LyUdmila TURGIG: "Niba mfite igihumbi cyangwa ibiri, nzabaha umuntu utishoboye"

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Gufungura, nkuko mubizi, ntabwo byari igihe cyoroshye kubahanzi. Umuntu na bose batangiye gutekereza kurokoka kubera kubura akazi. Undi munsi, umuyaga wo kuganira wateje ikiganiro na Ludmila Porgina, bivugwa ko binubira kubura amafaranga. Abafana benshi ntibizeraga ko umukinnyi wa filime, ufite imitungo itimukanwa, ashobora guhura n'ingorane nk'izo, ndetse itangira no kubikekwa mu buyobozi. Twavuganye n'umupfakazi wa Nikolai Karachev tumenya uko amara umwanya mu gihe icyorezo cy'agapone kandi uko ibintu byarangiye ku mwanya w'imari. Lyodmila Andreevna yabwiye ko ibintu byose bitameze neza nkuko bisa nkaho aribonera. Ubu ari igihe cyuzuye, gukuramo hagati yinzu hamwe nukazu.

- Igice cya kabiri ntuye ku kazu, igice - muri Moscou. Ku kazu mfite agace kitangaje. Hano hari umwuzukuru wanjye - Olga, Yanochka, umukazana wanjye wa Ira, umuhungu wa Andryusha arahari, akora kumurongo. Kandi twese tumarana. Dukora kajugujugu, tuguruka kuri Baba Yaga hamwe na Olekoy, shushanya, turabona, tureba firime nziza, soma ibitabo. Kandi iyo mgeze i Moscou, nambara mask, gants, njya mu iduka kugura ikintu umwuzuko uryoshye, ndetse no gutembera mu muhanda. Ntuye muri centre, muri Lane. Hano dufite intagondwa igana iwacu, urwibutso rwa Muslim Mandoyev, ngiye hano kilometero. Urabona, ugomba kwimuka, ntamuntu hano - ndagiye. Noneho ubu hari igihe cyiza cyo gutekereza no gusobanukirwa ko washoboye gukora mubuzima bwawe, ntabwo, ugomba kwihana, ugomba kwihana, ugomba gusaba imbabazi. Iki ni igihe cyiza. Byaragaragaye ko ibintu byose bihujwe. Byasaga naho mbere yuko Ubushinwa buri kure. Twahagurutse ngo dufatwa na Kohl mu "masaha 9 yo guhunga. Ariko amaherezo twese: kandi abarabu, Abanyamerika b'Abanyafurika bose bahura nayi virusi. Kandi twese turi - ikintu kimwe, twese turi - abantu bo mwisi, ni ngombwa gusobanukirwa byose. Birahagije kumva ko hari intambara zihagije, zica. Nko muri karato yerekeye injangwe Leopold: "Basore, reka tubane!"

- Nibyiza, usibye abavandimwe mugihugu, uracyavugana numuntu?

- Yego, iki nicyo gihe tugomba gutekereza kubacu. Nabihamagaye mu Butaliyani, Ubudage, Espanye, muri Amerika. Ndumva uburyo nshaka kubona aba bantu, kandi ndumva ko ntashobora kuguruka, kuko iryo tegeko rikwirakwira mu ndege nkizo. Ariko nkuko ubishaka umunezero, urukundo, gushyikirana. Hano turimo kuvugana kuri terefone amasaha menshi, uburambe bwo kuvunja, mugihe turwana nibi, dushyigikirana. Kandi ndashyigikiye kandi inshuti zawe zose kure. Kandi mfite umukunzi wumukobwa ugeze mu za bukuru, ufite imyaka 85, wahoze ari Ballerina, kurugero. Ndabashyigikiye, mvuga ko isoko yaje, kandi niba impeta yaje, ibintu byose bizaba byiza. Ibiti birabya, genda imvura ... twabuze mu rubura rw'imbeho - ibyo ni, nyamuneka imvura. Uzi inyoni zingahe zinkunda akazu, ibyo sinigeze mbona? Inyoni zose zifunze, twanamanitswe ibishya. Uratekereza? Iyi ni umunezero nk'uwo! Inyoni ntizitinya, jya hasi. Birashoboka kuko hariho imodoka nke, indege nto ziraguruka. Kandi twicaye bangahe ku kiyaga? Turabagaburira, barashima cyane. (Aseka.)

Imyaka myinshi irashize, Lydila Torgin, hamwe na Nikolai Karachev Flew yerekeza mu Bushinwa kwivuza

Imyaka myinshi irashize, Lydila Torgin, hamwe na Nikolai Karachev Flew yerekeza mu Bushinwa kwivuza

Gennady Cherkasov

- Vuba aha, abahanzi batangiye kwinubira ko vuba aha bazagira icyo babaho. Ibi bintu byarakugizeho ingaruka muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose?

- Ubu abantu ubu babayeho cyane - kandi ntabwo abatsinda gusa badakurwaho kandi ntibakora, ahubwo nabafite ubucuruzi buke, kurugero. Abageze mu zabukuru, bafite pansiyo nto, ntibashobora no kujya ku kazi. Iki nikibazo cyigihugu cyacu. Ariko niba tuvuga abahanzi ... Twishyuwe byose muri theatre, ndi mu kigo cya Leta (Lenkom Theatre ya Lenkom - hafi.). Ariko kumakinamico idahangayikishije cyane - Harakomeye. N'ubundi kandi, usibye abateramu batumiye, harakorerwa abakozi, ibaruramari, ibaruramari, umuyobozi - abantu benshi bakora mukinamico! Mubisanzwe ndashaka kuvuga ko iyo mbonye ko umuntu ari mubi niba mfite igihumbi cyangwa bibiri byinyongera - Nzaha umuntu abatishoboye. Nagiye mu iduka, nk'urugero, hari nyirasenge ushaje, ntushobora gufata sousa, tukatwe ... neza, ni iki? Nibyiza, fata amafaranga, gura icyo ushaka! Cyangwa injangwe ifata igice gito cyubatse ... Ntekereza ko iki kibazo arigihe cyo gutekereza, igihe cyo kumenyekana, mugihe ukeneye kumva ko ikintu cyingenzi icyo aricyo: Diamond Ntabwo uzagukiza muri Coronasi, cyangwa Fasha umuntu uzagura ubuzima bwawe imyaka myinshi? Ni ngombwa cyane. Iki nigikorwa cyawe, uru nirwo rukundo ukunda abantu.

Nibyo, tuzakomeza kuyitonganya igihe kirekire. Nibyo, birashoboka ko tuzahinduka amatike ahendutse muri theatre, yego, tuzagerageza gukina kugirango dukurure abantu ibyago kugirango barese barebe, uhereye kubyaremwe Shakespeare kandi cyane. Birumvikana koko, byanze bikunze, dufasha abantu, kuko mugihe cyintambara, abakinnyi bateye imbere bakoze. Kandi na none, abantu barabikeneye. Kuri njye mbona iki gihe kitoroshye nacyo kigufasha gutekereza kubuhanzi, bwingenzi mumuco kubantu kuri iyi si. Ubu rero abantu bose barimo kureba firime. Nanonengeye kuvugurura Andron Konchalovsky, Andrei Tarkovsky na Nikita Mikhalkov. Amashusho meza yo mu Burusiya. Nanyuze mu mateka yacu ya sinema.

- Wowe ubwawe ubona uko ibi bihe? Ufite icyizere?

- Ntekereza ko tuzabyuka, ibintu byose bizaba byiza, ariko ukeneye igihe. Birakenewe gusa kubahiriza buriwese kandi bitondera. Ntabwo ibintu byose bizahita bikora, reka tubone kwihangana, kugufasha ninde ushobora? Tekereza ku nyamaswa, urugero. Ndetse no mu Itegeko Nshinga rizakosorwa kubyerekeye imyifatire ku nyamaswa. Dufite imbwa ninjangwe zingahe? Mu Bwongereza, Amerika ntabwo ari! Kumuhanda wa gatanu, kurugero, byagurishijwe cyane kumadorari adafite aho baba. Reka tube ubwoko bwose kandi tugire ubuntu. Ndashaka rero ko abantu bumva kumenya uko twese turi ingenzi kuri buriwese. Mbega ukuntu ari ngombwa kumva gutaka kw'abana ku muhanda, kuko ari ngombwa kubona umukecuru, kunyura mu muhanda wa Tverskaya w'inzibacyuho, kandi ntabwo ari urubyiruko gusa rushobora gusohoka gusa. Reka tubitekerezeho, sawa?

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