- Boris Vladimirovich, ufite imyaka 70 ni manda yubuzima nubunararibonye. Kuri njye mbona ko ugomba kwegeranya ubu buvumo nk'iki gihe ko ntakintu gishobora kugukura mu gipimo.
- Nibyo rwose. (Himura.) Muri iki gihe wamaze kuba mu mwuga, nabonye ibirenge mu buzima. Kandi nubwo hari byinshi bimaze kugusobanurwa kuri wewe, ntuzumva iki gihe, uracyafite inyota yo gukora, hariho intego. Noneho, nanjye, na muri kamere, ikomeye bihagije. Birumvikana ko bigoye ko nkurambura icyerekezo kimwe cyangwa ikindi.
- Ibyo utubaha gukora gusa, ahubwo binatirwa, hejuru, birashoboka nabyo bitanga inkunga. N'ubundi kandi, benshi muri bagenzi bawe muri iki gihe ntibagifite impungenge ku bukorikori.
- Abanyeshuri twigana bose bamaze kuba muri Pansiyo. Kandi ndacyakora kandi, nkuko mbisobanukiwe, nzakora igihe kirekire. Ndacyumva imbaraga, icyifuzo, kandi ndacyashaka kugira icyo nkora mu mwuga.
"Mu busore bwe, igihe watangiraga gukora muri firime, basesenguwe igihe cyose: Iyi firime izanshimisha, ubu icyubahiro kizaza. Noneho, igihe no kuba icyamamare kandi byamamare byabonetse - niki gifasha kugenda?
- Urabizi guhanga - ikintu ntigishobora rwose. Ninkaho urukundo - isoko, kuva batasinze. Kubwibyo, mugihe uhabwa akazi, ugomba gukora. Ikintu cyonyine uyu mwaka nzayemerera kuruhuka. Ntabwo nabaye mubiruhuko igihe kirekire none ndumva icyo ari ngombwa. Ariko iyo bibaye ingorabahizi cyane, bishyushye kandi byuzuye muri pavilions, nimugoroba uhagarare gusa ku birenge, mperuka mvuze nti: Mbora ni bangahe mu mwuga wanjye wifuza kuba mu mwanya wanjye. Itera. Nahoraga nkora byinshi. Naragenze cyane igihe ntari mfite Filime, nakoze ubumwe bwose bw'Abasoviyeti n'igitaramo inshuro nyinshi, narabikunze. Iyo wowe wenyine hamwe na salle - ifasha kwigaragaza mu mwuga. Kandi niba ibi atari - ujya muri tereviziyo, kugirango ukurikize. Ndacyakomeza amajwi na firime zanjye zanyuma zagize ijwi ryiza - namakarito, na firime "Umwami avuga" n '"icyifuzo cyiza", aho ngisaye Jeffrey Rasha. Ibi ntibisobanura ko ndi hose. Nkora guhitamo. Ariko nizera ko bishimishije cyane mugihe wowe kandi kuruhande rumwe rushobora guhindukira umwuga, naho kurundi, hamwe na gatatu. Mugihe ndibaza, nzabikora.
Mbere yo gufata amashusho muri "Voronin", Boris Klyuev ntabwo yigeze yambara imyambarire na paste, ariko ishusho nshya yaratsinze cyane. .
- N'uruhare rwa Nikolai Petrovich Voronich mukwihishurira mu buryo bushya? N'ubundi kandi, byari ishusho itandukanye rwose, bitandukanye nibyo wahoze mukinisha.
- neza. Byongeye kandi, nzakubwira ko ntanyemereye igihe kirekire. Umwe mu bayobozi b'umuyoboro yagize ati: "Wowe - Klyuv uri iki - Klyuv? Nibyo, ni umuhanzi ukomeye! Mumujyane kuri sikom? .. "Kandi reba uko byagenze ... Ntabwo nigeze mbikora mbere, ntabwo yigeze akomeza imyitozo, ntabwo yigeze yinjira mumyambaro, muri T-shati, kandi hano aya mahirwe arampaye. Byongeye kandi, habaye ingorane uko nasaga igihe bashakaga imyenda. Kuberako umuzingo uwo ari we wese - kandi ako kanya mfite ubwenge,'risto, kandi byari ngombwa kubikuraho. Navuga iki - Nakiriye Thafi kubera iki gikorwa, ababumva bakunda imico yanjye ntibisanzwe. Abantu barakwira bati: "Urakoze kurema kwawe," cyangwa "urasa cyane na Data," cyangwa "Urasa na sogokuru." Nibyiza cyane. Ibi bivuze ko nta mbaraga nshora akazi kanjye mugutekereza kururu nzego, bivuze ko arizo bateze amatwi roho. Nishimiye cyane ko mumyaka 65 nabonye akazi gashimishije.
- Uracyafite iyi mico no mukintu runaka cyahindutse?
- Birumvikana, niba uvuga "igikona" cyangwa "ubwoko bwa Misiri" mu mazi imyaka itanu! (Aseka.) Ibi ntibisobanura ko nkoresha aya magambo murugo, kuko ndi undi muntu rwose. Ariko rimwe na rimwe rimwe na rimwe bitangiye kunywa itabi, ari imbere yanjye, muri rusange, ntibyabonetse.
- Ariko iyi bastocracy, yaturutse mu ntangiriro, ndagushimiye wowe hamwe nintwari zabigize. Ni iki cyamufashije aho imizi ye?
- Ntekereza ko mbere ya byose, ni ingirabuzima fatizo, byose muri kamere. Birumvikana ko abakurambere bacu bamyereka isura, imico, imyifatire yanjye. Ariko, ngomba kwivuza, ko nakoze byinshi kuruhande rwanjye. Nagiye cyane kubarokotse inzu nto, kuri mikhail ivanovich carev, nuburyo yambara ikirego, icyo cyo kwitwara muburyo runaka. Nahise numva ko nagaragaye ko ntagomba gukina abayobozi b'umurima rusange. Ibyo ari byo byose, iyo nshyize umwambaro, abantu bose bumva ko uyu ari umupolisi, kandi niba nambara utuntu na wambaye utuntu, abantu bose bumva ko ndi Umwami cyangwa Icyongereza Aristocrat.
- na sogokuru, FYIDOR VYILYEEVIH Klyuev, ni ubuhe bwoko?
- Kubwamahirwe, igihe nuko ntazi amateka ya ba sogokuruza. Papa yapfuye mfite imyaka 4, bityo iyi sano yarahagaritswe. Nzi ko sogokuru yabaga ahantu hafi ya Dmitrov, mu nkengero zaho hari ikindi kintu cy'ingenzi - ntakindi. Abakurambere banje ni bande, uva he? Klyuev yari mu majyaruguru, ladoga, no kurundi ruhande, urufunguzo rwinshi no muri Ukraine. Ndibuka abakuru babiri gusa mumurongo wa nyina numurongo wa papa. Kandi abagabo mumuryango wacu bagiye vuba cyane.
- Wagize ibintu bitazibagirana kuba mumuryango wawe. Isaha, kurugero, kuri sogokuru.
- Nibyo rwose. Kandi uzi icyambere kishimishije? Sogokuru yabaga muri Yuzhzhskaya, ubu yitwa cyane Palayshevy. Kandi igihe bene wabo bo muri ubwo nzu bakirukanwe, byari ngombwa gufata bimwe mu bintu bimwe na bimwe. Naje, mu buryo butunguranye mbona urukuta nibutse kuva mu bwana - nyogokuru noneho avuga ko sekuru yaguze. Nabarebye ndabyumva: "Kandi ndabakunda. Nari kugura. " Kandi muri ako kanya, nasaga nkaho hari umugozi wo muri sogokuru. Nabajyanye, kuvugurura, gusana, kandi baracyakora. Ubwa mbere, sinashoboraga kumenyera urugamba rwabo, ariko igihe naje gufata isahamwe mu gusanwa, sinashakaga kubaha igihe kirekire, mvuga nti: "Uzi uburyo impeta ya Raspberry, ni kumurikirwa! " N'ibindi byose, ibikoresho byo mu giti nyabyo ni, Kubwamahirwe, yatakaye. Iyo umubano ufitanye isano wihutira, byinshi biratakara. Ariko byabaye.
Boris ntiyigeze atongana igihe kinini ku ruhare rwa Nikolai Petrovich Voronich. Umwe mu bayobozi b'umuyoboro yagize ati: "Wowe - Klyuv uri iki - Klyuv? Nibyo, ni umuhanzi ukomeye! Mumujyane kuri sikom? .. "
- Ufite ishyaka rimwe ryiswera - uraneshe amaroza. Kuri njye mbona ibyo aribyo byose, nabyo, aho kuva muri ibyo bihe, mugihe bafite isambu nini ufite ubusitani bwijimye ...
- Nagize ikibazo cyiza. Ndi mu busitani bwanjye kumunsi w'amavuko. Amaroza ahumura uruziga, hamwe nanjye hari imbwa ebyiri - turuhuka. Mu buryo butunguranye, harahamagarira terefone kuva kuri Londres no kuri Radio "umudendezo" gushimira abaturage ba Seva Novgorod. Hari ikintu kivuga kuri Sherlock Holmes na Majorft Holmes, hanyuma ubaze ikibazo: "Imizi yawe ni iki?" Tekereza, ndi mu nkengero, akazu, Zesengurod, ndavuga nti: "Seva, ntuzemera. Ndi hafi yanjye uburiganya bw'imyero y'ubwoko bwose, byatunganijwe nk'icyatsi i Londres, ariko ntacyo nzi ku mizi yanjye! " Nagerageje inshuro nyinshi kugirango nige pedigree yanjye, natanze amafaranga, ariko nyuma ya byose, igihe cyose cyari ndiganya - ntacyo babonye. Ariko iyi hamagara i Londres - Nari mwiza cyane.
- Kandi ntacyo ufite mu mashusho ya Kinoheev yawe? Birashoboka ko ukomeza ibintu bitazibagirana, birambuye?
- Oya, ndabitswe gusa mu mutwe. Mu mutwe wanjye munini uri ibintu byinshi. Nyuma ya byose, iyo ukorera ikintu runaka, urimo gushaka no kubona ibisobanuro byinshi bigufasha mubikorwa byawe. Urugero, igihe naburanishijwe ku ruhare rwa Kolchak, natangiye gusoma amabaruwa ye menshi, kandi muri rumwe mu nsanganyamatsiko nasanze ko yanyweye, kuko umugore yamuzanye muri gereza y'itabi. Kandi nazanye na firime muri firime, aho ndya mu buriri nkana n'itabi, hamwe n'itabi. Umutwe wabahanzi utondekanye cyane kuburyo rimwe na rimwe ujya ahantu runaka kandi mu buryo butunguranye ukanze: "Kuki utabikoze hanyuma muri uru rugero? Kuki ubu uza mu mutwe? " Ni muri urwo rwego, nk'umuhanzi wa Teatical, ndi mu mwanya wunguka cyane: kandi natwe, natwe dukina ibitaramo rimwe na rimwe, dukora ku nshingano zose, dukora amakuru mashya kandi nshya.
- Kandi nikihe kintu nyamukuru gishingiye ku byamubayeho cyane, wiga abanyeshuri bawe mwishuri rya Schepkinskaya?
- Icy'ingenzi nuko njya nabigisha ko badakeneye umuntu. Ko ntamuntu numwe uzatanga ikintu cyose kuri socery hamwe nimodoka yubururu. Mubuzima, muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose ukeneye kurwana. Ufite ubushobozi - ugomba kubarema bishoboka. Umwuga ugizwe nibi: Ibibi byo kwihisha, icyubahiro - kwerekana. Ntushobora kwemezwa kubera uruhare runaka, ariko ntuzigere ukubwira ko uri umuhanzi mubi. Ntabwo bikenewe kugukunda, ni ngombwa ko wubahirizwa. Kandi kubaha bigomba kugerwaho. Ugomba kwishimira. Ubwa mbere, ikintu kidahari - ntabwo kiteye ubwoba. Urashobora gutsinda intangiriro, ariko uze kumurongo wanyuma, urashobora gutsindira hagati hanyuma ukaza nyuma. Kubwibyo, ikintu cyingenzi nukuza kurangiza. Umubare uhora ujya mubuziranenge. Kandi haracyariho gukurikizwa mu buryo bwa kera: "20 Imyaka 20 ukorera mwizina, noneho izina riragukorera."
Hamwe n'umugore we Victoria, kera - umukinnyi wabigize umwuga. Ifoto: Sergey IVANOV.
- Boris Vladimirovich, kandi ni iki, ndavuga nta gushimisha, kugira uruhare mu mateka ya sinema y'igihugu? N'ubundi kandi, warokotse ibyiciro bye, utangira gukora mu 1963 mu "ntambara n'isi", none ndagera kuri "Voronin"?
Ati: "Yego, natwaye bwa mbere umupaka" Mosfilm "kuba umunyeshuri ufite imyaka 18. Hari muri Mutarama 1963, hari filime nk'iyi "bagendaga iburasirazuba", bakuyeho Igitaliyani de Santis. Tanya Samolova yagize uruhare runini, kandi - Valera Somov, nshuti yanjye nini cyane, umwe mu bahanzi be beza, nabonye mu buzima bwanjye, yari Alain Delon.
- Nigute wazigamye ibihe byisi, ukesheje ibyo bataretse imyaka 65 kugirango bakine muri Sitkom, byerekana ko nibi bishobora gukorwa neza?
- Akazi gagira ingaruka kumuntu. Niba ukora mu ngurube igihe cyose, uzi iki kintu neza. Iyo ukura roza ubuzima bwawe bwose, nawe uri umutware kuri ubu buhanga. Ariko hariho itandukaniro rinini hagati yingurube na roza. Urabona, ndi umuhanzi wo mu kibaya, nahoraga mfite ikinamico. Cinema, abasore-filime bari mumwanya ubabaye cyane, kuko cinema izarangira rwose, ikintu cyose cyiza cyari. Nahoraga numva ko niba uri umuhanzi, ugomba kumenyekana, gukundwa. Nubwo bidakora, ugomba kubihatira, kuko bisaba umwuga cyane. Ariko ntakibazo ushobora kubishingikirizaho. Niba utangiye kwishingikirizaho, uzatangira kugenda no gusaba inshingano, ntushobora kugera kubintu. Nabonye igihe filime ya kera yakomanze yakomanze isaba iti: "Ntukeneye abahanzi beza?" Bati: "Oya, murakoze." Natahuye ko byari agasuzuguro, ariko kamere nkiyi: Urashaka cyangwa utabikora - watoranijwe. Kubwibyo, ugomba gukora byose kugirango wubahwa. Niba warabonye igice gito, ugomba gutekereza byose, ntamuntu numwe wizeye kandi ukine kugirango byiza bishoboka. Nibikorwa byubuzima bugoye cyane, niko bigomba kuba filozofiya. Muri rusange, iyi myifatire yarohamye muri njye n'umusumari ukiri muto, wa mbere yankoze ku buzima bwanjye, kandi byagenze.
- Kandi kuba warahaye ubuzima bwanjye bwose kubaja, byari guhitamo ubwenge - Ikinamico hamwe na reactoire ya kera? Cyangwa cyane?
- Ntekereza ko iherezo ryateganijwe cyane. Ibinyuranye, nashakaga rwose kwinjira mu ikinamico ya Mossoveta. Hariho agapira ka Zavadsky, ikibazo cyiza cyane, Sphektkli, kandi nashakaga kujyayo. Ariko ndibuka neza cyane igihe umuntu wo mu za kera yarambwiye ati: "Uratumiwe muri the materi nto, uratekereza? Ako kanya! Iyi niyo theatle impeali, ikintu cyiza ni. Ndagenda. Nanjye ndabagira inama na kimwe. Iyo nza kugira papa, yarashobora kumbwira ikintu. Kandi rero - byari ngombwa kuzuza uruhanga na cone kubunararibonye bwabo. Kandi ndashimira Uwiteka Imana kubwibyaje kuri theatre nto, kuko koko yaje kuba urugo rwanjye. Igihe nagize amahirwe yo kujya mubuhanzi bwubuhanzi, aho Efremov yarantumiye, naranze kandi ni ukuri.
- Usibye akazi, ni iki kindi ubona imbaraga? Inkomoko y'ingufu kuri wewe?
- Muri siporo. Ndashaka gukina umupira wamaguru nonaha, muri tennis yanjye, ikintu cyose cyanjye cyiza. Ariko sinshobora, kuva nkora kugeza nimugoroba. Hano ariko, uyumunsi narimo kurasa kuva saa 12, kandi nemereye guhunga mugitondo, ndanezeza cyane.
Mu myaka myinshi, umukinnyi akunda gukura roza. Ku kazu, afite icyegeranyo kinini cy'ubwoko bwazanywe ahantu hose. Ifoto: Sergey IVANOV.
- Ibikorwa bya siporo ni gahunda yawe bwite, cyangwa uwo mwashakanye aragutera imbaraga, umukinnyi wumwuga?
- Oya, oya, nanjye ubwanjye. Porofeseri hafi ya bose abakinnyi banga siporo. (Aseka.) Nahoraga ndi inshuti cyane na siporo, kandi iyo mfite amahirwe, ntangira kwiruka, kurambura, ndazunguruka. Nakinnye imyaka myinshi kubera ikipe yigihugu yabahanzi ba Moscou, kuko ikipe yigihugu ya theteri nto, yari umukapiteni muremure. Ndi umuntu ukina urusimbi, nkunda amarushanwa. Nibyo, byose bimaze kumeneka, kubwibyo byose bitangiye kubabaza, uratekereza: Kuki uyu mukino wari ukenewe? (Aseka.)
- Ni iki kindi kivuga ku miterere yawe y'abagabo, usibye AZART? Ukunda imodoka? ..
- Yego, nkunda imodoka cyane. Naguze imodoka yambere nyuma y "musketeers". Yafashe kimwe cya kabiri, ariko yaguzwe, ku buryo nashakaga kumva ko ntwaye. Numvaga imodoka yari ikenewe ku mugabo: arakusanya, yibanze. Nkunda imodoka nziza, zihenze. Ariko gutwara - oya, nditoza umuntu.
- Boris Vladimirovich, niba ugarutse kumyaka - wunvise iki kuri wewe imyaka 70? Ni ibihe bintu byagaragaye mu miterere, bitabaye ibyo utabyabaye?
- Nabonye ko ndi umuntu wiyubashye, kandi abantu benshi cyane hamwe nanjye byoroshye. Ntabwo nigera uzamuka mubucuti bwa gicuti, witonde kandi nizera ubwumvikane bwabantu. Kubera ko ndi kanseri kuri Zodiac, nkunda rero kwicara gusa no gusoma. Kuri njye ni umugani gusa. Nubwo nageraga mu nshuti, ndagukuramo ubwoko bunini bw'igitabo gito ndabisukamo. Ibi byose birabizi, kandi ntamuntu numwe unkoraho. Nabonye ko utigeze ukeneye guhunika, ntukeneye kubeshya. Ijambo ryiza, ariko ntukunde, kuko rwose uzatera urujijo, kandi ibinyoma bizagaragara neza. Nabonye ko ndi umuntu wizewe iyo abantu banshaka ubufasha, burigihe ngerageza gufasha. Nabonye ko ndi umuntu ukomeye. Byongeye kandi, iyo numva mbi, ndarakaye cyane, bityo ntibizimya imisozi yanjye. Nkunda cyane Hamingway afite imvugo nziza: Urashobora kwica umuntu, ariko ntushobora gutsinda. Ndi umuyoboke yubu buryo. Ndacyafite urukundo rwurukundo mu bugingo bwanjye, ahubwo ndabihisha rwose. Estet - Nkunda ibintu byose byiza. Igihe kimwe nakusanyije ibishushanyo, ibintu bya kera, narabikunze rwose. Nkunda kwambara neza.
- Kandi hari ikintu kidasanzwe wifuza kubona isabukuru? Cyangwa byose?
- Nibyiza, ikintu gishobora kuba umwimerere. (Aseka.) Ariko, mubyukuri, namaze kwambaza umunezero wanjye wose. Ibyo ntari mfite mu busore bwanjye, ariko nashakaga rwose kugira, nsanzwe mfite. Kubwibyo, duteranya gusa kubana ninshuti zanjye magara, abo mwigana, abavandimwe, bicare, reka tunywe, tunywe, tuganire kandi dukwirakwizwe.