Evgeny Miller yamaze igihe kinini akurura ibitekerezo byabateze amatwi - nyuma ya byose, kuri konte ye ubwenge nintwari zidasobanutse. Ikibabaje cyoroshye cya vertex ya "bashiki bacu batatu" muri Oleg Tabatov Theatre, intwari ikomeye "kuri statu ya MHT, intwari ikomeye kandi yizewe murukurikirane rwa TV" Leningrad-46 "n'ishyaka urugwiro na Polar ruvuga muri "kabiri ikomeye". Ariko umukinnyi wumukinnyi uzi bike, hanyuma ntabwo ibintu byose bihuye nukuri. None amaherezo ni iki kandi amaherezo yabonye umunezero we? Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- Zhenya, uherutse kuba papa, ndagushimiye! Warindiriye icyarimwe abana babiri: umuhungu na premiere y "intebe" muri "Tabakcoque".
- Urakoze! Nibyo, ku ya 10 Mata, jye n'umugore wanjye twabaye ababyeyi. Kandi nari ntegereje abana batatu, kuko vuba aha twagize undi mwanzi - "Intambara ya Pectorali", yatanzwe na Pectotoraliziya. Byari bimeze, ndabyaye, ariko ntakintu kibi, cyari mu ijwi. (Kumwenyura.)
- Ariko ubu wowe, ntekereza, ziri mu gusaza gato kuvuga ko abafatanyabikorwa bawe mu mikino bakubona. Yamaze kuba yarashoboye kumva papa?
- Oya, ndatangira kumva icyo aricyo. Ndashaka kumererwa cyane numuhungu wanjye, gusa kubeshya cyangwa kwicara iruhande rwe, komeza amaboko yanjye. Yatangiye kurya bike, ariko ni ubuswa ugereranije n'ibyiyumvo bishya. Muri iki gihe, Vladimir Lvovich Mashkova, kugeza igihembwe kirangiye, ndekura imyitozo y'imyitwarire mishya kugira ngo akomeze n'umuryango we na nyuma gato, turakenera kwinjiza izindi. Yagiye kunsanganira. Kandi ndashimira cyane abo bakorana umunezero utaryarya.
- Wigeze utanga mugihe cyo kuvuka umwana?
- ntabwo. Muri iki gihe, nagiye gusa "intebe" ziruka. Akimara akimara kumenya ko umuhungu wanjye yavutse. Ariko sinaba kubyara uko byagenda kose, kuko byari gucika intege. (Kumwenyura.)
Evgeny Miller
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
- Wowe mugihe wamenye ko uzahita uba papa, kandi wenda mbere, umaze kwifuzaga abana?
- Natahuye ko nshaka umwana. Kandi nabitekereje kuva i Katy, ariko nta gikorwa cyihariye cyarimo. Nubwo, nk'abantu bose basanzwe muri iki gihe cyacu, bagiye mu baganga, bagenzuye ubuzima, twabwiwe ko byose byari byiza. Hanyuma ibyitwa, bahisemo uko bizaba bimeze. Kandi rero, Imana ishimwe, twavutse Mikhail.
Ati: "Reka tuvuge ku" mwana "wa kabiri, wasohoye" intebe ", aho uri mu rwego rwo kwinjiza agaciro k'umuhuzarnone wawe, hamwe n'ubuzima bugoye bwaje intwari. Wumva umeze ute kubijyanye numukinnyi?
"Nkumukinnyi, ngomba gutsindishiriza imico yanjye, ariko rwose ndambabarira, ndamureba cyane, kuko yitiranyije mubuzima bwe, no mubinyoma bye." Yazanye amategeko amwe ntiyashoboraga kubavamo, ngo yitondeke kandi mu rukundo rwometseho, mbega umuryango uwo ari we, umubano w'umugabo n'umugore. Yayobewe muri byose, ariko heroine amufasha kubimenya.
- Wigeze wumva urukundo icyo aricyo? Niba iyi myumvire wahangayikishijwe n'imyaka makumyabiri?
- Sinzi niba urukundo aricyo mbere. Noneho kuri njye ikintu cyingenzi mumibanire yabagabo nabagore ni ikizere hagati yacu, ituze nubushobozi bwo kuba wenyine. Iyo abantu batagerageje kuvugana, batanga umudendezo ugana undi wizeye byuzuye ... Ibi birashoboka urukundo.
Bavuga bati: "Abakinnyi benshi bareba, bamagana intwari, baravuga bati: Yagenzuye Passeport yintwari, ahamagara nimero ya terefone yamuhaye, agerageza kwerekana ibinyoma bye.
- Noneho arabeshya? Kubeshya. Ninde Wiyandarika?
- Nizera ko muri rusange ari muri rusange, amaherezo ntiyakoresheje uko ibintu bimeze gutegura ubuzima bwe, ariko agerageza kumufasha. Wowe ubwawe ntufunze terefone, ijambo ryibanga rya mudasobwa?
- Nta banga mfite kuva Kati.
- Ujya ushuka?
- Ntabwo nshobora kwihanganira ikinyoma. Iyaba "mu gakiza". Sinzi kubeshya - guhita bigaragara niba ngerageza kubikora. Kuva mu bwana, Data yaranyize. Erega uburiganya rimwe na rimwe yakiriwe n'indogobe ye.
"Ndashaka kurushaho kubana n'umuhungu wanjye iruhande rwe, nkomeza kuboko kwanjye. Natangiye gusinzira bihagije, ariko ni ubuswa!"
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
Ati: "Wakorewe mu nzu y'imikino ya Oleg Tabakov imyaka cumi n'umwe, aho ukina inshingano nyinshi nyamukuru, kandi igitabo gishimishije cyaranze buhoro buhoro. Nubwo bimeze bityo, uragira ubwoba, mugihe nta kazi gashya kahari mugihe gito?
- Birumvikana ko ntangiye guhangayika ndetse no guhagarika umutima. Ucecetse guceceka, uratekereza: "Wibagiwe ibyawe! Bose, ntukeneye umuntu! ". Icyo gukora, umwuga nuwo, kandi rwose ntangiye kwigira. Ahari ubu ntabwo irenze gukabije, hamwe nimyaka, ibintu byose birakosowe gato.
- Waba utuje, tekereza kumuntu wo kubabyeyi?
- Mama, birashoboka. Ni umuganga, umuganga w'umugore-uwumutungo, ni umuntu ufite impumuro nziza, afite inshingano zikomeye. Kandi nkunda abantu bose gutekereza, ibintu byose byakemuwe, guteka, nubwo bitakenewe. Nubwo ubu ndangije kureba neza, ndatekereza, birashoboka, ntabwo ari ngombwa kugirango abantu bahangayikishe. Ariko birashoboka ko ari muri papa. Papa yari injeniyeri, umuyobozi wa DK Crakalov, hanyuma - Philharmonic muri Novoribickk, nyuma - Umuyobozi wungirije wa komite y'akarere ku muco. Yakundaga guhatirwa gufata ibyemezo vuba, kandi rimwe na rimwe bamenyaga amakosa ibyo ubwe ubwe yavuze. Ndagerageza gupima inshuro icumi noneho, hanyuma ukate. Ariko niba nategetse ikintu, hanyuma amaherezo. Kuri njye ubwanjye.
- Kandi niki ushobora gutemagura?
- Mu mibanire. Vuba aha, witonda, ndetse no kubantu "hamwe na Mileage". . Ndashobora gushimisha ibihaha byabantu, umusore, ariko sinkunda inshingano, ubuhemu n'ibinyoma. Niba numva ko umuntu abeshya, ntabwo ngiye kujya impaka cyangwa kumenya umubano. Biroroshye kuvuga: "Murakoze byose, kuri ibyo itumanaho ryacu rirahagarikwa."
- Uraza mu burakari?
- Nukuri! Biranyoroheye cyane. Ni muri urwo rwego, ndi umuntu utuje, hamwe n'icyubahiro gito. Kandi amacakubiri arashobora kubaho ahantu hose. Ariko niga kubuza amarangamutima yanjye.
- Byabaye ko ugishobora kubuza kandi wangiza ikintu mugutegura umwuga cyangwa umuntu ku giti cye?
- Iyo ngeze ku byitegererezo, kurasa cyangwa imyitozo ya mbere, imyitwarire yanjye ikunze kugaragara ko ifunze, ndetse no ku bantu, bisa nkaho ntahwema kutinyurwa. Baza: "Uraho, ugenda iki, mugenda bite?" - Kandi mubyukuri, mfite akazi gakomeye muri iki gihe, kandi simbona ibyo ndeba.
- Katwari yakora iki usibye uruhare rushya rwa Mama kandi afite imyaka ingahe?
- afite makumyabiri n'umunani. Numukozi windege, ariko kuburezi - umuhanga mubiciro, ariko muri Moscou biragoye cyane kubona akazi kabuhariwe. Byongeye kandi, Kate yahoraga ashaka gukorana n'umukozi windege, iyi nizo nzozi ze. Muri rusange akunda kwiga, abona amasomo amwe, amasomo, amenya indimi zitandukanye, ntabwo yicaye nta rubanza.
"Ubushobozi bukomeye bwa Kati bwo kumva, gake, ufite iyi mpano. Turimo tuvuga cyane. Ndasangiye ibyo nabyaye byose"
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
- Ubwoba! Kandi wumva umeze ute ku ndege?
"Nakundaga kugira ubwoba bwinshi, ubu ndaguruka bisanzwe."
- Nyuma yo guhura na Katya?
- ntabwo. Igihe twahuraga, ntabwo yari umukozi windege. Mumaze kuri njye yize, arangije amasomo yo ku "byiza."
- urimo imyaka ine. Ako kanya yumva ko uyu ari umuntu wawe, cyangwa nawe yarebye?
- Oya, ntabwo ako kanya. Nyuma yigihe gito nasanze ko tumeze neza ko twuzuzwa cyane.
- Uwahoze ari umugore wawe Julia Kovalev yari umukinnyi wa filime. Kandi Katya akunda Theatre na firime, byose birashimishije kuri we?
- Yego, ariko niyo yaba adakunda ikinamico, ntakintu kibi. Turaganira cyane, burigihe hari icyo uhuza. Nsangiye ibintu byose byatetse. Muri rusange Kati ni ubushobozi bukomeye bwo kumva, ni gake ufite. Julia numugore wanjye wa kabiri. Iya mbere, Lena, ntabwo ari umukinnyi wa filime, ahubwo yanakoze mukinana. Muri Globus yacu, hari studio ya plastiki. Twese twabyinnye mu mahugurwa, bahuye. Twari dufite imyaka igera kuri icumi na Lena hari ukuntu yahujije. Guhubuka. Bariyato. Noneho ameze neza, Imana ishimwe. Nanjye, kuko mbere yuko abana ba Mikhail badafite.
- guhubuka, gutandukana, no kuvuga ko rubit ...
Ati: "Nabaye ikintu nk'iki mfite imyaka, gusobanukirwa n'ikintu. Twese dutandukanye cyane, ntabwo byoroshye, muri rusange ndi umuntu utoroshye. Nkeneye umudendezo, umwanya wawe. Ntabwo nshobora gukora ku bihe bimwe, guhatira ikintu gukora, imipaka, muri rusange, gerageza kundeba.
- Ariko uravuga Kate, ibizaba murugo kubijyanye cyane kuburyo utahangayikishijwe, hamagara nyuma?
"Sinigeze nsiga, ntavuze aho ndi, ko njye, kandi mpamagara." Mfite itegeko rimwe - gufunga abantu bagomba gutuza.
- Nyoko ntabwo afitanye isano nubuhanzi, papa ahuhwa numuco, ntateganijwe, ariko akaba ataragira uruhare mu mwuga wo guhanga. Wakuye he intangiriro yo gukina?
- Ubwa mbere nitabira uruziga rutangaje rwishuri kandi muri rusange burigihe nkora imirimo yubuhanzi hamwe numunyeshuri mwigana vitea. Byose byahindutse ishuri KVN, baragenda, baragenda. Kandi nize ku ishuri mfite icyongereza icyongereza, mu cyiciro cy'indimi. Kandi nankoreraga mu kigo cya pedic, n'umusemuzi, ariko nagiye hakurya.
- Ni izihe mbaraga zo gutwara mu rwego rwo gutangira gukora imyitozo ngororamubiri?
- Ntekereza ko nakunze abantu. Kandi nasanze ari njye ko byoroshye kuruta gukemura imirimo yimibare no kwigisha siyanse nyayo. Muri icyo gihe, nari mfite isoni nyinshi, nkanyerera n'umwana w'amarangamutima nyine, none ukomeza kuba Shye. Buri gihe mpangayitse cyane mbere yo gutangira akazi gashya ninama nabantu bashya, uko ibintu byose bizagenda, nkuko umubano ufata. Sinshobora gusinzira mbere yumunsi wa mbere urasa, kuko mfite impungenge cyane. Muri rusange, burigihe hamwe no kwishima no guhinda umushyitsi mfata intangiriro yikintu gishya.
- Kandi nyamara ibihangano byawe byibuze byatsinze gato, byagize icyizere?
- Sinzi. Amashusho nubuntu bwonyine nshobora kumenya neza ikintu. Iki gikorwa kimfasha kumva ubwawe, kuko igufasha kugera kubyo uri imbere. Twihumuye, kugurisha imitsi, ibigo, gutsindwa, indwara, clips, igihombo n'intsinzi. Axiom ko ibintu bimeze, nubwo bitanga imbaraga, kandi bihitamo. Kurugero, nyuma y "intebe", nkeneye cyane kuruhuka byibuze kumunsi. Ariko vuba aha sinari amahirwe nkaya, bukeye nategerezabyuka kare tujya kukazi. Ntabwo nabonye umwanya wo gukira, kandi byari bigoye gukina imikorere, ariko nagombaga kubikora.
- Muri novosingk, warangije ishami rya giti hanyuma umagumayo, mu ndege. Muguhubuke bwawe bwite?
- Byari inzira yintego, yatsinzwe ikinamico. Ndangije mu kigo cya mu 1999 kandi ni umwe mu bahanzi bakomeye b'inculate. Kandi mu 2005 yimukiye i Moscou. Yakoreye muri theatre yitiriwe Gogol nigice cya mugitondo, hanyuma yisanga kuri theatre ya Tabakov.
- Iyi myaka itandatu muri "Globusi" yasaga nkaho ari byiza kandi ko byose byari byiza kandi ntibyashakaga guhindura ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose, cyangwa gutwikira: "Kuri Moscou, i Moscou, kuri Moscou"?
- Ibintu byose byari byiza muri Novosibirksk, ariko ngomba kumanika cliché ndende cyane kugirango igihe kinini cyane ndi se wa bachelor. Nibyo, ubanza nabifata bikomeye, noneho - hamwe na brown. Ntabwo ari uko nabitayeho, ariko nahisemo ko igihe kigeze cyo kwikuramo umuzingo, gufata kwigenga no gukomeza. Moscou yari yicaye mu mutwe, hari imyumvire myiza, kandi ubu hari ibintu byose bihinduka ko hari amahirwe menshi mumurwa mukuru. Ntabwo natsinzwe, ariko ni ikintu cyo kugeraho. Ababyeyi bamfashije amazu muri Moscou, muri rusange bashyigikiye bwa mbere. Niba atari bo, nabaga cyane.
"Muri rusange ndi umuntu utoroshye. Nkeneye umudendezo, umwanya wawe. Ntabwo nshobora gukoraho mugihe runaka, guhatira ikintu"
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
- Mbere yibyo, wagiye kuri Moscou?
- neza. Ariko ndacyumva nkundi kandi, birashoboka, sinzigera mpinduka Umuscovite. Nkomoka muri Novosibingk. Nubwo muri rusange sinumva icyo Moscou na Moskvich, Sibiryak atari Abanyasiberiya, PeterS kuvunts ... kuri njye, umujyi uri hejuru yabantu bose. Kandi baratandukanye ...
- Ninde waguhaye amahirwe yo kumva byinshi muri moscou?
- Abantu batandukanye barafasha, bashyigikiwe, harimo na bagenzi babo. N'ijambo ryiza, n'ubucuruzi bufatika. By the way, benshi muribo ntabwo ari Abascovite. Nibyo, Oleg Pavlovich Tabakov yakinnye uruhare runini muribi. Data yari amenyereye, byabereye ku rugendo two muri theatre muri novosibingk. Arambwira ati: "Ndahise nzana Cassettes hamwe na inyandiko zawe, erekana Tobakov." Nanditswe na cassette. Namuzanye, namuzaga muri hoteri. Ntabwo yari ahari, nasize Marina VysheLlavovna Zudina ariruka. Kuri ibi noneho ibintu byose birangira. Nibyo, ntabwo byariho kwerekana, icyo gihe nta nshingano nini mfite. Igisubizo gikomeye cyagaragaye nyuma. Igihe nasunikiraga ku kazi kuri sagol Theatre, Oleg Palyki n'Umuyobozi wageze mu kindi "Roman hamwe na kokayine", reba na Twe Dibowa (Natwe, Novosibirsk) ku ruhare muri theatre ya Tabakov. Data yaje gusura ati: "Reka tuhamagare, harareba." Nanze, ariko aracyamusaba icyifuzo cyo kuza kuri theatre ya Gogol, reba umusore. Orog Palyki arabaza ati: "Kandi rero ni ibyawe, cyangwa iki? Twabonye rero iyi mikorere. Nabyumvise, umusore usanzwe. " Igihe gito, hanyuma se arahamagara, yavuze ko njya duhungira muri "Tobackerka", baranshaka aho. Seryozha puskapalis yatangiye kubishyira mu bikorwa. Nasomye ikinamico, mgera i Sustototori, aranyemerera. Nyuma yibyo, njye na Shibanov bafashe akaya. Nyuma, Oleg Pavlovich yanyohereje kuri "duel" na "vass zheleznov" muri MHT. Muri rusange yari afite liyurure itangaje kumukinnyi nimpano. Yibutse abantu bose kandi bazi ko uyu muhanzi yari akwiriye uru ruhare, ndetse n'uyu - undi. Kandi yibukije ibintu byose, ndetse n'abakoze mu myaka myinshi ishize, maze aravuga ati: "Kandi unshakire Vaswa Pwakin" - kandi ahamagara umuntu ku ruhare. Yibutse kandi amazina, amazina nubufindo bwabantu bahuye, nabantu bose bakoze ibyiza. Yafashaga abahanzi cyane, buri gihe ati: "Kugira ngo abankurikiye, byorohereza byoroshye." Yahoraga azi ibintu byose kubantu bakorana nawe. Byumvaga ko yagose ko yitaye kuri buri wese. Yakundaga abahanzi, nibwo ibintu byingenzi bye, byakunze abakoraga muri theatre, ukunda ikinamico. Yari umuntu wihariye muburyo bwose. Arabuze cyane.
- Ubwa mbere, nubwo wakinnye uruhare ruto mu rukurikirane rwo gukina rurerure "bashinzwe urukundo", wasohotse mu 2005, ugeze i Moscou. Noneho wahise utangira guhaguruka?
"Igihe nageraga i Moscou, nirukanye buri munsi kuri metero enye, kuko aho nakwirakwije amafoto, nahamagaye abantu bose, nagerageje guhambira ahantu runaka. Icyifuzo cya mbere kwari ukuntera kurya. Kandi uru ruhare rwabaye igice, kumunsi wambere nari ku rubura rwa podolin. (Aseka.) Ariko uhereye kubyo byatangiye kugura uburambe bwuruhererekane. Kuva mu 2007, imyaka ibiri yambere i Tabakcoque nari muri theatre byibuze, yasohoye minisitiri wa gatanu. Kandi ikintu cya mbere kibukwa cyane cyangwa gito muri cinema ni "yalta 45". Kuri njye, byari inshingano zihuse, nkorana na Masters nka Tigran Keosay, umukoresha Igor Klebanov, n'abafatanyabikorwa beza.
- Nyuma yibikorwa byawe byambere, cyane cyane i Moscou, no muri theatre, no muri firime, ababyeyi bawe bakubwiye iki?
- Mama nta gake cyane asingizwa kandi ari mwiza cyane. Irashobora kuvuga iti: "Uraho neza, inyandiko ntiyibagiwe" cyangwa "wakumvise". Ni ishimwe ryo hejuru, ryabujijwe kandi rirasenyutse.
- na papa, nk'umuntu w'umuntu w'umuntu, utanga ku guhimbaza?
- Papa numuntu wububiko bwa tekiniki, injeniyeri, no kuba yarakoze mu rwego rw'umuco ni ugutwi kwe. Ni igitabo cyitanga kandi ntikibwira ko kidafite ikinamico. Kimwe na Mama, umuryango wacu wose ni abantu basenga ikinamiro muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose, nubuvanganzo, wenda uretse njye mubana. (Kumwenyura.) Nahatiwe gusoma. Ariko papa na we arabumburwa cyane, ntitwateye gusenyuka mu guhimbaza. Kandi umugore wanjye Katya ni abareba banza, ariko ntaranfata. Turagerageza byose
Gusuzuma neza akazi kanjye.
- Kandi ntiwigeze ushaka gushimwa cyane?
- Umuntu udashaka ko asingiza, birashoboka ko yapfuye. N'ubundi kandi, "ijambo ryiza n'injangwe ni ryiza." Ariko ndabikunze rwose mumuryango wacu, nabujije ibyiyumvo byacu, ntabwo bikwemerera kuruhuka. (Kumwenyura.)