Inkingi yuzuye imitekerereze yumugabo, Pavel Yikuramo ubuzima bwe bwose burahuze cyane: Icyambere Igihugu cyacyo, hanyuma ugahindura uruhare rwumuntu mwiza. Birakwiye ko tumenya ko yaba yaratsinze. Ingorane zibaho gusa numudamu wumutima. Ariko biragaragara ko arigihe gito, kuko kwihangana no kujijuka k'uyu mukinnyi, none aba producer kandi umuyobozi azanga rwose. Kubindi byose nibindi bintu byinshi - mubakiganiro hamwe nikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- Paul, urasa na realist, ariko nigute umuntu uhanga agenga ubwoko bwa mysticism, wemera ibimenyetso byigihe?
- bafite rwose. Ikindi kintu, turashobora kubamenya neza. Bibaho ko kubintu runaka byimbere ubona igisubizo kigaragara, kifatika. Kurugero, nabaye umuganga w'inyenyeri imyaka myinshi, kandi buri gihe nabayeho. Nkunda uyu mutwe, ufite ubwenge, ubwoko bwiza. Noneho mfite ibara ryumugabo neo shokora, inshuti yanjye magara. Afite imyaka cumi n'umunani, kandi agenda afashijwe n'inziga zerekana inyuma ya kimwe cya kabiri cy'umubiri. Mubisanzwe, umusaza yumva ari bibi, kandi vuba aha ntari narigeze mpamagara abaveterians kugirango bamugire inshinge ya nyuma. Yampaganye ifoto n'imodoka, yari itwaye imbere yanjye mu nzira. Hariho imbwa nanditse: "Ntabwo dutera ikibi!" Dore uburyo bwo kubisobanura ukundi, nkibimenyetso kugirango ntakora igikorwa, icyo gihe sinshobora kubabarira ?! Noneho neo irasanzwe ari nziza cyane, kandi nizeye ko igihe runaka atazansiga.
Ati: "Nabaye umugoronga imyaka myinshi, kandi buri gihe nabaye muri Dachshund"
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Ariko ibi nibyo bireba abavandimwe bacu bato. Kandi ahanini ibimenyetso bimwe na bimwe twakiriye abantu ba hafi, kandi rimwe na rimwe, bishyigikiwe cyane nicyifuzo cyacu cyifuzo, ni akaga gakomeye. . Nagiye muri ubwo busabane n'umutwe wanjye, nashakaga ko umwana, asaba kurongora, ariko amaherezo yaje kwanga. Noneho, urabizi, byari bigoye cyane kwiyungurutsa, gukira nyuma yikosa rikomeye. Nibyo Uwiteka nashakaga kubivuga ?! (Kumwenyura.) Ntabwo nkeneye ubunararibonye bubi na gato. Rimwe na rimwe birasa nkaho hari amasomo asanzwe ahagije ... Mugihe rero urukundo kuri njye ari bastard! (Amwenyura.) Nubwo mubyukuri ari ibyiyumvo byiza, umunezero! Ariko biragaragara iyo biduhaye iterambere, ntabwo arimbura. Nibyiza mugihe couple idashoboka. Nubwo bimeze bityo, urukundo ni ikiganiro kitagira iherezo kuri njye. Nubwo abantu bacecetse hafi. Mubumwe bwunze ubumwe, urudodo rutagaragara ruhora ruramburwa hagati yumugabo numugore. Amahano, mugihe nta jambo rishimishije! Noneho kwifuza kuza, bahita bashaka guhunga.
- gutemba kuri uku gust?
"Iyo mbonye ko nta kintu cyiza kizageraho, ndagenda." Muri rusange, ni ukuri, cyane cyane niba nta mwana uhari. Niba aribyo, mubisanzwe, hariho impamvu zindi zindi zitaratera amazimwe ... Akenshi, ababyeyi bagumana ubukwe bwo gutuza kw'urubyaro, rukura, rusiga inshuti y'abandi bantu babiri Hano ... ibi kandi ntabwo ari amahitamo.
- Uratekereza ko uri umuryango? Ntabwo wigeze ushyingirwa kumugaragaro ...
- Yego, ariko icyarimwe wakomeje umubano muremure. Ndi hafi yumuryango, ariko numugore wanjye.
- Ufite umuhungu wimyaka 26 Pavel wa filime ya Cartachina Gaidar. Yakomeje ingoma?
Ati: "Natekerezaga kandi ko Pawulo azahitamo umwuga w'umukinnyi, ariko kubwibyo yabaye umuyobozi. Nukuri, mubucuruzi bwa firime. Afite igikundiro, azi kuvugana nabantu, kandi akunda ibyo akora. Nubwo ntazi neza ko muri kariya gace umuhungu yisanze kugeza imperuka. Mw'isi ya none, hariho ibitekerezo byinshi imbere yurubyiruko kuburyo batazimiye gato mubutunzi bwabo.
"Iyo mbonye ko nta kintu cyiza kizageraho, kiragenda"
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- Mugihe ubaye i Warsaw, ariko wavutse akurira muri Krakow ...
- Yego, ubwana bwanjye n'urubyiruko byanyuze aho. Uyu ni umujyi mwiza cyane, ufite ikirere. Nari umuseya, nari urunda ikiyiliga, ariko icyarimwe yasengaga ikinamico, kandi birashobora kuvugwa ko Krakow yafatwaga ku ishuri rikomeye rya Theatre. Muri iyo myaka, Polonye yari hafi ko ari Leta Zunze Ubumwe z'Abasoviyeti, abantu bose bagize ubwoba n'ibigega by'Uburusiya, abantu ntibizeraga ko Abakomunisiti ... Twemeje dushishikaye kuzihinduka hamwe n'Abakomunisiti, twe yagize ibiganiro bivuye ku mutima n'abapadiri bitangaje mu itorero nyamukuru bwo mu mujyi, batajyanye n'imyanya ya politiki kandi badusobanurira ibyerekeye Iteka. Ariko rero ibintu byose byoroshye kuruta ubu: byaba byera cyangwa umukara, nta gice cya kabiri. Abasore hamwe nabasore birashoboka ko aribwo igisekuru cyambere, gifite inyota nyinshi kandi ikakira umudendezo wingendo z'abasosiyalisiti, ubukene, kubaho ku makarita ... Polonye yabonye Leta itandukanye itera imbere. Kubwibyo, nakwegereye ibintu bimwe na bimwe bitera imbere, kubijyanye nabyo, ariko ntabwo byemewe muricyo gihe ibitabo. Nabisomye i Hennik Senkevich, Hesse, Kunte, Dosquez, Herishna, ntabwo yashidikanyaga ko nzagumana mu buryo butandukanye - hanze ya sisitemu, hamwe no gucana, hamwe nibishoboka byo kumurika Ibihugu bitandukanye, n'ubwisanzure bwo gutanga ibitekerezo ku ngingo iyo ari yo yose. Ndashimira ubwigenge no kubara gusa uko data yanyigishije.
- We, by the way, ni umucuranzi?
- ingoma. Na Mama ni umuforomo.
- Nzi ko ukunda jazz, kandi hashize imyaka mike, bandika alubumu, bakora nk'umuririmbyi: Nakoze indirimbo z'abasizi ba kera, nka Shakespeare ... Kuki inzira ya muzika yakomeje?
- Nabonye ko atari uwanjye. Ntabwo ndi umuririmbyi. Ariko yazimye ahandi. Noneho Nejejwe no kwandika ibice bimwe byabaturage mumiyoboro rusange. Ahari mugihe kizaza bizimya igitabo. Nizera ko kwandika, gusangira ububabare bwanjye muri rusange ni ingirakamaro kuri buri wese.
- Ukurikije ibikorwa byabyo, ugomba kwitegereza abantu, reba ibintu byose, nibyo?
- Ushishikajwe n'imyanzuro yanjye? Egoism yabantu niyo ndwara ikunze kugaragara kubigezweho. Iyo mpujwe nurubuga hamwe numuyobozi wubutatu utumva umuntu, usibye we, ndifungiye iyi nkuru. Yoo, abantu benshi duhura munzira yacu batandukanijwe nibisobanuro bidasanzwe. Birumvikana ko atari byose. Ntabwo mfise muri rusange. Kandi mu kazi ke, nk'umukinnyi n'umukoresha, na we ushaka gushaka, kumenya umuntu udafite impano gusa, ariko kandi urwego runaka rw'iterambere ntiruhungabanya kandi n'ibibazo byayo gusa n'ibibazo byayo. Iyo ninjiye mukipe nkumukinnyi cyangwa nkumuco nihitamo nk'itsinda, ndagerageza kuba mu bitekerezo, mbona mu bitekerezo, ubwenge, kumurika ku mibereho yawe ku isi ari ngombwa. Byaragaragaye ko muri iki gihe filime gusa ifite igisubizo mumitima mubari aho, mugihe yaremewe nabafite ibitekerezo bitagira imipaka nubwisanzure bwibyiyumvo. Kubwamahirwe, igihe cyongeye kugaruka mugihe abantu batangiye gutinya kuvuga hanze. Nizeraga ko byari bimaze kugendera burundu mu bihe byashize, ariko oya, iyi niyo mpamvu. Nubwo ibintu byose bidatera ubwoba, kandi urugomero nyamukuru rwacitse. Ntakintu, mubyukuri, ntirubangamira gutungana no kubaka isi nziza, iringaniye. Ntabwo nshobora kwemera ko buriwese afite umwanya wurukundo mumutima, kandi mubyukuri ntabwo dushobora kubibona. Niba abanyapolitike batanze amakimbirane, abantu bava mubuhanzi bagomba kubimenya no mubucuruzi bwabo kugirango bahuze. Byiza, buri shusho ntigomba kuba igice, ahubwo ni umufasha utwara. Reba firime ya Stephen Spielberg - ngaho kaseti zose zifite agaciro.
Ati: "Natekereje ko nahuye rwose na njye rwose, umugore w'ikinege. Mu mutwe wanjye wagiye muri iyi sano, nashakaga umwana, nanze". Ariko yaranze "ariko arasaba"
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"Ikigaragara ni uko wabivuze kuko uyu muyobozi yahagaze mu ntangiriro z'umwuga wawe:" Urutonde rwa Schindler "rwari uwa kabiri muri biografiya ...
- Arambaza akabari keza. Sinkeka umuyobozi mugihe atari iby'umwuka, ntabwo byoroshye, ntabwo ari umunyabwenge, bidahuye nibikorwa bifatika. Ariko gutya nkuburyo buke - bwuzuye kubishakiye no hejuru. Hano ntabwo ari angeya ya kabiri Angeya idirishya, ariyari munsi yubusambanyi bwuzuye, gufungura isi. Kandi numwimerere kshyshtof keshevsky! Kandi kubikorwa bya filozofiya ya Angeya Zhulavsky, Kusyshtof Zayssey ...
- Ariko, ntuhishe icyambere cyabayeho mumahanga gusa ...
"Kubera iyo mpamvu, Spielberg, naciwe mpamagara ubwoko bumwe bw'abakundana ku bwoko bumwe bw'abakundana, ndetse batoranywa kuri Telepor nk'umutingimu w'imibonano mpuzabitsina, ariko sinaza igihembo. Uyu ni AMPluya yambabaje, ntabwo yatanze kugira ngo atere imbere, kandi nahisemo kugerageza umunezero mu mahanga. Nkuko byagaragaye, ntibyatakaje. Nakinnye kandi mu Bufaransa no muri Amerika, no muri Repubulika ya Ceki, no muri Ukraine, no muri Biyelorusiya, no mu Burusiya bwanjye ... gusesengura ku isi, naje kuri Umwanzuro ko, uko bigaragara, imitekerereze yanjye ntabwo ari Igipolonye, nubwo ndi pole yuzuye. Ntabwo rero ndubahirize kugereranya umuturanyi, kugirira ishyari, kandi ndi hafi yubumwe bwabanyamerika, mugihe buriwese yizeye cyane, umunyamahanga mubibazo ko bidahwitse akandi .
- Guteza imbere umwanya wisi, ukeneye icyongereza cyiza, Igifaransa, Ikirusiya - kugirango utiganye. Wagize akamenyero ko kwiga?
- Noneho niga gutekereza. Kandi rero ndi umuntu ufatika kandi ufate mubisanzwe kubikenewe. Nkunda kumva igitaliyani, ariko simbyigisha, kubera ko nta nteruro ikwiye. Ariko icyarimwe, ndashaka kwiga gutegura indege, kandi nari ntarampamagara kuba umuderevu. (Kumwenyura.)
"Ndashimira ubwigenge kandi ndabarwa wenyine"
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- Ariko kuri konte yawe yuzuyemo izindi nshingano muburyo, kandi uri umuntu udasanzwe uvuga ko niba bishoboka, ntabwo byari ibihe byacu kubuzima, nubusa bwabantu mukinyejana gishize. Urashobora gusobanura impamvu?
- Muri iyo myaka, nta mbibi zabujijwe ukundi hagati y'icyiza n'ikibi, hari imitsi isobanutse kandi byose birateganijwe: abagore bigaruriye umwanya wabo, abantu - ibyabo. Icyubahiro cya muntu cyashyizwe ku mutwe w'inguni, no kurwanya imihindagurikire y'ikirere, gushimisha cyane, amafaranga yoroheje yaciriweho iteka. Byari indabyo zubuhanzi, kugeza kumugaragaro. Imyitwarire iriho ntabwo ugereranije n'abo: uruziga rwa Unisex, bose barabyuka.
"Wowe na mushikiwabo Dototh wabaye abakinnyi, ariko na we akaba utanga ikiganiro cya TV." Iki gice cyageze kugukunda?
- Birakabije. Filime zisigaye igihe kirekire, zirashobora gusubirwamo.
- Mubyukuri, kimwe na cartoons. Kandi umaze kuvuga ko imico ukunda ari impongo za Bambi. Biragaragara, uri umukomeretse umwe kandi utagira kirengera?
- kandi twese turi. Ibi ntabwo bifungura. Kandi birakenewe gukomeza umwana wera. Mushiki wanjye azakura hamwe na mushiki wanjye, Nshimishijwe no kumusanga nongera kwemeza ko abana ari abamarayika nyabo!
- Hariho igihe Theatre yigaruriye igice kinini cyubuzima bwawe. Kuki uyumunsi wirengagiza ibyabaye?
- Rero ibintu nibyibanze kuri firime. Ndasenga ikinamico nka mbere, burigihe uza mubikorwa bya bagenzi bawe iyo bitwaga. Hano nafashwe na Alena Babenko kandi yasuye ibyo yitabira. Ahari nzajya tujya mu Burusiya. Hagati aho, ntabwo ndambiwe kuvuga abahanzi bawe. Korana nabo kuruhande - impano. Mu gihugu cy'Uburusiya rwose impano nyinshi! N'abantu babikuye ku mutima, bakomeye.
"Ndi umuntu wo mu rugo, ndi umuhanda ureba ko nkoresha mu gikoni"
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- Wamenye inshuro nyinshi ko ushishikajwe ninyuguti zishobora guhinduka. Biragaragara ko udashobora kwitirirwa ubwoko butangwa?
Ati: "Ndashobora kwihanganira ibitagenda neza igihe kirekire, ariko noneho guturika biraza, kandi nzahindura ibintu byose bikabije. Izi ni ububiko bw'ingufu. Kandi ndabisaba abantu bose kutaguma mu gishanga.
- Urabizi, uranyibutsa George Clooney. Nubushobozi bwo kubona gloss mumyaka myinshi, kandi kuba, nkawe, bigeze gusuzuma neza cyane, ariko, ariko, ariko, usaba ubundi buryo.
- I muburyo, nishimiye ko ubona ikintu gihuriyeho hagati yacu. Clooney ni imico idasanzwe. Afite impamyabumenyi mu myaka yashize! Ibyo atanga byose bifite amatsiko kandi birumwe kugirango batsinde. Kandi kuri njye ubwanjye ndashobora kuvuga ko ubu ndababajwe numushinga wanjye mushya - Imyambarire yamateka "yavutse afite saber", igiye kurasa nkumuyobozi muri Polonye. Kandi nanjye ubwanjye twatanze uruhare runini. . Ibi kandi bibaho kuri iyi mbora yubumaji. .) Kumwenyura.) Noneho ndukishwe ninshuti magara zinteye inkunga no gushyigikirwa mubikorwa byose, kandi mfite urugamba rwibintu atari njye wenyine. Nubwo umusaruro ari inshingano zikomeye, mfite iki gikorwa muri Buzz, kuko ubwanjye mfata ibyo byose mfata amaboko yawe. Ubu ni ubucuruzi bukuru.
- Kandi wigeze wumva ko yakuze?
- Byaragaragaye. Kandi iminsi yose isabukuru ikubiyemo iyi myumvire. Mubyukuri, ibimenyetso byinshi byagaragara bisa nkaho bikomeza umwanya, ariko birakongora. Kuva mubihe byiza - byahagaritse ubwoba buke kubera umuntu ahandi imbere, ibyo ndabyemera. Byoroshye byoroshye gutangira kwihanganira ubuswa bwabandi. Ntabwo natutse igihe natsindaga ku cyifuzo kigaragara cyo kugukoresha. Ariko ibibi byose biracyakandamiza. Bibabaza ko nubwoko byari byiza kose, kandi ibintu byose bigurishwa nibigurwa. Ni mu giciro cya buri wese. Bitarize cyane, birashoboka. Kandi hano ndashimira indaya ya archetype. Ahita atanga umubano wubunyangamugayo.
"Noneho niga Gutekereza"
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- yakoresheje izi serivisi?
- ntabwo. Kuki untera? Ndavuga inzira ndende. Ingero nyinshi iyo abagore bemeye kubana numuntu wubugome, buhendutse kubutunzi bwe, kandi birababaje. Kandi njye, nkumuhanzi, rimwe na rimwe wakomeje kumvikana kandi kubwubanga bwamafaranga kubakunzi be bumvikanye na gato, ntabwo ari imishinga igerageza. Muri uru rubanza, akazi kari ku kibuga nticyari kikiri njye ibiruhuko. Nubwo bimeze bityo, mfite umwanya, kandi sinzigera nemera gukoresha poropagande, urugero. Nizera ko ecran idakwiye gutanga umusanzu mubijyanye nigice cyigihugu. Amashusho yerekana porunogarafiya ni kirazira kimwe. Nagira isoni n'ababyeyi banjye, mushiki wanjye. Kandi rero - indaya iba muri buri wese muri twe. Uyu ni umumarayika wa murumurizo, cyangwa igiti cyo kugurisha. Icyo ni igitekerezo cyanjye. By the way, birasa nkaho iyi sisitemu yo guhuza yegereye cyane Uburusiya. Abantu batuye igihugu cyawe nibwo bwa nyuma mugihe cyintambara ya kabiri yisi yose. Noneho ubu hariho ibyo mutumvikanaho, kandi ibintu byose bitwawe no gukungahaza gusa ... kuva nkora ku -basi-abadozi batandukanye, nkunda kuganira kuri iyi ngingo n'Abadage, n'Abafaransa, hamwe n'Abayahudi. Urabona, ndi umuntu utitaye cyane. Kuri njye, nta garindwa. Kurugero, kumuhanda wanjye, mu murwa mukuru w'igihugu cy'Uburayi, Asfalt yashyizwemo ikintu, yuzuye ibice, yahisemo, kandi sinshobora kurenga iyi hack. Sinigeze mvuga neza na Depite, ufite umujyi. Kandi niba ntabikora, bizagaragara kubwimbaraga. Kubwamahirwe, mugihe muri Polonye aya mategeko agenga.
- Nkuko ndabyumva, ntabwo uri umuturage wo mu gihugu ...
- Ntuye mu nzu mu buryo bwa minimalism. Ndi umuntu murugo, ndi umuhanda, nkoresha mugikoni, reka tuvuge, kugirango utegure igikoni kuri bene wacu ...
- Ndibuka uburyo muri kimwe mubiganiro waryoshye waganiriye kubyerekeye amase, isupu yakaze ningurube zakozwe na nyoko ...
- Yoo, ni ingeso nziza! Schnithel nigikoni cyacu. Byongeye kandi, ntabwo binini natwe, nko mubudage, ariko burangirira no kunyurwa. Niba ukomeje kongera ibirayi ... Nibyo, ubu nanze inyama, ubu nanze imirire yoroheje, nkurikiza ubuzima bwanjye, gariyamoshi inshuro eshatu mu cyumweru. Siporo nahoraga ndi hafi: Boxong, Kickboxing, Umupira wamaguru, Volleyball, kugendera ...
- uri sibrit?
- Kandi mbega ukuntu! Mfite akamaro kumarangamutima, ibyiyumvo byamayeri ... ubuzima mubigaragaza byose bigomba kuba byiza, humura gukoraho, gerageza kwibuka buri mwanya, utabuze igitonyanga, no kwishimira buri segonda. Ugomba gutembera, gusoma, ntabwo ari ubunebwe, ibitabo bigoye, reba firime, gukora, guhura ninshuti, urukundo ... ni ngombwa!