Natalia, aho no mu bihe bihe ndetse ni mu buhe buryo inama yawe itazibagirana n'umuntu w'ingenzi, nk'uko Mikhail Mikhaiaich yabaye?
Natalia Surova: "Hari hashize imyaka 20, ku gufungura club ya Odessa. Bisanzwe, mu mujyi wacu. Misha yatumiwe aho umuyobozi w'ikipe, nanjye - nk'ikawa ivangura. Nari mfite imyaka makumyabiri nane, kandi narebye ibitangaje: imyenda mito yumukara, agatsinsino gake, ikote ritukura, umusatsi, umusatsi
Amagambo ya kera rero yibukwa: "Ubwa mbere, umubiri ukurura, kandi usanzwe ugenzura" ...
Natalia: "Rwose! Utwara murugo hanyuma ukareba ibyo wabonye. Amahirwe - Smart! Twebwe mubyukuri kuri iyi gahunda ibintu byose byateye imbere. Amaze kumuhirika, aduhamagarira inshuti baduhamagaye tumenye ko ibintu byose byari bimwe kuri bo: ubwonko ndetse n'ubwonko bwabo, n'imiterere y'abagore babo b'ejo hazaza barebye nyuma. Nkuko rero imyitozo yerekana, umugabo ntashobora kumva ikintu cyose mumugore mugihe arimo akora akazi. Ariko i wongeyeho byari bikomeje kwisukurwa cyane nibintu byose, ibinyabusa, nabyo, birashoboka ko bitasohotse. Misha afite, nukuvuga, akazi keza kuriyi ngingo. Ndibuka kuva hariya: "Niba uretse umugore mu nzu ukamubona hariya asanzwe afite isuku ya vacuum rero, ntazasiga ahantu hose." Nibyo rwose. Kuva uwo munsi, ntabwo twatandukanye, nubwo ntamuntu numwe utekereza igihe ubuzima bwacu buhumanya buzaba. Muri rusange, igitekerezo cyo gushyingirwa nticyavutse. Twari twaramutse tunezerewe cyane kandi bikabije. Nari muto, ibihe byinshi ntibyabyumva, ariko byaje kumuntu usanzwe hamwe nubuzima bwa nyuma. Mishe yari afite imyaka mirongo itanu n'itandatu. Nibyo, itandukaniro kumyaka ntiryatandukanije - sinigeze mbona ko ashishikaye cyane, ukomoka ku buzima ... abantu babyitwayemo mu buryo butandukanye, bareba ku ruhande. "
Mbere yo gushakisha Zhvanetsky, iherezo ryumugore wawe ryagenze neza?
Natalia: "Kurenza. Kuva ku myaka cumi n'irindwi, nabaga mu icumbi nta ngaruka, nize, twabonye umwuga w'isaha hydrolog, yakoraga mu kigo cy'Umushinga, ahubwo ni mu ntangiriro yo kuvugurura, mbona igikoresho cy'imyambaro kuri MIME ntoya Ikinamico, aho Luslavsky yari umuyobozi mukuru. Mu bafana banjye, Zhvanetsky aragaragara, kandi kugereranya byose byari i Mishina gusa. By the way, byagaragaye ko atari bagenzi bacu gusa, kandi mubyukuri abaturanyi: Ababyeyi banjye babaga kumuhanda wa Bogdan Khmelnitsky kuri sinema yababyeyi, na Zhvanetsky hafi ya Sinema, na ZHvanetsky, kuri Starzavoffanran. Nyogokuru yaje i Mishina papa - umuganga, bityo yibuka ko azi neza ko yizeye ko umugabo wanjye ari umuganga wanjye umucungamuganga. Yavuze ati: "Muganga Zhvanetsky azi byose!"
Odessa Misha Zhvanetsky yavukiye mumuryango wabaganga. Hamwe na Papa Emmanuil Moiseevich na Mama Rasa Yakovlevna. Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Mikhail Zhvanetsky.
Icyo gihe, wari usanzwe ufite ishusho yuwo bashakanye? Haba hari uduce duhurira hamwe nicyiza?
Natalia: "Oya, hari ukuntu batekerezaga. Ikintu cyonyine cyakundaga abana nakundaga abanditsi babiri. Ubwa mbere, Gerald Darrell, wasobanuye ibitekerezo n'ubuzima bw'inyamaswa. Nakunze iherezo rye. Icya kabiri, ernest hemingsway. Ibitabo bye byatangajwe nka biography. Gusa umubare w'abagore batera ubwoba. "
Mubibazo byawe, ibintu byose byari bimeze. Hano ntabwo watinye?
Natalia: "Kandi sinigeze tekereza no ku rugero rw'ubuzima bwe bwite. Muri kiriya gihe, nta kibazo cyagize, ntabwo nigeze ubajije ikibazo, kuko ntashobora kunshinja ko ashobora kumbabaza. Kuri Mishino hafi ya bimwe byahise byemerwa bitangira kurinda amaruwe atandukanye. Birashoboka, bamaze kurambirwa urukundo rwe rudashira kandi bashaka ko atugura. Hashize amateka ye, inshuti zose zaracecetse nkabasabira. Byasaga na spraul. Byinshi ku buryo burambuye, namenye nyuma nyuma mugihe agatsiko k "gowires" kagaragara.
Guhangana nka Zhvanetsky yabeshye?
Natalia: "Yashakaga. Kubijyanye nanjye no gutanga. Ahantu mu mezi atandatu, birashoboka ko byabaye. Misha yampaye ikote ryubwoya, kurugero. Iya mbere yakomokaga cyane icyo gihe intungamubiri, hanyuma mvuye muri Mnk ... ariko bari abasovu ... ariko bari abasovu nkabo, bamaze kumererwa, kandi igihe bamwe bamfashaga kwiyambura, benshi baguye mu mwenda ugororotse hamwe n'ubwoya. "
Vuba aha, Mikhail Mikhaich yavuze ko hari abagore bakundana, gukiza kwe, kandi ntibakibitaho uburyo iyi mpano icyo aricyo, nkuko asa. Njye mbona ari njye yashakaga kuvuga ...
Natalia: "Birashoboka cyane. Nkuko umuntu afite ubwenge, arashaka igisubizo kubibazo nkuko dufite umuryango ukomeye, nkuko tubayeho. Ahari abandi bashakanye ntibanabitekerezaho, ariko ibi ntabwo aribwo buryo bwacu. Umugabo ariza byukuri, abona ibintu kumpande zose, ugereranije. Kandi, birasobanutse, burigihe usanga amagambo amwe ... nta gushidikanya, impano yamfashe muri Misha. Ariko ntabwo gusa. Muri rusange, ntibishoboka gusobanura, kubyo ukunda, kugirango wubake umugabo wawe mubice. Iyi ngingo irashobora kuvugwa bitagira iherezo. Noneho, baravuga bati, urukundo rukize neza. Kandi ukureho kuri uyu mukimbi wa Bwana kuruhande rwamafaranga, ntakintu nakindi kizagumaho. Ibyingenzi biracyazunguruka ku miterere. Kandi ubeho ufite umuntu ufite impano - muburyo bumwe nkubusanzwe. Nibyo bishimishije. Kubera ko ubwonko butondekwa muburyo budasanzwe, ikinyabiziga gihoraho ... Hariho uruhande rumwe hamwe nimbaraga zitaboneka kumuntu usanzwe. "
Noneho, umunsi wicyumweru uranyuraga nta gipimo?
Natalia: "Bibaho nkibisanzwe. Rimwe na rimwe, ndetse n'ubunebwe cyane, mu rwego rw'akazi Misha yamenyereye gukora, aryamye mu buriri. Kandi niyeguriye iki gihe mubucuruzi bwanjye kandi sinzigera ntegereza umugabo wanjye kunshaka. Buri gihe hariho murugo ikintu cyo gukora: soma, genda winyubako ya siporo, kurugero. Dufite umubare munini wa kwigana - ni ukunda umugabo we. Nakundaga kunsanga uko batasabwaga, ariko ubu ndabona ko bimaze kuba ngombwa, kandi nanone ureba uwo mwashakanye. MYSHA MONITERS: Nibura amara isaha imwe muri salle, ahitamo ibiryo byiza ... Yego, akunda impumuro yamavuta, ariko akabemerera gake. Nzi niba nazanye ikintu nkicyo, hazabaho urukozasoni. (Kumwenyura.) Guswera, ibinure biracyahari mubirimo. Nubwo iyi mbogamizi rimwe na rimwe, umwuka urenga. Moto ye y'imbere, ishyaka ry'ubuzima ntirigeze rirota. Igaragaza no mubuzima bwa buri munsi. Ifite amatsiko nkaya yo kubyara: Ni izihe nyungu ziyi modoka yihariye, kandi ni ubuhe busya bwinyama bwamaseke mashya cyangwa TV, firigo, amasahani? Tugomba kugenda byihutirwa no kugura ibi byose muri byinshi. Bitabara muri byose. Ariko ibi ntibisobanura ko akunda kwishora mubukungu, atari na gato. Ariko birakenewe kumenya byose kuriyi ngingo cyangwa icyo kintu. Hanyuma, Misha akunda guhumuriza kandi wemera ko icyumba cyo kwerekana umuco kitagomba kuba murugo. Mu biro bye byanga akajagari ko guhanga, ibitabo biratatanye, igikombe gishobora guhagarara ahantu hose, TV - kumanika ku idirishya mu gikoni (byoroshye cyane). Muri icyo gihe, yegeranijwe: T-Shirts, ipantaro, amasogisi - inkumi zose zifite ikirundo. Iri ni ryo tegeko rye, ngerageza kubungabunga. "
Umuhanzi hamwe n'umugore we Nataliya n'Umuhungu wa miint mu biruhuko mu Butaliyani. Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Mikhail Zhvanetsky.
Zhvanetsky yemeye ko yabaga mu busore bwe, yakoraga ku cyambu, yagendanaga na pop-bay-bay, yagumye hamwe na bagenzi ba Kerone, maze aramwegera nyuma mirongo itandatu. Ikigaragara ni uko atari "ibintu" na byo, kubera ko avuga ko amafaranga yinjiza atangaje, sibyo?
Natalia: "Yego. Ariko umurimo wo mucyaro wamuhaye uburambe butagereranywa, yakoresheje imyaka myinshi. Hanyuma, muri kiriya gihe, benshi bakeneye kandi babayeho cyane. Igihe namugeraho, twabanaga na dacha muri Dachas muri Odessa, hamwe n'umugambi muto. Yari afite kandi "Mercedes," yishimiye cyane. Kandi i Moscou tugatura mucyumba kimwe ku muhanda wumwamikazi. Nabonye "kwinezeza" byose. Ni ukuvuga, Misha ntabwo ari umuntu winjiza amafaranga. Arimo akora ibyo akunda, kandi kubera ko ibi bizana yinjiza. Njye, nk'umugore, uko bisanzwe, washakaga guhora wambare neza, hindura ibintu mu nzu kandi, byaragaragaye, byagaragaye ko bishimiye kubona ubuzima runaka. Noneho nshimishijwe nuko dufite inzu iri hagati yumuhungu gusa, kuko Misha idashobora gusinzira muri megapolis yunamye, kandi duhora tuba inzu yigihugu mu nkengero. Ariko ibyo dukunda ni inzu yuburomo muri Odessa, ku nyanja. Haba murugo twubatswe tutabifashijwemo nabashinzwe kubangamitsi, abantu bose bahawe kubitsa abubatsi, kandi bazirikana ibyifuzo byacu. Birababaje kuba muri Odessa Noneho tubayeho gukikijwe na disikuru: niba umunsi ukiri guceceka, nimugoroba ya HT ikomeye. "
Uratangaza umugore wubucuruzi nyine. Ufite amazu nimiryango ihagije, ntabwo byasenyutse kugirango ufungure ubucuruzi bwawe?
Natalia: "Yego, imbaraga n'ibyifuzo, nabaga bihagije. Rimwe na rimwe nkora ikintu gito muri Odessa, ariko ni ko ... ukuri nuko umugabo adashobora kwihanganira iyo nkumusigiye igihe kirekire. Akeneye kumva ko ndi hafi, ahantu munzu, cyangwa hafi ya murugendo. Kandi mbaho ubuzima bwa Misha. Kandi nhuza isano hagati yubuzima na Misha. Nk'umusemuzi. Tujya mu baganga hamwe, sinshobora guhamagara abapompa, n'ibindi. "
Wagize ubukwe bworoheje? Ntabwo nanditse ahantu kuri we.
Natalia: "Ntabwo yari. Misha mpura kubana, hanyuma yibaruka umwana igihe Misha yifuzaga, maze umuhungu amaze kugenda, atangira kubaza impamvu tutari ku mugaragaro ko tutari ku mugaragaro. Kuri we, byaje kuba ingenzi, ntiyashakaga kuba nkaho bitemewe, byarakaje kubera impamvu runaka, yashakaga ko Mama ari izina rya Papa. Tumaze igihe kinini duhagarika kubitekerezaho, ariko umukono, kandi nta minsi mizize muri iki gihe. Byabaye hashize imyaka itatu. By the way, ntabwo nafashe izina ryanyuma Zhvanetsky. (Kumwenyura.) Nubwo nashyingiwe, birashoboka, hanyuma nkabaho mubuzima bwanjye bwose kandi sinigeze nshyingiranwa, ni ibicucu, nabyo, hari ibicucu,
Nzi ko umuhungu wawe w'imyaka cumi n'irindwi Dmitry yinjiye mu kigo uyu mwaka. Ni irihe shami ryatoranijwe?
Natalia: "Psychologiya. Ni amahitamo ye. Yatugiriye inama yerekeye umwihariko, kubera ko agishidikanyaga. Twayirukanye kubizamini byose byerekana ibidahuye. Twe ubwacu, nkababyeyi, twabonye umuganga we. Kandi inshuti yacu Dima Pushkar, kubaga, ndetse itanga igitekerezo MITA kujya kubashingira - reba mubikorwa, ni ikihe kintu kibikeneye. Mitya yabanje kwishimira. Ariko nyuma yaje guhindura ibitekerezo. Kuva kuri papa yafashe impano ya Narkrator, wongeyeho icyifuzo runaka cyo gusesengura ... Nizere ko azahinduka psychologiste yubwenge. Nibura aratuje, arushaho kuba twembi. Kuri byose birambuye, bisobanurwa kwimibanire, bivuga filozofiya. Mu mizo ya mbere, nagerageje gutabara, guhangana n'uwukwiriye, kandi ubwo namenyaga ko ntacyo bimaze, batangira kutabogama. "
"Noneho sinarangije ku buryo umwana wanjye abwiye bass, yabonye metero mirongo cyenda, kandi ingano y'inkweto ifite mirongo ine na gatanu." Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Mikhail Zhvanetsky.
Iyi nkuru irazwi ko iyo nyina w'umusore Mikhail Mikhaiavich yamusanze mu rugo hamwe n'umukobwa (ni bwo bwarambabaje kandi ararakara. Amaze kugira iminsi ibiri yo kumushakisha mu mujyi. Nigute ukora inshuti z'abakobwa ima?
Natalia: "Ntabwo yari azi umuntu uwo ari we wese. Abakobwa, uko bigaragara, niko tujya munzu, burigihe mbere yububabare. Ntabwo nari niteguye guhungabana ubwoba. Nubwo umukobwa uri mu nzu yacu, ayobowe, aruta we ubwe azajya ahantu, ariko mu gihe nabwira inshuti zanjye abwira Basasi, ariko mu gihe namaze metero mirongo cyenda, ubunini bw'inkweto bufite mirongo ine -ibafashe, kandi vuba aha yari agituje cyane. Kutavuga ko agiye gukora tatouage. Nasabye gutegereza byibuze imyaka ibiri - nicuza mama. Arasa n'abantu bakuruye. Muri resitora, inkuru ihora izamuzanira, kandi barandeba bafite amakenga. " (Kumwenyura.)
Amatsiko ya Zhvanetsky Papa. Yagendanaga n'umwana muri pariki?
Natalia: "Sinshobora kwiyumvisha ishusho nk'iyi. Ndetse ndi kumwe nanjye gutya, kubera ukuboko, ntaho yagiye. Dufite ubundi buryo: Yiruka kubibazo bye, ndaguhuza. Hariho amateraniro, aho ngomba kubana na we, nkurikije protocole, yitwa. Hariho abandi aho nshaka kwitabira ... rimwe na rimwe, najyanye mitu muri sosiyete kugirango arebye papa. Rimwe na rimwe hari imanza. Noneho, mu ruzinduko muri Isiraheli, umuhungu wacu muto, uhagaze inyuma yinyuma, ahita ahitamo kujya kuri stage akamenyesha abumva. Yashoboye guhagarara. Noneho Misha yafashe Mitu kuri stage inshuro nyinshi, ariko, hamwe na salle yubusa, kugirango yerekane neza aho akora. Kandi gukura k'umuhungu yose byanyuze munsi y'ibyatsi: "Kureba indege za se." Mity yabagize uruhare rukomeye. Yamenye icyongereza mu gihe cy'ukwezi kumwe mu nkambi y'indimi za Londres, yize gukina na gitari na mwarimu, ariko papa ntiyamusimbuye byimazeyo, ahubwo yaranengwaga. Umugabo mfashijwe ni ishimwe ryimihane, nanjye mfite. Biragaragara ko Misha atagiye ku ishuri, ntabwo yagenzuye amasomo. Ndibuka, yarebaga ubwoba, nkuko twigishije imbonerahamwe yo kugwiza ... Urabona, hariho abantu bahitamo kuvugana gusa nabakuze gusa. Iyo misha nicyo. Ndetse we no gushonga kwacu, wakuriye mu maso ye, avuga cyane ko ari kumwe n'umuntu, kandi atari kumwe n'umwana we. "
Niba wemera interineti, noneho Zhvanetsky - Data Kinini ...
Natalia: "Gusa hari kimwe cya kabiri. Reka abo bana bose bazobe umutimanama wabo. Misha yari afite ubukwe buke bwo hakiri kare mubusore bwe. Ariko nyina w'umugore we Larisda ntiyasaga naho asezerana, kandi bagiye i Paris. Kandi rero yahoraga aba mu bwisanzure, umwe, abakobwa bakundana bose baranyuze, kandi ninde wagenzura ibizagenzura ... nta gushidikanya, kugirango uvuge ko nyirarume whvanetsky kuruta nyirarume wa Orarman. By the way, sitasiyo imwe ya radiyo izwi cyane yakoze ubushakashatsi: Ninde uturuka ku byamamare wifuza gukuramo urubyaro? Kandi Misha afata umwanya wa mbere! Umugabo amaze kubimenya, yakirwanaga nanjye, nagiye mu musazi, mbona ko atari ngo asubire mu muryango. (Amwenyura.) Ariko twaramubabariye. Nkuko mbizi, kuva abana nyabo Hariho umukobwa Lisa, afite nka mirongo itatu, ni umunyamategeko kandi aba i Moscou. Kuri njye mbona Misha ashaka kuvugana na we, ariko Lisa ubwe akeneye gushaka umubano, kandi ntategereze Data. Impamvu nuko abahanzi muri rusange bafite itumanaho rihagije, kandi nibyiza kutayategereza igihe bakwibutse, ariko gufata iyambere, hamagara, hamagara, hamagara kugirango usure, kugaburira amagambo meza kubyerekeye guhanga. Hariho kandi umuhungu w'imyaka makumyabiri n'ibiri, abana na nyina muri Amerika. Nzi ko ari umwana wari witeze. Asa na Misha. Ntekereza ko umugabo wanjye afasha uwo muryango, ariko ntabwo ngiye ibisobanuro, turakwiriye cyane. Nishimiye ko Misha avugana cyane abana be, kuba umugabo wiyubashye. Ibi ni ibicucu bito gusa byari neza: niba uwo bashakanye arimo gutandukanya abagore n'abana bose babanjirije, bazishima hamwe. Mubyukuri, azazana nawe nyuma yigihe runaka. Ndashaka rero kwifuriza abagore: kuba maso, reba ubuzima, reba uburyo umugabo asigaye ku bagore ko bagiye ... "
Umuntu, ni ay'amagambo "igitsina gore cyaganiriye mu myenda", ntigishobora kuba mwiza. Nigute wahanganye n'ishyari?
Natalia: "Ndi impunzi ku kimenyetso cya Zodiac, gishyushye cyane, byari ishyari rikomeye. Abagore bakunda amatwi, kandi Misha yari akikijwe n'abadamu muri urwo rwego. Kubuzima bwacu buhuriweho, nibuka igice kimwe gusa, ubwo twagendanaga hamwe, kandi twarokotse umukobwa mumajipo ya ultra-mini-mini-mini-mini, kandi misha yanjye irambuye muburyo burambuye. Kureba umuhanzi. Nyuma y'ibyumweru bibiri namwibutse. "Umuhanda wose uramwitegereza!" Umugabo yararakaye. Iyo niyo nkuru yonyine. Ntabwo yampaye impamvu. Buri gihe duterera itandukaniro mumyaka. Twaba urungano - birashoboka ko twumvaga. Nuko rero yashishikarijwe, akomeza ibitekerezo biri mu ijwi, abandi bagabo banjugunye. " (Kumwenyura.)
Nibyo, waraye hamwe kurenza kurera ababanjirije ... ntibishoboka ko bitewe nitandukaniro.
Natalia: "Biragoye guterana. Twembi tutigeze twemera ko dushobora kubana. Abagore babanje bifuzaga kubana na Misha, baraza, barashyirwaho, batura hafi cyane, kandi nashizeho kugirango igihe icyo ari cyo cyose nshobora kuzimira. Igihe kimwe yampagaritse, oya, kandi nihannye. Muri make, ntabwo natsimbaraye. Byarakajwe, kandi birakururwa. "
Ibiruhuko ukunda gukunda? Inshuti zawe murugo?
Natalia: "Misha akunda ibirori. Mbere, twatuteguye kenshi, none ntitufite umwanya - gahunda ni ikomeye. Ariko, byanze bikunze, inshuti zirasuye. Ahanini, aba ni baby'ubwongereza. Kutari umuryango. Kubari tuzwiho na yarmolniki. Oksana na Lenya - Biratangaje! Lenya ashobora kuba inshuti! Afasha abantu benshi. Margulix ni. Misha akunda Andrei Makarevich, Evgeny GriskoVets, Sergey Solovyov, ariko bafite abashyitsi badasanzwe. Ihame, muri Moscou ibintu byose bibaho kwiruka. Ntarengwa - isafuriya nini ya crayfish yatetse, abaturanyi babiri bo mu mudugudu wacu baratumiwe. Kandi iminsi mikuru nyayo, hamwe nimbonerahamwe yatanzwe kandi ifite amasahani y'ibicuruzwa byiza, ndahaguruka muri Odessa, aho tuguruka kuva muri Kamena kugeza mu Kwakira. Muri kiriya mezi niho umugabo akora yera he, ariko kandi afite umwanya wo kuruhuka. Mu myidagaduro, urashobora gusoma chekhov ukunda cyangwa ushimishije gusa ... ariko ni iki gishobora kumera nka stylist ye, byumwihariko, uko bigaragara. "
Muri Odesa yanditse kuri gahunda?
Natalia: "Yego. Asubira hejuru yikawa, arababara ... kandi niba urugo rutangiye kubaka, tukatwirengagiza (kuko kubura kwacu, bivuze ko ariho), bivuze ko inzira atari mibi. Kurakara umwanditsi, ibirego ntabwo ikintu kibaho - ikimenyetso cya mbere. Ariko nimugoroba, duhitamo guhumeka muri resitora dukunda: "Katran" kuri sitasiyo ya 16, ikorera amafi mashya, muri resitora y'inzoga muri Gorishada, kuri "Dacha", muri "Clara-Baru" ... Kandi muri wikendi, nk'ubutegetsi, tugiye kuri picnic kumujyi nta mazi angahe yo kuruhuka namazi ari isuku. Afite kandi umwanya wo gushimishwa n'ubusitani. Dukura amakara menshi, amapera, amapera, ibimera, ibiti bya pome. Ariko Misha yashimangiye inyanya, imyumbati n'ibiryo byose - twabiteye, ariko ugomba kwita cyane kuri iyi mico, nkuko byagenze neza kuri iyi mico, nkuko byagenze neza. Umugabo wanjye arota, kugirango undi muntu arye mu kigega, ariko hano namaze kurwanya. Kandi igihe cyizuba giteranira gusarura - muburyo bwose. Ku bijyanye n'akazi k'ubuvanganzo, Misha akusanya abantu bose mu ijoro rimwe ryo muri Nzeri, tugiye kuri Barza ku mujyi, aho ameza maremare atwikiriye, kubona igipande kinini cy'ibyandikishijwe intoki kandi ibintu byose birasomwa mu ruhame. Disikuru isanzwe irengana. Nuburyo gahunda nshya igaragara buri mwaka. "
"Radiyo imwe yakoze ubushakashatsi: Ninde wifuza gukora urubyaro mubyamamare? Umugabo yafashe umwanya wa mbere maze arajanjagurwa cyane. " Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Mikhail Zhvanetsky.
Odessa azwiho gusetsa bitabishaka. Amayobera yiki gice ni ayahe, he ugurisha na gatora muri Cafe rishobora kwishima?
Natalia: "Sinshaka kubabaza umuntu uwo ari we wese, ariko kubice byinshi bibaho hashingiwe ku mvugo itari yo, aho ururimi rw'ikirusiya, Ukraine, invange z'igiheburayo ... kandi rimwe na rimwe, ubushobozi budasanzwe, ubushobozi butemewe n'amategeko. By'umwihariko, zhvanetsky ibitekerezo bya paradoxique rwose, inguni yumwimerere, kandi itanga umusaruro. Avuga cyane kuri byose. Uzabishyira mu mperuka yapfuye, niba ubisabye urwenya. Ndetse nuburyo avuga, kubabaza, ibintu bibabaje ashyira kumeza, byanze bikunze, niba usoma. Igitangaza nuko iyo ubyumvise, burigihe ufungura kandi ijana ku ijana bihuye nibitekerezo byawe. "
Hari ukuntu Mikhail Mikhaiahich yavuze ko udafata neza akazi ke, ntukishimire buri segonda. Uyu munsi wakosowe?
Natalia: "Ntabwo bishoboka. Ntibishoboka kumubiri byishimira burundu no guhinda umushyitsi. Ndahuze cyane na fucepane, umwana, imbaga yihutirwa. Injangwe yacu, amaherezo. Ntabwo buri gihe buri gihe guhora ugana ku ruhare rw'ubanga urugo mu ruhare rw'umuvugizi w'umunyabwenge. Rimwe na rimwe ndavuga nti: "Kuri ubu ndakaga. Hano nzarangiza, noneho tuzavuga. " (Umwenyura.) Biragaragara ko mugihe cyo kuganira, ngomba kuba kurwego. Kandi iyo tugiye gusura nimugoroba, ngomba kuba iy'isi, idasanzwe, yambaye uburyohe. Mama nawe agomba kuba mwiza. N'umukobwa mu bidukikije byinshi. Ibi byose nibigize ubuzima bwanjye, ngomba guhuza. "
Zhvanetsky ntabwo yitaye kumatungo?
Natalia: "Ku nyamaswa muri rusange. Iyo ibibanza bigiye kuri TV bijyanye nuburyo ubuhungiro bwinyamanswa zitagira aho aba yaratwitswe, bibabaza imbwa, bizimya ako kanya, gucika intege. Guhiga Hates - Ntibyumva uburyo bwo kwica abadafite kirengera, bito na fluffy. Kandi injangwe yacu yinjangwe, nayo, Odessa, akunda. Nubwo Maurice yambuwe byuzuye ubumenyi ubwo aribwo bwose: ni umunebwe, agwa mu idirishya, azunguza intebe, azunguza igiti gusa, avuza induru n'umugongo we muri BlackBerry, bizirika ku bigega byose ... ariko Yitegereza amaso ye, amwumva, ufite nawe ukeneye kuvuga. Kandi Misha ahora ansiga: Birasa nkaho ari gusa cyangwa njye, ko injangwe yacu iracyumva byinshi. "
Mu myaka myinshi, Zhvanetsky igaragara muri gahunda yavuye mu nshingano za Andrei Maksov "mu gihugu", kandi, imanza zicira urubanza, abantu baramwizera. Ntiyigeze agira gahunda yo kujya ahantu hose imbaraga zo guhindura ikintu?
Natalia: "Misha afite isura. Kandi mubyukuri ntabwo abeshya, harimo no mu gitutu cyanjye. (Kumwenyura.) Nubwo hari ahantu hatagira ubwoba bwo kuvuga ukuri, bivuze uko byagenda kose. No kuri premiere y'ibikorwa byangiriye inshuti, niba adakunda ikintu, ntabwo acecetse. Kandi ntabwo yatutse, kandi ashimangira cyane, kandi biragaragara ko byose ari bibi. Nuburyo agenda ahantu hose aratenguha. Tumaze rero gutakaza kimwe cya kabiri cyabagenzi. Ariko kuri politiki, ntabwo ari umurwanyi. Ntabwo bizashobora kuvuga mu mpaka, kuko iyo iyo mpamvu uwo muhanganye amubwira mu ndwara, ko ari Umuyahudi, yari afite abagore benshi, Misha bazababazwa kandi bagende. Irinde, komeza inkoni ntushobore. Imbere ye hagomba kubaho umutekano runaka. Mubuzima ni njye. Politiki rero iramuhagararira. Ni umwanditsi, kandi mu mwanya we. "