Fyodor Lavrov yavukiye mu muryango w'abakinnyi b'ikinamico ya St. Petersburg, ariko ntibumva inzira ye na roza ndetse bahatirwa kuzerera iyo bahisemo umwuga. Yiyemerera ko kubera guhangayikishwa n'imiryango ibiri, ariko ubu, nubwo twiyeguriye umwuga, ibyihutirwa byarahindutse. Umukinnyi wavuye kuri Petero yerekeza muri Moscou, yahinduye aho yakoraga hamwe na BDT kuri Mht maze abona umuryango mushya, aho abana babiri bagaragaye - umukobwa wa Werurwe n'umuhungu wa Werurwe.
- Fedya, dushobora kuvuga kuri wewe wakuriye inyuma yinyuma?
- Nukuri! Nakoresheje ubwana bwanjye n'ubwangavu muri Tyuze, aho Mama yakoraga, kandi muri papa muto. (Data - Umuhanzi w'abantu Nikolai Lavrov. - Hafi. Auth.). Ariko muri rusange bakura mu muhanda, muri Pazona na Mazurikov. (Umwenyura.) Muri mirongo ine, hari amabandi menshi n'amabandi, kandi benshi muri bo bahoze ari inshuti zanjye twize ku ishuri kandi babaga mu nzu imwe kuri Mokhovoy. Umuhanda rero wahise unzanira, mama yari kumwe na papa yaburiwe ku kazi kuva mugitondo kugeza nijoro. Niba kandi mumyaka, ubuzima bwingenzi bwubusa bwakomeje, bwari bumaze kumvikana, byari bimaze gushimishwa no kumanikwa mukinamico cyangwa kwicara kuri piyano no kureka ubutuzi. Nibyo, nari hafi yo kudubukira - abacuranzi b'ibitare, baranyeganyega. Hariho ahantu h'amadini muri St. Petersburg nk'inzibacyuho "umuyoboro", aho baririmbye indirimbo, gutembera, nanywa itabi, nanjye ndanywa itabi. Imyaka yari ishonje, urubyiruko ntirushobora kwidagadura cyane, ariko amafaranga ni make. Kubwibyo, umuntu yabonye indirimbo mu myari, kandi umuntu atangira kuvanga ku isoko.
- Papa hamwe na mama yitaye ku kuba yansize inzoga, kandi wajyanye ute n'urugo rwawe rugera?
- Nabaye mukuru kare vuba. Ku myaka cumi n'itandatu yamaze kwinjira mu kigo, kandi ubu ni ubuzima butandukanye rwose. Umunyeshuri wishuri yafatwagatiye cyane numugabo wabaye, nubwo yaje kugenda igihe yashakaga kandi ashobora kuguma ahantu hose. Kandi n'abana, papa, cyangwa Mama, barabubujije ibi. Nubwo, byanze bikunze, niba natashye mfite impumuro ya vittery, noneho mbona abapayimoni. Kuva avuye kuri nyirakuru kumashuri yisumbuye yari hyperemp. Byankoze cyane kandi byongeye kumpatira ku murongo ibiri ushize ushimangira umwanya wanjye bwite aho umuryango wabujijwe.
- Nzi ko ibyo ukunda birimo imiti myinshi. Nigute kandi byatangiriye kandi gute bihujwe nizindi nyungu?
- Umuntu ntabangamira. Iki nikibazo cyo kwifuza no kwishimisha. Amaduka, "umuyoboro", gukubitwa urutare no kuganira na Shpana - Ibi biracyari ubuzima butandukanye bwibanga, aho nshobora kumara bike cyane. Ariko imiti yari umuyobozi, ntabwo aricyo cyakiriwe neza, ariko cyarafashwe. Muri rusange, nashoboraga kubona umwanya mumunsi umwe naha niho, n'aho. Nubuvuzi, buri gihe nashishikajwe numubiri wumuntu no kuva mu bwana bwimbitse ndamubazaga umwuga mwiza. No ku ishuri mpora nkunda ibinyabuzima, Botany. Kandi iki cyahaye imbaraga, simbizi.
- Ntabwo wakoze muri studiyo iyo ari yo yose n'ikirangantego?
Ati: "Ni mu kipe yo mu nzu y'imikino yo guhanga urubyiruko kandi sinshobora kuvuga ko byanshimishije, nari nishimiye cyane kumbwira abakinnyi muri myitozo ngororamubiri cyangwa mama. Abantu bakuru bishora mu buremere ikintu gikomeye, nawe, schake, reba kandi utekereze: "Hano ni, ubu!"
Umuto wa Fedya yari umuntu wigenga kandi watsinzwe umwanya
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Fromari Lavrov
- Ariko rero ntabwo wari ugiye kuba umukinnyi.
- Yego, ariko, uko bigaragara, hari ikintu cyari cyicaye imbere. Kandi nashakaga kuba umuntu ugaragara. No muri iki gihe, iyo mbonye umuntu ushishikaye, umuhanzi w'ubucuruzi bwe, mpita nkuraho ingofero, yaba byibuze umusirikare. Kandi mu baganga n'abahanzi, naje abantu nkabo.
- Wari ufite murugo mumukinnyi munini, abayobozi cyangwa abantu baturutse mubindi bice?
- Mu nzu y'ababyeyi habaye abahanzi n'abahanga mu by'ingenzi, na fiziki ... Ibi bidukikije byose - sogokuru, abashakanye, ibyo bitwa inshuti nziza "yari atuye. Kandi, byanze bikunze, natewe cyane.
- Kandi tunabana ninshuti zinzu mwabyaye mubana cyangwa urubyiruko ruvugana mubwenge?
- Na nyirarume Sasha Khanovsky. Kandi ndibuka uburyo intare Abramovich Dodin mu njangwe ya Hammock. Zynoviy Yakovlevich Khobansky yari iwacu, agatsiko k'abahanzi beza ba St. Petersburg n'abasigaje ahantu habi no gushushanya ibitabo. Umuryango wacu wari inshuti na fiziki nziza cyane, ubwami bwo mwijuru, Nyirarume KiesTh DYaconov. By'umwihariko, papa, uruziga rwanjye rw'uyu munsi ntirurenze icyo gihe afite. Birumvikana ko i St. Petersburg, ubuzima bupimye kuruta i Moscou, maze habaho akazu aho abantu bose baza, kandi hari akazu ko abantu bose baje, inyama zose zinywa, zinywa inzoga, ziringinga indirimbo ziravuga bati: "Coland ...
- birashoboka ko wakunze ibi byose? Byunvikana nkaho wibuka ibi ubu.
- neza. Nashimishijwe cyane no kuba kumeza. Nari ntoya, ariko "umusatsi wo gutwi", icyitwa, nakunze amagare babwiye. Kandi inshuti nyamukuru ya se yaba yaravuze ko Manchov, mwiza cyane Vladimir Valentinovich. Ku ya 1 Mutarama, twahoraga dutangirana nuko yaduhamagariye kuva i Moscou, cyangwa umutware kuri we. Ku munani mu gitondo ku ya 1 Mutarama. Nyirarume Volode yashyize ikintu muri Yayo, igihe bombi bari bato cyane, habaye inshuti. Umuntu wa mbere navuze ku rupfu rwa data, na we yari Volodeya. Kandi ntabwo hashize igihe kinini, twakinnye inshingano ebyiri nyamukuru muri filime "Ivanov", Data n'Umwana. Kandi nari meze cyane ku buryo ntashobora gukorana na we, kuba mu bwato bumwe. Twarashe i St. Petersburg, nateguye inama yumuryango wose, nitwa mama, muri rusange, ibintu byose byari byiza. Nagize ibibazo byinshi kuri we. Se amaze kuba, nabonye na Vladimir Valentinovich rimwe, twabajije tugirane kubwimpamvu zimwe, kandi hano twaganiraga nibitangaje, byasangikaga byinshi.
- Papa ntiyabaye igihe wari ufite imyaka makumyabiri n'itanu. Iki nicyo gikorwa cyacitsemo ibice mbere na nyuma?
- Birumvikana ko ari amazi ari amazi, amenagura umugozi, yontekereza byose. Jye na mama twashyigikiye. Nakomeje kugira umwanya ucamo, kuko ntageze mbona ikintu gikomeye mu mwuga. Ubu itangiye gutuza no gukora ibintu, ntabwo ikora no gushaka.
Hamwe n'umugore we Elena n'abana bato Marita na Frol
Ifoto: Victor Gorryachev
- Wasobanukiwe mubana nurubyiruko ko papa ibintu byose abishoboye kurusha mama? Umuhanzi w'abantu, kuri we jya kuri theatre, yafata amashusho muri firime ...
- Ihame, narabisobanukiwe, ariko mumuryango ntitwavuze kuri ibi. Nta na leta mbi. Mama yarakoze, papa yakoraga, bubahaga imirimo ya buri wese, bajyana ku bitaramutsa, babiganiraho. Kandi bombi bari akazi. Mama aracyari akazi.
- Nigute waje ufite izina ryanyuma?
Ati: "Nagerageje guhisha umuhungu we, ariko biragaragara ko ibyo twumva byose ku ya kabiri cyangwa gatatu. Namaze kurekura mu kigo, kandi ibindi byose byaravuzwe ngo: "A, uyu ni Umwana w'umuhungu." Nashakaga kandi kuba njye ubwanjye.
- Muri St. Petersburg hari abalaure. Babajije niba utari mwene wabo wa Kirill Lavrov?
- Birumvikana. No muri BDT, aranyakira. Ariko ntabwo turi bene wabo, nubwo bimeze kuri Masha, twakinnye murumuna we na mushiki wanjye muri vasse Zeznocoy. Hari ukuntu yatwaye urugendo, ahagarara i Tamburi anywa kandi yemera ko twari bene wabo. Kirill Yuyevich yahuye na njye Byendagusetsa, yagize ati: "Mwaramutse, muraho, kimwe!" Igitangaje gishimishije na nyirame. Kandi kuri BDT yakoze byinshi: Niba atari kuri we, ibintu byose byatandukana nyuma ya Tovstonov. Noneho hari kryuku andrei ukomeye, inshuti yanjye magara. Nshyize ikinamico muri St. Petersburg, none twese dutangirana nayo akazi runaka aho ari umuyobozi, kandi ndi umuhanzi. Kandi birashoboka ko igihembwe gitaha kizabaho. Umukobwa wanjye w'imfura akatiye mu "mukubato" maze amumenya ku muyobozi. Iyo ndi muri St. Petersburg, burigihe naje kuri Andrey kunywa ikawa.
- Mu byifuzo byahise bigaragara ko wabaye ahantu?
- Oya, inzira yambere yari ikuzimu gusa, sinigeze numva icyo bashaka kuri njye nicyo nkora hano. Byari byiza kujya kurubuga, muri rusange, ntabwo ari muri Iris. Noneho utuje ikintu cyabaye. Mu gihe ugereranije, nasezeranije umuziki, nari mfite itsinda ryanjye. Nashakishaga ikintu ki, noneho hano, firime noneho ntiyayifashe, niyo mirongo.
- Kandi muri MDT, aho papa yakoraga, ntabwo yahamagaye?
- ntabwo. Ntabwo nari mfite umubano niyi theatre, nubwo nubaha cyane intare abramovich. Nerekanwa muri MDT akimara nyuma yikigo, ariko nasanze umukara kuri bo. Nagiye inzira yanjye.
Umukobwa wo mubukwe bwa mbere bwa Glafira yagiye ku kirenge cya se
Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Fromari Lavrov
- Dodin muri Catalock ya Hammock, ntabwo yajyanye ikinamico. Gusetsa.
- Nibyiza, ibi nibisanzwe. Aceceka kandi yinjira kuri njye. Hanyuma, igihe papa atakiri, nahamagaye aho, ariko nanze. Noneho, birumvikana ko byababaje, birababaza, bidashimishije. Ariko icyarimwe byahindutse isomo rikomeye: Ugomba gukomeza, no kudapfa.
- Umuntu wo mu bakinnyi afite ibindi bisohoka muri ibyo bihe ...
- Yego! Petero azwiho kuri ibi. Mfite inshuti nyinshi, basore bafite impano, bagumyeyo kandi ntibasa nabantu. Igihe nari ntegereje ko film amezi, nazo, mubisanzwe byatangiye kunywa. Byari ngombwa gukora, igihe gisigaye, urubyiruko, igihe cyo gushora imari, akazi. Ariko nanone, nagize amahirwe na firime, kuko i St. Petersburg nageze ku bayobozi nka Alexey Herman, Umudage, Alexey German, Irakli KVIRIKADZE. Nagize amahirwe yo gukoraho no kwitabira cinema yikinini kinini, cyisi. Nanditse rero muri ubu buryo. Nibyo, na papa bakuwe mu bayobozi b'indahemuka, nubwo atari afite amazina ava ipanthene.
- Wigeze kurasa nawe?
"Nibyo, ku bwanjye, ku bwanjye ukwezi nigice i Berdyansk ku macandwe, aho kontantin Rykin n'abandi bahanzi bakonje, bakorewe iruhande rwa papa, bari bishimye gusa. Twebwe abahungu, bagendeye mu isanduku, nk'ubwato. Ndetse no gufata amashusho y'ikirwa cya film "ku kirwa cya kera" bafashe agatsiko k'amato ashaje, kandi ku bana baho hari umuhanzi. Nkuko tutigeze kurohama, simbizi. Birashimishije cyane iyo amatsinda ya cascader yafashwe amashusho: umuriro, ibisasu, kurasa ... abahungu, abahungu, ibyo byose byakozwe.
- Mu myaka mike ishize, wimukiye i Moscou wimukira i Mht. Ntabwo ushidikanyaga kwemeza icyemezo nk'iki?
- ntabwo. Nahamagaye itabi ku giti cyanjye. Ni iki gishobora gushidikanya ?! Ariko bwa mbere nigishije gato mugihe cya Kirill Serebrennikov, noneho twarekuye imikorere ya "Okolonol" muri "Tabakcoque", hanyuma habaho "scukags" muri centre ya Gogol. Oleg Pavlovich abibonye, batumiwe mu kiganiro ahita atanga igitekerezo nashoboraga kwanga. Nibyo, kandi muri St. Petersburg, namaze kunanirwa gato, ubwoko runaka bwo kubungabunga bwatangiye kubaho.
Muri "Umusare" Umukinnyi ukina Abrama Schwartz
Ifoto: Kanda Service P / R OEGBAKOVOVA
- Urimo ukina muri Tabakcoque. Ntabwo ari kera cyane, "guceceka" "umusazi" byasohotse n "" intebe "- uko mbibona, ufite akazi keza. By the way, mfite icyo ugereranya na, nabonye iki gikinisho muri mkate hamwe na itabi na doronina ...
"Birashoboka ko utabonye imikorere hamwe na papa muri theatre." Benshi bavuga ko ari "intebe" nziza mu gihugu. Papa yashyinguye mu myitozo, no kubikorwa, nuko nibuka byose neza. Oleg Pavlovich araseka, arambwira ati: "Noneho rero, ndetse rero, hanyuma batangira kongera kwinjiza 'inteko." Nzazana Lesha Muradov wa Muradov kuri uyu musaruro.
- Intwari ifite iherezo ritoroshye. Kandi mubuzima bwawe hari peripe nyinshi. Wavuze ko muvuga ko imiryango ibiri yatakaje kubera akazi.
- Yego, kuko nakundaga gukora numwuga washyize kumutwe winguni. Hariho umuryango - neza, oya - kandi ntukabeho. Kandi ni nde uzabishaka? Nari mfite amaso menshi ahagije, bityo ibintu byose byabaye. Noneho, uko bigaragara, Mana, mfite ibitekerezo bike, byarohamye cyangwa uburambe, kuburyo nahinduye gato ibitekerezo byanjye.
- Mugihe kimwe washakanye kare - imyaka makumyabiri ...
- Birashoboka, nari nkeneye byose, ariko na none akazi kari kabanza. Kwiyamenya ni ngombwa kumuntu, naho umukinnyi ufite ishema - cyane cyane. Niba udashidikanye gutsinda, ukora iki muri uyu mwuga ?! Bose barenze icyubahiro. Ntabwo inyuma yumunuko wa Kulis. Ibi ni: "Baho ubuzima bwinshi" - ubusa, ntabwo ari ukuri. Byibuze mu ntangiriro. Usanzwe noneho wishushanya, uterera igikoresho - hanyuma unyuzwe na tagisi. Kandi nagize amahirwe hamwe na "igikoresho" kubera ubuzima, nkuko nabivuze, ibintu byinshi byabaye, niho kurya.
- Waganiriye no kurengera umwanya wawe umaze kuba ukirimbi. Bite se kuri hyper-kwita no umwanya wawe mumuryango wawe?
- Imana ishimwe, kugeza igihe ikibazo cyavutse, kuko Lena numuntu woroshye cyane. Ntabwo numva namwitayeho. Byasobanukiwe neza aho umwanya wanjye nigihe cyanjye. Ngomba gukora, gushyikirana, kandi mubihe nkibi ntibikubuza. Ibintu byose bitubaho kumugaragaro. Niba ukeneye inama, fasha - Ndamusaba. Cyangwa niba mu buryo butunguranye ndabona ko Lena afite ibibazo bimwe, ndashobora kumubwira ikintu. Ni muri urwo rwego, dufite ubwenge.
- Umukuru wumuryango wowe?
- ku buryo, njye, ariko, nk'ubutegetsi, turagikemura. Nibyo, niba tuvuga ikintu cyisi: kwimuka, guhindura inzu, gusana, kuruhuka, ijambo ryanyuma kuri njye. (Kumwenyura.) Urugero, mfata inzira, na Lena ashinzwe kutavugururwa.
"Intebe" y'intwari yacu yatangiye "kwitoza" mubana. Kuri stage ya theatre p / r o.Abakova
Ifoto: Kanda Service P / R OEGBAKOVOVA
- Ni ubuhe bwoko bw'imirimo yo mu rugo ukunda gukora?
- Gutegura urukundo. Kandi nkunda ibimera, mfite amabara menshi kuri widirishya no kuri bkoni. Bati: "Samurai akwiye gushobora guhinga indabyo, andika ibisigo na nyuma y'imyaka mirongo itatu kugira ngo bita ku buzima bwabo." Iyi ni codex busido. Nagize mubihe bibazo byubuzima karemaze, nashizeho igihe kirekire mubitaro kandi hari kunoza ibiti byibimera. Benshi muribo baba murugo kugeza ubu. Umwe yatoboye amashusho ya SokuUrovsky ya "Data na Mwana". Muri rusange, ibimera byanjye byose ni igishushanyo. Ikintu cyazanywe na minsk, ikintu kiva Kiev, ikintu muri uquateur. Umwe mu baziranye na psychologue ati: "Urakusanya."
- Ibibazo byubuzima byari byemewe?
- Yego, ibintu byose biri murutonde. Nubwo ntaba umuganga, ariko ndumva ko umubiri utwibukanye, arashobora kwigenga. Ukeneye kubyumva gusa. Niba inzozi zirota, bivuze ko umubiri ukora neza, biruhukira, bizimya amatsinda kandi bikavuga ubwabyo. Nkuko Hippocrat yagize ati: "Kugira ngo ukize umubiri, ugomba kuzimya," nkuko ukuboko gumenetse bidatinze.
- Lena ni umunyamategeko - mpuzamahanga. Wahuye he?
- Yagiye mu bitaramo, yakundaga itsinda ryanjye. Twatetse igice kimwe. Nibyo, noneho yari akiri muto, dufite itandukaniro afite imyaka irindwi, noneho ryasaga naho ari byinshi, sinabimenye. Nyuma y'ikizamini cya mushiki wanjye witwa Mushiki wanjye Lisa Savina ku isoko iruhande rwa BDT, nahoraga ndahagarika, nanywa, nanywaga, nigeze guhura na Lena. Kandi yamaze kubitaho. Twarazimiye, trongeye guhura na nyuma yigihe, bamenya ko tudafite.
- Kandi nigute wamwitayeho, wafashe iki?
- Umurava. . Nsanzwe nkunda gutanga impano, kandi ibintu byose byagendaga kumutima. Na Lenka, biragaragara ko nakunze ko nishimye kandi ndishimye. Twahoraga duhumuriza, twumvise ikintu kimwe. Baganiriye cyane.
Muri firime "Amafaranga" Lavrov yagize uruhare runini - faneyari yimpimbano Alexei Bararannikov
- n'ubu?
- Noneho na none, dusuzuma ibintu bitandukanye, tuganira kuri firime, ibitaramo nibintu byose bigoye bibaho kukazi. By the way, murikunze gutekereza ko ibintu byose bigomba gutangazwa. Ninkaho hamwe nabana iyo ubarera. Birumvikana ko nubaha umuntu ushobora kwigumya byose muri we, ariko sindi gutya. Kandi hamwe nabakunzi dukwiye kuvuga byose, uru nurufunguzo ugomba gukoresha. (Aseka.)
- ashishikajwe n'akazi kawe?
- neza. Ahanini ni gahunda, asangira akababaro kanjye n'ibyishimo. Ariko hariho igikoni cyimbere. Birashoboka ko yari kwibaza, ariko kuki yoherezwa? Yigeze areba wenyine akazi kanjye.
- Ikintu gishobora cyane cyane ntigikunda. Noneho iki?
- Ibintu byose bibaho. . Twembi dufite uburenganzira bwo gutora no gutekereza.
- Lena ntabwo agufuhiza umufasha wawe, aracyari kubayindi yisi?
- Ubwa mbere, byanze bikunze. Nigute?! Gusomana nundi mugore muburiri. Ariko yasobanukiwe ubukwe. Umwuga nkuyu, imiterere yumukino.
- Ugomba kuri Lena, bisa nkaho umubano wari kumwe numukinyi umwe ...
- aho ariho, bityo byose birasanzwe. Hariho abayobozi. Ariko bihagije. (Kumwenyura.)
"Ntabwo ugoretse mu bumwe mu bashakanye, tekereza ko ibintu byose byabaye nkibikenewe?"
- Rwose. Ntabwo ku bagore cyangwa ku bakobwa. Ndi muriyi myumvire igitero. Ubuvumo bugumaho, wiyubakira mu rundi ruhande. Muri rusange, ntakintu kibaho kubwamahirwe, birasa kuri njye. N'imibanire n'abo mudahuje igitsina byinshi.
- Ni imyaka ingahe ingingo z'abagabo 'zagushimishije, washakaga kwitaho?
- hakiri kare. Amatariki yagiye amasomo kuva ku wa kane. Birakomeye - no kwishuri, mumashuri yisumbuye. Sinzi ukuntu ari ibyiyumvo byimbitse, ariko inkovu iracyagumye. Kuri iyo myaka, ibintu byose birakaze cyane. Kubwibyo, urukundo rwa mbere (kandi akenshi bibaho ntishimye) kandi rwibukwa. Ashyira umunyamakuru kumuntu.
- Kandi ubukwe muri iki kigo yari igikorwa cyigitsina gabo cyangwa Lychim Boyash?
- Sinzi. Ariko buri gihe nkora inyangamugayo. Kubwibyo, igihe cyose nakunze, natekereje ko hano ari. Noneho nanya mbonaga ko ibyo byabaye ubishaka, byibuze nashakaga gutanga raporo, nagerageje. Ariko ibyabaye, byaragaragaye.
Muri Tragiicomedy "Ubumwe bwa Ragia"
- Ibyo ari byo byose, byaje kumukobwa mwiza. Se wamaranye iki?
- Natahuye ko uyu ari umukobwa wanjye. Kandi papa yashimye umutwe, bari bafite ubuzima bwabo. Nubwo hamwe nuwo mugore, hamwe nuwo mugore, bapfuye cyane mugihe umukobwa yari afite imyaka itatu gusa, ariko inshingano yamaranye na njye. Ntabwo nigeze mtandukana na mbere. Noneho ubu mfite abandi banyandi andi, Marita na Frol, nubwo imfura ni imiterere ya ardic.
- Urabivuze kubyerekeranye nabana, birambone, urashobora kugoreka imigozi ...
- Yego na Oya. Ndabishoboye no gukomeye hamwe nabo. Niba nerekanye gukomera kwintego zanjye, noneho ntajya kurutonde, ntukatontome - ibi birakomeye. Hamwe n'ibyishimo, twarahiye cyane cyane, birarenze mama muri kamere, umuntu ugaragara cyane. Mfite kandi iramba, nuko twagize amakimbirane akomeye. Byabaye, ntabwo namuvugishije igihe kirekire.
- Kandi na Lena, ntabwo byagenze?
- Hamwe na Lenka twari dufite ko dushobora guceceka iminsi ibiri. Ariko mbere yuko ibyago byo gutongana nkibi bitugeraho. Nubwo noneho Lenka ansaba ko mumezi atandatu yambere yubuzima buhuriweho, twabatoweho kenshi kuburyo bananiwe gusa ububiko bwose. (Aseka.) Ariko kuramba kwanjye cyane cyane bireba umwuga cyangwa uko bibaye ngombwa kugirango tugere kubisubizo. Niba nizeye muburyo bwiza bwintego, ntacyo bitwaye Niki, ubwo niteguye gushira cyane.
- Fedya, warengeje umubare wa mirongo ine kandi ufite abana batatu. Urumva uri nyirarume?
- Oya, kuko yari umwangavu, nuko baguma! Nubwo igihe runaka cyabitswe: inkweto za Dr Marteri, Twin Pix numuziki wa Einsturing Neubaute.