Abanye bathi akukho msebenzi wokubanjwa. Abanye (kwaye abadlali ngokwabo bakhalaza malunga nokuba yintoni okuxhomekekileyo. Sixelele zeziphi izibonelelo kwaye ziziphi iimigodi kumsebenzi wokubamba ozibonayo?
-Ngabamba? Le yincoko yeeveki ezimbini. (Kuhleka.) Ukuba ngokufutshane, ezona ndlela zikukukoneliseka ngokupheleleyo kukukhala kwakho kunye namampunge. Ukuba unyanzelekile, emva koko unokunelisa ngokupheleleyo iindalo zakho zokudala. I-Con-Konke konke ukuphumla! Olu lixesha lokuphila olungaqondakaliyo, ngamanye amaxesha ukunqongophala kwendlu, entsatsheni, ukungaqondi rhoqo kosapho, ukuthathelwa ingqalelo okwaneleyo ekuhlaseleni kwabantwana. Emva koko abadlali bekhathazekile yi-Psyfu kancinci, njengoko abantu baneemvakalelo, bevutha ngumsindo, yonke into. Kwaye ekubeni sibilisiwe kwi-boiler enye, kunzima ukuhlala kwi-carnival kwaye ingabi yihempe ngokwakho, ibeka i-clown cap. Zonke ngendlela enye okanye enye ibamangalisa. Zininzi izinto ezinjalo ezingenanto phakathi kwabadlali. Kukho, kunjalo, ubuhlobo, kodwa kunqabile kakhulu. Ke ngoko, i-mines eninzi kumsebenzi obambeleyo. Kakhulu.
- Kutheni le nto ubuchule bokusebenza?
-Kuba ndiqala ukuza kweli-50. Ewe, hayi indlela engaqhelekanga ngayo kwiminyaka engama-70 kukulila kwaye ibonise into. Yonke into inexesha layo. Mhlawumbi, emva kwayo yonke loo nto, ubungcali besidudu, uyazi, bendihlala ndimthanda, kwaye ndiyandicaphukela, umzekelo, umlilo, oogqirha, ogqirha, oogqirha. Le yimisebenzi eqhelekileyo yamadoda. Oko kukuthi, amagorha okwenyani kwi-cinema akasuswanga. Ndikholelwe. Amaqhawe okwenyani ahlala ebomini bokwenyani. Umzekelo, umqhubi wenqwelomoya otyale inqwelomoya kwicandelo le-CRN kwaye wasindisa ubomi babantu, ogqirha ababeka impilo yabo esichengeni, basindisa ubomi bethu njalo njalo.
-Uyikhanyele i-fierieth yakho yamashumi amahlanu, iminyaka yobudala?
- Ewe, ivakala njani? Ngoku ndinika udliwanondlebe, ndilele kwisofa, ndibukele umabonwakude, nditya ukutya okumnandi, ndityhafisa isisu, ngokubanzi, ndiziva ndilungile. Kulunge kakhulu. (Uhleka.)
-Uthini uthando lwamadoda? Uthanda ntoni, ngaba ikhona into oyithandayo?
-Ndisanda kutsha nje ukudluliselwa malunga no-Everest, owoyikekayo! Ewe kunjalo, ndinokuphakama, ndiyazithanda iintaba, ndiyayithanda imithi, ihlathi, ndiyathanda iimoto, izithuthuthu, izixhobo, iinqwelomoya. Ndiyayithanda yonke into. Yonke into engahambelani nobugcisa. Kuba xa ungaphezulu kweminyaka engamashumi amathathu kubugcisa, usenokudinwa yiyo. Nokuba yeyiphi na i-borch emnandi, ngenye imini yayikhe yafuna ukuzama okanye i-oars.
"Kum," ingoma yesiRussia "ithiyethi yethiyetha lilikhaya lesibini. Ndiyavuma ngaphezu kwabo, andiziva ndikhululekile. "
Masiphange
-Uyintoni ifunyenwe kunyaka ophelileyo?
-Uyiprinta?
- Ewe, ewe, kodwa yintoni enye?
-Umntu, ngokungaqiqiyo uyithethile. (Ukuhleka.) Ngoku ndiza kucacisa, kuphela uya kuthi emva koko uya kucinga kakuhle ngale nto. Ke, nyaniseka. Ubuncinci imizuzu emihlanu. Kunyaka ophelileyo, umqhubi wenqwelomoya, oye wala yonke i-ofisi kwindiza, akazange adinwe, akazange asisile, wayengamsindisanga, wayekreqwa kwentliziyo, kodwa elawulwa Ukutyala inqwelomoya kwingqolowa kwaye gcina bonke abagibeli beline. Kwaye kulo nyaka iMagazini ye-GQ inike ibhaso lonyaka hayi kulo msebenzi wenqwelomoya, kodwa iJeria Dudu Dudu Get. Lena Yinyaniso? Oko kwamangaliswa ndim. Kakhulu kakhulu. Apha bhala, nceda.
-Ngokuba uluntu luthanta umntu oneendaba ...
-Ubona, lixabiso lezinto zonke. Emva koko, indlu yam yinqaba yam, kwaye iinkolelo zam ziinkolelo zam, kwaye andisokuze ndiyamkele. Ukuba kwimagazini, ukwazi ukuba zenzeke zenzekile, indoda yonyaka iba le le currade, ke, guys, uxolo. Kodwa ngenxa yoku, ndenze izigqibo ezilungileyo kakhulu, endiza kundinceda kubomi bexesha elizayo ndibe namandla ngakumbi.
-Uyinto ethambileyo? Ngaba uyakholelwa kwi-fake encwadini?
-Angaphezulu, kulungile, uyazi ukuba akukho nto ingekhoyo, kungekho kwimeko, kunokubakho ebomini, akuyi kudlula ngaphezulu. Ikamva Yintoni esilindeleyo kwindawo yokuphela. Singenza nantoni na, sinokutshintsha ikamva lethu (okanye njengoko uthanda igama). Unokuba nethamsanqa, unokuwa kwinto elungileyo okanye embi. Kodwa ekugqibeleni iya kuba yenzeke. Ke ngoko kukho amazwi kaThixo, kwaye unje, kulungile, kodwa kukho uhlobo oluthile lwenjongo ephezulu. Ukuba umntu ukwazile ukuba uphila iminyaka elikhulu elinamashumi amahlanu, unokuthi ebomini unokutshintsha into, kodwa ugweba konke, akukho mntu unethamsanqa, kwikhulu elinamashumi amathandathu okanye kwikhulu elinesibini ubudala Fumana thina kwelinye inqanaba elifihlakeleyo. Ngamafutshane, siya kwenza yonke into. Kwaye ke akukho namnye umntu okwazile ukutshintsha isiphelo kakhulu, kodwa abaninzi bangayithanda, kwaye bangaphumi. (Zihleka.) Ngenxa yoko, ukungavumeli kuya kuba yindlovu ngakumbi, okanye i-Kog-ewe! Okufanayo ngekamva.
-Ukubandezeleka wakubonisa isipho, ngaba unentombi yaseMaria, uyathanda ntoni namhlanje?
- Intomba? Sele nditshitshisiwe. Kwisikolo se-schukinsky esifundayo. Qhubeka ukuqhubeka? Wayengahambi emanyathelweni katata, kodwa kwicala elinye.
-Kukholisa?
-Uye ntoni intombi ekwindawo ye-Madman? (Ukuhleka.) Hayi kakhulu. (Uhleka.)
Malunga nabanikazi kunye namarhe
- Ngaba unabo abo banesifo esininzi?
-Ndicinga njalo, kakhulu. Ndiye ngandlel 'ithile ayinxibelelani nabo, kodwa ndiyaqikelela.
-Ngaba uziva njani malunga nehemulum engathandekiyo ngawe, i-hleks emdaka, ngaba uzama ukukhusela abantu obathandayo kubo?
- Emkupheleni kwam, ndiyabulela kuThixo, ndiyazi kakuhle. Ke ngoko, bahlala behleli, ukuba ichanekile ukuthi, ngxaki. Kwaye xa kuvela inani elingasebenziyo ngam, ukuze ndithethe, iindaba ezingenalo ulwalamano olukhethekileyo kum, ezingakhange zifundwe, azinakwenzeka, zithi abantu bayaphambana. Kwaye ndinxibelelana njani? Andiyo inkxaso yento abayithethayo, nje ukuba ungayilibali. Andinamdla kum. Kodwa ixesha elide, sele likhona indawo engamashumi amahlanu, hayi, hayi ewe ndizijonga esipilini. Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo ndiyazi kakuhle, ngaphezu komntu ongaphezulu komntu onokuba nobutsha. Umahluko phakathi kwento endiyiyo kwaye imbizeni enye, enkulu. Ngokubanzi, ndinezinto ezibaluleke ngakumbi. Ke ngoku ndinayo iKefir xa wayesiya, kwaye ngoku ndinejusi yeorenji. Kwaye ke ndicinga, ndisele ngaphezulu kunye nejusi. Le yingxaki kum.
"Indawo ye-palatical okanye indawo yokudubula ifana nenkwenkwe kunye nentombazana eSapho"
-Ukuhambelana kwengxaki?
- Ewe, njengoko idibanisa neKefir. (Ukuhleka.) Ndiyigcine esandleni sam, ngqo kwifriji, kwaye ndiyacinga. Isasela. Uyabanda, ngomkhenkce. Kudala ndiphuhlise ikhulu leerint ukungazizuzo ezivela kuzo zonke ezi zinto zintle. Bendihlala ndingaqondi de kube sekupheleni kwebinzana: "Kwaye ngoobani abagwebi?" Kwaye ngoku ndiyaqonda ngokuthe ngqo.
-Uyinto eyedwa? Ingaba uyiza kwikamva?
- Ilizwe liya kuphila, kwaye akukho ezinye izinto ezixhalabisayo! Ufuna ukuyibona njani ekukhanyeni kwemicimbi yakutshanje, uyabona, ndisenokwenzeka ukuba ndingumntu ondala. Ndihlala kwiminyaka engaqondakaliyo eBrezhnev. Ndikhumbula ilizwe lahlala. Ndiyazi ukuba akukho ngxelo, ndihleli kwindlu yangasese kwaye nditshixe izandla zakho, iindaba ezinqabileyo ze-iPhone, iindaba ezinqabileyo, andazi ukuba. Kwaye ndiyazi ngayo, kuba bendiphila yonke imihla ngelo xesha, wonke umphefumlo. Yonke imihla ndibone yonke into ngamehlo am. Ndikhumbula kakuhle indlela esaphila ngayo kude kube yiminyaka engama-80. Xa iOlimpiki yayiqhutywa. Kwaye ubunkokeli be-USSR owenziwe kwilizwe apho lwasikhokelela khona. Kwenzeka ntoni xa ndivela emkhosini, yayineminyaka engama-89 ubudala, kwaye kwenzeka ntoni ukuqala ngo-1991 ukuya ku-2001. Ishumi leminyaka yayisinda ebomini. Sasikwimiphetho yenzonzobila, inzonzobila, apho amanye amazwe awela khona akakhethwanga. Sasiqhekekile ukusebenzisa izikhokelo zethu ezibuthathaka kunye namahlakani aseNtshona. Xa ndandineminyaka engama-20 ukuya kwengama-30, bekuya kubonakala ngathi, sebenza, sebenza kwaye uyila. Kodwa le minyaka idlulisele emgceni - i-grey grey. Xa bekungekho mntu wayesazi, namhlanje kuya kubakho ukutya okanye akuyi kuhlawula iinyanga ezintathu ubuncinci umvuzo onosapho okanye ungabhatali, kwakukho i-gangsters yonke imihla. Andizukuxelela. Kwaye emva koko kwafika incwadana yangoku. Njengoko siye saphila le minyaka imashumi mabini, apho sasikhona kwaye siphi ngoku. Abantu abaninzi abazi le nto. Kwanamadoda amane, babengekho kwi-90s. Babeneminyaka eli-18 ubudala. Abazange bayiqonde into eyenzekayo. Kodwa ngenxa yesizathu esithile, bafuna nje ukutshabalalisa yonke into emhlabeni ngoku, emva koko ... kwaye kutheni sisebenze kangangeminyaka engama-20 ukuze siphile? Uhlala kwinto ohlala kuyo. Ewe, awuyithandi into. Ndiyaqonda ngokugqibeleleyo, kufuneka usebenze. Ezinye iingxaki zisombulula. Kodwa thatha, abantu basibiza njani entshonalanga? Yintoni, kwakhona ukwenza yonke into kwakhona? Akukho sidingo sokutshabalalisa yonke into, kubalulekile ukuphucuka. Kufuneka utshintshe into, ukuvula into, ukuvala into - phucula! Andikhumbuli ukuba kwelinye lawona mazwe aphuhlileyo aseYurophu, eJamani, bayitshabalalisa yonke into kwaye batshatyalalisiwe. Aphucuka ngabom yonke imihla. Akukho mntu ubeka itshabalalisile isiseko seNdlu. Hayi. Ngokusekwe kwizithethe ezizona zilungileyo, zisaphucuka. Kungenxa yokuba nje emva kokuba utshabalalisa ikhaya lakho, uza kundinika malini, ungayibuyisela ntoni? Ngenxa yokuba umoya onamandla uvuthuza, i-hatch ayiyi kukhatywa, uphangwe. Wazi njani ukuba yonke into iza kusebenza? Ke ngoko, umnqweno wam omkhulu, ngaphandle kwento yokuba ngoku kukho iingxaki ezininzi ezichazwe ukuze singafundiswanga ngabasebenzi abaneminyaka engama-23 ubudala abanokuphila njani ngokuchanekileyo. Yindlela endifuna ukuba nengqondo eyaneleyo yokuqonda ukuba luhlobo luni lwabantu abaphezulu ababazi kakhulu kwaye, mhlawumbi, mncinci kakhulu. Ke ngoko, masihlonele abadala, sibancede, bathande, kwaye mhlawumbi ngelo xesha baya kubandakanya nabo abancinciKe loo nto kamva yayingekuko kuphela ukuba uza kuzisa iglasi yamanzi, kodwa ne-kefir ngejusi yeorenji. (Uhleka.)
Ishishini le-palatical
-Namhlanje ubandakanyeka kwimidlalo yemidlalo yeqonga ye-fabkina, ufike njani apho?
-Ndiyimenyiwe yi-nidezhda Georgievna. Kwindima encinci. Isebenze iminyaka eliqela. Emva koko wanika enye indima. Kaninzi. Kwaye ke ndisebenze kwiithiyetha ezininzi. Kukho intetho enjalo, ishushu: "Ithiyetha ifana nekhaya lesibini." Ke kum, "ingoma" yaseRussia "ithiyethi yethiyetha inyani. Ndiyavuma ngaphezu kwabo, andiziva ndikhululekile. Ndifudumele, ndingqongwe bububele nokuzinikela kwisizukulwana esitsha. Uya kwindawo yemidlalo yeqonga, kwaye ayifumaneka njani ngokufudumeleyo kwiwotshi, ikwasiphelo kwi-ofisi yomlawuli, wonke umntu ngolungileyo, kwazenzekile. Ngqo andifuni ukuba ndingawenzi bubuso kubumdaka. Zithethele zonke izinto owabelwe kum.
-Umdlalo "ubusuku bangaphambi kwe-mesch christmas" udlala uphawu. Iinkolelo azicacanga kuwe? Akucaci ukuba akunzima ukudlala, yizame ngokwakho? Awoyiki nto?
-Ndinendawo elungileyo. UngumKristu, unobubele, ubuhle.
- Yintoni eyatsala umdla wokuqala kubo bonke kule ndima?
- Uyaqonda, le yiGogol, kunjalo, phakathi kwetyala. Lo ngomnye wababhali endibathandayo. Kwaye ayisiyiyo intandokazi yam, kodwa nezinto ezizigidi zabantu kwihlabathi liphela. Okwesibini, ndiyagxininisa, le yithiyetha yethemba uGeorgievna. Ewe, isimemo sayo ngokwayo sisihlobo seebhlog ezinjalo. Ke ndifanelekile. Kwaye intle kakhulu. Ke ngoko yenzekile Yinyani. Ewe, ndibize ngesi sizathu sokuba ndifuna ukuyeka isigwebo esinjalo? Apho unokusebenzela simahla. Kwaye konke ngenxa yolonwabo. Ayimangalisi ke into yokuba le qonga lemidlalo eMoscow namhlanje lelona lifunwayo. Kukho izinto ezahlukeneyo zokuthabatha, umntu uya eFuffy, ndiye ndohlutha ngokukhethekileyo nditsho ifani ukuze kungaqondakali, umntu uthanda ukufunda, kwaye umntu othanda iklasi. Uninzi lwabantu lufuna ukukholelwa ukuba ukuba uya eGgol, awuyi kufumana, qiniseka ukuba iphunyezwe. Sinjani? Uya kwi-gogol kuthi, fumana iGogol. Le poster ayikhohlisi. Kwaye eyona nto ibalulekileyo kukuba inani elikhulu labanye abadlali basebenza naye ngolonwabo. Kwaye irente yeqonga kuba wonke umntu ofuna ukudlala, njengoko benditshilo apha ngasentla, kuba zonke iinkonzo, kunye nethiyetha ebendiyiliqonononga eli Lizwi, linani elikhulu lemisifundisane, yonke into Kwaye yonke into isebenza apha. Icacile kwaye isebenze. Nabani na ubuza osebenzisana nethemba laseGeorgievna Babibina Akukho silayi, akunangxaki. Weza ke, wasebenza, wanqonqobhe, yena, umbukeli, ekhohlo. Kulungile into enokungcono. Kum, eli libali elifanelekileyo. Ewe, hlawula imali ngayo.
"Andikho nayiphi na inethiwekhi kwaye akukho ngxaki kule nto ayiziva"
-Uyikhankle ukuba ukulungele ukusebenza nzima phantsi kweemeko ezithile, ngaphandle kwemivuzo, kukho amaxesha afanayo ebomini bakho xa uvumile ukusebenza simahla?
Lo gama nje ndingazange ndilambe kwimiboniso yeTV yeTV kwaye ngandlela ithile yaqala ukufumana indawo ethile, ndasebenza iminyaka engama-35 ndayifumana i-Theatre. (Uhleka.) Yonke imihla.
-Ngaba yintoni isondele kwindawo enkulu - indawo enkulu okanye indawo yokudubula? Yintoni umahluko kuwe?
-Ifana nenkwenkwe kunye nentombazana entsatsheni. Uthanda ntoni ngaphezulu? Yonke le nto. Konke kuxhomekeke kum ... hayi, hayi. Ndingacebisa ukuba ndidlale ngomso ubuncinci igendi, kodwa ukuba uMlawuli okanye amahlakani aya kuba nokungathathi ntweni kum okanye ongathandekiyo, andiyi kuyenza le nto. Oku ndithetha ngokusemthethweni. Abantu babalulekile kum. I-POPFAY inokuphuma, ingasebenzi, kodwa abantu, bapho apho, okanye abakho. Banovelwano nawe, njengokuba unezinto eziqhelekileyo, izinto ozithandayo okanye iimbono zehlabathi, iinkolelo zezopolitiko, okanye akunjalo. Ke ngoko, eyona nto iphambili kukuba kukho inkampani elungileyo, kuba emva kwentsebenzo ye-premeere kufuneka iqatshelwe. Kwaye kunye neentshaba zenye, ziya kuba yinto engaqhelekanga. Kwaye hlamba intsebenzo yinxalenye ebalulekileyo yentsebenzo. (Uhleka.) Ngaphandle kwayo nangayiphi na indlela. Ewe, nangayiphi na imeko, kwangaphambili.
- Ngaba uyazithoba ngokuzolileyo?
-Andiboni naziphi na iingxaki, kuba ndiyazi ukuba uninzi lwamanani abalulekileyo ehlabathi ngeHollywood uye kwimikhosi. Umzekelo, kwano Robert Downey Jr. wayezama indima yendoda ye-iron. Kwaye kuya kubonakala ngathi, kuba eyinkwenkwezi yeMega, ukuba imbukele, kodwa ... ngenxa yoko, le yinxalenye yomsebenzi obalulekileyo. Kwaye ukuya kuthi ga kwinkcitho kufuneka ilungiselelwe. Kwi-wokuphosa kuyimfuneko ukuzama ukuzibonakalisa ubuninzi. Omnye umbuzo kukuba, kumava am, ndiyazi ukuba, ngamanye amaxesha uyeza, ungakulungeni, awucingi ukuba imvume kwindima, kwaye uthatha. Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha bayatshutshiswa, womile, ulungiselela, ucinga ukuba ilunge ngakumbi kunabo bonke, kodwa abakhumbuli ngawe. Eli lilottery enkulu kakhulu. Ngoku, ngelishwa, mhlawumbi, abavelisi abayi kundavumela ukuba ndihlale, ayisiyo inqanaba elibaluleke kakhulu lokusebenza, lingakanani inqanaba leendaba. Zingaphi iindwendwe onazo apho kwiithayile zentlalo kunye nezinye izinto. Kodwa ndiyaphela ngaphandle kwawo. Ndikhululekile koku kwaye ke wonwabile. Andikho kuyo nayiphi na inethiwekhi kwaye akukho ngxaki koku sukuziva. Andikulungelanga ukuveza ubomi bam yonke imihla. Owokuqala kumyeni wam wonke, utata, hayi ibhlogger eLizwini ukuba lityala.
- Kwaye, ngoku, ngokombono wakho, nguMlawuli okanye ungumphathi okanye umlingisi ofunekayo?
-Iisampuli ziyafuneka kubo bonke. Ziyimfuneko kubavelisi, kuba kufuneka baqonde ukuba yintoni isongelo phakathi kwabadlali abayekileyo. Iisampulu ziyafuneka, ewe, umlawuli ukuze aqonde ukuba uza kuthini emva koko. Yinto enye, wenza ngokobuqu, kwaye enye into - umntu ongaziwayo ophumayo, ngekhe wazi ukuba yintoni, kwaye uyaphambana, uyathanda ukubaleka kwiiyadi zangaphantsi. Zonke iintlobo zingabadlali. Ewe, umlingisi kufuneka azibonakalise, ukubona ukuba ngubani na oza kusebenza naye. Eli libali eliyingenelo. Wonke umntu uyayifuna. Eyakhiwe ngokuphosa ukuqonda imeko yeCVO.
-Uhlala ubuyiselwe kwindima ecetywayo okanye "onimamelele", ucinga ukuba lo ngumsebenzi wakho kwaye umdlali weqonga wenza ntoni?
- Ibali lam lonke, njengoko ndikhumbula, andikhange ndinikele into enjalo ndiza kuthi: "Owu! Andikwazi ukudlala ukuba icawa! " Ngamafutshane, abantwana abatyekanga, hayi amanwin. Yonke enye into plus plus-thabatha inokudlalwa.
-Uvume, Indima yakho kumanqaku eTV "I-cops yendlela" ikunceda kubomi bemihla ngemihla, umzekelo, xa uqhuba, uyayeka?
-Ungalunganga. (Ihleka.) Kwaye kakhulu. Ngesizathu esithile, abaninzi bakholelwa ukuba ukuba ndidlala ipolisa lendlela, ndinohlobo oluthile lokuwela phambi komthetho. Oku kukukhohlisa. Ndikhala intlawulo ukuba uyaphula. Kwaye kwiiposti, xa ufumanisa, aba bantu bacela ifoto nam. Kwaye intle kakhulu kum. Ngokwenyani. Ewe, njani?