Alexey Agranovich yavukiye mu muryango w'inyenyeri - Padiri, Mikhail agranovich, umukoresha wa firime uzwi. Mama, Emilia Kulik, kurimbuka kwa Radiyo yose - na sekuru, Leonid Agranovich, - umwanditsi, Umukinnyi, Umunana w'Ubuyobozi. Alexey ubwe yabaye umuyobozi, Producer, uwabitanze TV. Umuhango uwo ari wo wose, kuva kuri "Kinotava", na mmkf kuri protokole, ihinduka ibintu byiza kandi bishimishije. Vuba aha habaye intsinzi ya Agravanich mu mwuga ukora. Niki gihujwe no guhinduka, kimwe no guhurirwa hagati yimiterere yumugore we na phenomena yibidukikije nimpamvu imyaka y'ubusaza yo guhura muri Jeworujiya - mu kiganiro na kinyamakuru ".
"Alexey, ibyawe, muri iki gihe, kugaruka ku mwuga byahindutse. Ni ryari wafashe icyemezo cyo kwitabira urukurikirane rwa TV "isanzure", wibwiraga ko ari ikintu?
- Mubyukuri, sinitekereje na gato, nubwo, byagenze neza ari bonus nziza kumurimo. Kubera ko ntabwo natandukanije umwuga ukora kera cyane, byari bimwe mubyifuzo byambere bishimishije. Inyandiko ubwayo ni nziza cyane, iri risanzwe, wongeyeho alena zvangov - umuyobozi arakomeye, kandi anatanga Valery Valery Todorovsky n'abafatanyabikorwa beza. Muri rusange, inzozi zose. . Ntamuntu rero wari wizeye mubintu byose, twasobanukiwe nibintu byose dufite yo gutangira.
- Isumbabyose ivugwa ko yasimbuka, mbona, biteye ubwoba, cyane cyane kubijyanye no kwinjira kwa kabiri mumazi amwe ...
- Ntacyo nari mfite cyo gutakaza, kuko ntagabana cyane mu mwuga ukora, harimo muburyo bwa buri munsi, ntabwo byari bikabije. Ikibazo cyari kimeze gusa niba nshobora kubikora. Kandi mbere yo gusohoka kw '"ibice ..." Nakinnye muri firime "Acide" na "usebanya", aho mfite uruhare runini.
Ati: "Nabayeho mu rukundo. Kandi mu muryango wacu, twahoraga twubahwa, ndetse no ku mwana muto. Kubwibyo, nanjye ubwanjye twafashe ibisubizo by'ingenzi ku bana."
Ifoto: Kanda Service "Ikigo cya Gogol" / Alex YOCU
- uri umuntu ukomeye? No mugukora, no muburyo, no mubirori bitanga?
- Mu busore bwanjye, nashakaga kuba umukinnyi, ariko iki gihe cyagombaga kuba hagati ya mirongo. Navuye mu kigo, nakoraga gato muri theatre none ndumva ko igihe cyanjye cyo mu mwuga kitaragera. Byongeye kandi, ibintu byose byabaye hirya no hino, ntibyari bifite umusore, umuntu, ubuzima bwa kaburimbo, butunguranye buvanze rwose hamwe numwuga ukora. Nta murimo uhagije, kandi ushimishije - kandi uhagarikwa. Kubwibyo, natangiye guhangana nibyo nkora kugeza uyu munsi, - gukora ibintu no kubyara. Byatumye kandi bishoboka kubaho hamwe numuryango we, ariko kuvuga ko ntigeze ntekereza gukora kandi ntibyashobokaga. Ariko igihe muri 2014, Kirill Serebrennikov yampamagariye gukina Aduuyev-Old-Old-Old-Amateka asanzwe ", ndangije, mvugishije ukuri, mpagarika kubitekerezaho. Kandi kenshi, mugihe uhagaritse kurota kubintu runaka, gitunguranye Ba-Bah - na shitingi. Kuri njye rero byaratunguwe rwose nibyishimo. N'ubwoba, wenda, byari igihe nemera "inkuru isanzwe." Natinyaga ko ntazaba mu nshingano zanjye. Mu mizo ya mbere, nagerageje kwanga, ariko Cyril Senonovich yahindutse ubwenge, kandi twemeye ko tuzagerageza kubikora tutiyeganyenya.
- Nkumukoresha numuyobozi, wamenyekanye cyane muri uruziga rugufi. None, ibyifuzo byawe byashyizwe mu bikorwa, binyuzwe?
- Yego. Ntabwo rwose nababaye kandi ntabwo mbabaye bidasanzwe. (Aseka.) Ariko ikintu cyose gihujwe nuruhande rwibintu umwuga ukora, imbere yanjye ntikiragera. Njya mu buryo bucece mu mihanda. Ariko birashoboka ko byatanze bike birenze icyizere.
- Mugihe utarahinduye byimazeyo umukinnyi, ntujugunye ibindi bikoresho?
- Ibintu byose birashirwaho byoroshye. Kandi ibigikenewe, kugwa, ikintu gishya, gishimishije kiragaragara. Ubu mfite imishinga ibiri minini, umunsi mukuru wa firime - "inkombe yumucyo. Iburasirazuba "kuri Sakhalin no muri Kalingedrad" inkombe z'umucyo. Iburengerazuba ". Kandi muri rusange, mugihe hari amahirwe yo gukora ikintu kitari wenyine, kandi umuntu ahenze. Kubera ko mfite ibintu byinshi, ntabwo nemeranya nibintu byose mugukora, mugihe nshimira cyane amahirwe yo guhitamo.
Mu ruhare rwa psychologue murukurikirane "Igice cyisi"
Ifoto: Kanda Serivisi yumuyoboro wambere
- Wakinnye psychologue muri "VICLE". Urumva neza kandi wumve abantu?
- Ndatekereza ko ndabisobanukiwe gato. Ntabwo ndi kubashobora kuyobora abantu, ahubwo nize bihagije kugirango numve uko nabikemura. Muri rusange, nkunda kuvugana, mfite inshuti nyinshi, rimwe na rimwe ndanseka no kumarana na bo kuruta kubana n'umuryango wanjye. (Umwenyura.) Nkuko, igihe kimwe nyuma yingabo navuganye na psychologue imenyerewe. Sinigeze nshishikazwa cyane, ariko nateje amatsiko. Noneho igitabo cyiza "abantu bakina imikino, nimikino yakinishijwe abantu bakina," Nabisomye nshimishijwe. Ariko njye ubwanjye nanjye sinzigera njya mumitekerereze (nubwo ntagomba kuzimya ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose), sinzi ko nshobora kumbwira ko ntazi ibyanjye. Ariko byabaye, naje kumenya ko umuntu w'incuti zanjye - hamwe n'abatatwiteze kubo ntategereje, jya kubyakira, jya kubyakira, kandi birabafasha, byorokora. Biterwa cyane numuntu, birasa numuti umwe ... umuntu abyemera, kandi arakora, kandi umuntu azatongana ubuzima bwe bwose kuburyo aha ariho aha.
- Niba tuvuga kubyerekeye icyitegererezo cyubuzima, noneho dufite psychologuste nkabo - inshuti. Urasaba umuntu?
- Yego, kenshi. Mubibazo bimwe aho ndimo cyane, burigihe ndabaza. Kandi kunyemeza ko umutuku ari icyatsi, ntibishoboka. Ariko hariho abantu bafite igitekerezo cyizere rwose, cyangwa ahubwo, ndabishishikariye kandi numvise, ntangira gutekereza impamvu umwanya wumuntu ari utya. Kandi rimwe na rimwe mpindura igitekerezo cyanjye.
- Mu isosiyete ufite inshuti, roho yisosiyete cyangwa, ahubwo, ukunda gutekereza no kumva?
- biterwa na sosiyete. Muri bamwe, birashoboka ko nimwitayeho cyane, kandi mubuzima runaka bwabantu bashobora kuba ubugingo, nibintu byose, kandi ibi nibishimishije cyane.
- Kandi numero yabantu kuri wewe ni sosiyete nziza cyane?
- Ntacyo bitwaye na gato. Buri gihe mpamagaye abantu ijana kumunsi wamavuko. Haba hari imigenzo nkiyi, inshuti zizi ko hari umunsi umwe mu gihe cyizuba, iyo bahamagaye kandi barahamagara. Akenshi abantu batabonana umwaka umwe, kandi nibamara bavugana byinshi, nishimiye umunezero.
Muri firime "Ibyo abagabo bavuga"
Ifoto: Ikadiri kuva firime
- None, urakabije?
- Iki nikibazo kitoroshye. Birangora kumusubiza, kuko mubimenyetso byo hanze i, ahubwo, kugoreka, ariko sinshobora kubivuga byinshi. Hariho ibintu ntasangiye numuntu, atari ukubera ko mpisha cyangwa mpura nibibazo, ariko kubera gusa ko ntashaka. Ibi ntibisobanura ko uko byagenda kose sinzabivugaho. Ariko ugomba kubyemera, nahoze ari cranque. (Kumwenyura.)
- Kandi uhorana neza numugore wanjye? Bikwiye, mubitekerezo byawe, ube ubwoko runaka bwibitabo byirangamuntu mumibanire yabagabo nabagore?
- Nta turere mfite. Ikintu gusa iyo ndi mubikorwa byakazi murugo bigomba kuzana ikintu, ntabwo buri gihe cyiteguye kuvuga kuriyi ngingo kandi sinshobora gusangira ibyo nambajije. Kandi mumabanga asigaye kumuntu, abo ntuye, simfite.
- Mu bwana n'ubwangavu, watunzwe cyane n'ababyeyi?
- Muri rusange twagize amahirwe menshi nababyeyi, nubwo, nko mumiryango myinshi, twari dufite ibihe bitoroshye. Nagize sogokuru mwiza, na nyirakuru, na nyirarume, ndetse na Rujenera abantu bose bangose mu bwana. Nabayeho mu rukundo. Kandi mumuryango wacu twahoraga twubahwa, ndetse no kumwana muto. Kubwibyo, nanjye ubwanjye twafashe ibyemezo byinshi byingenzi kubana: icyo gukora cyangwa kudakora, gukora cyangwa kudakora amasomo. (Aseka.)
- Ntabwo wahatiwe gukora amasomo?
- Rimwe na rimwe, birumvikana ko yagurutse, ariko haracyariho igikoresho nk'icyo cyatuma njya mu Ishami ry'amateka niba ntabishaka. Bashobora kuvugana nanjye kuriyi ngingo, kugirango batange ikintu. Mubyukuri, nyuma yishuri kandi ntaho yagiye mu mpeshyi ebyiri. Gusa sinabitekerezaho na gato, yari umuntu udahari. Kubera iyo mpamvu, nagiye mu gisirikare.
Hamwe n'umugore we, umukinnyi wa mbere wa Victoria Tolsganova, hamwe imyaka umunani
Gennady Avramenko
- Ishuri ry'ubuzima mu Gisirikare ryarashize?
- Muburyo bwuzuye, nambaraga ifishi itoroshye, ariko yatangaga imyaka ibiri. Byari bigize mu karere ka Leningrad, gatanga ibikorwa by'inzego za gisirikare, kwipimisha, ubushakashatsi. Impuzandengo isanzwe y'Abasoviyeti. Ntabwo nzahamagara resitora, ariko ntibyari bitandukanye cyane mubuzima bwabantu mubird yigihugu cyacu, keretse niba ari mu mpeta ya boulevari.
- Ikibuga cyawe cyari he?
- Kugeza ku myaka itandatu nabaga mu gace k'umuhanda wa Butyrskaya, intangiriro y'umuhanda wa DITROVSKO, ariko igice kinini kandi cyiza cy'ubwana bwe kandi urubyiruko rwabaye mu karere kose "ku kibuga cy'indege. Muri bo harimo amakoperative y'ubutava n'ubuvanganzo, kandi nayanye igice cyabo, kandi na bamwe muri bo - hamwe na mama muri Yasenev, igihe twabonaga inzu. Ariko muri Hoshenov, nari muto, njya ku ishuri ndagaruka. Ndangije amashuri azwi kandi meza ya Leonid Millagrafi. Kandi na none mfite inshuti nyinshi kuva aho. Rimwe na rimwe, uhura numuntu, igice cya buri selile zarashize, ariko ishuri rya 45 ni ijambo ryibanga. Ubu mze umukobwa w'imfura. Birumvikana ko ibi bitakiri ishuri, ariko nyamara.
"Sogokuru ni umwanditsi uzwi cyane, Papa - umukoresha ukomeye, ariko wowe, uvuye mu ngabo, wahisemo kwinjiza abarimu bakora.
- Ariko mfite umukinnyi wa Mama mu burezi. Namaranye umwanya munini mu bwana n'urubyiruko hamwe n'inshuti ze, ni mu kinya, kuko ubu bimenyereye kuvuga, mu birori. Mama yarangije ishuri-studio mcat. Kubwibyo, kuvuga ko ntagiye kubahanzi arikintu cyose cyo gukora ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose, ariko sinarifuza kuba umukoresha kugirango abe isegonda. Kandi kugeza ubu mfite ikibazo cyo kwizirikana ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose, ndetse no gufotora nabi, muri ubu buryo, kamere aranshimisha. Nyirakuru Ikinamico n'amasomo y'akarere, ntabwo ndi uko, ariko ndibuka byinshi. Uburyohe kuri uru rubanza na We.
Umuhungu Ivan numukobwa mukuru kuva mubukwe bwa mbere bwa varvara
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye Alexey Agranovich
- Muri sosiyete ikora Mama yakusanyije abantu bafite amazina azwi?
- Mubisanzwe. Aba ni insanganyamatsiko ya nyina, Vsevolod Abdulov yari inshuti ye magara. Twari tumaze kuba ku muhanda wa Butyrskaya mu nzu y'abaturage hamwe na mama. Bimaze gukinginga byaje gukurura Alice mu kitekerezo cya Wonderland, kitaragurishwa ahantu hose, yacapwe gusa, aho yijwi na Vladimir Segonovich Vysotsky. Kandi ndacyabitseho umukono "wo mu njangwe ya Cheshire." Kugeza ubu hari umwarimu mwiza cyane, umukinnyi, Umukinnyi Gennady Yalovich, abantu baramuzi bazwi cyane muri Kebabs bava muri Filime "Amarira ya Moscou ntabwo yizera", aho akina inshuti ya Goosh, n'uruhare rw'ubuyobozi muri filime " Mirongo itatu na gatatu ". Lyubov Vasilyevna Strizhenova - umukunzi wanjye ako kanya. Sasha Strizhenov - inshuti yanjye y'ubuna. By the way, avuga ko ankura mu bitaro. Nibyo, noneho yari munsi gato ugereranije nigice, ariko amateka arasa nkiyi. (Aseka.)
- Wabaye umunyamuryango wuzuye? Ntabwo wohereje kuryama niba igihe cyagenze hejuru ya saa sita z'ijoro?
- Bibaye bitandukanye, ariko mama yakundaga gufata ibintu bimwe na bimwe, iminsi y'amavuko. Ngomba kuvuga ko sogokuru nabonye abantu batangaje. Kurugero, vadim NikoLeyevich korosylev, umukinyi wikinyingo, kwandika ibintu bya firime "Umwami impongo", "Aiboli-66" hamwe nitsinda ryikinamico. Umugabo wubwenge udasanzwe, agira neza cyane, ndamwibuka neza. Ku rundi ruhande, sogokuru yanditse ikinamico y'icyaha kinini cyangwa kiri hafi-cricial, kandi yari afite inshuti - iperereza Alexander Lvovich streater. Urashobora kwibuka abantu miliyoni, na Bulat Ocudzhawa, na Oleg NikiLavich Efremova ... Nagize amahirwe yo kuvuka mumuryango, byari inshuti nabantu benshi beza. Sekuru yakoraga muri stuodiyo izwi cyane ya Arbuzov, aho Andrei Goncharov, na Valereine, na Alexander Galich. Bari inshuti na Alexander Arkadyevich, ariko ava mu gihugu mfite imyaka ine. Ibice byinshi by'inyandiko ze, biracyagenda, bidukorerwa murugo. Oleg Dal yakinnye uruhare rwa mbere mu ishusho ya sekuru "umuntu ushidikanya."
- no kuri filime studio wowe injangwe mugihe cyo gufata amashusho?
- Nagiye kuri Mosfilm. Ariko ku iraswa ryageze ku rugero ruto, kuko cyari igihe naganiriye na data. Sekuru yakuye "ingabo y'umujyi" mu bwana bwanjye bwo kumenya, ariko muri Qazaqistan, ariko muri Qazaqistan, aho ntabonye, n'ishusho ya Sitati y'imipaka i Nizhny Novgorod. Ariko igice, ahora kurasa kwari iwacu, kuko sekuru yabyanditse ibintu, kandi gusoma kwabo kwama iyo mihango yo murugo.
- Wavuze ko waruhutse mu itumanaho na papa wawe. Ni ryari umubano wasubukuwe?
- imyaka cumi n'itanu, mu cyiciro cya cumi. Twatangiye kuvugana, kandi dufite umubano utangaje kugeza na nubu. Byahuriranye gusa no kurekura film "kwihana", ndetse na mbere yuko Paye ya Minisitiri w'intebe bose yafashe kopi y'amaduka ya "Mosfilm", kandi yeretswe mu ishuri ryacu nimugoroba. Ibihuha byerekeye kugenda mu gihugu hose. Hanyuma, igihe najyaga mu ngabo, ndamwegera iminsi ibiri i Nizhny Novgorod kuvuga, yakuyeho filime "nyina" hamwe na Gleb Anatovich. Hanyuma twarangije gukorera, yakuyeho, nagerageje kuyobora ikintu.
Nkumuturage wo mumijyi, Alexey Indangagaciro yo kuruhuka mugihe bishoboka kuva muri kamere
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye Alexey Agranovich
- Kuki utarageze muri VGIK, arayijugunya?
- Iyi ni ingingo yibiganiro bitandukanye, sinshaka kubiganiraho birambuye, abantu bamwe baracyariho. Ariko niba muri make, noneho hagaragaye amakimbirane runaka aho byasaga naho ari kumwe nanjye, hari impande ebyiri: amahugurwa n'ishami, kandi nari inzira ya kera. Nk'ubutegetsi, muri shobuja ba VGIK, hari amazina akomeye, ariko bageze ukwezi mbere y'ibizamini, ndetse n'abarimu bamwe, nkatwe, bahoraga. Kandi narwanye gahunda yo kuba byiza kuri bo. Ariko ibi byose byahindutse inkuru itoroshye hamwe na ba shebuja. Na nyuma yumwaka wa gatatu naragiye. Ntekereza ko Albert Filozova, ubwami bwo mu ijuru, kandi yishimiye ko yabonye "inkuru isanzwe" kandi yaranyuzwe. Ibyo ni ngombwa kuri njye.
- Ntabwo watekereje ko nta diploma utagira impungenge?
- ntabwo uhangayitse na gato. Muri kiriya gihe, ibi ntibyari biteye ubwoba. Diploma Diploma, ariko nyuma y'amezi atandatu nakoraga kuri Theatre ya Anton Theokhov i Leonid Trushkin muri Playon. Nari nicaye kuri premiere y'iyi mikino mucyumba cyo kwambarwa cya Gigarhahanyanyan, igihe abo twigana bari bakikururwa. Tuvugishije ukuri, sindasobanukirwa ibyo natsinzwe, usibye ko ntashobora kuba umukozi w'umuco kubera kubura impamyabumenyi.
- Watsinze ibibazo bimwe: imyaka, ubwenge?
- Nkumuntu wese usanzwe, birumvikana, yego. Bahujwe, nk'ubutegetsi, hamwe n'impinduka zimwe na zimwe n'ibinyabuzima n'impinduka mubuzima bwite.
- Wabikuye muri bo?
- Umuntu wese ninkuru ndende cyane. Ariko buri gihe ndagerageza gukora. Akazi kafasha. Mu bihe nk'ibi, ugomba gukora ibyo udashaka gukora. Muri rusange, ibintu byose byambayeho mubuzima ni, kandi hari imizigo mito nshobora gukoresha, gukora muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose.
- Nigute wabaye ingimbi n'abasore - mu rukundo cyangwa kumena gusa?
- Ntekereza ko gusubiramo no mu rukundo ari kimwe. Ishuri ryose kuva mwishuri rya kabiri nakundaga umukobwa umwe, ariko ntitwigeze tugira umubano. Twabaye inshuti zimaze nyuma. Hanyuma, nkumusore benshi, inkuru zitandukanye zari zuzuye.
- Ufite abana babiri: umukobwa ukomoka mubukwe bwa mbere n'umuhungu kuva ku wa kabiri, ubu ni afite imyaka irindwi. Ku nshuro ya mbere, wumvise byimazeyo igihe cya se?
- Mu rubanza rwanjye rwihariye, ibindi bice byombi biragoye. Ibyiyumvo bya Data ... Nkunda abana banjye cyane. Kandi banyitayeho mubihe byose byubuzima.
- Niki ukunda gukora kuri Vanya?
- Mu mezi atandatu ashize, umuhungu afite ishyaka ryumupira wamaguru, akora igice, bityo rero ibiganiro byose. Turareba kandi amashusho, jya muri firime, soma ikintu, muganire. Na we, kandi, umuntu wigenga, ahitamo icyo ashaka gukora ibitari byo. Turagerageza kutamubangamira, ariko natwe ntabwo dutanga vuba.
- Kandi hamwe numukobwa wanjye, ni kangahe ushyikirana?
- Kubwamahirwe, gake cyane kuruta. Guteka umukobwa ufite impano. Nta gushidikanya ko afite ubushobozi bw'ururimi rw'ubuhanzi, yishora muri studio nziza Misha Lobazov, yari amaze kugira imurikagurisha ryinshi. Bakora ibishusho, bikurura ikintu no gukata, kubaka imyanya n'imishinga mubibanza. Afite kandi nyina - kimwe mu bashushanya neza mu gihugu. Ariko icyarimwe, umukobwa we ampa gusobanukirwa ko atagiye gukora na gato, inzozi z'ikigo cy'ikinamico.
- Ufite umubano numuhungu numukobwa ukundi?
- ntabwo. Kuri njye, muri rusange, itandukaniro riri hagati yumugabo numugore, nubwo ndumva ko rwose ribaho mubintu bimwe, ntabwo ari amahame. Ni ngombwa kuri njye ko ari umuntu.
- Niba turimo tuvuga umugore, gukuraho "chimie" nkibigize urukundo, ni izihe mico utanga ubundi kuruta isi yose?
Ati: "Niba ukuyeho ibintu byose wita" chimie ", imiterere bisobanura imiterere, n'ibyo igaragazwa, burigihe gusobanukirwa bidasobanutse.
Muri Kirill Kirill Serebrennikov "Amateka asanzwe" Agranovich yakinnye Adoya-Mukuru
Ifoto: Kanda Serivisi "GOGOL CENT" / Ira Polar
- Umugore wawe Victoria TolSoganova numukinnyi wambere wicyiciro cya mbere, umuntu, ariko afite imico ikomeye kandi idahwitse, irashobora gutera ingorane mu itumanaho ...
- Ukunda umujyi ubamo? Duhereye ku mihindagurikire y'ibihe, ameze nkaba. Ntabwo abisobanura cyangwa neza, cyangwa ikiruta rero, imiterere nibyo nkiri mubihe byanjye birasanzwe. Nibintu bya kamere.
- Nibyo, protuberans irashobora rimwe na rimwe kuguruka muri wewe, ariko urumva ushize amanga?
- Sinzi niba hari imiryango cyangwa umubano bamwe mubantu bafite uburemere. Kandi birashimishije cyane, byimbitse, umuntu aranyerera, biratoroshye biratoroshye kandi bigoye cyane icyitwa imiterere.
- Ariko ushobora kuvuga imico itatu ukunda muri vike cyane cyane?
- Umurava, birashoboka ko ubushishozi nimpano. Kutavuga ubwiza.
- Waba uzi gukora ikintu n'amaboko yawe?
- Kubwamahirwe oya. Ntabwo ari ingeso zanjye.
- Kandi ni iki kindi udahamagara ufite imico yawe?
- Kurugero, ndi umunebwe bihagije kandi sinshaka gukora ibyo ntashishikajwe, ntabwo nkunda kandi ntahita ukora. Ntabwo nkomoka kuri abo bantu bazagera kubintu icyarimwe.
- uba i Moscou. Urashaka kuba igihugu utuyemo?
- Nagize igihe igihe nabaga hanze yumujyi imyaka itari mike. Nkunda kamere n'aho hantu hafi ya Moscou, ariko utuye mu mujyi, kandi niba buri wese afite umwanya w'ubusa, tujya ahantu hamwe. Birashoboka, mubusaza, ndashaka gutura mu mujyi, ariko kugeza ubu bisa nkaho umusaza mwiza ari ahantu muri Jeworujiya. Abana Ntuzakenera, kandi nkunda Jeworujiya cyane.
- Urashaka gusubira mu gice runaka cyubuzima bwawe cyangwa igihe?
- rwose ndashaka gusubira muri ubwo buzima nari maze kubaho. Ubu ndakora cyane no gushyiraho ibintu bitagerwaho. Kandi mugihe kimwe no no kubabarira cyane nkora ibyo ntabayeho igihe kirekire. Yakinguye ibirori, kandi byose, ntabwo ari ngombwa kubantu nyuma yisaha. Ku rundi ruhande, ubu numvise ibintu bitangaje birashoboka ko aricyo kintu cyinyangamugayo umuntu ashobora gukora kuri stage, kuko rwose kibaho rimwe. Of bihe ibi na bihe na ho ni ubuzima, kandi niba ari gutanga wowe buri gihe uburyo bwo gukora ibyo wifuza, gushimira no ntimukore n'uruza ityaye.