Elena rhyalalkaya ni dynamologiste na psychotherapiste bafite uburambe. Umaze imyaka 23 atanga inama yinyenyeri muri sphere ya hafi - inzozi zabo. Vuba aha, Elena yabaye umujyanama ukurikirana "inzozi", yari ishingiye ku nzozi nyinshi z'umukiriya we Anna Plenneva yavuye mu itsinda rya Vintage. Elena yishimiye abasomyi mu mwuga we.
"Elena, ni iki gishobora kubwira umuntu muri rusange?"
- Niba inzozi zo kurota mubuzima, mubisanzwe ni ukubuza amahirwe yabuze. Niba ari inzozi muburyo bwo gutanga imbaraga, noneho ibisobanuro byabo bifitanye isano nubushobozi buzaza, cyangwa niki kitubuza cyangwa gifasha muri iki gihe. Inzozi zirasangiye, bahora batuvugisha binyuze mumashusho amwe kandi burigihe (ndetse na nijoro) bidufasha. Ikindi kintu ni uko umuntu yitondera amakuru nkaya.
- Urashobora kumenya psycho-amarangamutima yumuntu? Umwuka we, sobanura ibibera mubuzima bwe?
- neza. Inzozi zamamaza amakuru kubyerekeye amarangamutima yacu yihebye, ubwoba. Kurugero: inyenyeri izwi cyane iri hejuru yicyubahiro, ariko inzozi ze zizagaragaza ibipimo byegeranijwe, ubuzima bwegereye kwiheba. Niba utitaye kuri ibyo ku gihe, birashobora kubaho ku buryo budasubirwaho - gusenyuka amarangamutima, gukomera ku mibereho myiza, imyitwarire idahagije. Dynamologue ifasha kuvanaho impagarara zo mumitekerereze hamwe na psychotherapi.
- Nibyo, akazi kawe kari hafi yumurimo wumuganga cyangwa psychotherapiste cyangwa psychotherapiste, aho kuvuga, kuvuga, psychics?
- neza. Psychologiya, psychotherapy ni siyanse, hamwe nubuhanga bwibanze bwa siyansi. Ni iki dukorana natwe, hamwe na psyche Forcenekal na psychics? Ntabwo bizwi numuntu ... kandi ibitari byiza - biteje akaga.
Inzozi nyinshi zashizeho ishingiro rya "Inzozi"
- Gusobanura gute? Aya mashusho ahora asobanura cyangwa kenshi muri kenshi iyi ni urutonde rwibimenyetso bimwe mubisobanuro, ntacyo bitwaye?
- Agaciro gafite amashusho yose ahari mu nzozi. Nzagabana uburyo bumwe buto bwo gukwirakwiza inzozi, byitwa "uburyo bwo kwa gestal -". Nanjye ubwanjye ndagukoresha, ariko biroroshye kandi byoroshye kubantu basanzwe bagerageza gusobanura ibitotsi byabo. Rero, ibisobanuro ni ibi bikurikira: Uribuka inyuguti zose zisinziriye (uhuza kandi zigerageza kwiyumvisha aho iki kimenyetso no gusesengura bisobanura iki ko ashaka kukubwira uko ashaka kukubwira ukoresheje isura ye , imyitwarire. Kurugero, imbunda ikunze kurota umwe kubakiriya banjye, yigaragaje muri iyi shusho kandi yakiriye amakuru atunguranye: biragaragara ko yaguze umuhungu muto pistolet, bityo umuhungu akinisha kwikinisha . Mubyukuri, muriki gihe, ahindukirira.
- Kandi ni ubuhe bufasha bwawe, urashobora guhanura ikintu cyo gusinzira, gukumira, gukumira ikintu?
- Mbere ya byose, ndabifata kuryama muburyo bufite intego, ntabwo ari amarangamutima. Mugihe abakiriya, kubinyuranye, gutunganya amarangamutima, gutinya. Binyuze mu nzozi, ndavugana n'umukiriya utaziguye, umuntu ubwe ntashobora kubikora neza, amarangamutima na psychologiya bibangamira ibi. Inzozi zikunze kutubwira ibyerekeye indwara zishobora kubaho ndetse ni ikibi, kirimo kuturwanya. Ikigaragara ni uko ubushishozi atari ubumaji, iki ni umusaruro wa psyche yacu. Umuntu ntanuwe abona ibintu byose bibaho hirya no hino, kandi birarenze ayo makuru abategetsi bacu bambumi basoma. Hanyuma, mu nzozi, avugana natwe kubyo twakundaga, ntiyabibonye, gutsindishirizwa, gutesha agaciro ...
- Nigute wakoraga murukurikirane "inzozi"?
Ati: "Nishimiye cyane ko nashoboye gukora mu mushinga ukomeye, kuko ubutumwa bwanjye muri rusange bwagombaga guhindura ibibera duhereye kuri siyansi. Twashatse gutanga amahirwe yo kwegera amabanga y'ibanga, tukasobanura ingaruka zabo ku mibereho yacu no kuva mu myumvire y'inzozi z '"ibihimbano by'Abafilisitiya." Inzozi nukuri birahujwe cyane kuruta uko bisa nkikirema, ariko gusobanura inzozi rimwe na rimwe bigira ingaruka kumuntu kurenza inzozi ubwazo.
- Ni ibihe bitabo wize? Ni uzwi cyane "Inzozi zo mu mutwe" wa Sigmund Freud yakoreshejwe mu kazi kawe?
- "Psychologiya yinzozi" Freud akeneye gusoma buri mutezimbere ya psychologue, iyi ni classique. Ariko Freud ifite ibikoresho byinshi kubyerekeye inzozi zitari iyo. Birakenewe kandi gusoma ibintu byose bihari kubyerekeye inzozi ziva K.-g. Junga, kuva muri abo gihe - A. Megetti. Kugirango dusobanukirwe gusobanura inzozi, birakenewe kwiga ibisebe nkigitekerezo cya siyansi, kandi ntabwo ari ugusobanura nyirakuru-umupfumu, ibyo afata "kuva ku gisenge."
- Nkumuhanga, mbwira igihe cyiza cyo gusinzira?
- Inzozi kumuntu kurabeshya ijoro ryose, ibyiciro bikora bisimburwa na pasiporo, ariko twibuka bamwe murimwe muri rusange, nkitegeko rimwe na rimwe, nkiribukwe, icyingenzi, cyingenzi, muri make. Duhereye ku buvuzi muri rusange, igihe cyiza cyo kuryama kuva 22.00 kugeza 5 AM.
Somnologiste Elena Rhyalsky avuga ko ubutumwa bwe muri rusange bwari uguhindura uko ibintu bimeze
- Ni izihe mvura?
- Ijoro ryijoro akenshi ryerekeza kumuburo, ariko ntabwo arimwe urota. Umuntu arashobora kurota ko ari ibicucu, kandi afite ibibazo hamwe nibihaha. Cyangwa arota ko atakaza ikintu gikomeye cyane, kandi mubyukuri yatewe no kubeshya, ariko uburiganya buri muyindi ndege. Nanone inzozi zishobora kurota niba umuntu ananiwe cyane cyangwa afite amarangamutima akomeye, kandi ni ngombwa kuruhuka.
- Gusinzira biracyari ikintu cyimbitse. Ese kwiringira umukiriya muri Dynolog? N'ubundi kandi, rimwe na rimwe ibintu nk'ibi inzozi - dufite isoni zo kubwira umuntu.
- Icyizere kimwe kuri psychotherapiste. Inzobere mubyo nategetse bikenera kumenya byose cyangwa ntakintu na kimwe. Amakuru yose asanzwe arashobora kubamo ubwabyo urufunguzo rwabuze kugirango usobanure neza.
- Ni kangahe ushobora gusaba ubufasha gushidikanya?
- Kuri dynamologue, urashobora kubyifatamo kenshi, ariko ntabwo byumvikana. Umugabo amaze gukorana na Dynamologue, buhoro buhoro yiga kumva inzozi ze, amashusho ye. Kugera no gukora ikintu, tureka mubyukuri mubimenyetso, kandi ikibazo nticyakemutse. Tugomba kubona gukora inzozi - ntibishobora gusinya amasezerano mashya, cyangwa kwiga ibyangombwa, cyangwa kujya kwa muganga, cyangwa kwitondera imyitwarire yuwo ukunda. Nk'ubutegetsi, ibyo tutabona hamwe no gusuzuma hafi bishobora kugaragara no gukumirwa. Kurugero, vuba aha "habonetse" ubutumwa bw'agateganyo - bwabaye umuhungu w'umukiriya wanjye yiba amafaranga.
- Muri rusange, mbega ukuntu byashoboka gushidikanya? Cyangwa birashimishije cyane?
- Birashimishije cyane. Ntutinye siyanse, wasobanuwe, wunvikana. Birakenewe gutinya kutumvikana: amarozi, ubupfumu hamwe na mysticism.