- Vladimir Vladimirovich, kuki wahisemo hamwe na Ivan iki gihe kugirango ujye mu gihugu cya Sherlock Holmes?
- Ubu ni bwo buryo bwanjye bwite. Nashimishijwe n'ubuvanganzo bw'abana kuva mu bwana kuva mu bwana. Winnie Pooh, Mary Poppins, Umwami Arthur na Knight ba ku meza, Robin Hood ni yo yakuriye, ibyo byose ndabivuga, cyane ndashobora kukubwira byinshi kuri njye. Niba nasabwe guhamagara ibitabo bibiri bikomeye kwisi rero, birumvikana ko byaba ibitabo byikirusiya nicyongereza. Iyo twarashe "Amerika inkuru imwe" hanyuma "Uruzinduko De Ubufaransa, ibyo nkunda kandi tuzi neza:" Reka dukore mu Butaliyani! ", Umuntu wese akunda uyu Butaliyani cyane. Kandi twakuyemo. Noneho habaye "puzzle yo mu Budage", byari bigoye kuri njye, kuko byari inkuru yihariye. Hanyuma nibwira nti: Reka nshimishe kandi nkodesha filime ibyerekeye Ubwongereza.
- Wabonye isabukuru yawe i Paris hanyuma uhamagare Ubufaransa mugihugu urimo mwiza cyane. Niki, mubitekerezo byawe, bitandukaniye he nubwongereza? Nigute Ubongereza ari abafaransa?
- Biratandukanye cyane muri byose. Aba ni abantu babiri bahujwe mubuzima bwabo bwose. Ubwongereza bwatsindiye Abafaransa-Fartans mu 1066, mu binyejana byinshi ikigo cy'icyongereza cyavugaga mu gifaransa gusa; Mu kinyejana cya XIV-XV, bwateyega Ubufaransa, bigarurira kimwe cya kabiri cy'ubutaka bwabwo, ni cyo cyitwa intambara y'inkuru. Aba bantu barushanwe iteka, barwanaho, bahora bagirira ishyari. Kurushanwa muri byose: Niyihe kaminuza ikuze, ni ikihe gihugu gisuzuma ikintu cyingenzi mu Burayi, icyo umwami afite uruhare runini? .. mubwongereza kandi Ubufaransa ntabwo busa mubintu byose. Ibi ni ibihugu bitandukanye rwose. Inyuguti zitandukanye, ihanamye zitandukanye, amafunguro atandukanye. Ibiryo nigice cyingenzi cyumuco kubafaransa. Na vino. Abongereza kubwibi ni imyifatire itandukanye rwose, yoroshye cyane. Kandi ntabwo vino, ahubwo ni byeri. Abongereza ni abantu bakomeye cyane, cyane cyane. Nirirwa - abanyamannshi bake, bafunzwe cyane, nkabo "Uburayi bwabayapani", ntibumvikana kuri buri wese. Abongereza bafite impande nyinshi, Abafaransa bafite ibice bike. Biroroshye kugera kuri essence. Umuntu yavuze, kandi neza: "Nubwo bimeze bityo, ikintu nyamukuru kiranga icyongereza kiteye isoni." Ariko ayo mahanga ahunga muri umwe: Ntabwo ari umuvuduko umwe umunota umwe ko aribyiza kwisi. Gusa Umufaransa azakubwira kubyerekeye kugenda. Kandi icyongereza kizagira isoni, giteye isoni, bizakenerwa kubikuraho. Ariko batekereza kuri bo ubwabo.
Iki gihe, Vladimir Pozner na Ivan urgant yahisemo Ubwongereza bwamayobera. .
- Kubona iki, uru rugendo rwari rwingenzi?
- Birashoboka ibyo nikoreye ubwanjye. Abongereza ubu batangiye gutekereza kubo aribo. Kuva kera bari abongereza, mugihe imfube zose zumwe muri ubwo bwami ntiyigeze zibagirwa abo aribo. Scots - ko ari Abagore, Welsh - ko ari Welsh, Irilande yibutse ko ari Irlande. Abongereza babaye Abongereza. Ariko gusenyuka kw'ubwami bw'Abongereza, ntibyabaye. Nyuma ya byose, mubyukuri Ubwongereza ... Ntakiri Uwa mbere Ubwongereza. Noneho Urwibutso rw'Ubwongereza kandi urashaka amateka yabo - igihe bari abongereza. Ibi ni ibihe bya Elizabeth mbere, ibihe bya Shakespeare.
- Ni ayahe matera mu Bwongereza wakwita gushimisha cyane?
- birashoboka ko rimwe mu nama zishimishije ntibyari kumwe numuntu, ariko hamwe nikintu. Nanjiye mubwiza butangaje bwa katedrali. Iyi katedrale yububiko "Amasezerano akomeye yamasezerano", imwe muri kopi enye zumwimerere zanditswe mu ntoki zifite kashe ya cyami. Iyi nyandiko, amatariki yagarutse kuri 1215, ahatira umwami - muriki gihe, John I - Gabanya imbaraga zacyo. Uyu munsi, twaba nkubumbuzi byitwa demokarasi. Aya masezerano ni amateka ya demokarasi muburyo bwera. Nkimubona, numvaga ndimo guhura nanzizamusaza, uwo ntigeze mpura kugiti cyanjye. Iyi ni yo nama "idasanzwe." Niba tuvuga ku banyekuruza, ahari, birashoboka cyane ko umwanditsi w'icyongereza yari igitangaza Sitefano Fry.
"Nkunda kuba mu kintu kibarwa mu binyejana byinshi." .
- Niki ukunda cyane mu Bwongereza?
- Londres, birumvikana. Kubera iyi firime, igihe nari meren nyinshi kukazi, namukunze cyane. London ni imigi myinshi mito yahujije mu nini. Nkunda kuba mubintu bibarwa mu binyejana byinshi. Ndasenga Westmirge Abbey. Parike ya Londres hamwe namategeko manini ntagereranywa, kuko atari byo bitabujijwe kugenda: abantu barabajyana, kuruhuka, buri gihe bari bazi ko Abongereza babujijwe kandi byoroshye. Ariko niki cyankubise: Twarashe imwe mumashusho ya firime muri parike, abantu bari bicaye hafi yacu kandi bararohama. Kandi nakwirakwije ibiringibaga, ndabatera, dufite kamera, kurasa bigenda. Mu mujyi uwo ari wo wose w'isi ikikije imbaga Zawak. Kandi i Londres, nta muntu waguye. Nibyo, birumvikana ko bari bafite amatsiko, ariko abongereza bafatwa nkigihe, injiji zateye umwanya wundi.
- Nyamuneka sobanura icyongereza gisanzwe, mubitekerezo byawe. Ninde wakwita icyongereza gisanzwe?
- Ahari, iyi ni ubushishozi: Urwenya rutangaje rwo gusetsa, kunangira, amayeri, ubutwari, mukaba, ukikingira, ukimara gutangira gusobanura "bisanzwe" muribi cyangwa ibyo , ikintu kiringaniye, ubukene.
"Imwe mu mashusho ya firime twajyanye na parike, abantu bari bicaye hafi yacu kandi bararohama. Kandi nakwirakwije ibiringibaga, ndabatera, dufite kamera, kurasa bigenda. Mu mujyi uwo ari wo wose w'isi ikikije imbaga Zawak. Kandi i Londres, nta muntu n'umwe wazamutse. " Ifoto: M.
- Utekereza ko ari iki, abareba televiziyo biga ikintu gishya kijyanye n'Ubwongereza muri iyi firime?
- Yego, birumvikana, gusa ntumbaze neza. Intego ya firime zanjye zose ni ugufungura igihugu nabantu mubuzima bwe, abakwumva. Kugerageza kwerekana Umwuka, ishingiro ryiki gihugu. Ntabwo nkuraho firime zubukerarugendo. Ntekereza ko abari aho bigiye ubwabo ubwabo bashya kandi batunguranye.