Ni ryari wafashe intwaro?
Pavel Gusev: "Nari mfite imyaka cumi n'itandatu. Hamwe n'umwe mu bavandimwe, nagiye guhiga - ntagifite uburenganzira ku ntwaro yanjye. Ariko nemerewe kurasa inpubyi. Mubisanzwe, nabuze, ariko imbunda yunvikana. Nibwo buryo busanzwe bwa sovied "bulka" - hari byinshi muribi ".
Ni ayahe marangamutima umuntu iyo afata umutiba bwa mbere?
Gusev: "Gusobanukirwa ko" uburebure "bw'amahirwe yawe biriyongera ku isasu. Kandi muri rusange, kumva ko ufashe mumaboko yawe bisa nkaho ari icyuma gihujwe nigiti, ahubwo gihita kigutandukanya nabandi bantu. Urasa naho winjira mu bice bishya. "
Kandi igihe ubushake bwo gukusanya icyegeranyo cyawe bwite?
Gusev: "Nta tekerezaga. Noneho ubu hariho. Ntabwo nishora mu gukusanya intwaro mu buryo abakumbirwa babimenyeshwa umwuga: bashishikajwe n'imbuti za kera, bahitamo mukirandi cyangwa ba nyirabyo. Kurugero, imbunda zumuryango wibwami, imbunda ya Stalin cyangwa abahoze muri Politiki ... Imvugo nkiyo ni akazi keza, imiti yihariye cyangwa ibishushanyo bishimishije, ariko akenshi ntibishoboka kurasa ikintu. Kandi nkomeza imbunda nsaba rwose guhiga. "
"Nibura rimwe mu mezi atatu intwaro igomba kugenzurwa, isuku kandi ihishe. Mubisanzwe, ndabikora njye ubwanjye. " Ifoto: Vladimir Chistyakov.
None se kuki byose byatangiye?
Gusev: Ati: "Naguze imbunda yanjye ya mbere nyuma yuburyo bwa geologiya yumwaka mu 1968, aho yinjije kuringaniza magana abiri na mirongo itanu - mugihe amafaranga menshi. Narose kubona ikintu kidasanzwe. No mu bubiko bwa Komisiyo, aho imbunda zakoreshejwe zagurishijwe, nabonye icyo nshaka - cumi na kabiri wa Caliber Winchester yo mu 1897. Icyitegererezo kirashaje cyane, ariko ahubwo cyizewe ukurikije icyo gihe. Nishimiye cyane iyi nkongo, byamperekeje mu myaka mirongo. "
Ni bangahe "ibice byintambara" muri Arsenal yawe?
Gusev: "Ntekereza kuri makumyabiri."
Vuga ku bishimishije cyane.
Gusev: Ati: "Hano harashimishije cyane, hariho abakundwa cyane. Igihe kimwe naguze ibigo bya Holland & Holland byubahwa cyane ku isi, iki ni ikirango cy'Ubwongereza, gitanga imirimo idasanzwe y'urureto rukomeye. Noneho, mfite amahirwe yo kugura llland lyland & Holland Caliber milimetero ndwi Remington. Njye mbona, kalibre nziza yo guhiga bukabije. Mfata iyi karune mubyukuri kuri bose guhiga, yagendaga akarengane n'amazi. Ntabwo atandukanye na we. "
Ifoto: Anton Zuravkov.
Byari nkintwaro yo kukuzana?
Gusev:
"Birashoboka ko atari byo. Ni uko disiki yanjye ya mbere - iracyari ishaje cyane, igihe kirenze, ibisobanuro bimwe byarangira. Byongeye kandi, iyo ukoresheje akato kashimangiwe (bisabwa, urugero, guhiga ingagi), yatangiye kwitwara neza. Duhereye ku mbaraga za karikarizo, Mechanism yagenze, Tevier ntabwo yatangaje. Kubwibyo, amaherezo nabyanze, none birabitswe nkimurikagurisha ryitabi. "Ufite impano zishimishije?
Gusev: "Muri ibyo, birashoboka cyane ko bishimishije - kurya bibiri bishimishije hamwe n'uwahoze ari guverineri w'ikirere cya Moscou Anatoly Taatoly Tazhlov yampaye mu ntangiriro ya mirongo itangira. Nkuko mbizi, iyi imbuzi zakozwe kuri Boris Yeltsin, Yeltsin yarabyaye ko bigoye, na we na we. "
Imbunda zakozwe kuri boris Yeltsin yahaye Gusev Aatoly Trenzlov. Ifoto: Anton Zuravkov.
Icyegeranyo cyawe birashoboka ko gisaba kwitabwaho bidasanzwe. Ni nde ukora?
Gusev: "Nyir'ubwite ubwayo arashobora kwita ku ntwaro, bitewe n'inshuro zo gukoresha. Nibura rimwe mu mezi atatu, intwaro zigomba kugenzurwa, zifite isuku kandi zihiga. Kandi mubisanzwe, ndabikora kubwanjye - nyuma yuko buri kurasa. Irabikwa, ukurikije ibisabwa byemewe, mu ibyuma byihariye. Hamwe na code ijyanye no gufunga no mubyumba bitandukanye bifite impuruza. "
Ukunda gusa imbunda cyangwa hari izindi mico yo guhiga?
Gusev: "Mfite icyegeranyo kinini cyo guhiga ibyuma, muri byo impano nyinshi. Kandi na none hariho abakunzi benshi. Bamwe nkoresha urugendo rurerure - kuri Afrika, kurugero, abandi - kubuhiga bwuburusiya, kumusozi - icya gatatu. Hariho ingendo zegeranywa gusa, zirahenze cyane kandi zibitswe gusa nkibisobanuro. Mfite kandi kimwe mu byiza mu Burusiya bwo mu Burusiya byegeranyo byo guhiga ibitabo, natangiye guterana kwa cumi na bitanu. Mfite ibitabo n'ibinyamakuru hafi ya byose byasohotse mugihugu cyacu, ibihumbi byabo nibisomero rusange. Byongeye kuri ibi - umubare munini wibiranga guhiga ubuto butandukanye: statutets ya kera, gushushanya, ibishusho. Ibikoresho byo mu nzu nyinshi bifitanye isano n'iyi ngingo, ndakusanya ubuzima bwanjye bwose. Nibyo, vuba aha biragoye gukusanya, kuko ibiciro na kera, kandi ku isoko ryo guhiga mu Burusiya biragaragara. "
"Iyo ufashe intwaro mu biganza byawe, ako kanya byatuma utandukana nabandi." Ifoto: Anton Zuravkov.
Kandi kopi yihenze cyane mu cyegeranyo cyawe?
Gusev: "Sinshobora kumuhamagara - kubera ko nta mafaranga ahwanye na njye. Ndi ingenzi kuruta agaciro k'ikintu runaka. Kurugero, mfite umutwe uhiga, ugizwe nimbonerano ruzengurutse n'intebe esheshatu, nimpano kuri Leonid ilyich Brezhnev ku isabukuru ye. Ibi byose bikorwa na phahsky shobuja, abiyandikishije bose - hamwe namazina yabanditsi, akazi katangaje - guhinduka, gushushanya. Uyu ni umurimo wihariye wubuhanzi, ntamuntu numwe warekuye ameza. Ntabwo ariho. Vuga rero, kubyo nigeze kubigura, gusa ibicucu. Kandi kimwe mubitabo byingenzi (bifatwa nk'isaro mu bwoko bwacyo) - "Guhiga Tsar", Umubumbe une. Ibishushanyo kuri ibi bitabo byahoze ari abahanzi bazwi nka Renin, Samokish. Ntabwo rero sinaguze gusa "guhiga kwumwami" ubwanjye, nashoboye gushaka no gushushanya ibishushanyo, ibyo urabona, birashimishije cyane. Kandi nk'urugero, hashize imyaka makumyabiri, nampaye amasaha menshi ahiga ku rukuta, bishoboka cyane ko abakozi b'Abadage, igikombe. Kandi ukwezi gushize ngiye kuri Petero - ndareba, mu iduka rya kera riramanikwa. Ntabwo nagiye gusara kandi mubisanzwe ndabigura. Noneho ubu mfite kopi ya kopi yaya masaha, ngira ngo gusa ntunze bike. Buri somo mu cyegeranyo cyanjye gifite inkuru ndende kandi zishimishije, babakoraho mu gihe baturutse. Bafite igiciro? Sinzi nizo zishobora kugura ubu. Ntekereza cyane nkuko mpamagaye. Ariko ntabwo ngiye kubigurisha. "
Gukwirakwiza neza ni ikintu cyihariye cyamurikabubije. Ifoto: Anton Zuravkov.
Ni ibihe byiyumvo bigarurira ubutunzi nk'ubwo?
Gusev:
"Ndashobora kuvuga ikintu kimwe: Mfata ikintu buri munsi, cyangwa gukoraho, cyangwa nasomye, cyangwa kwiga. Nfite, nk'urugero, igikombe cyiza cyane-mugi wa club yo guhiga mu Budage, hari amazina yabantu benshi bazwi, abagize uyu muryango w'Abadage, bavuga ko ibikombe byabo. Biroroshye guhitamo gutunga ikintu nkicyo! Ahari kumuntu ntacyo bivuze, ariko kuri njye - uburambe butarondoreka. Aho ndi hose - ahantu hose njya mumaduka, amaduka ya kera arabaza: Ufite iki ku nsanganyamatsiko yo guhiga? Niba mbona ikintu gishimishije, ntangira kumvikana, ndagerageza kuyigura, ariko hariho ibiciro byagutse. Noneho ndahaguruka ndabyibuka mfite akababaro. "Nigute hafi yo kwishimisha? Shushanya inyungu zawe?
Gusev: "Babona ibi bintu buri munsi. Ntabwo byari kuvuga ko basimbuka kandi bashima, gusa uba muri uku mubwiza, mubishushanyo n'ibishusho, umuringa. Abavandimwe n'inshuti bose bazi ishyaka ryanjye. Kandi iyo mfite amatariki yingenzi, ntamuntu ufite ingorane muguhitamo impano. Ntacyo bitwaye - arakundwa cyangwa ntabwo, utuntu hose cyangwa fithilka, bifitanye isano no guhiga, bimpa umunezero. "
Ekaterina Shatnik