Evgeny Anthropov yiyise Amahirwe, ariko icyarimwe usanga ibintu byose byamubayeho rwose - nta nkomyi yashakaga kuri firime. Arasa atoroshye cyane muri mirongo itatu na babiri, nubwo abona byinshi nkumuntu mukuru numuntu ufite inshingano cyane ufite imizigo ikomeye y'amahoro. Nibyiza, umuhungu, wagumye muri yo, yemerera gushyirwa mumikino yo kurasa no kuvugana ku kirenge kimwe hamwe n'abahungu be bombi bato. Ibi byose - mubazwa n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
- Eugene, wowe muscovite. Byemezwa ko intara yorohereza kurenga. Wigeze wumva itandukaniro na bagenzi bawe-Nonoshvichi?
- Umukara wa valentin mu gitabo cye "Moscou ntabwo yizeraga igitabo cye" yanditse ko Abascovite batakunze abitabiriye. Hanyuma Muscovite ahinduka igihuru. Nkuko umukunzi wanjye avuga, ni "abana b'Abasileuge", kubera ko intara z'intara ziba mu icumbi, bakeneye kurya, gucamo, kandi bagerageza guhangana n'amasano, kubaka. Kandi twe, Abascovite, dufite inzu bazagaburira bakagenda. Kubwibyo, nubwo waba ufite intego, nta byingenzi nkayageraho. Igihe nabonaga uruhare rwa mbere ku cya gatatu, ntabwo nabonye igitangaza - narabigenderaga. Ninkaho umukanishi wize akazi ke akakira. Njye mbona mbona ko intara ishinjwa gutsinda cyane, ariko narakomeye cyane. Ntabwo navuye ku nshuro ya mbere kandi ndababara cyane ku buryo ngomba kwicara nta nasabye.
- birababaje gusa ?! Hariho ikizere ko uzakora uko byagenda kose? Kandi wakoze iki umwaka?
- Papa yari afite iduka rito rya siporo muri KuzminAkh, nakoragayo nugurisha. Nyuma yo gutsindwa, icyizere, ku rundi ruhande, cyiyongereye. Mugukora ubugirane kabiri, narakangutse uburakari, twatekereje nti: "Yego, uri nde utampa kwishora mubyo ukunda ?!" Nari imbere cyane, binini, nasanze ndi, ndasabwa gukora. Kandi urujijo rwampaye imbaraga zidasanzwe. Nishimiye ko nageze i Gitis, muri Leonid Efimovich Heifets, atera urufatiro rukomeye. Nubwo ikintu cyingenzi kigaburira muri uyu mwuga, - uburambe, no guhanga, nubuzima.
- Kandi ni hehe bwo gufata uburambe bwubuzima kumusore?
- Mubyukuri, bizana imyaka. Ariko hari ikintu kibaho kuri buri wese - nubunararibonye bwibintu byurukundo, nikinamico mumuryango cyangwa kuva kuri bene wabo, inshuti magara. Bibaho, wowe ubwawe unyunyure mu nkuru zikomeye, niyo zibabaje mu rubyiruko. Nyuma yo kwakira, najyanye n'umunyeshuri twiganaga muri Alushta. Mbere y'ibyo, Mama Mama, nyogokuru, arwaye na kanseri, yumvaga ari bibi. Namukunze cyane. Mobile noneho yari isanzwe, ariko ihuriro ryari rifite agaciro hamwe nu mwanya, kandi twagiye kuri posita hafi buri munsi kuri Moscou. Nabajije uko ibintu bimeze nka nyirakuru. Nabwiwe ko ibintu byose biri murutonde. Papa, Mama na murumunawe, bandusha imyaka ine yageze kuri sitasiyo kugira ngo duhure. Twegereye ubwinjiriro, papa ajyana na murumuna wanjye gushyira imodoka, kandi twita mama, biraza kubwimpamvu runaka idafite umucyo. Kandi muri iyi lift yijimye nahise mbaza nti: "Mama, nyirakuru ameze ate?" "Na we asubiza ati:" Zhere, nyirakuru yapfiriye mu Kanama ka kabiri. " Nibyo rwose nageze mu nyanja. Nta kintu na kimwe ntacyo babwiye kugira ngo mruhuke neza. Noneho wasangaga amaso ye wenyine, kandi byose, na nyuma y'iminsi itatu, mfata igitekerezo cy'uko noneho nzagera i Yaroslavl, nzazamuka mu ijambo rya kane, nzahamagara inzu ya mirongo itatu na mirongo mirongo inani, I. ntazigera akingura umuryango wumugore muto. Kandi nacitse. Kandi benshi muri bose ni iteye isoni ku buryo atambonye muri firime. Nzi ukuntu bishimiye ko bishimiye akazi kanjye. Cyane cyane ko turi umuryango woroshye rwose.
"Namenye urupfu rwa nyogokuru - ijisho ryerekanwe, kandi nibyo. Nyuma y'iminsi itatu afata igitekerezo ko umugore muto utazigera ankingura"
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
- Mama na papa bakora iki?
- Papa yarangije ishuri ridasanzwe-ryinyanja. Ariko yakoraga hano, ahari, muri mirongo ine, yagerageje gutegura ubucuruzi bumwe buto, akingura iduka, hanyuma asezera. Mama ari muri rusange amashuri yisumbuye gusa, umugore wo murugo ubuzima bwose. Ariko yashimye sinema ya Soviet hamwe na firime nyinshi zarebye kuri TV. Yabwiye ko mu myaka umunani nagize firime nkunda - "inshuti zizerwa". Twari dufite cassette hamwe na we, ndabishyira, ndeba, ndeba, urebye ... Filime yacu "Abatsinze" nanone inshuti nyazo. Nubwo bafata icyo bakora, baracyajya kumugenzi kugirango bafashe, bahangayikishwa, bakize ubuzima.
- Wemewe byoroshye muri "Abatsinze"?
- Dmitry Kontantinov yanyanditse uruhare rwa Zavarizi, kuko tuyizi igihe kirekire, arankunda. Ariko nashoboraga gutakaza uyu mushinga, kuko igihe Kontantinov yavuye ku mwanya w'igituba, namenye ibiganiro navugaga ku bigereranywa. Nahise nshaka kujya ku muyobozi mushya, kuguma mu rukuta akavuga ati: "Nyereka, ninde ugiye kugikiza Zavarizina ?!" (Aseka.) Ariko rero umuyobozi yongeye guhinduka kandi ibintu byose biramanuka.
- Wahuye ninkuru zimwe na zimwe zo gutangaza kugirango ugaragaze ikintu cyangwa abandi?
- Muri rusange nioroshye cyane kujya "mu buntege nke." Ariko ubu sinshobora kwibuka ikintu cyerekezo. Inshuro ebyiri zasimbutse na parasute, ariko nta muntu ufite Podnakoval, nanjye ubwanjye ndashaka - Natekereje ko gusimbuka no kureka gutinya uburebure. Ntiyahagaritse. (Aseka.) Muri rusange, birashimishije nkikibazo ntagira icyo nkora, bakora ibihe hafi yubusa. Kandi ibi ntibireba inshingano gusa. Guhora bigaragara "Urashobora - ntushobora", kandi ndahuje ako kanya. Niba ushaka kuntumbura ikintu, noneho nkeneye kurakara. (Kumwenyura.)
- Emera, wagaragaye ibimenyetso byindwara yinyenyeri?
- Oya, oya. Nubwo bakubiswe na bagenzi, ko hari ukuntu byahindutse nyuma yishusho yambere. Ibinyuranye, nari mfite amafaranga, kandi nashoboraga kuzamura igiceri - atari cyo mu rutugu ruturuka mu bitunguru, "kuri, Gulyi", ahubwo ni ukubera ko nashakaga gutanga. Kandi impinduka zari impapuro za litmus njya neza. Kugeza ubu ntabwo nafataga amashusho, nafataga imirimo yose yinzego nkikintu cya nyuma: Nkeneye kubaho, gupfa ... kubwibyo, ntakintu cyakoze. Igihe natangiraga gukora, byari bimaze kuza mu kigo hamwe nazindi kwishakira. Ndibuka, "bashiki bacu batatu" basubiramo - muri rusange nari muri leta yubusa, maze umuyobozi avuga igihe cyose ati: "Mukinisha neza." Gusa kubera ko ubwambere mubuzima bwanjye harirohewe no kwiringira.
"Buri gihe nanze kugurisha itabi, saba kwerekana pasiporo. Imyaka yanjye ni imyaka mirongo itatu n'ibiri, ariko sinubyumva na gato."
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- Byakugendekeye bite nyuma yo kubona uruhare runini rwa mbere?
- Nta na kimwe. Akazi ka mbere kari metero yuzuye, kandi abantu bose baravuze byose: "Musaza, Nibyiza, ubu byose, urabyuka ..." Kandi sinari mfite ibyiyumvo nk'ibyo, ni ko bimeze bityo ko bizatanga akazi ku kazi. Kandi igihe ibyo bitabaye, natekereje nti: "Ikidasanzwe, cyagize uruhare runini, kandi nta kintu na kimwe cyahindutse." Ariko buhoro buhoro imishinga iragenda, harimo nibyiza cyane, kandi ingenzi cyane. Kumenyana na Dima kantonantinov n'ubufatanye na we na Alana Zvankova, umugore we, mu ishusho "Muraho, ukunda" byanzaniye umunezero mwinshi.
- Waba uzi kwishima ntabwo ari ugukora gusa?
- Ndagerageza. Kurugero, nishimiye iyo igisigo cyanditswe. Nkunda kamere; Nibyiza mugihe nshobora kwicara ahantu ducecetse cyangwa kunywa ikawa nziza mugitondo. Nishimiye ko mbyuka, izuba riva mu muhanda uwo munsi mfite umunsi w'ikiruhuko cyangwa, ku rundi ruhande, amaherezo njya ku kazi kandi ko ushobora kumarana umwanya munini uri kumwe n'abantu bakunda. Ndashobora kwishimira ibyo nabwiye anecdote ku kurasa, yagabye abantu bose, yazamuye abantu, kandi wari ushishikajwe no kwitabwaho. N'ikintu cyiza kigutera stilish irashobora kwishima.
- Urashobora kwibwira ko ufite amahirwe?
- Ndatekereza, yego, kuberako akenshi ibintu byakunze cyane ko umuhigi-hook - kandi byose ubwabyo byabaye. Igihe nageraga i Alexey Mizgigy ku ngero muri "flint", firime yanjye ya mbere, yarambajije, niba mbizi, bivuze inzira imwe idasanzwe. Namushubije ko yego, kuko nabigisomye i Dovlatov. Yavuze ati: "Ntawe ubizi, urabizi, mwiza." Byari ikindi wongeyeho, kugirango nemererwe. Nakinnye muri filime ye, kandi nabonye Yusuf Bakhshuyev ahamagara "antikiller". Hanyuma nahuye na Alena Zvankova, kandi inshingano zatangiye kwandika uruhare - ibi nabyo ni amahirwe. Nubwo ku rundi ruhande, ahanini.
- Wandika ibisigo. Nigute byatangiye, kuki?
- Mfite imyaka cumi n'itatu nanditse igisigo cya mbere kurupapuro runaka. Kandi vuba aha narwaye imivugo muri imwe muri Cafe. Nanditse igihe cyose ku meza, hanyuma Lena Makhova, yiganye i Kudryashov muri Gitis, ajugunya induru mu mbuga nkoranyambaga: "Abakinnyi! Ninde wanditse ibisigo ... " Ntabwo ari zone yanjye nziza - soma imivugo yawe kumugaragaro. Ariko naracyemezo. Igitangaje ni uko natangiye kwandika mu Cyongereza, nubwo yamwigishije kwishuri gusa kandi akabyara ine. Numvaga ku buryo mu kirusiya bizaba mu gahanga, ariko mu Cyongereza. Ninkinkuru ifite indirimbo ivuga Icyongereza: Ni beza, ariko imuhereza mu kirusiya - byose,. Nari nicaye mfite inkoranyamagambo kandi nshakisha amagambo yo kwerekana igitekerezo cyanjye, bizana ibisigo umwarimu wicyongereza, na paradox - ntabwo yabonye amakosa make, nubwo nari mfite amagambo make. Hanyuma atangira kwandika mu kirusiya, mbere na scraps zimwe, hanyuma imivugo yamaze kugenda.
- Utekereza ko ari iki, nkumukinnyi numusizi, kuki byose byumugani mwiza urangira, noneho hariho umubano mwiza wurukundo, ndetse ninkuru zikomeye z'umuryango?
- Kuraho igihe kirekire - Iyi ni inkuru yo guhuriza hamwe. Ibi ntabwo ari igice, byose byihagije. Niba mubyukuri uri munzira, uzagumana. Ndashidikanya ko chimie ishobora kugenda. Irashobora guhinduka, haguruka kandi ibuze, ariko burigihe ni ubwoko bwinkuru ya Remarkovskaya. Umugabo ntashobora guhagarika gushima umugore niba amukunda. Papa na mama bishimiye kubana imyaka irenga mirongo itatu.
"Wavuze uti: Umuryango wawe ntufitanye isano n'ubuhanzi, mama wenyine ni bwo yakundaga firime." Kuki wahisemo ko ukora ikintu ukunda?
- Kwiga mu ishuri rya Gymnasium, nakinnye muri ikinamico kuri "Sooro". Umwarimu w'icyongereza yampaye uruhare ruto. Hanyuma muri Koridor, bavuze ngo mu buryo butunguranye: "Genda ku bakinnyi, ni ibyawe." Ntekereza ko nimuriwe kuri jangi zifatiro zikomeye kuri se. Ni arshinous ari mu buhanzi. Igihe twajyaga muri Turukiya hamwe na we, imbaga y'abantu n'abagabo baramwegereye, n'abagore: azi ibihumbi n'ibihumbi by'inyongera, urwenya, urwenya, kandi afite igikundiro kidasanzwe.
- Kandi wahisemo kuba umukinnyi, Papa yarishimye?
- Papa yagaragaje gushidikanya, ariko birashoboka ko azankura vuba. Cyane cyane mu mwaka wa mbere, igihe ntabikoze, habaye ubushotoranyi nk'ubwo. Ntekereza ko hari ukuntu atabishaka ati: Ariko namfashije gusa. Kandi mama yahoraga anyizera. Arishimye cyane, ariko abona ibisanzwe ko umuhungu akora muri cinema, kuri we ntabwo ari inkuru y'itangaza. Ntabwira abantu bose bakurikiranye uwo afitanye umuhungu, uyu papa azahitamo kuvuga ati: Ni umuntu w'amarangamutima cyane. Kandi mama yitwaza icyubahiro: "Yego, yarakoze, yego, ikora" (kumwenyura), ntabwo ari ubwitonzi bw'imbere.
- Urasa cyane. Wumva ufite imyaka ingahe?
"Nahoraga twanze kugurisha itabi, saba kwerekana pasiporo, ndetse n'abambajije ubwa mbere:" Uravuga cyane ko mfite imyaka cumi n'irindwi? ". Icyansubijeho ni uko ubu hariho umwana w'imyaka cumi n'irindwi ushaka mirongo itatu. Mfite uko nshuro mirongo itatu na kabiri, ariko sinumva muri rusange, nubwo uburambe bwibitugu. Kandi, vuba aha ahindura ibyiyumvo ubwabyo mugihe nigihe, gusobanukirwa agaciro kakanya nigihe ubwacyo byagaragaye. Ntibikiri kumva ko usinzira ukangutse, kandi umeze neza, kandi uzaba indi myaka ijana buri munsi. Oya, bizaba bitandukanye. Birumvikana ko hari inshingano z'abana n'ababyeyi.
- Nyuma yo kuvuka kwimfura, wakuriye?
- Ibintu byose byari byiza gutuza, bidasanzwe. Mubisanzwe, ubuzima bwarahindutse, kuko umuntu muto yagaragaye, uwo ushinzwe ubuzima bwanjye bwose. Kandi iyi ni ibyiyumvo bishya; Kumuzirika kuri we, Ariko ako kanya ntibishoboka kubimenya - birashoboka kuko nibikorwa bitangaje. Ntiwumva impamvu avuza induru, uburyo bwo kubishyira, shyira ibitotsi, ariko buhoro buhoro kubimenyera. Kandi iyo umenyereye, urumva ko udafite uyu muntu ubu ntushobora. Ariko ibyo nahise mbwira Bass (aseka) cyangwa byabaye bikomeye kandi ari ngombwa, ntibyabaye.
- Kuki umuhungu wa mbere wa Petero yahamagaye?
- Hitamo gusa mucyubahiro cyintumwa. Igihe kimwe, natekereje ko iyo mfise abahungu babiri, byaba byiza ko bazagira itandukaniro rito, bari kujyana ku ishuri bakavuga ko hagira hati: "Intumwa ziraza." Kandi bafite itandukaniro mumyaka ibiri hamwe na Kopecks, mukuru afite imyaka itanu. Twahisemo umwana wa kabiri, ariko nasanze ko bitatorotse: Hariho Petero, reka Pawulo abe. Barazuzuza, kandi nibyiza. Bafite imico itandukanye rwose, imwe biroroshye, undi arakomeye. Imfura ashimisha fiziki, muto - amagambo, nubwo ari ibisobanuro bisize irangi cyane. (Aseka.)
"Kuraho igihe kirekire - Iyi niyo nkuru yo guhuriza hamwe. Byose kwihagije, ariko niba uri munzira, uzagumana."
Ifoto: Vladimir myshkin
- Ni ibihe bihe byabana byoroshye cyangwa bishimishije kubashyikirana nabo?
- burigihe birashimishije. Gusa bisa nkaho ari bito kandi ntacyo bumaze gusobanukirwa, ntibishobora kugusubiza, ariko byose byumva byimazeyo. Abana bakunda iyo babonye ababyeyi. Niba njya ahantu runaka, barashaka kujyana nanjye niba hari icyo mbona - icara hafi.
- Bamwe mu bakinnyi baherutse kuvuga ko ikibazo uwo yifuza - umuhungu cyangwa umukobwa, - atatekereje ko yashubije umuhungu we, kuko yarose ka kajugujugu igenzurwa na radiyo ...
- Iyo abana bagaragaye, ujya ku "isi y'abana" ku mpamvu z'amategeko. (Aseka.) Nubwo uri umuntu mukuru kandi urashobora kugura igikinisho icyo aricyo cyose, ariko mugihe hari urwitwazo ebyiri, ni ikindi kibazo. Birasa nkaho uzabagura, ariko nawe. Ntabwo shaje tekereza ko vuba aha tuzakina hamwe mumikino nkiyi.
- Umuhungu wa mbere yavutse mugihe uri kumurongo. Kandi hamwe na kabiri ... Wigeze kuba muri ako kanya?
- Petero yavutse igihe twafatwaga amajwi na Kontantinov "umunyabyaha". Na Pawulo - Igihe nari mgeze mu rugo, nyuma yumushinga. Ariko sinari berekanye kandi ntibarabitekerezaho. Nzi ko benshi bakora ibi, ariko imbere yabagabo ntibemerewe inzira. Kandi muri ubu buryo, mfite uburere gakondo.
- Kuberako ukora umwuga - abagabo?
- Umwe mu mukunzi wanjye avuga ko atari abantu. Nkuko umuntu antekereje kumbwira. Ntekereza ko umwuga ukora ari umugabo udasanzwe, niba ari uko wahoze ari umuntu gusa. Kandi birakomeye kumubiri, cyane cyane niba aba barwanyi, fantasy. Nkeneye uyu mwuga, kuko ikeneye kandi ushobora guha imbaraga mfite byinshi. Niba utabitanze, utangira "kurya" hafi yabandi, mbere yabantu bose. Birumvikana, hamwe n'imyaka, wige kwirinda, ariko mugihe nta kazi hageze igihe kinini, sinshobora kuruhuka, ndababara kandi ndababara kandi mfite ubwoba, ikibabaje. Nkunda imbaraga zuyu mwumwuga: Kuberako bumwe mubuzima bwanjye ushobora kubaho mubuzima bwinshi. Ni ngombwa kuri njye kumva ko wa mbere umugabo, hanyuma umuhanzi. Niba kandi muburyo ukeneye kwimura ameza, ntushobora gutegereza abakozi baza kubikora.