Nikita Panfilov: "Kubwurukundo, Nahoraga ntagena!"

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Nikita Panfilov - Umukinnyi utazibagirana, charismatic. "Ubusumbakazi bukomeye", urukurikirane rwinshi "Freeaty", "Ubuzima bwiza", "burya", "imbwa" yerekana ko hamwe n'umuhamagaro we, nubwo yarose kuba umuganga. Icyakora, yatekereje ku kigo cy'incuke kuva mu ishuri cy'incuke - gukundana no kubaho neza ubuzima bwe bwose. Ariko mubukwe bwa gatatu gusa bwarangije kubona icyitegererezo cyumuryango. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".

"NIKITA, benshi muri uyu mwaka bashize mu kato kababaje, kandi wizihije inzu yo mu nzu mu nzu y'igihugu ..."

- Nibyo, narose kuva kera kuba "igicu" no kubaho kwisi murugo rwanjye. Twagize amahirwe yo kugura "agasanduku." Umuntu uwo twabonye akarere yiyubatswe, azanye uwo bashakanye aratungura, aramubwira ati: "Wankuye mu mudugudu ngo usubire mu mudugudu?!" Yagerageje kumwumvisha, ariko ntabwo yemeye kureka umuturage wo mu mujyi, bityo agomba no gushyira umugambi wo kugurisha. Kandi njye n'umugore wanjye twabaye uwambere waje kubitangaza. Twese twateguye. Nari nubatse neza. Inzu ni nziza, nziza-nziza - imfuruka, amatafari, areba amatafari, no imbere tumaze guhimba ibintu byose hamwe na xenia. Ibintu byose byahindutse muburyo bworoshye.

- Nka intwari yawe murukurikirane rwa TV "imbwa"! No mu nzu y'uruhu, amatafari ...

- ntabwo rwose. Intwari yanjye ifite inzu ya se-isomo, hari isomero rinini, ibintu byose byatangijwe, bachelorian Burgrel. Kandi njye n'umugore wanjye twashakaga gutura ahantu runaka ... mu kigo. (Kumwenyura.) Nibura ubu buryo buregereje. Birumvikana, nkuko imyitozo yerekanwe, inzu ni umurima utuje. Ni ngombwa gutura aho guhora, kugirango umuntu byanze bikunze akurikira byose, kandi imbere ... ingorane nyinshi, ariko bahembwa n'ishyamba, ubusitani bwabo bugenda hamwe n'amafi akoresheje ibirenge kandi arya Imbuto ziva mu gihuru. Kandi kayf yahisemo no gutera ibiti byimbuto! Nakoresheje amaboko yanjye, nateye ibiti bya pome, amapera, cheri, cheri, ibikoma, ndetse na walnut ya Manchur.

Nikita Panfilov:

"Nahagurukiye n'ingimbi. Biragoye cyane. Buri gihe muguhangana nishuri, ibigereranyo bibi, Blanche munsi yijisho, Crumpled Tue ..."

Ifoto: Yana Kravtsova (Kozibarod)

- uri mu bugingo bw'umuhinzi.

- Nkunda gucukura hasi, ariko kubera akazi kawe ntabwo buri gihe ukora. Kubwibyo, mu mpeshyi nishimiye iyi minsi mikuru idateganijwe - nahoraga mu rugo, nkina n'umukobwa wanjye. Ariko muri rusange, birumvikana, nta mwuga ufite. Byongeye kandi, iyo ubu ari imibereho yawe imyaka myinshi, kandi wize kugirango uhuza akazi n'umuryango kandi ukababara mugihe wambuwe ikintu kimwe. Nibyiza ko kurasa bivugururwa, "Zab" yakuyeho ibice icyenda, aherutse gushyiraho urukurikirane "Likhach", njye na bandwaye muri uyu mushinga - bategereje bidasanzwe. Kuva kuri Premiriye ndacyashobora guhamagara "igitekerezo cyo kuba umwere" kumuyoboro wa mbere. Reka tuvuge ukuri, hari imishinga nziza yo guceceka, kandi rwose hari agaciro, ntazabura abareba. N'izi muribi. Nishimiye kandi ko ikinamico yasubukuye kwerekana ibitaramo "fiziki" muri theatre nto.

- Yego, kandi iyi niyo mpano ya kabiri uyu mwaka - watumiwe mu matsinda ya theatre nto. Kuri njye mbona atari nka na mht. Chekhov, aho wakoreye imyaka icumi. Biragoye kumenyera muburyo bushya?

- Nabuze ibyabaye kandi nishimye ubwo nahamagaye. Yagezeyo, ahumeka impumuro ya Kolis, yabonye sophytes kandi nkaho hari ikintu cyabonetse. Muri the materi nto, abantu ni abanyamwuga, mu mwuka. Iri ni ishuri rya kera, kandi ndacyari hano mu "Monasiteri y'umunyamahanga", ariko ndumva meze neza.

- Ufite inzozi zerekeye ubugingo bwawe?

"Iyo uri umunyeshuri, noneho urota gukina byibuze ikintu runaka, ndetse n'aho hari umururumba rwose." Iyo twe, abanyeshuri bo mu masomo ya mbere ya Studio ya MCAT, yirukiye mu gitakubiri ku bikorwa, abantu bose bagerageje kuva ku isonga kugira ngo babyine gato kubari bateraniye aho. Ntabwo byari ngombwa kuri twe ko twasohotse inshuro ebyiri gusa n'amagambo "kurya byatanzwe!", Byamenyereye kumva ibyiyumvo byawe kuri stage. Buri mwaka, papa aranshingwa nimugoroba w'amavuko - 29 Mata - yavuye ku munsi wo gusohoka kwa mbere ku mwanya wabigize umwuga. Ariko, guma muri rubanda, ntibishoboka kuba umuhanzi ukomeye. Kubwibyo, nagize amahirwe ko narimo gucuranga muri "Siege" Yevgeny Griskove. Iterambere risaba uruhare. Ariko igihe cyanjye kirekire nyamara ntikirasohora - ni Mitsa Karamazov.

- Kandi nta mubabaro wabaye ku rukuta rumwe? Nubwo bimeze bityo, kumuntu Mht muri Lane ya Lane - Hejuru yumwuga, kandi wahageze hakiri urubyiruko ...

- Yego, dufite abantu batanu gusa mumasomo. Kandi inzira twagize impano, inyenyeri, nkuko babivuga ubu, Antos Vilkova, Anton Vilkova, Anton Magin, Mariana Spivak, Peter Kislov, Ksenia Knyazeva. Byari igihe cyihebye - twaryama amasaha atatu, tugerageza gusubiramo mu bitazi, kandi nahoraga ntinya kugabanyirizwa. (Inseko.) Nta gushidikanya, kwinjira ku bakozi b'ikinamico izwi cyane ni intambwe runaka mu bihe byagenwe. Kandi imyaka irindwi ibintu byose byagenze neza, ariko urutagati runaka rwaremye imyaka itatu ishize, kandi sinigeze mbona igitekerezo cyo kuguma aho. Natemeranya cyane ninteruro ya Luchawa ya Stanislavsky, itabaho inshingano nto - hariho abakinnyi bato. Ntabwo yari afite inshingano nke, kandi, ariko, ariko hari. Kandi umukinnyi arashobora kurimbuka mu nshingano nto, kandi ntibyemewe. Muri ikinamico iganisha, mubindi.

Nikita Panfilov:

"Aurora ni umwamikazi wanjye witonda. Ubwenge, urugwiro. Ntabwo abona nabi kumuntu. Izuba Rirashe"

Ifoto: Yana Kravtsova (Kozibarod)

- Niki, mubitekerezo byawe, guhuza ibintu byiza nuburyo buhoraho muri kano karere? Ntabwo ufite ubucuruzi bwinyongera bwo gukina gusa mubucuruzi gusa.

- Ugomba gushaka ikinyabupfura ugashaka urukundo rwibyo ukora. Mubyukuri kubwamafaranga ntakibazo gishobora kubyemera. Hariho ingero nyinshi mugihe abakinnyi kubwinguzanyo zashyikirijwe "isabune" ndende, kandi kuri ibyo barangije. Hariho ibyago byinshi ko na nyuma y'uruhare rumwe rusa na firime yuzuye cyane umuntu uwo ari we wese umuntu atazatumirwa.

"Ukundwa n'abaturage, ariko ufite ishusho n'ijwi rirerure." Ni ibihe bikorwa bifata ibi?

"Ndi filoyofiya kuri ibi kandi ndatekereza ko ukeneye gukora ahantu hose hagarutse rwose." Kuri ubu, abasirikari babaye ibinini bikomeye, birashimishije. Ni byiza ko uyu wave wasutse uva muri Hollywood no kuri twe. Ndibuka uko ntashobora kuva mu nyandiko ya "Abatsinze" ubwo nanyoherereje. Yaranditswe neza!

- Nasomye ko wowe ubwawe wanditse inyandiko kandi uteganya kurasa film nkumuyobozi, nukuri?

- Yego, kandi niba atari coronavirus, twari tumaze gutamburwa umusaruro.

- Kuberako ibintu nkibi umukinnyi akeneye ubutwari runaka ...

- Ndabyemera. Mu cyifuzo cyanjye cyo gutungana, nongeye kwandika ibikoresho buri batanu. Inyemezabuguzi yakusanyirijwe umwaka urenga - buri nkuru byabaye mubyukuri mubuzima bwanjye, cyangwa mubuzima bwinshuti, abo mukorana. Ntakintu gihimbano. Birumvikana ko amashusho ari rusange, ariko kubintu bijyanye, bifite akamaro.

- Kubireba kwimuka nawe, byumvikana, kuko wavukiye mumuryango uhanga, umuyobozi wa nyoko, papa, papa, na we, Mwarimu, Mwarimu. Mfite imyaka itanu, wamaze gukina Ivan Tsarevich kandi biragoye cyane ko byatekerejweho ubundi buryo usibye siporo, umaze kuba umukandida shebuja wa siporo ...

"Nibyo, mu gihe runaka, nibonaga ubwanjye umuganga ubaga, umupolisi w'imodoka, ariko byose byari bidafite ishingiro."

- Muganga agomba kugira psyche ihamye, kandi urashobora gutambuka ...

- Nkumukinnyi wese. Iki nikibazo cyimyitozo. Ibintu byose bigerwaho nimyitozo. Ni ubuhe gace uzagenda, nk'imico, muri bibaye ngombwa, izateza imbere kandi ikayitsinda. Ahari niba narabaye umuganga ubaga, noneho nagira insphe. Narekuye nkana. Byakoreshejwe gufungwa rwose, ubwoko bwinshi, ariko noneho bwarahindutse neza. Ubuzima kuri ibi bufite - Amatsinda yo kurasa ahora ahinduka, itumanaho numuntu munini wabantu bibaho buri munsi.

Nikita Panfilov:

"Mw'isi yanjye, hagomba kubaho umuntu utegereje kandi uwo ngomba kwizera birarakaye. Iyi ni umunezero wanjye"

Ifoto: Yana Kravtsova (Kozibarod)

- Wavuze inshuro nyinshi ko ugomba guhindura licor nukuri uri inshuti zawe gusa. Kubera iki?

- Reka njye, abantu bose barabikora: hamwe na Boss uri umuntu umwe, murugo hamwe numwana - undi, hamwe nababyeyi - icya gatatu. Kandi inshuti zo mu bwana ziranzi nkaho zirakaye, bityo rero ni ibicucu bitwazaho.

- Ihame, ntabwo abantu bose bagumana ubucuti bwimyaka ya mbere ...

"Kandi nkunda iyo abantu banze igihe kinini cyane kandi ndashobora kwizera." Aba ni bagenzi bakuru, ingabo.

- Winjiye cyane mu rugamba rw'Abagereki n'Abaroma, ndetse no ku ishuri ry'ishuri rya Olempike ... wagize ubwana bwa kure?

Nta gushidikanya. Ariko uburangare bwarangije rwose cyane igihe nari umwangavu, mu cyiciro cya cyenda, ku nama y'umutoza wanjye yagiye mu ishuri rya siporo.

- Biragaragara, ushobora kuba nyampinga ya Olempike?

- Ntabwo bishoboka, ariko ninde ubizi. Ntabwo nari umufana mwiza wa siporo. Ikigaragara ni uko yahoraga yangaga monotony mu mwuga ku bukorikori bwa buri munsi. Abantu bahoraho n'ahantu ni ikintu kimwe, ni inyuma, kandi ibyabaye bigomba guhinduka. Guhanga bigomba kuba bihari, bitamubayeho birarambiranye. Kandi nta gihinduka muri siporo no guhanga: umunsi kuwundi uri mu kiti kimwe, mucyumba gisanzwe, kuri tapi imwe ikora tekinike ... gusa ibyagezweho birashobora guhinduka.

- Kandi kuri nyamara wamenyereye abakiri bato, birashoboka ko wibyet ibitekerezo, sibyo?

- Ikintu nyamukuru, ntabwo nabonye gukora nkumwuga. Kuri njye, byahoze ari imyidagaduro, kwishimisha. Nabonye sekuru hamwe na nyirakuru yabonye amafaranga menshi, kandi byasaga naho ari uko akazi kari kameze igihe bigoye kandi inzu gasubiye ananiwe. Ariko umunsi umwe nasanze ushobora guhuza ibyo ukunda akazi. Ababyeyi baranshigikiye, nubwo byagaragaye ko iyi sikoti itaryo ryoroheje, hamwe nubunararibonye bwabo, ibibazo byabo. Muri mirongo itangira, urugamba rukomeye rwa data rwashimangiraga amaso yanjye ku ngoro y'umuco, abiyobora. Twifuzaga gutunganya Casino aho, kandi, ubuzima bwo kwigomwa, yatsinze abaturage. Kandi kugeza ubu muri KC "umwubatsi" mukarere ka Kunsevsky, abana, nkanjye, jya mubintu bitandukanye. Ibi birasa kandi rwose papa. Kubwamahirwe, amazu menshi yumuco mumurwa mukuru yarasenyutse, hariho bake cyane.

- biragaragara ko hamwe nababyeyi murabyemereye rwose. Burigihe rero?

- Nakangisha ingimbi. Birakomeye cyane. Buri gihe muguhangana nishuri, ibigereranyo bibi, hamwe na blanche munsi yijisho, hamwe nigishushanyo cyayitoje cyacitse, huzuye igishushanyo mbonera ... dore mukuru wanjye Ilya yari afite inshingano. Yagiye kuba igisirikare. Ubu ni umuhanzi ufite impano, umufotozi. Kandi, muri trans, niwe wanshizeho ishyaka ryo gusoma, kunguka ubumenyi. Kimwe cya kabiri cy'ibyo nzi - ndamushimira. Ndarambuye inyuma, urebye ibyo, yakemuye amashusho inyuma ye ...

- Ufite urukundo runaka rw'akaga. Warinzwe, usenge moto, urubura, gusiganwa ku rubura, gukora ibyuma "ku muyoboro" ku muyoboro "...

- Nkeneye, kandi nhora nshaka kugerageza ikintu gishya. Kandi muriyi gahunda gusa niboneye ibintu byose byashyizwe mumubiri wimodoka ya Hilux. Ikintu nakunze byinshi, ikintu gito, ariko cyari kinini - dore, kugenda, kugenda, kuguruka. Na bonus ebyiri superfrofa yatojwe ahantu hose. Rero, kuri gare yo kumusozi - kuri mondo yo kumusozi, hamwe nanjye hari uwatsinze, nyampinga w'amoko menshi. Biragaragara ko kumasomo abiri udashobora gukurwa kuri Master the tekinike yose, ariko ibuka ibihe byingenzi byukuri. Ndibuka, byabaye ngombwa ko tubabaza ku musozi, kandi yanyigishije kureba metero icumi imbere, kandi ntabwo ari ku ruziga rw'imbere, mu gihe yavuye muri feri. Wizere ko bitoroshye. Ku nsimburana kundeba, nagishije kandi nyampinga, kandi ngomba kuvuga ko ibyo na byo byari byagenze neza. Kimwe na moto yimuka nanyuzemo kumusozi.

Nikita Panfilov:

"Nyuma yo gutandukana, ninjiye mu mva yose ndabyumva: birangiza. Sinigeze ngumana n'umukobwa kugeza mu gitondo - yumvaga umwanda"

Ifoto: Yana Kravtsova (Kozibarod)

- ukunda ikiruhuko gikora?

- Ahubwo, guhuza ibikorwa nubunebwe. Ntibishoboka buri munsi mubiruhuko kugirango ukore ukurikije gahunda, nko kukazi. Twagiye rero muri Jeworujiya, kandi, birashoboka, ntaho bihuriye, ibyo twasuye byose. Kubera iyo mpamvu, twarambiwe, kandi ibintu byose byarumiwe mumutwe. Erega burya, burahanaguwe kandi niba ari byinshi ako kanya. Nibyiza kubaho mukiruhuko muburyo butinda, nta mwobo, shimishwa nigihe cyubusa, kwimuka ahantu hatari kurutonde, ariko aho byose bizibukwa.

- Kimwe numukinnyi, birashoboka ko wigeze wumva witondera igice cyiza cyikiremwamuntu ...

- Mu bwana, abantu bose bavuze ko ndi mwiza, ariko sinakoresheje ibisobanuro. Ariko umwangavu yari asanzwe ari ikibuno, akubiye mu bukorikori, nahinduye ijwi ... ariko byahoraga byashyizweho urukundo, mugushakisha umuryango mwiza kuva mumyaka itanu.

Ati: "Noneho uri mubyukuri urukundo, nubwo akenshi ukina nabasinike.

- Nibyiza, uruhare rwatanzwe hashingiwe kubigaragara. Kandi romantike, nukuvuga, kimwe no mu "nzira", nari mbere. Ubu yarahindutse.

- Ukurikije amagambo yawe, uba uri plash rwose. Nzabisoma, ariko gahunda yo kwiyubarwa numukobwa wimyaka ibiri numuhungu wimyaka irindwi ntabwo aribyo byose. Urabyemera?

- Rwose. Mfite igitekerezo cyanjye kuri ibi. Nzi neza ko Umwana agomba kurera se, umukobwa we. Biragaragara ko ababyeyi bombi bategekwa kwitabira inzira, ariko umwana gusa, abagore barera, ntibashobora gucuranga byinshi, kandi birashobora gukina byinshi mugihe kizaza. Papa ku butegetsi bw'Umwana, agomba no guhana, niba bikenewe, kandi ukomeze aho bibaye ngombwa. Abasore ni imvange iturika, dinamite, igomba kubuza, kandi nimbaraga gusa za Data. Ariko umukobwa agomba kuba umukobwa wa se, uwo ukunda, hanyuma ejo hazaza azamura abo mudahuje igitsina, kandi ntagushidikanya ko umugabo ari mwiza kandi muri rusange ari meza, meza kwisi. Muri icyo gihe, ibibazo byingenzi hamwe na we bigomba gukemura neza nyina, no kwerekana uburemere harimo. Kuri njye mbona bikwiye.

- Umwana mukuru mu myizengire ya kabiri ukunze kubona?

- Nta kubwamahirwe. Iyi ni ingingo irwaye. Nyuma yo gutandukana, ntitugirana umubano na nyina, kandi simbishobora kuvugana nibintu byiza nkuko nshaka. Yoo, iyo ababyeyi batandukanije, abana bababara, bahinduka ibitsitara.

- Wabivuze, kuko byaje gukunda patronymic?

- Yego. Umukobwa yakiriye izina rya Aurora, kuko yavukiye hafi umuseke, nk'inyenyeri yo mu gitondo.

- Umuhungu akunda? Urasa ahagaragara na we?

- Yakoraga umupira, chess. Kandi Dobrynya ni nto cyane - kuva kumurongo wumusatsi kugeza kumpapuro zinyamanswa. Ukurikije imiterere, ni umurwanyi ndabona, aruma kandi ururimi mugihe ashushanya umwete ... kandi dufite gusobanukirwa neza na we.

- Kandi aurora igaragaza ite?

- Ni umwamikazi witonda. Ubwenge, urugwiro. Vuba aha, twahugurukiye kuruhukira mu nyanja, nuko amwenyura mu ndege yose mu ndege, yegera abantu kugira ngo amenyereye, kuvuga. Ntabona ikibi mu muntu uwo ari we wese. Sinzi, nibyiza cyangwa bibi, ariko ni izuba ryukuri. Kandi umukinnyi wa filime isanzwe. By the way, murumuna na ba murumunawe birasa cyane, haba hanze kandi imbere. Dobrynya yabonye ifoto ya aurora. Nizere ko vuba bazazirana.

Ati: "Ikigaragara ni uko uri se ufite inshingano - kandi witabira kubyara, no mu ngorane zo mu rugo hamwe n'abana barimo ...

- Nigute dushobora gutandukana ?! Ibi bimaze guhinduka. Nigeze kugira umwe, mu kindi gihugu, kandi iyo umwana w'umuntu arira inyuma y'urukuta, asimbukira ku mashini akajya mu mwijima, ndetse akamenya ko ari kure y'umuryango.

- uri umuntu wumuryango ...

- Ndi inyana, kandi iki kimenyetso cya zodic yibanze cyane kucyari cyayo. Tugarutse mu ishuri ry'incuke, nasezeranije ko nyina arongora. Gusa mumuryango numvise byimazeyo. Nyuma yuko gutandukana kwambere binjiye mu mva yose kandi baremeza ko byangirije. Sinigeze mva mu mukobwa kugeza mu gitondo, numvise umwanda. Mw'isi yanjye, hagomba kubaho umuntu utegereje kandi uwo nshobora kwizera kubera ingwate, nanone nabihishe. Ngiyo umunezero wanjye.

Nikita Panfilov:

"Ubuhemu, bitandukanye n'amagambo ateye ubwoba n'ibikorwa by'ibicucu, ntushobora kubabarira. Niba ari ngombwa kugenda. Niba bababariye, hanyuma wongere usubiremo".

Ifoto: Yana Kravtsova (Kozibarod)

- Uwo mwashakanye wa gatatu - Ksenia, yagiye kuri Petero, atera ikigo cy'ubuvuzi. Uravuga ko hari intangiriro yo guhanga muri yo, ibi bivuze iki?

- Umugore azi uburyo bwo kubona impirimbanyi. Kandi ni kinini ko atari umukinnyi wa filime, ariko ukomoka mu muryango w'abaganga. Nyoko-nyirabukwe ni zahabu - ibintu byose bizi kubyerekeye indwara, azakira umuntu. Ikigaragara ni uko iyo umukinnyi umwe mumuryango, hashize imyaka ijana yiganje, amenyereye kwerekana ko aribyiza, bityo rero uku gushobora gushobora gufata nta makimbirane. Iyi ni kamere idasanzwe, kubera ubuzima bwa bagenzi banjye benshi mubukwe butatu cyangwa bune. Mubice bihuza ubuzima. Kandi iyo abakinnyi babiri babana imyaka myinshi - ibi nibimenyetso byerekana ko bamvikanye bashidikanya ku nkombe kubintu bimwe byo gufunga amaso.

- Ariko Ksenia yagerageje ubuhanga bwawe kuri we - yakinnye mubice muri "PSE", muri "gushonga". Byari gahunda?

- Rwose. Yatsinze ingero, namujyanye na we. Yari afite amatsiko cyane.

- Biragaragara, ugomba kwigisha urufatiro runaka mubice byose byubuzima: haba ku burere bw'abana, ndetse no mu mibanire y'igorofa. Noneho mbwira, ariko nka nyuma yubugambanyi, subiza ikizere muri wewe, icyizere ku isi ...

- dukeneye gusa kwisobanura wenyine ko byahemukiye uyu muntu byumwihariko, kandi byose bizaba byiza mugihe uhuye nuwawe. Kandi iyo iyi nama ibaye, ukundana kandi witeguye guhura. Ariko ubuhemu, bitandukanye n'amagambo atangaje, ibikorwa bimwe byubupfu, ntibishobora kwibagira muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose - birakenewe guhitagenda. Niba ubabariye, bazahitamo ko byose bishobora gusubirwamo. Byanze bikunze. Kubwibyo rero ugomba gushyira ingingo, nubwo byababaza gute. Kandi mubyukuri, nari kuba narabikoze kurongora nta masezerano yubukwe.

- Mubukwe bwe ubu, wanzuye?

- ntabwo. Ariko muri rusange, birasa nkaho ari ngombwa. Birasobanutse, ntabwo bitangaje nk'urugero, mu byerekezo byarabu, igihe umugore we yaguzwe n'ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose - amazu, imyenda, imyambaro, ndetse kugeza igihe izamuka mu myambarire y'ubukwe. Birumvikana ko ubumuntu, ariko ni ngombwa. Mu ntangiriro ni hari ukuntu biteye isoni kugirango utange, hanyuma uruma inkokora, kuko usanzwe utandukanije, kandi hamwe nundi byiteguye kugukuraho, kandi bigomba gusuzumwa. Ndavuga nkurikije amakosa yanjye. Ariko uyumunsi namaze kungutse ibyo naharanira, kandi ndishimye.

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