Sergey Ugrmomov numwe mu bakinnyi bayobera bo mu gihugu cyacu. Kandi si kuko ari muto ibye Uretse, aho yavukiye, yize n'ibyo afite abahungu babiri, ariko kuko atari neza, kuva aho aba iboshye, ni ibyo: umwete, soft, y'ibanga cyangwa gucibwa nigikonoshwa kandi burigihe kandi burigihe gifunze kandi ahantu hose ibuza. Intwari zayo ntizisobanutse, ziyoboye kabiri, cyangwa numukino wa gatatu, akenshi utera imbere. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
"Sergey, mu mpera z'igihe wakinnye higgins muri premiere ya Oleg Tabatov's Theatre Theatre" umudamu wanjye mwiza. " Higgins, kubishyira mubyo, ntabwo ari umuntu woroshye cyane hamwe na egoist nini mu itumanaho. Nawe?
- Umuntu wese ufite impano arangwa nibikorwa bimwe bidasanzwe, kandi muri rusange, abantu bafite impano basanzwe batanze ubukana muganira mubuzima busanzwe bwo murugo. Birumvikana ko ari egoist. Na none, kimwe nimpano, byibanda kubintu runaka. Buri gihe nibaza umuntu utwara. High rero, higgins itwara ubucuruzi bwe. Kandi kuri njye, akazi nicyo cyingenzi. Birumvikana ko abantu ba hafi bababara. Kandi ndashobora kuvuga kuri njye ko ndi eoist, rimwe na rimwe kugeza byinshi, rimwe na rimwe muri bito. Ndarwana nibi, ariko hamwe no gutsinda. (Umwenyura.) Imikorere yacu kuri metamorphose irashobora kubaho kubantu bavumwe bimwe, cyangwa ubuntu bwitwa urukundo.
- "Umukecuru wanjye mwiza" nindi nkuru ya mwarimu numunyeshuri. Wanjiye kandi mu nama n'abayobozi beza no mukinana, no muri firime ...
- Yego, ariko cyane cyane - hamwe nabafatanyabikorwa. Kuri njye ni ngombwa cyane. Twaganiriye numuyobozi, kandi ubundi buzima bwo gukina nubucuruzi bwacu bumaze, ibyanjye nabafatanyabikorwa, nuburyo dukorana, gutsinda. Kandi sinema ninkuru yihariye.
- Urimo kumvira byoroshye? Umukinnyi nyuma ya byose, umuntu utunzwe. NK'Ubutegetsi, Genda kumuyobozi cyangwa ukunda gutanga ibyawe, kumva igitekerezo cyawe?
- Nubwo bimeze bityo, mubyukuri, abantu bubaka, sinshaka kurimbura. Kandi icy'ingenzi - Nkunda umwuga wanjye, kandi na we, mbona, guhanga cyane. Kubwibyo, mubyukuri, ngira ntekereza ko ari ngombwa gukurikiza umuyobozi.
- Wakoranye na Sergey Ursulak muri firime "iseswa" na "ISAEV". Njye mbona, guhura nawe buri gihe ari umunezero kandi nibyishimo kurubuga, kandi ukurikije ibisubizo byiza ...
- neza. Sergey Vladimirovich yibye cyane bivuga umwuga ukora kandi uhore azi icyo ashaka. Kubwibyo, ndabyemera hamwe no guhitamo abahanzi muri imwe cyangwa indi shusho. Niba kandi atantumiye ngo mfate umwanzuro, sinshobora no gutekereza kurakara. Ariko muri firime no kubayobozi ntabwo aribyo byose biterwa. Hano hari umukoresha, kwishyiriraho ... Ntabwo niyo ikoti irashobora kwangiza urubanza. Byinshi byo gutsinda, kandi rimwe na rimwe birateganijwe, nkuko, ariko, muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose. Ahari byose, ariko ikintu cyingenzi ntikizabaho. Hariho ingero nyinshi, nko kugoreka, iyo ntakintu cyashushanyaga intsinzi, ahita araza.
"Nahamagaye abantu ntitwese gusa, ahubwo ndarira. Umwe mu banyamweniye natinyaga n'ingurube, yaramutinyaga cyane. Kandi natize reaction ye"
Ifoto: Philip Reznik
- formula yo gutsinda ntabwo ishoboka rwose?
- sibyo. Kubwamahirwe, kandi birashoboka cyane. Mugihe ibintu byose byavukiye mubabazwa kandi mu buryo butunguranye biragaragara, ufite ibitekerezo bitandukanye rwose bitandukanye nibyo mugihe utsinze. Igitangaje gitanga ibyiyumvo bikomeye.
- Gukora Studio ya Theatre cyangwa tumaze kwinjira mu kigo, wagereranyaga kuri stage cyangwa warose kuri firime ahanini bizana icyamamare?
- Birampangayikishije byibuze. Nkumwana, nari mfite amatsiko ibyiyumvo nabonye, mbona uko abantu bitwara induru. Dore bacillus, banyinjiye, Imana ishimwe, nabonye kwigira umuntu mu mwuga.
- mwese mwatangiriye hamwe nabana. Uri ku ishuri, ndetse no mu basore b'inzandiko bateye abasore bateje ibitwenge. Ni iki yaguhaye, kuki wabikoze?
- Ntabwo nashoboye kumva ibyo, sinashobora kubategura ubwanjye, kuki mbikora. Kandi munzira, ntabwo nateje reaction gusa, ahubwo ko atari amarangamutima atandukanye, harimo amarira. Mu ishuri ry'incuke, natinyaga guhuza n'ingurube y'inyanja, yaramutinyaga cyane. Kandi uko atwara byaranshimishije. Iyo habaye umuntu mukuru, birumvikana ko "habaye" byari bimaze kubamo. Byongeye kandi, yamenyereye kandi n'abantu bajugunywe muri stage, nuko, muri ubwo buryo, byose byari bimeze kuvuga Oleg, ni ukuvuga ko yibasiye icyerekezo cyiza.
- Iyo umuyobozi wubuhanzi wa Studio Studio "Romantike" rimma Mimmailovna Taranenko yakugiriye inama yo kwinjira mu kigo cy'ikinamico, wahise umwizera?
- Ntabwo natekereje. Nabwiwe nti: "Genda, kandi woroshye kandi wizeye ko gushidikanya bitavutse, ni mu buhe buryo bwo gukomeza.
- Kuvuga kuri stage, umaze kumva neza, gukundwa, wenda no mubarimu?
- Mu mirongo yacu, kuva kuri stage, kuba mu ishusho runaka, nshobora kugura byinshi mubijyanye nabarimu. Byari bifitanye isano ryambere ubwabo hamwe nuburyo. Nahagaritse. Rero, birashoboka rero, ikintu cyingenzi cyararezwe, cyane cyane kubantu bahanganye, kumva ibipimo, gusobanukirwa aho ushobora gutera hejuru binyuze mumico imwe, kandi aho bidashoboka. Umwarimu yari yicaye imbere yanjye, ariko nagize kwirwanaho - ishusho, mask. Kandi basobanukiwe ko kuri stage ntabwo navuze na gato, nubwo nakwibutse umudendezo wanjye kuri stage. (Aseka.) Igihe cyo guhuza nabareba, aya marangamutima yari ikintu kidasanzwe kuri njye. Sinashoboraga guhitamo amagambo kuri ibi byumviro kuri iyi myumvire, kandi byari uguhana no mutuelle.
- Wari uzi ibyerekeye kubaho kw'ishuri rya Schukinsky na Kazan. Kandi ntibyabaye ku mutwe ko i Moscou, birashoboka, hariho kaminuza nyinshi?
Ati: "Oya, hari ukuntu nahise bibanda kandi ndayifashe, kimwe n'inkoni ebyiri zo kuroba. Umwe muri Kazen, habaye urushyi, ndakururaho.
- Biragaragara, bakora byose neza, kandi i Moscou baje vuba vuba. Ni hehe kandi ninde ushaka, wamaze kumva?
- Ntabwo natekereje kubintu byose kubintu byose. Kandi ntacyo nzi. Yakiriwe mu mwaka wa kabiri, ku buryo bw'inyongera ya studio ya MCAT. Ntabwo nibuka rwose, ariko nagize imyumvire - nzagenda rwose. Icyemezo cyari kinini. Birashoboka, iyo bitanyuze, kandi byabifata kumwaka wa gatatu, hanyuma, kuko namaze kubyumva ko ari ibyanjye. Byanze cyane nkaho nemerewe kureba itabi. Ishami ryose ryatoranijwe abantu umunani, kandi babiri muri bo - Jye na Mariash SCHULZ - Ku giti cye Oleg Palyki.
- Ni ibihe bitekerezo byasize noneho, ibuka?
- Yabaye igihe cyose cyakosowe ahantu runaka. Ariko, nubwo yari agenda, ntabwo yari bigoye guhagarara no kwitonda, mu buryo burambuye, nubwo nubwo nubwo nubwo asa numugabo utamenyereye rwose. Ni ko byari kumwe nanjye. Gusa twamusanze muri koridor. Nyuma yaho, nta murimo we, cyangwa inshingano yafashe, ntazigera amubuza kubona umuntu mu muntu, nubwo byamugora. Buri gihe ahindura ikibazo cyikibazo, akabikora vuba, ahita afata icyemezo. Buri gihe yampumuye. Kandi igihe kirekire, kugeza igihe tumaze kuba hafi, yari ishembero kuri njye, ritunguranye ryabaye hafi yimpamvu. Hanyuma nasanze ko akiri umuteguro mwiza n'umuntu mwiza cyane afite uburemere bukomeye: Yajyanye abantu muri orbit - hanyuma bahitana igihe kirekire, inzira ye, bakomeza umurimo we. Noneho birasa nkaho ntamuntu uri iruhande rwacu, ariko ibyo byose, ntamuntu wahagaritse amategeko ya Itertia - nubucuruzi bwe bubaho.
"Oleg Pavlovich Tobakov yampamagaye rimwe na rimwe umuhungu we. Uyu ni umuntu unsobanura kuri njye kuruta ababyeyi"
Ifoto: Philip Reznik
- Byarakugoye igihe atabikoze?
- Noneho biragoye, kuko iyo bivuye mubice byingenzi biva mumwanya winshi, ubu busa ntibushobora guhita gusenyuka, umwobo urebye. N'ubunini bunini bw'umuntu, ubwumvikane. Ntekereza ko iyi vacuum irumva igihe kinini nyuma yo kumwitaho.
- Mugihe cyo kwiga, wabaye ikibazo, kwiheba byagaragaye?
- Kandi ninde udafite? Kwiga ikomeje kugeza na nubu. Niba wanditse muri diploma - umuhanzi, ntibisobanura ko ushobora gukora byose. Ugomba, birumvikana ko witegure byose kandi ubashe gushobora bose, ariko mubyukuri bizanwa nubunararibonye. Muri theatre waguye mubindi, ntabwo na gato bisa nitsinda ryabanyeshuri - kandi intambwe nshya itangira mubuzima. Kandi muri iki kigo nari mfite igihe cyose, igihe Oleg Pavlovich yazaga mu kizamini cyangwa ari ngombwa kumwereka umurimo runaka. Cyangwa igihe abanyeshuri bigana birukanwe. Byasaga nkaho byari kurenganya, kandi bicisha bugufi, kugirango usobanukirwe. Birumvikana ko rero ntitumva icyo nashakaga kuvuga kuri uyu cyangwa uriya munyeshuri kandi ni izihe nshingano yafashe aramutse avuye mu mugabo ugiye gukuramo. Kubwibyo, harahinda umushyitsi, kandi ubwoba bwagwiriye gutinya ukuri kw'intambwe za mbere mu mwuga, ntabwo buri gihe ibihaha.
- Kandi wibuke ishimwe rya mbere?
"Nabikoze gusa, habayeho kwerekana umurimo wa mbere wakazi wigenga, kandi Vasisuali Lohankin yavuye mu" inyana ya zahabu "yamushishikarije. Nanjye. (Aramwenyura.) Mu gihe cy'inyigisho ze, ntabwo yanshimye cyane.
- Ababyeyi bawe bafashe bate ishyaka ryabana bawe?
- Mama ntabwo yerekanye amarangamutima adasanzwe, yashishikarije amasomo yanjye, yishimiye ko ntariruka kumuhanda. Ariko sinshobora kuvuga ko yishimiye ibyo nakoraga muri uru ruziga. Na papa ntibabyanze. Bararakaye gusa ubwo navugaga ko ntazajya mu ishuri rya gisirikare, ahubwo ni mu kiganiro.
- Ariko ntiwagubujije. Muri rusange, ushobora kukubuza?
"Imana iramuzi ko icyo gihe bari mu mitwe yabo." Muri icyo gihe, data na so yagize iyo mibanire ko yasobanukiwe: Ndamaze kwerekana ibimenyetso by'umugabo, ni ukuvuga ko nashinzwe ibyavuzwe, kandi ndamutse mfata umwanzuro, kandi niba mfata icyemezo, bivuze ko atari nk'ibi. Kandi yubahwa kubijyanye n'icyemezo cyanjye, ariko nyina yarwanye. Yamuregereye igihe cyose, impamvu andeka. Ariko se yaravuze ati: "Nibagende, bazakoresha amafaranga bagaruke."
- Nzi ko papa wawe yari igisirikare. Ninde wakoze mama?
- Gufungura ibikoresho mu bitaro bya gisirikare. Ariko we, nkumureba, yakundaga firime na theatre cyane. Kandi yari umuntu wamarangamutima cyane, yari afite byose: kandi aseka, ararira.
- Imyaka mirongo itatu yabuze data, Mama mbere. Yabashije gufata intsinzi yawe ya mbere?
- ntabwo. Yari azi ko ndi i Moscou, nkora mu nzu y'ikinamico, ntuye mu icumbi. Cinema muri iyo myaka ntabwo yari, kandi imikorere ya mbere ikomeye yari "bumbarash" ("ishyaka kuri bumbarash". - Hafi. ETNAT.), Ariko ntibabibonye. Papa ntiyigeze ambona kuri stage na gato. Ingabo zimwe na zimwe zatangiye, ariko yarishimye ibi, byari bouncer (kumwenyura), yakundaga kunshimira. Igihe yagumye wenyine, yamugoye, natangiye kumujugunya amafaranga, ariko biragaragara ko namenye ko namaze kwigobora ibirenge, kandi biratuje rwose. Twizere ko yanyishimiye.
- Tumaze kugera kumyaka yababyeyi, uramwigira muri wewe, mu ngego, mubindi?
- neza. Bitabimenye bite? Sinshobora kuvuga byumwihariko mubyo, ariko ndabimenya.
- Wavuze ko papa yari bikomeye, kandi nigute wareze abana bawe?
- nanone. Ariko hamwe no guhindura ko numvaga mu bwana bwanjye igihe nahaniraga. Kandi mugihe runaka kikamenya ko nkuko Data atabikora.
- Usanzwe wigisha muri kaminuza ...
"Ndumiwe cyane ku nyigisho zanjye, kandi Oleg Palyki arabivuga." Nabyemeye, kuko ku nshuro ya gatatu nari nsanzwe twanze nabi. Ariko "kwigisha" biravugwa cyane, kuko mfite akazi gakomeye muri theatre ubu, kandi umwanya munini ukeneye gukorana nabanyeshuri. Nsangiye uburambe, ahubwo ibi birashobora kwitwa ubujyanama.
- Utekereza ko igisekuru gikiri gito cyabakinnyi kimwe nubwawe, cyangwa bitandukanye rwose?
- Muburyo bumwe busa, kandi mubintu hari itandukaniro rinini. Bafite impungenge mbi, kuko batagomba guhagararira mu bwana ko inkoni ari imbunda, bafite pistolet, kandi itandukanye. Aribyo, mu bwana, abafana bavutse kandi ubutunzi bwisi yimbere irangizwa. Nabo - kubice byinshi - ubwana bufite umutekano, butagira impungenge. Kandi bafite amasezerano mabi kubitumanaho. Inzandiko, imbuga nkoranyambaga ... kuri theatre, muri rusange irasenya, kuko hano ari ngombwa ko tuvugana mu buryo butaziguye. Ariko bagenda cyane, guhuza ikintu turimo mumyaka yabo.
- erudite?
- Naho ibi, natongana, eRodition yabo ahubwo ni hejuru. Ariko ntabwo ari amakosa yabo, ahubwo ni ababyeyi. Kandi heasury Mwaramutse "Umunyabwenge" ukomoka muri Minisiteri y'Uburezi, Abavugurura ku misozi bishwe muri mirongo ine, nubwo bahindura gahunda zidatunganye, ariko baracyazana ibisubizo byabo. Noneho, n'imyaka mirongo itatu ni imirwano, ndashobora rwose gutanga ikintu na kimwe.
- Wavuze ko wavuze ko bakuze hakiri kare bitewe nuko nta babyeyi. Usanzwe uba mukuru kandi kabiri hamwe na Data, urumva ko udahagije?
- neza. Mugihe ababyeyi ari bazima, uri umwana. Kandi bakimara kugenda, uba uwanyuma muriyi mirongo. Hariho gusobanukirwa no gusobanukirwa ko utakiri umuhungu kandi ntawe uzaguhamagara. Nubwo Oleg Palych rimwe na rimwe yitwa. (Aseka.) Ariko ntabwo yambwiye gusa. Uyu ni umuntu unshaka kuri njye rwose kuruta ababyeyi banjye banzanye kugeza aho. Orog Palych yagize uruhare runini ibyambayeho ubu, mubuzima bwanjye bwa none, nko muri benshi muri twe, abayoboke be. Volodeya Mashkov ni umwe muri abo.
- Wakoranye na Vladimir Mashkov hamwe no hejuru ya "bumbarash", hanyuma muri MHT hejuru yibikorwa "№13" na "№13d". Ariko rero ntabwo yari umuyobozi wubuhanzi. Noneho umubano wawe wahindutse?
- Duherutse gukora "guceceka kwa salo" none gukinira hamwe. Kandi igihe kinini cyafashwe na film ye "papa". Ntekereza ko volodya ntabwo yahindutse cyane. Oya, birumvikana ko hariho impinduka zimwe, ariko umuntu wese utuye kandi ahinduka. Mu kintu yoroheje, mubintu bigoye. Nimwe nifata, ahantu, muburyo bunyuranye, ndavuga ko nkeneye ko ari ngombwa. Ni muri urwo rwego, ntakibazo dufite.
- Wishimiye iyo ayoboye ikinamico?
- Yego cyane. Ntekereza ko ibi ari byiza kuri theatre yacu.
- Niki kibera na firime yawe ubu? Ufite ibyifuzo bishimishije?
- Noneho hari ikinamico myinshi. Hama hariho gahunda muri firime, ariko birashobora kumeneka igihe icyo aricyo cyose. Kubwibyo, sinzavuga. Ikinamico nikintu gikomeye. Mubihe bigoye cyane, muri Nanies, nagumye mu mwuga ndabishimira gusa. Mfite uru rukingo - kubaho nta cinema. Ndumva ko ikinamico ari icyambu, aho nshobora gutegereza ibihe byose biruka.
Ati: "Nkeneye bike mu buzima bwa buri munsi, ntabwo ndi umuntu uruhara, ntabwo ndimo imyambarire, sinzi kuruhuka. Rimwe na rimwe sinkunda kurya ibiryo biryoshye, ariko nkunda cyane.
Ifoto: Kanda Service Moscow Theatre P / R O. WATABAKOVA
- Muri Nanieties, ufite ibihagije kugirango ubeho muri theatre cyangwa hari ahantu runaka?
- Umunyeshuri yakoze byinshi, kandi mukinana - ntakiriho. Ntabwo amafaranga ahagije, ariko yari Santa Slaus gusa mumwaka mushya.
- Urashobora guhitamo imishinga muri firime gusa ibishimishije kuri wewe? Ntubangamire amafaranga, arahagarara?
- Ibintu byose bibaho muburyo bwose. Uyu ni umwuga wanjye. Birumvikana ko agomba kuzana umunezero wo guhanga, ariko niba mbona ko ntazabigeraho hano, noneho ikibazo kivuka kubyerekeye amafaranga, kubyerekeye indishyi. Ariko muri rusange, nkeneye bike mubuzima bwa buri munsi, ntabwo ndi umuntu uruhara, ntabwo ndimo agaciro, nanjye sinzi kuruhuka. Rimwe na rimwe nkunda kurya neza, ariko ndabikunda iyo ari ibyokurya byoroshye.
- Umuntu wo mu bakinnyi nko kwicara hamwe n'inkoni y'uburobyi, umuntu agenda, kandi bite kuri wewe no guhinduranya?
- Niba ushoboye, jya kubagenzi inshuti kumubarutse Voga, gusa ntugava muri Moscou. Naragenze cyane hamwe na theatre. Ubwa mbere, ibyo byose byari mubitangaje, nashimishijwe kandi, ariko bidatinze, ariko bidatangira kumva ko mucyumweru nigice nari namaze kunyurwa nibitekerezo byawe kandi ndashaka gutaha.
- Kandi mu gihugu, mu burasirazuba bwa kure, hashize igihe kinini? Nta bene wabo basigaye aho?
- kuva kera. Hasigaye bene wabo gusa. Ibi biri muri Kamyshina, aho twabanaga nyuma, nta muntu n'umwe. Kandi mu burasirazuba bwa kure na barumuna ba kabiri, na Adan, nyirarume ni. Dushyigikiye umubano nabo. Ndashaka rwose kujyayo. Gusa umwanya, biragoye gutunganya, ukeneye igisubizo cyihariye.
- Nigute ushobora gushyigikira sisitemu yawe ifite ubwoba? N'ubundi kandi, umwuga urarengana cyane ...
- gutekereza. Nkunda kureba. Inyuma yabantu, kamere, kubantu bose badukikije.