbi dibana kwakhona. Esi sisikimu esifanayo njengabudlelwane bothando. Kum, kukho ingozi kubudlelwane obusondeleyo. Kuthatha umgama, umbono ocacileyo wokuqonda ubudlelwane, vavanya ukubaluleka komntu kuwe kunye nobuchule bayo. Ukubhala malunga nombhali malunga nelizwe lamanye, kuya kufuneka uyishiye kude kuyo. (Uncumo.)
-Umde ube kwiindawo zokudubula ekhaya. Ngaba uyaluthanda utshintsho olwenzekayo apho?
-Ndiyathemba abantu abancinci, igazi elililo. Batsaleleka yimithwalo yabo, inzondelelo, amehlo avuthayo, izigwebo ezizimeleyo kunye nesibindi. Kucacile ukuba i-cinema yentengiso ichaza imithetho yayo, kodwa ndiyayithanda intetho yombhali ngakumbi, xa yonke into yenziwa ngokuzinzileyo, ngaphandle kokuchukumisa, kodwa xa singazazi njani zoyika iimpazamo. Ndingathanda ukufumana amagcisa amancinci kumhlala-phantsi. (Uncumo.)
- Ngaba unazo ezinye iibhongo eziya ngqo, ukuvelisa okanye, mhlawumbi, ishishini?
-Ndinamabhongo malunga nomsebenzi wakho: Ukuze ube ngumdlali osemgangathweni ophezulu kunye nomdlali olungileyo.
-Umdlali weqonga obafunayo, abaLawuli bayakuthanda, kodwa abasebenzisi indima ephambili ... njengoko ucinga, ngoba? Inkangeleko?
-E-que, oku kube kanye. Hayi ukwenziwa kobuHeroti. Kwelinye icala, ndiyathanda ukudlala iziqendu. Ndiyavuma ngaphandle kweengxaki. Ndinemfutshane kakhulu, kubandakanya i-geut, umfundi. Ndingovavanyo, hayi ivolumu. Kumgama omde, umlingisi unokuphumla, kwaye isiqendu esifutshane sinyanzelekile ukuba sibonakale sikhanya, sikhawuleze. Kuya kufuneka uze nento ebambelelayo. Kwaye malunga neendima eziphambili, ndiza kuthi kwindawo yeqonga ababenayo, Kungekudala ndiqonde "ukupheliswa" kufuneka zikhululwe kwisitishi sokuqala, apho sidlala isibini esitshatileyo eVictoria. Eli libali lengqondo lengqondo, apho kulwalamano olungaphambili kunye nabalinganiswa. Ndidlala umphenyi omnye apho, ngubani, ongamthobeliyo nabani na, yenza into ayithandayo, kuba akukho nto ininzi ebomini bakhe.
-Ndiqaphele ukuba nje amagorha anjalo uphumelele kakuhle.
-Ngokuba mna ngokwam ndinjalo. Ndiyazi kancinci ngobomi: Undithatha yonke imisebenzi. Ndifumana ukuqonda kwam kumsebenzi. Ubugcisa obusebenzayo, ukuba uyinika ngokupheleleyo, kukuthatha ngokupheleleyo, ungashiyanga amandla okanye amandla, akukho xesha lasimahla lenye into. Ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo, ziyondla, uziva ubuye. Uyazi, kolu hlobo lwendalo esingqongileyo endiziva ndiphila, ndihlala ubomi obugcweleyo. Akukho thuba lesiqingatha, kuya kufuneka utyelele ngaphandle ngentloko yakho, ungabi nazintloni. Kwaye enyanisweni, ngokuchasene noko, iindibano ezizeleyo, i-taboos. Kungenxa yesi sizathu sokuba abantu abaninzi bafumane ulonwabo kubuchule bokuyila.
"NgeTatiana, sasiqhelene neSaratov, kwaye iminyaka esixhenxe yoMtshato sasinengqondo, emva koko saqhawula umtshato '
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-Linda, kuthekani ngosapho? Ndifundile ukuba umfazi wakho nguTatiana Pyhonin, umbambi wethiyetha Enna Camurova
-Umtshato neTatiana. Babeqhelene neSaratov, kunye neminyaka esixhenxe yokutshata besinokuqonda, kodwa, kuyabonakala ukuba, kwaye le yinto eqhelekileyo. Mhlawumbi andinguye umntu wosapho olukhulu, andazi. Namhlanje, usapho lwam ngabo bathatha inxaxheba nam kwiprojekthi ethile. Ke ndingulolo. Kodwa ukuba uvela ngequbuliso kum umntu obalulekileyo, onomdla, andiyi kukhathazeka. Kodwa ke umsebenzi kuphela.
- Isergey Dovlatov yabhala ukuba umntu olungileyo unobudlelwane nabafazi bahlala besongelwe. Abafazi ngesizathu esithile bathanda iincinci. Ngaba uhlala uqinisekisiwe ngolu phawu lombhali?
Anditsho ukuba ndithethe bonke abantu basetyhini, kwaye kuyacaca ukuba ayingabo bonke abantu beebastayo, abathanda abafazi.
-Ngasiphi isizathu sokuba ulwahlulo lwakho luphele rhoqo?
-Ukungazi, akanamava, ukuvutha nokushushu kunye ne-ego.
- Ngaba uyathanda ngokulula?
- Ndisemathandweni. Kodwa umbuzo yeyokuba leliphi ixesha.
- Kwindima yamaqhawekazi, andikukhumbuli.
Ewe, le ayisiyondi yam, kodwa amanye amabali kunye nabalinganiswa abanazo. Ndilinde kwaye ndifuna ukudlala uthando.
-Angoyiki iinkanuko zokwenyani kwindawo?
- Zonke iimvakalelo ngandlel 'ithile ziya emsebenzini, ziyayondla.
-Ukuba sithetha ngokhetho lwexesha elizayo, kufanele ukuba ibe yintoni?
-Ndinomdla kubantu abanomdla, abanomdla. Ndiqinisekisile ukuba ithiyori ye-halves ibubuxoki. Nokuba bambalwa abakhulileyo, xa uxanduva lolonwabo lwakhe lutshintshelwe kwenye, luthintele ngokuhambelana, kwaye kuvela iingxaki ezininzi. Kwaye eyona nto iphambili yimvakalelo engathethekiyo yobunini: Ungowam, kwaye ningowam. Akukho mntu unetyala akukho nto. Ndiyayiqonda, kodwa emva kwexesha. Umntu ngamnye ngabantu abahlukeneyo, abazimeleyo, kunye nobudlelwane nguMyili. Sidibana nabantu esinokuba nabo okanye abangakwaziyo ukunxibelelana njengamaqabane, sincedane ngexesha elithile lobomi. Umzuzu wokuthatha umntwana ongamzalanga abe ngowakho. Ecaleni kwakho ukuba yindoda ngokupheleleyo kwenye indawo. Kwimeko yam, ndibe ngcono ngakumbi. Into ephambili- ndingamnika lo mntu. Kuyimfuneko ukuba zibuze kuqala.
- nangona kunjalo, abafazi bakuchaphazela ngokucacileyo ikamva lakho, eqala ngoomama, othi, ophethe i-Doune, emnyaka oneminyaka esixhenxe, kwiDrama yeNdlu yeNdlu yoovulindlela, ngaloo ndlela wagqiba ngakumbi indlela yakho yokuyila ...
Ewe kunjalo, abafazi bachaphazela ikamva lam. Umama, oogogo, intombi - bandikhokela. Intombazana nganye yavula into entsha kum. Njengoko uyazi, sizihlole ngokwakho abanye abantu, kwaye ngumfazi owuthandayo onokuthi avule iimpawu ezingafakwanga kuwe. Ngaphandle kwawo, kunzima ukuqonda ngokwaneleyo. Ukuqala kwabasetyhini yinjini yamadoda. Ke lona ubambeleyo, umama wayiva le meko kum, andixhasa umsebenzi wobugcisa, kwaye ndivela kwabo bangakhange babone. Andifikeleli le ndawo, ndivakalelwa kukuba ndikhona apho kwakuyimfuneko. Ndandimncinci kwiqela, kodwa ndamkelwa ngothando oluhle kakhulu, ndabona imfuno yam. Kwaye ndacwangcisa ukuba ukuba ndibona isimo sengqondo sokungazithembi, ndikulungele ukunika yonke into ngembuyekezo. Ukusukela ngoko ayitshintshanga.
-Ndifunde ukuba ukhule intendelezo. Ngaba idityaniswa nokufikelela kwisakhiwo?
-Uye akazange angabandakanyi enye. Ndandihlala ndikhutshiwe ngaphandle kwendlu, ndidinga intshukumo esisigxina, inkampani.
"Ebutsheni bam, ndaphule ixesha elide ngaphandle kwe-vector, echithekileyo iimvakalelo, ukuza kwilahleko, ukuza kuthi ga ngoku
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-Okukuqhelekile kuwe namhlanje?
-Ndiyakuthanda ukuhamba. Ukuba kunokwenzeka, ndizama ukushiya kwenye indawo ngokukhawuleza. Ndiyayithanda imidlalo, ndiye ehobe, ndidlala ibhola, i-hockey. Ke ngoko, akunzima kum ukuba ndibaleke ngokukhawuleza, ndikhwela ihashe okanye ndenze amaqhinga amaninzi ngakumbi.
-Uye wathi ukuba uza kukhathazeka. Khumbula iimeko ezisadanisa?
-Kwaninzi kubo.
- Yayingumhlaba wesondlo kumagorha akho exesha elizayo? Ngaba ucinga ukuba awubazi ubomi babantu abaqhelekileyo?
-Im ngokwabantu abavela kubantu abaqhelekileyo.
-Kukho ubuchule, umculo okanye ubugcisa, ungathanda ukuba nezinto?
- Dlala igitare nakwi-muridang (le yi-rum yencwadana).
- Zeziphi iimpawu onokukukhupha kude nomntu? Ungummelwane wakho kangakanani?
-Ukubawa, ukubanda kunye nokungakhathali. Isangqa sonxibelelwano sibanzi kakhulu. Kwaye incinci kakhulu.
- Abantu abanobuchule bahlala beneqela lemikhwa eyingozi. YINTONI?
- Ukusuka kwimvumelwano emininzi, ubuvila kunye nobushushu obungxamisekileyo.
-Uye waphulukana notata kwangoko, ngaba igalelo ekukhuleni kwangethuba?
-Ndikhulisa kamva. Ebutsheni bam, ndaphule ixesha elide ngaphandle kwe-vector, inyibilikisiwe, ukuza kwilahleko ethile, ukuba ingelusizi. Kodwa ngoku kum ixesha lamathuba, xa ufuna, kwaye unakho, kwaye uyazi kancinci, kwaye ulungele ukufunda.
Ngaba awunamashumi amane?
-Nga kude! Ngamashumi amathathu kuphela, okanye ngaphantsi, ukuba uyagweba ngezenzo. (Uncumo.)