Glafira tarkhanova na Alexey FADDEEV - Abashakanye beza cyane. Kureba no kureba umubano: ibihaha, ibihaha, aho hari ibitwenge byinshi n'ibirotwe, ntuzigera utekereza ko aba ari ababyeyi ... abana bane! Nta buremere bukabije, guhangayika, kurakara ndetse no gufatanwa. Nibyiza hamwe, hano uba urukundo nyarwo, aho abana atari inzitizi, ariko ibinyuranye gusa. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- Umaze gutsinda imyaka itandukanye itandukanye nabana. Ninde, mubitekerezo byawe, biragoye cyane?
Glafira: Kuri njye byoroshye - uruhinja, kuko ndimo kugenzura. Kandi ikintu kitoroshye, ndatekereza ko dufite imbere - imyaka yumuhungu umwe yamaze gutangira, mumyaka ibiri iri munsi, hanyuma kuri urwo rutonde. Ikintu ndumva ko ingimbi zabo zizaba benshi, kandi bagomba gukemura ibibazo byose hamwe, ubwoko bumwe bwa cube Rubik bugomba gukora. Kandi tuzaba hafi, inzira imwe cyangwa iyindi, turimo kwitegura ibi (twese), tumaze kuba dufite.
Alexei: Imfura, ndetse no mu biganiro na mama, yumva ko ategereje, arimo gutegura imitekerereze. Abana bose batandukanye cyane, kandi mumico, no mu ishusho yibitekerezo, kandi mu nyungu. Numuto (vuba aha ni imyaka ibiri), ariko, kugeza ubu biragoye gucira urubanza. Ariko tumaze kubona ko afite indi miterere. Kandi buriwese arengera inyungu ze, rimwe na rimwe ngomba kwangiza ibintu. Ndetse uhitemo ikarito kuri kimwe na kimwe, na gatatu, biragoye cyane.
Glafira: Ariko turabigisha kubaganisha.
Alexei: Mugihe bibaye gake. Umunsi mukuru rimwe na rimwe watangiye gutanga, arashobora gufata ipad cyangwa igitabo hanyuma ugende. Vuba aha, mugihe imizi yasuye ba sogokuru, hagati ibiri yarebye inka y'Abanyamerika y'Iburengerazuba. Ntabwo nari nizeye ko babikunda cyane, bishimiye film. Iyi ni inkuru y'abagabo izakomeye yukuntu abahungu bahoreye kubera imico nyamukuru yishe abambari. Ariko imfura, ngira ngo sinabishaka.
Glafira: Mu bihe by'amakimbirane, biroroshye kubarokora hafi y'ibyumba kugira ngo abantu bose bareba ibyo ashaka, ariko ugomba kubereka uburyo bwo kuganira. N'ubundi kandi, ibi birashobora kubaho mu nshuti, abo mukorana. Byinshi cyane, birababaje, byakemuwe binyuze mubibazo cyangwa ubwoba. Ntabwo buri gihe ari bibi, ariko umuntu agomba gutanga urumvika, amakimbirane ntabwo atanga umusaruro.
Imyambarire, Isabel garcia; Impeta n'imisatsi, byose - ibikoresho byububiko bwa Fedora
Ifoto: Alena Poloshin; Umufasha wa Phorapher: Dina Zhilinskaya
- Alexey hamwe nibyishimo byavuzwe kuri firime, we ubwe aratangaza ibi byose, umuribani. Nawe, umutwe, birashoboka, ntabwo ari byinshi bahuriyeho nabahungu?
Glafira: Oya, kubera iki? Twasomye ibitabo kuva mu bwana bwanjye. Bashobora kubana nintwari z'abakobwa, nubwo bashishikajwe no kuba atari amateka y'urukundo, ahubwo bafitanye isano na sosiyete.
- Ufite abana bane, kandi icyo gihe wavuze ko uko kubyara byakukwegereye, ubwoba bwagukubiye. Noneho birashoboka ko igihe kirageze cyo guhagarara? Cyangwa niteguye?
Glafira: Tegereza urebe. Ubwoba ntabwo aricyo kintu cyingenzi, igihe cyigihe, ibi ntibyahagaritse umuntu, bitandukanye nibibazo byubukungu, ibitekerezo byabandi nibindi.
Alexei: IJAMBO RY'INTALIJE RUGENDE MU GIKORWA CYA OBESTES, Saba uruhushya rwo gutandukana n'umugore we, kuko nyuma y'umwana wa gatatu yabujijwe kubyara. Yizeraga ko abana bagomba kuvukira mu bashakanye.
- Umutwe, biroroshye cyane. Muri icyo gihe, Lesha yavuze ko yari akiri ifishi w'uwo uri mwiza kandi butandukanye ...
Glafira: Nibyo, noneho umugore wawe muto, hanyuma muto. (Aseka.)
Alexei: Ibintu byose biranshimiye. Bidasanzwe niba umuntu yabagabo abibona kuriyi.
Glafira: Nakuwe kuriyi nshuro. Ariko, birumvikana ko umugore arushijeho kugarura buri gihe. Iki gihe ibintu byose byabaye vuba, ariko sinabonye umwanya wo gukora siporo.
Alexei: Ibi bigomba gukorwa buhoro buhoro, ingamba zose zidasanzwe zigaragarira kubuzima, mubitekerezo byanjye. Umubiri ntabwo uri kuri kamere yubusa uhabwa buhoro buhoro gushingwa buhoro buhoro, bigomba no kugenda.
- Lesha, kandi udusito twonyu ntibyashinze ubuzima?
Alexei: Ntabwo. Nakoraga iyi myaka irindwi. Na Ermolai yatwaye imodoka. Umusaza avugisha ukuri, yasobanuye ko adashaka kuba umukinnyi.
Glafira: Akunda robotike, ariko buri gihe akora koga. Agira ati: Igihe kizagera, kijye muri salle. N'uwa gatatu, ishema, ntitwanduye cyane. Akeneye ikintu nk'imbyino za siporo, yimuka neza, igitagangurirwa gito cyangwa inkende. Ndetse bafite imiterere yumubiri muburyo bwose. Ermolay ni imbaraga zikomeye kumubiri.
Ishati, bikkembergs; ipantaro, 21Dot1; Umukandara, Brioni.
Ifoto: Alena Poloshin; Umufasha wa Phorapher: Dina Zhilinskaya
- Ufite inzu nshya - Iki ni ikintu!
Glafira: Nibyo! Inzu yacu ya mbere. Ariko ntitwigeze twimukiye, ni inzira igoye, nubwo gusana birangiye. Yagiye hafi umwaka. Kandi mbere yuko njye ubwanjye, mama yasanaga, yazamutse wallpaper, bose bari bafite ubumuga, bahendutse kandi vuba.
- Alexey, kandi wahawe impano nk'izo, uzi gukora ikintu n'amaboko yawe?
Alexei: Nibiba ngombwa, ibyo nshoboye byose: no guteka, no koza amasahani, hasi. Kera, mu gihe cyabanyeshuri, nasannye inshuti, no mu gisirikare. Ariko nibyiza kwishyura umwuga.
- Umutwe, wavuze ko mubyukuri tutitegura. Nigikoni cyinzozi, nkuko wabita, ntibizagutera imbaraga?
Glafira: Rimwe na rimwe nitegura, akenshi muminsi mikuru, kuko ntabwo na rimwe mfite inzu. Ariko kutavuga ko nakunze uyu mwuga. Hariho aho nshobora gutanga umusaruro muriki gihe. (Kumwenyura.)
- Abahungu bakuru bafasha gato munzu?
Glafira: Baracyafite inyungu zabo bwite, ntabwo ari murugo.
Alexei: Ariko rimwe na rimwe, gutuma abasaza bakaraba amagorofa n'amasahani kuri buri wese. Ndagerageza kubigisha. Indero ni umuntu ukenewe. Umuyobozi mukuru akora "binyuze mu munwa", impuzandengo - hamwe n'ibyishimo.
- Lesha, ntabwo wigeze ubashyigikira ko yamaze igihe cya mbere abana mugihe ari bato?
Alexei: Sinigeze mvuga igitutu nk'iki. Nzi uburyo agatsinsino kerekana akazi ke, kandi mbega ukuntu bizaba bigoye murugo. Birakora, rimwe na rimwe na rimwe na rimwe. (Aseka.) Niba afite akazi gake, biragoye cyane. Birakenewe kuri gahunda.
"Kandi kuba bidakora byinshi gusa, ariko igihe kirekire kimara kuzenguruka, nawe ntukandagira?"
Alexei: Ndabona bisanzwe. Ndi umuntu ufite ubwenge, nzi ko dufite kubwumwuga. Kandi duhora duhura.
Glafira: Tumaze kumenyera ibi. Nubwo rimwe na rimwe Lesha atazi icyo ndi umujyi, ariko ntacyo itwaye, ikintu nyamukuru nuko muzima ari cyiza. Nanjye ubwanjye sinkwibuka kwimuka. Hamwe na nikifor murugendo irashimishije, ntabwo yari no kuri terefone. (Aseka.)
- Alexey, ntiwari urwanya kera gufata urugendo rurerure cyane rwumwana wamezi abiri?
Glafira: Lesha ntabwo yari "kuri". (Aseka.) Kandi yaratangaye cyane igihe, atwite, natanze raporo kuri gahunda zanjye. Tuvuge ko azarwanya, ntakintu cyahinduka. Nashinzwe inshingano zanjye. Twagiye mu gihe gishyushye cya zahabu, no muri Khaty-Mansiys byari bimaze gukumirwa, ibirometero byinshi byanyuze. Ariko nta kintu na kimwe.
- uri kumwe mumyaka cumi nine. Utekereza ute ko wahinduye byinshi?
Alexei: Ikintu nyamukuru nuko umutwe wakomeje kwinezeza kandi wishimye. Ko twese hamwe, ntitubona impinduka zikarishye. Nubwo, hamwe no kuza kwabana, ntabwo ari impinduka nyinshi, ariko byose.
Kuri Alexey: Ishati, Zara; Jeans, Bikkembergs; Inkweto, Jimmy Chora Kurasa: Jumpsuit, umukandara, byose - deullagi; Ibyatsi ingofero, audrey-uburyo; Umufuka, cocinelle; inkweto, pitano; Amatwi, Gucci
Ifoto: Alena Poloshin; Umufasha wa Phorapher: Dina Zhilinskaya
- Ufite iminsi mugihe ushobora kwitangira gusa?
Glafira: Hariho ibihe bidasanzwe iyo turi i Moscou hamwe, ubu twagabanije abana bose mugihe gito (aseka) kandi tukishimira umudendezo, tugaruka muri kiriya gihe mugihe washoboraga gushyikirana utuje, kuganira.
Alexei: Cyangwa gufata urugendo, jya muri resitora. Tumaze imyaka itari mike turota kujya ahantu hamwe, ariko ntaragaragara. Ndi hafi gutembera, noneho Imana ikinga ukuboko, akazi kizaba. Ariko tuzagerageza guhindura iminsi yo kurasa.
Glafira: Ndashaka ko abahungu kuruhuka, batsinze ingabo, babereka isi. Ibi, by, hamwe nubwiza bwamafaranga, kuko umuryango ari munini, kandi harakenewe igihe kubwibi.
Alexei: Ugomba kubaha igihe, muriki kibazo ntabwo byangiritse. Nta binezeza nkibi.
Glafira: Nzi neza ko abana bakeneye kwitabwaho nibibazo byabo kugirango bizeye ibyabo. Kubwibyo, ntabwo mbona ko biteye isoni kuvuga ko ubu ntanubwo mfite, kandi ntidushobora kubigura. Turababwira ko niba ushaka ikintu, urashobora gutegereza ibi cyangwa kuyinjiza.
Alexei: Ndasobanura imfura, kuki tudashobora kugura ikintu, guhindura iyi mibare bihwanye nibicuruzwa.
Glafira: Iyo imizi isaba igikinisho ihenze, naravuze nti: "Iyi ni, kubara, Polivivana." (Aseka.) Yatunguwe agira ati: "Poltanivana?! Nibyo, kandi rimwe na rimwe sofa ihendutse. Urashobora kuzamura icyumba, kandi urashobora kugura ibikoresho kuri aya mafranga.
- Nta n'umwe muri mwe mbere natekerezaga ku muryango munini?
Glafira: Byabaye. Ntabwo twarose kugirango tumenyere.
Alexei: Nibyo, nta gahunda nk'izo. Kandi nzi abantu bo mumiryango minini ntibashaka kugira kimwe. Biragoye cyane gukwirakwiza ibitekerezo n'imyitwarire kuri bose.
- Waba uzi byose kuri mugenzi wawe?
Glafira: Ntekereza ko oya. Bite? Hagomba kubaho umudendezo, isi yimbere. Nkunda cyane ko Lesha asoma byinshi, mfite amahirwe make yibi cyangwa kureba Kinonovinok, ariko ndashobora kumubaza igihe icyo aricyo cyose. Arashobora kumbaza amakuru nyamukuru yumunsi, kandi nzi icyo amenya kuri firime, nabwiwe imyitozo. Turashobora kuganira kubyo bombi bombi bafashwe cyangwa basoma.
- Umutwe, urumva ukomoka kuri Lesha avuye ku muryango? Kandi uzi inzira zidafite ibibazo zo kunoza vuba, utuza umugabo wawe?
Glafira: Ndumva ari kure, yego. (Aseka.) Rimwe na rimwe ni byiza kuzamuka cyangwa gusiga Lesha wenyine mu gikoni. (Aseka.)
Alexei: Mubyukuri, ugomba kwifatira wenyine. Iminota 15 irashobora kumera gutya, ariko ntabwo nimugoroba.
Glafira: Nizere ko iyo tugenda, bizoroha, kuko umwanya munini uzagaragara. Ubu dufite ibyumba bibiri. Abahungu bambuka inzu nto. Kandi iyo uzanye ikibazo cyawe, ndashaka kumutuka ahantu runaka. Ariko bidatinze, tuzagira icyumba cyabo, aho bizashoboka gusezera kutagukoraho.
- Ufite cyane?
Alexei: Nshobora gutaka, ariko rwose nta jwi rirenga, ntituba muri kimwe cya kabiri cya Neapolitan. Bakubiswe, bapfira hafi y'inzu mu minota mike, baribukwa. Kandi uburebure buragenda, kandi sinshobora kurakara igihe kirekire. Kandi muri rusange ntabwo nzi kubabaza umuntu igihe kirekire. Birangoye kuba muri leta cyangwa gutongana.
Glafira: Bibaho gake cyane, kubwamahirwe. Abana, muburyo, bafite ubwoba bwinshi kubera amakimbirane yacu.
Alexei: Igihe kimwe, ubwo imizi yari nto cyane, ntabwo namuritse, ariko hazamurika, arazamuhobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arabafunga inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arabafunga inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arabafunga inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arareba inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arareba inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arareba inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arabafunga inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, arabafunga inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma y'ibirenge byanjye, ampobera inyuma, arasa ati: "Nyamuneka ntinyunyure." Kandi yagenze neza abikuye ku mutima ko nibuka ubuzima.
- Waba ufite umubano mwiza nababyeyi?
Glafira: Yego. Noneho ugomba kuvugana cyane na mama, kuko mubyukuri numusambanyi wa kabiri. Birumvikana ko afite imiterere yacyo nigence, nkumuntu uwo ari we wese, ariko mumuryango wacu abantu bose bagiye guhura.
Alexei: Anecdote ya kera yerekeye nyirabukwe ntabwo ari kuri twe. (Kumwenyura.)
Glafira: Ku babyeyi banjye kandi butoshye, imiterere y'amakimbirane ntirusanzwe. Nakundaga kuvugana byinshi hamwe na mama wa Lesia, ariko ubu ni gake kuri bo, kugirango baganire ku Mwana. Buri gihe burigihe.
- Lesha, imyenda agatsinsino buri gihe muburyohe bwe? Kandi niba ahuye nuwawe?
Glafira: Kuri njye mbona ari byiza ko Lesha atabigenzura. Ariko ntabwo ntegura ubushotoranyi, ntabwo njya muri mini.
Alexei: Ntabwo nibuka ko narwanye na kimwe. Ntazamuka.
Glafira: Mperutse gutanga ibitekerezo, nambaye cyane kandi ndamusobanurira ko ari ngombwa kugirango ishusho. Byari umwambaro ufite decollete na bote.
Alexei: Byongeye kandi, ingero zari kumwe n'umukinnyi, uwo nzi neza, ahita amubaza ati: "Wakwemereye iki uva mu rugo?".
- Alexey, kandi ni ubuhe buryo ukunda neza?
Alexei: Tuvugishije ukuri, sinzi, ibintu byose binshimiye.
- Wigeze kuvuga ko ntagomba no gusuzugura insanganyamatsiko yishyari.
Glafira: Ntabwo bifuzwa, ndetse na psychologiya irabivuga.
- Hari n'umwe muri mwe ufite ishyari, byibuze imbere?
Glafira: Ntabwo twatanze impamvu.
- Bibaho nta mpamvu. Hirya no hino kumutwe ni abafatanyabikorwa beza, abagabo beza ...
Alexei: Umuntu wese azi ko turi umugabo n'umugore.
Glafira: Mfite intwaro nkiyi - umugabo wanjye, niba ibyo, ntibizaba bike, ndetse mirongo ine inyuma ye. Kuki nkeneye umuntu ufite ibihimbano? Nzaza kumunsi hamwe na gurbo. (Aseka.)
Kuri Alexey: Ishati, Bikkembergs; ipantaro, 21Dot1; Umukandara, Brioni ku kurara: imyambarire, Isabel Garcia; Umufuka, cocinelle; Amaheto, ASES.
Ifoto: Alena Poloshin; Umufasha wa Phorapher: Dina Zhilinskaya
- Ndabona ko ushimishijwe kandi ushimishwa.
Glafira: Kandi ndabikoze neza, navuga. Dufite abana bane, rwose ntitubona umwanya wo kubura.
Alexei: Ingingo nta no muri ibi. Biragaragara ko niba dufite imizi imwe, dushobora kwigurira ibindi bintu - gutwara kenshi murugendo, kurugero. Icyumweru cyacu cyicyumweru kijya i Istanbul cyangwa Berlin, kugendera mubitekerezo. Ku rundi ruhande ...
Glafira: Ntidushobora kwiyumvisha ko nta wermola yacu, cyangwa ishema, cyangwa nikifora. Umuntu wese ntabwo yemewe, ntibishoboka kubihindura kubitaramo bimwe ndetse no mubiruhuko.
Alexei: Byongeye kandi, hari ingendo zo gukora. Iyo ugurutse muwundi mujyi ku kurasa ako kanya nyuma yimikorere, hanyuma nanone - kubikorwa ninyuma, ntusobanukiwe aho uri. Nkuko mwarimu wanjye, Yuri Sooman yabwiwe, amaze gusohokera ahantu hose kuri Perron, ariko ntibumva umujyi yari ari uwo mujyi n'aho agiye. Kandi bitwikiriye ubwoba.
- Ufite amafaranga muri boiler isanzwe? Ninde ufata ibyemezo by'ingenzi?
Alexei: Ibisubizo by'ingenzi - Bisanzwe. Amafaranga nawo arasanzwe, ntawe usangiye ibyawe, uwanjye. Iyo adahagije, arahamagara, asaba kugitondera cyane.
- Umutwe, ntushobora gutera imbere, kugura imyenda ihenze?
Glafira: Nukuri ndabishoboye. Niba bihenze cyane, ndabibaza. Ariko, birashoboka cyane, ntabwo nzabigura ubwanjye, nzagirira impuhwe amafaranga. (Aseka.)
Alexei: Buri gihe ndabaza: "Nshobora kugura?", Ndavuga nti: "Yego."
- Alexey atanga, nkuko ndabyumva ...
Glafira: Oya, Lesha ni ngirakamaro, ariko ntukamurika. Irashobora no gusubika ikintu.
Alexei : Nibiba ngombwa umuryango, ndabishoboye. Ariko njye, ariko, ntabwo ari umuntu ufatika kandi ntuzi neza gusuzuma amafaranga ko mwisi ya none, aho kuba abigometse. Ndi umusore wumusonga, ndetse numushumba, nubwo ari muto, ntajya aho. Nubwo waba ugerageza kumenyera isi ya kijyambere n'imiterere mishya, turacyakomeza kubana muri Leta Zunze Ubumwe z'Abasoviyeti. Kandi muri usssr sinibuka ko umuntu adatanga. Inshuti zanjye zose zari nko mubana, n'ababyeyi bacu hamwe na mbere, kuko abantu bose babayeho nabi, ariko mubyukuri. Iyi myifatire ku mafaranga ntiyarezwe, kuko yahabwaga, mu burengerazuba. Turashaka ko abana bacu babera abantu beza, igitekerezo cya kijyambere cyumuntu wumuntu ntabwo ari hafi yacu.