Nika garcalina na pavel akimkin hamwe imyaka icumi kandi bashakanye kumugaragaro. Umubano wabo watangiye mubihe bibi cyane kuri Niki: Papa wa mbere urwaye cyane, Valery garkalin, hanyuma ava muri Mama. Kandi iyo nkunga n'ibyishimo umukinnyi ukiri muto yamuhaye, yafashije kwimuka. Noneho umuhungu wabo Timoteyo yari afite imyaka itandatu. Ibi birori byabaye umunezero mwinshi kandi kuri valery garkalina. Nick mumbwe wa Data ntiyigeze aho, ariko nta the materi yashoboye, nuko mpinduka muri CDR hamwe numugabo we, nukumenya, na Pawulo aracyamenya ikinira ku cyiciro cya teatre yamahanga hanyuma wandikira umuziki kubikorwa. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe nomero yo muri Kamena yikinyamakuru Ikinyamakuru Ikinyamakuru.
- Kuki wahisemo gusinya?
NIKA: Byari icyemezo cya Pashino, kandi narabyemeye. Yampaye urugendo rwo Copenhagen iminsi isabukuru, twazengurukaga umujyi, hanyuma kubwimpamvu runaka yagiye mu gace kabera nziza cyane. Pasha yatangiye kuvuga amagambo meza, aba ivi imbere yanjye maze atanga igitekerezo. Mubisanzwe, namubwiye ko nzabitekerezaho, kandi nyuma yumunota umwe ndamusubiza. (Aseka.)
Pavel: Nashakaga gusa gutanga impano. Mubyukuri, twasobanukiwe ko bitinde bitebuke, kandi natekereje nti: "Kuki utabikora ubu? Turimo gukurura iki? " Icyemezo cyo gutanga umubano wacu ntabwo cyari gifite uburyo bwo gukomeza cyangwa ubushotoranyi. Nari nizeye muri njye, no muri Nick. Ibintu byose byumvikanyweho mubuzima bwacu.
- Ntabwo wicujije umunota nabuze umudendezo mugihe gito gihagije?
Pavel: Ntabwo. Ninde ukeneye, uku kwidegembya? Niki? Sinshobora kuvuga ko hari umusore-umusore runaka, kandi umudendezo wari unkeneye.
"Pasha yari iruhande rwanjye mugihe kitoroshye. Nahise mbarika ko uwo muntu adateye ubwoba. "
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Nick, kandi ntabwo wicujije guhitamo kwawe?
NIKA: Oya, uri iki! Pasha yari iruhande rwanjye mugihe kitoroshye mugihe papa yari afite agaciro kandi bari i Lituwaniya hamwe na nyina. Twakoranye, akenshi twabonye, tuvugana kandi hari ukuntu bidashoboka, yatangiye kunyitaho. Sinigeze numva ibintu nk'ibyo mu buzima bwanjye usibye ababyeyi na basogokuru. Hanyuma, iyo byagaragaye ko Mama yihanganye kandi ntiyabishaka, ntiyanshyigikiye gusa, ahubwo yampagikiye. Yafashe ku bitugu umuryango wacu wose, mu byukuri aracyari undi. Twebwe amezi atandatu ntabwo twari kumwe. Kandi ndibuka uko namubwiye nti: "Pasha, ntukeneye kubana nanjye gusa kubera ko mfite ibihe bitoroshye. Iyi ni inshingano nini cyane. " Ibyo Pasha yashubije cyane ati: "Iyo ntashakaga, sinabikora." Kubwibyo, sinicuza ibyo ntari kwicuza, ariko nahise mbyumva neza ko ntakintu cyatinyaga nuyu muntu. Kandi ntiyigeze ashidikanya kuri ibi.
- Pasha mugihe watangiye kubana, ni iki wafunguye muri Nick?
Pavel: Mbere y'ibyo, ntabwo namuzi na gato, kandi iyo nize, nta kintu nabonaga nabonaga. Numutungo umwe uhamye (amwenyura.) Muri Nicky, ikintu nkiki cyatejwe imbere nkubumuntu, no mubuzima bwumuryango ni ngombwa. Iyo wumva ari bike, urashobora kwigomwa ibyifuzo byawe no gukora nkuko ushaka ikindi. Kandi ibi bihenze cyane.
- Nick, mugihe cyo kubyara Pasha na we yagushyigikiye?
NIKA: Amatwi yanjye arangiye, Pasha ntabwo yari i Moscou, twagize umushinga munini ". Naryamye kuri sofa hamwe na mudasobwa ku nda, ariko sinigeze numva ko ndi jyenyine. Pasha yuzuza umwanya wanjye wose, agenzurwa n'ibikorwa byanjye no kuri Skype, ndetse n'abakobwa bakobwa. (Aseka.) Kandi yashoboye kuza gusohoka gusa.
- Kandi mugihe gifite inshingano nyinshi, wanahuye na Pasha?
NIKA: Mu kanya kuringaniza - oya. . Iki ni ibitaro by'ababyeyi. " Ibintu byose byabaye, Pasha yakinnye ikinamico, maze amaze impaka, umuyobozi wa Volodepa Pankov yatangaje ko umuhungu yavukiye i Pavel Akimkin, maze Abasuwisi bose barabisebya, nk'uko yabivuze, nk'uko yabibwiye, nk'uko yabibwiye, nk'uko yabivuze.
"Mu izina, ikintu nk'iki cyatejwe imbere nk'icyubahiro, kandi mu buzima bwumuryango ni ngombwa."
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Nick, ufite mbere yuko Pasha yari afite uburambe bwo gushyingirwa, bitandukanye rwose ...
NIKA: Nibyo, bibaho ko abantu bibeshye. N'umugabo wanjye wa mbere, umucuranzi, arubatse neza, ubu aba muri Isiraheli, yavutse kandi umwana. Kuri twe twe twembi nkaho iyo ishyingiranwa atari ryo. Ntabwo ntekereza ko ari byiza kugereranya ikintu, ariko numva rwose ko ibintu byose bitandukanye.
Ati: "Njye gusa ko mu muryango wawe umuyobozi yari umubyeyi, kandi papa muburyo bwiza bwari buherereye munsi ya kabili yoroshye ...
NIKA: Byari byiza kuri bose. (Aseka.) Njye mbona mbona ko iyi ari ubwenge bwumugore. Ntabwo nahamagaye mama Umuyobozi, yari umusingi wumuryango, igitugu gikomeye abantu bose begereye kugaragara. Birumvikana ko ibibazo bimwe byo murugo byari bimaze kuri yo, ariko kandi yagishije inama papa.
- Igihe Mams atabikoze, wabayeho byose hamwe ...
NIKA: Yego, imyaka irenga ibiri. Mbere y'ibyo, nabaga ukundi, ariko igihe mama yapfaga, twari muri Papa. Agumayo. Ndibuka uburyo namubonye rimwe imbere ya microwave. Ashyira ahagaragara, afunga akahagarara ... byaragaragaye ko atazi kubihindura. Ni ukuvuga, yari akeneye ubufasha mubintu bisanzwe byo murugo, tutibagiwe no kubaho neza mu mwuka no kumubiri. Kandi twabayeho cyane. Pasha byinjiye rwose umwanya winzu yacu no mu buzima bwa papa, borohewe byoroshye umubano. Kubera iyo mpamvu, ntidushobora kugenda igihe kirekire. Twagiye hamwe na papa murugendo. Kandi twagize urugendo rwiza rwose muri Paris.
- Nawe mumuryango wawe, birashoboka, Pasha - Umutwe?
NIKA: Kuri njye mbona tuba muri demokarasi. Sinshobora no kwibuka ibintu twagendanye cyangwa twatsindiye umubano. Birumvikana ko hariho inzika, ariko zirarakaye cyane kandi zisa nkisetsa igihe cyagenwe, kuko, nkitegeko, zifitanye isano numunaniro cyangwa bidakwiye.
- Ninde muri mwe urushaho kumarangamutima kandi wihuta cyane?
Pavel: Nuburyo twaba dusobanuye, ariko icyarimwe, Imana ishimwe, gasigazwa vuba. Ntucike intege na gato, bisa naho bidashoboka kuri njye. Ikintu nyamukuru ntabwo ari utandukanye kurindikirwa nabi. Ohereza murugo, usige umuntu umwe mubiryo - pogano.
Kugaragara kwumva byari umunezero mwinshi kuri Valeriya garkalina
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Nick, Pasha akora cyane. Wowe n'umuhungu urabuze?
NIKA: Birumvikana ko bidahagije, kuko burigihe ushaka kumarana nabantu ukunda, igihe kinini. Pasha afite akazi gakomeye kandi murakoze Imana, kuko idafite akazi yambaye. Nanjye ubwanjye nkora muri theatre kandi ndumva neza icyo igihe cyo gutanga impamyabumenyi aricyo cyo kwandika umuziki nigihe bisaba. Ariko nanone, iyo mgeze kubikorwa, aho Pasha yaterega umuziki, akenshi ukomoka kuri Serge Zemliyansky, numva numva ubwibone kandi sinumva igihe yashoboye kubikora. Niba Pasha afite igice cyisaha imwe, azayitangira byimazeyo Umwana wayo. Muri iki gitondo, barimo kurohama, hamwe bakusanyije "Lego" kandi bategura ifunguro rya mu gitondo. Nizere ko umwana azakura akavuga ko papa yakoraga igihe cyose.
- Hariho kandi ikiruhuko, ingendo ...
NIKA: Nibyo, dukunda gutembera cyane. Nishimiye nka Pasha muribi nibyiza rwose. Muri buri muryango, ingengo yimari ikwirakwizwa muburyo bwayo: Umuntu yubaka murugo, umuntu asubika, kandi ababyeyi banjye bafite amafaranga yigeze kugenda ingendo. Ikintu cya mbere bakoze igihe amahirwe yagaragaye, yanyohereje imyaka cumi nine i Londres muguhana nishuri, nyuma y'amezi atandatu - i New York ku nshuti yanjye. Iyo bafite iminsi itatu yubuntu, bicara mu ndege baraguruka, urugero, muri Noruveje, kandi niba icyumweru, bahisemo inshuti i New York. Na Pasha, kuva igisirikare cya papa, yabaga muri Esitoniya, no muri Danimarike, no ku rubibe. Kandi afite ireme ryihariye - ni umuntu wisi ufunguye. Ashishikajwe nibintu byose, ibihangano byose, ibintu bishya. Turagerageza byibuze rimwe mumezi atandatu mucyumweru cyangwa babiri tujya ahantu, fata imodoka ningendo.
- ntuzigera uruhuka udafite tynomos?
Pavel: Tutamufite twagiye rimwe gusa muri Amerika. Ariko ibiruhuko birebire ntibivanga. Mugihe twumva dufite batatu. Kuri njye mbona urukundo ruri kumwe na Nick no kubaho. Kubwibyo, gucogora gukenera kuruhuka hamwe dufite.
- Urahurira mubyo ukunda bijyanye n'ahantu ho kwidagadura no kwidagadura hariya?
NIKA: Ntabwo mubyukuri. Ariko urashobora kubona byoroshye kumvikana, nko muri byose. Pasha akunda imisozi, ibiyaga, kuruhuka kuruhuka kandi bitagira iherezo. Kandi ndasenga inyanja, kandi ndashaka kuba nibura icyumweru ahantu hamwe. (Aseka.) Umwaka ushize wari muri Sloveniya. Bagurutse i Ljubljana, bafata imodoka batwara imisozi. Bahatuye, hanyuma bazenguruka akarere, hanyuma bamara icyumweru ku nyanja. Ndetse na Pasha yishimira gukodesha amazu, bisa nkaho ari nkaho mubayeho ubuzima bwuyu mujyi, igihugu, kandi nkunda amahoteri, ifunguro rya mugitondo, ni umuhango udasanzwe kuri njye. Kubera iyo mpamvu, twabanaga mu misozi yo ku misozi, kandi inyanja iri mu nzu. Ukutumvikana kwose birashobora gushirwaho nikibazo kinini niba uhagaze wenyine.
Umuryango wose wishimiye gutembera hamwe, gufungura ibihugu bishya na horizons
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Pasha byoroshye gusura?
NIKA: Nibyo, ntabwo abitayeho byose. Ubuzima butangira kurya abantu, bararakaye, batsimbarara kubeshya. Nkunda kugarura gutumiza, shyira ibintu byose bikikije amakishyo. Ariko dufite icyo kurya niba umuntu adafite umwuka wo kugira isuku. Ndimo gutegura rimwe muminsi ibiri cyangwa itatu, kandi ibi byose biribwa nibyishimo. Pasha irashobora gukora ifunguro rya mugitondo. Kurugero, timofey arya papa gusa yambaye amagi.
Pavel: Nkunda kandi ubuziranenge, ariko ntabwo kugeza kuri paranoia. Kandi sinzigera nyerekana izina. Ajugunya ibyuya rimwe ibyuya hasi, neza, kubwImana. (Amwenyura.) Niba birambabaza, nzayikuraho. Umufasha ahuze rimwe mu cyumweru afasha hamwe nibibazo tutoroshye kubona: kurekura imyenda yose y'imbere, kwimura amagorofa, speata. Ariko muri rusange, ikintu nyamukuru ntabwo kiri mumyanda. (Aseka.)
- Waba uri muto kandi ubana nababyeyi?
Pavel: Kuri njye mbona buri gihe nahisemo cyane. Mu bwana, kimwe n'abana bose, ntabwo byakunzwe rwose, kandi muri hostel yariye, kimwe nabandi, byari bimeze. Nshobora kurya ukwezi. Inshuti zanjye, aseka, yaravuze ati: "Kuri Akimkin muri firigo aho buri gihe hariho Mayonnaise, ibinure, amavuta n'amata ya kawa." Umugwaneza. Kandi nika arimo gutegura gukwirakwiza, nubwo yemera ko afite amasahani yose - yoroshye.
- Ibi bivuze ko mubibazo byinshi uri conservateur? Ibi bifitanye isano no kwidagadura, imyenda, hamwe no gutandukana?
Pavel: Ibi ni byiza rwose. Nanga guta ibintu, nshobora kugenda muri uwo mwaka. Niba batanduye, ntabwo nahindukaga na gato. Ariko ubu nize buri munsi kwambara ikintu gishya. Imana ishimwe, wardrobe ntabwo ari nini cyane: ibintu bitatu cyangwa bine nhinduka buri munsi.
- Pasha, na Nicky bafite ingeso zose uzahinduka?
Pavel: Hindura ... oya. Hariho ibintu bito, kurugero, agiye ahantu hashize, ariko biranshimisha kuruta kurakara. Arambajije igihe cyose ati: "Nabishobora nte?" Kandi ubu nkuvuga nti: "Nibyiza cyane." Akeneye gusa kuvuga ko bidakenewe gupima ishati kaburindi ukajya muriyi, ni mwiza. Noneho arabikunda ako kanya.
- Ufite nanny?
NIKA: Nibyo, kuko Timoshi ntabwo ijya mubusitani. Byongeye kandi, igihe yari afite amezi umunani, nahamagaye umukobwa wanjye inshuti z'ababyeyi maze mvuga ko asize umugabo we mu Butaliyani, kandi umubyambi agomba kuguma mu muryango! Noneho Tatiana ninshuti magara ya Timoteyo numuntu kavukire kuri twe.
Noneho Timoteyo imyaka itandatu, kandi pesk ye yakundaga Benya afite imyaka ibiri
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Kandi kugeza amezi umunani wihanganiye ubwacu?
NIKA: Nibyo, nubwo byari bigoye, kuko Timmoshka ntiyasinziriye, ariko kuri njye inzozi ni ngombwa. Pasha, nubwo mu gitondo yari akeneye gukora, yakoresheje amajoro adasinziriye, aramfasha cyane. Kimwe na Mashin Mama, na Marina, mushiki wa se, na papa. Yashoboraga kuza mumunota we wubusa, fata acecekere akajya gutembera isaha imwe. Igihe kirataka, aramufata mu ntoki, arahagarika arasuka. Bafite umubano utoroshye, batongana, bashyira hamwe, kuko bisa, ariko nibi byose ni urugwiro. Vuba aha, papa yari arembye cyane, Timosh yari afite impungenge cyane, uko yabisobanukiwe kubera imyaka yayo. Tugeze ku kazu, abona sekuru yasohotse ngo dusange, yiruhande rwe ati: "Sogokuru, ntabwo ari byinshi."
- Ivuka rya Timoshi ryahinduye ikintu mubucuti bwawe?
NIKA: Umugore wese mubisanzwe ajya muriyi miterere mishya yububyeyi iyo wumva ko utagihabwa aho ushaka, kora icyo ushaka. Ntabwo nahuye nuwo mukobwa ko utazajugunywa, ariko urabimenyera. Ntabwo nagiye kubyerekeranye na gato, byari akazi gakabije. Pasha yari afite ikibazo gikomeye mu nzu y'imikino y'amahanga "mu mashyamba". Ashobora kandi kunjyana, akajya mu iduka, akajyana imirimo yose yo mu rugo. Ariko twifuzaga ko umwana, aramutegereza, ntabwo cyari ibintu bidasanzwe.
- Pasha, igihe Timosh yavukaga, wigeze wumva ikintu gishya cyaje mubuzima bwawe?
Pavel: Ikintu cya mbere mvuye mu byumvikane bishya ni ubwoba bwagaragaye ako kanya igihe cyavukaga. Ibibwana byibasira igihe cyose urwanira ubwoba bumwe bumugaye. Ndetse no kutazongera kubaho kubuzima, ariko ugereranije na societe: Mu buryo butunguranye hari umuntu ubabaza cyangwa ikintu kibi kibaho? Mama yigeze kuvuga ati: "Ntutekerezeho, bitabaye ibyo, uzasara." Nabajije nti: "Mama, ariko ni gute utabitekerezaho?" "Kandi rero, hindura. Mfite ibiri, narokotse mu buryo runaka. " Isi yose, mubyukuri, ihinduka umwanda kuva avuka umwana. Hariho ibirwa bito byo kuruhuka, nibindi byose ni uburambe. Ariko iyo yegereje, numva ntuje.
Dukurikije Pawulo, umuhungu wa Timofey ni kopi ya Mama mu bwana. Nubwo ushobora kubona no gusa na Data
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Riki Garkalina na Pavel Akimkin
- Ninde mwarimu wawe wo hejuru, ukurikiza ubutegetsi, amasomo, indyo yumuhungu?
Pavel: Byose uzi Nick na Nanny yacu meza. Babonye uburyo runaka kuri we. By the way, twatekerezaga imyaka ine ko timofey ishobora kuryama neza icyarimwe, mugihe ababyeyi be, ni ukuvuga ko bitarabyuka kare. Umunsi umwe, yari ananiwe kandi aryamishije umunani nimugoroba, bukeye bwaho butuje, urugwiro kandi ntibakunze kubimenyesha nick: tugomba kugerageza kubishyira mu ki gihe. Byaragaragaye ko ari byiza kuri we. Kandi niba ndi murugo, dushobora kwicara ndeba firime hamwe na Nicky.
NIKA: Numwanya wabaye kugirango niba twembi dushaka kubona ubwoko bumwe na bumwe bwa firime cyangwa imikorere, ntabwo tubikora bitandukanye kugirango hatagira ubabaza. Niba Pasha afite indege ndende, yitegereza izo firime zidanshaka cyane. Kandi ndashobora kandi kubona Bridget Jones hamwe ninshuti. Nari kumwe n'umukunzi wanjye i New York, twagize urugendo rutangaje, ariko natekerezaga ko buri munota: "Ni mu buhe buryo adashobora kubona ikintu kimwe ni cyo." Kandi igihe mu myaka itanu, twasanze muri uyu mujyi hamwe, twagiye hamwe ahantu hamwe. Kandi narishimye.
Pavel: Nick arasekeje cyane kureba firime - ni igihe cyose muri terefone. Amanota atangira, kandi aragira ati: "Yoo! Nabonye uyu mukinnyi ahantu runaka, ubu, isegonda imwe, "kandi, rimwe na rimwe aramura amaso. Hano hari firime zimwe asubiza kuri terefone, ariko ibi bibaho gake cyane.
- Numubano wawe mwiza, ishyari kuri ntureba?
NIKA: Ntabwo nagize impamvu yo kubitekerezaho. Naho abakobwa, pasha bakobwa, noneho nishimiye kuba inshuti nabo. Hamwe na Julia, Peresild na Lena Nikolaova turi na bene wabo. Ni Imana y'abakobwa babo. Bafite inzira nziza, abantu bafite impano cyane, bakareba - umunezero. Twagize amahirwe hamwe na Pasha ninshuti. Yoroheje byo kwifatanya nanje, nanjye ndimo.
- Pasha, kandi uri umuntu ufite ishyari muri kamere?
Pavel: Mu gucirwa urubanza ku byahise, igihe cya Donikovsky, nagize ishyari. Noneho - oya, kubera ko umugore atampaye, uwambere, nta na rimwe ari impamvu, icya kabiri, nzi neza ko ari mu muntu. Kuri njye mbona kugirango nkubone, hagomba kubaho ikintu kibaho mubuzima bwacu ... Nizere ko ibi bitazigera bibaho.
- Ufite impano murugo rwawe?
NIKA: Yego! Pasha azi ko nkunda gutungurwa kandi ko ndimo gutunganye cyane. Niba ubonye impano mbere, atakaza inyungu zose. Kandi igihe cyose Pasha azana ikintu, nubwo, mbona ko bigoye cyane. Impano itazibagirana cyane ni urugendo rwacu rwo kujya muri Copenhagen, aho twari tumaze mbere n'aho byagaragaye neza ko umubano wacu wari ukomeye kuruta uko twabitekerezaga. Birumvikana ko nkuko umuntu yemera ko impano igomba kuba ingirakamaro, kandi yibitangaza uburyo ushobora kwishimira kuva impeta ijana na gatanu, ariko ndetse barabasanga bidasanzwe, uwashizeho. Ni imodoka. Kandi rero byari kuri njye murugo, kuko papa yamye yatugaruye impano za mama igihe nagiye ahantu runaka, yarabikoze ubu. Ibintu byanjye byiza byose - ni. Iyo mbibwiye: "Yoo, umwambaro wawe mwiza!", - Ndasubiza: "Papa yazanye." Buri gihe, natunguwe, azi ubunini bwanjye nibikunzwe, tutitaye ko nari nzi cyangwa gukira. Pasha ahitamo gutanga indi, kuko papa biragoye guhatana. Kuri njye mbona ko ntazatungura munsi yanjye. Dukunda gukora Timoteyo biratunguranye, duhe impano kandi nta mpamvu. Impano nazo nimwe mu ndangagaciro zacu.