Pavel Trubiner: "Turatonganya na Julia, dukubita amasahani, hanyuma tubyitotomba"

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Byemezwa ko ibi ari byiza iyo umuntu abitangaje kandi afite intego yubaka ubuzima bwe. Ariko hano ku mukinnyi ufite impano, watsinze cyane na se w'abana batatu ba Pavel Trubiner, ibintu byose biratandukanye: akunda imvugo "inyenyeri zihurira hamwe." Avuga rero ibyagize umwuga na umuntu ku giti cye. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe no nomero yo muri Mata yikinyamakuru ikirere.

- Paul, hari ukuntu yavuze ko iryo shuri ryari bitatu, ariko wagize ingingo ebyiri ukunda: ibitabo, birumvikana, na biologiya, ntibisanzwe.

Ati: "Nakunze ibinyabuzima ubwanjye sinzi impamvu, ariko sinigeze ngira gahunda yo gukiniraho muri urwo rwego." Kandi ibitabo bikunzwe, ariko gusoma ntabwo byari ishyaka ryanjye. Ariko nishimiye guhisha ibisigo twabajijwe, kandi nakundaga kubisoma igihe nagiye mu bwato. Nibyo, nabikoze, urujijo, ntirwagira isoni, nuko ntangira kunama asa nkuwizeye. Ahari rero nagiye mu mwuga ukora.

- Mubaze nabanyeshuri mwigana, ufite isoni cyane?

- Ibintu byose byari bitandukanye rwose hano. Kandi barashobora kunkubita, kandi ndashobora kumpa. Nta kintu kidasanzwe kuri cyo. Njye mbona, iyo abantu bakuru batangiye gutsindishiriza kunanirwa kwabo nukubera ibibazo mwishuri, byose ni ubuswa. Birumvikana ko hari inkuru ziremereye. Ariko kuri njye mbona ko abana atari mubihe bikabije, cyane cyane abanyeshuri bo mumashuri yisumbuye, bagomba guhangana. Niba narababajwe, ntabwo nigeze bitotomba Papa, ushobora kuza guhana umuntu.

Umukinyi we, umutware n'umuyobozi yulia Melnikova, umukobwa wa Liza

Umukinyi we, umutware n'umuyobozi yulia Melnikova, umukobwa wa Liza

Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Pavel Trubiner

- Yagiye ku ishuri yishimye cyangwa arota kuva mu rukuta rwe?

- Birumvikana ko bigoye kujya mwishuri, cyane cyane ibyiciro hamwe na karindwi, mugihe ufite diary gusa muri portfolio yawe, ikaye yimara kumpapuro enye, impapuro za geometrie. Ntabwo uhindura ikintu cyose, ariko wandika ibintu byose mugibone rumwe. Njye kubwimpamvu zimwe zambaraga kaseti. Byari bimaze gufata peestroika, kandi ni ibyacu.

- Wari umwangavu mwiza, ntabwo yigeze yishora mu butegetsi, yagerageje kunywa itabi, kunywa? Kandi amatariki y'urukundo mwishuri yari asanzwe?

Ati: "Mu myaka yishuri nari namaze kwarwanywa nitabi, ariko nagerageje kunywa inzoga bwa mbere muri theatre. Twanyweye byeri, rusize irangi, kandi byari bisekeje cyane. Nibyiza, ntabwo byari bihari nta rukundo rwa mbere, ni urukundo rusekeje. Nibyo, umunyeshuri mwigana numusore mwishuri ryashaje yubatse afite imyaka cumi n'itandatu, undi mugabo n'umugore babyaranye gato mugihe cyo kurangiza icyiciro cya cumi na rimwe. Kandi baracyabana, kandi abana baravutse.

- Wize ntabwo muri Gitis, no muri kaminuza hamwe?

"Yego, iri muri kaminuza ya Golubovsky, umunyeshuri twigana ni a'na binini." Noneho twashakaga kongera inzira imwe, bityo tuzabona igiti cya dipolome, ariko ntibyabaye. Igihe cyari kigoye, hagati ya mirongo ine, nuko nashakaga guhindura ikintu cyose kumuntu.

- Nuko wasohotse umuhanzi ukiri muto cyane ...

- Yego, bimaze kuba kaminuza Tabakov (Kubwamahirwe, Oleg Pavlovich atabaye), kandi twari abapayiniya. Kandi yakoze ibyo badashobora, kuko urubyiruko rudakeneye gahunda rusange yigishijwe mu kigo cy'ikinamico, ariko hakoreshejwe ibikoresho bike byo kwiga. Nyuma yicyiciro cya munani, turacyari abana bato, bidakuze rwose gukina "Anna Karenina" cyangwa "Ivanova" mumyaka cumi nine n'itanu.

Pavel Trubiner:

"Urugero rw'ibikorwa ntacyo rutwaye. Ikintu cyingenzi nukumva umuntu kurwego rwo hejuru. Niba hari urukundo, ntakindi."

Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Pavel Trubiner

- Abahawe impamyabumenyi muri kaminuza Oleg Pavlovich jya kuri theatre ya reactoire. Noneho ntiwifuzaga ko ibi cyangwa mubusore bwanjye ntibumva ko bakeneye ibintu byose mubuzima bwumukinnyi ukiri muto?

- Twatangiye kwiga muri uwo mwaka arangije kubaho leta imwe kandi yavutse ari shyashya, ku buryo rero mu myigire, uko byagenda kose, namaze kugira imyumvire kuri aya manota. Ikigo kirangiye, cinema ntabwo yakuweho, ntabwo rero numva niba nakora umwuga ukora na gato. Kandi kugirango tukorere muri iki gihe cyo gucunga, byari ngombwa kuba abafana, icyo gihe ntabwo nabaye muri kiriya gihe. Ntabwo nerekanye ahantu hose, ariko ayo mabwiriza make yatubereye ku bigize impamyabumenyi ntabwo yari ameze, uwo twihutira. Ariko ntabwo nicuza kuba icyo gihe, ntabwo yahaye ubugingo bwe kurwara ikinamico. (Aseka.) Nabonye byinshi nkuko ntekereza.

- Waguze nyuma cyane, kandi ibyo mumyaka yambere udafite umwuga byakugoye, biremereye?

- Ndangije muri kaminuza mfite imyaka cumi n'icyenda, wenda, ku buryo sinshobora kuvuga ko mu gihe cyo kubabazwa. Oya, noneho habaye igihe gishimishije, natekerezaga cyane cyane ntabwo ntekereza kugereranya na bagenzi banjye, icyo gukora ubutaha. Slear.

- Urashaka akazi cyangwa yagusanze ubwanjye?

- Ni iki cyahuye nacyo. UKumenyereye ikintu cyajugunywe, ahantu byari bishimishije, ahantu - ntabwo cyane. Ibyo bikora bitagiye kubugingo ntibyarambabaje igihe kirekire. Ariko hari ibyiciro nakunze ndetse nahumekewe.

- Kurugero?

- Twari dufite ishuri ryumupira wamaguru b'abana ku kigo cya siporo, kandi twarabafashaga, imikino yateguwe. Hariho abana benshi, imyaka itatu cyangwa ine yabayeho. Nibyo, ntabwo byazanye amafaranga. Muburyo bubangikanye nagurishije mudasobwa. (Kumwenyura.) Mu nzira, twembi hamwe na Olga, mukayo mukagira ejo hazaza, duhura.). (Olga Mukhortova, nyampinga menshi muri Pentathlon. - Hafi. Auth.)

Umuhungu wa Sena Alegizandere afite imyaka cumi n'icyenda, akunda gusiganwa moto

Umuhungu wa Sena Alegizandere afite imyaka cumi n'icyenda, akunda gusiganwa moto

Ifoto: Ububiko bwihariye bwa Pavel Trubiner

- yari asanzwe afite umukinnyi witwa?

- Birumvikana ko nyampinga menshi, yari afite ibikombe byinshi.

- Washakanye nyuma yimyaka itatu nyuma yikigo kirangiye. Bimaze kuba byinshi cyangwa bike byinjije?

- ntabwo. Ntabwo twabitekerezaga, divayi yishyaka ryose ryurubyiruko.

- Kandi Olga ntabwo yitiranya ko wari ukiri mu masangano?

- Birasa nkaho ari oya. (Aseka.) Birashoboka, ariwe byose - bikwiye kandi ikibazo cyanjye - ntabwo cyari ngombwa cyane. Hariho ubutwari n'imbaraga nyinshi, nibibi ... ibintu byabasore.

- Ufite Umwana wanjye wavukiye vuba, kandi mubitekerezo, asanzwe arindi nshingano ...

- Igihe kirekire, ndetse n'inshuro ya kabiri, nyuma yimyaka ine, ntabwo numvaga data. Kera cyane wungutse kuri iri jambo. (Aseka.) Mu bagore, ibyiyumvo byababyeyi bishyirwa muri kamere, kandi tugomba kwiyandikisha ahantu, kuburyo ubwo ni bwo ntacyo bumvise. Ubu mfite umukobwa Lisa, yavutse nkiri mirongo ine, none ibintu byose biratandukanye rwose.

- Kandi wabanye na Olya he, hamwe nabana?

- Nari mfite inzu twabanaga bose hamwe na mama. Papa yapfuye hakiri kare.

- Byari kubwawe ibyago byambere bikomeye?

Ati: "Namaze kumenyera kubura ababo, kuko ba sogokuru basigara mbere y'ibyo. Kandi mugihe gito ntabwo uri imibabaro myinshi kandi ukaba wishora mubyatubayeho, ni bangahe wikangurira, vuga ko mu muryango uri umutware ubu kandi ugomba kurengera Mama. Papa, rwose nabuze, ubu ndabura, ariko ubu ni ubuzima.

Mu gushushanya "fantasy y'ijoro ryera", intwari yacu yishe isi ya ballet. Mugenzi we yabaye Elizabeth Boyarskaya

Mu gushushanya "fantasy y'ijoro ryera", intwari yacu yishe isi ya ballet. Mugenzi we yabaye Elizabeth Boyarskaya

- Ntabwo wabonye umunezero w'imbere kubejo hazaza?

- Sinzi aho nakuye, cyangwa sekuru yambwiye ko ibintu byose byari igihe cye, ariko ntuye kuri iri hame. Ntacyo mpatira. Ariko ntiwumve, sinigeze nicara. (Kumwenyura.)

- Kandi muri iyo myaka ntibigeze bagwa mu myumvire yihendutse? Ufite icyizere?

- birashoboka yego. Biragaragara ko kwiheba bikomoka kuri buri muntu kubwimpamvu runaka, ariko nta bihugu bikaze. Nahoraga nibwira ko ibishobora kuba bibi. Nabonye abo tuziranye, inshuti zagize ibintu bitoroshye. Kandi ntiyenze amaboko yo gutera.

- Mu ntangiriro ya 2000, no mu mpera za 90s, abasirikari ba mbere, no mubyiciro, icyambere, ariko bufite ireme, batangiye kugaragara. Ntabwo wari ufite, ni iki nakagombye guhuriza hamwe?

- Muri iki gihe nakinnye mu kwamamaza ikawa nziza. Byari ikintu. Portfolio yanjye yari kuri Mosfilm na studio. Gorky. Nampamagaye, naraje, kandi byose biraba. Byari kwamamaza cyane Dane yafashwe amashusho, yagaragaje ingengo y'imari nini. Birumvikana ko muri ayo masambo sinshobora kugura imodoka, ariko biracyaza kuri njye byari amafaranga afatika. Kandi ikintu cyingenzi, mu maso hanjye amanitswe mu gihugu hose ku byapa bitwara abantu, bivumburwa ku bahindukira ibinyamakuru byinshi. (Aseka.)

- Ariko uruhare runini rwaje kuriwe ntiruhita ...

- Yego, ahantu mumyaka ibiri. Mbere yibyo, nakinnye mumatangazo. Hanyuma icyifuzo cyakozwe cyo gukina murukurikirane rwa TV "hiyongereyeho ubuziraherezo," Nari mpangayitse cyane, ariko ngiye kwemezwa. Hamwe nibyo, ibintu byose byagiye mu mwuga.

Pavel Trubiner:

Mu ruhare rwa vadim roshchina muri firime ya tereviziyo "Kugenda ku ifu"

- Uyu munsi ntugihangayikishijwe cyane nicyitegererezo kandi ni ikihe kibazo cyo guhitamo imishinga?

Ati: "Ntekereza ko umukinnyi wese ushyira mu gaciro yumva: Umwuga wacu wabaswe no kumwanya mwiza wa terefone terefone irashobora guceceka, ntamuntu uzaguhamagara ahandi. Kubwibyo, rwose, ubwoba nk'ubwo burahari ubu. Nubwo, birumvikana, nshobora kwishyura ikintu cyo guhitamo. Niba nemeye firime, ndagerageza kubikora neza. Ariko, nkaho wabaye umuhanga cyangwa wakinnye, film ntishobora gukora. Birumvikana ko birumvikana, guhitamo neza umukinnyi kurwego nyamukuru nurufunguzo rwo gutsinda. Kurugero, mubyamamare byuruhererekane "cerenc" muburyo bwinshi koba ari intwari ya charismatic. Ariko na none, uko ibintu bimeze. Nuburyo twicaye hamwe nigipaki cyimbaho ​​kumutwe "ukomeye" muri Grimychik, warebye ingero z'abahanzi ba Hollywood ku rugero runini, urugero, icyitegererezo cya Al Pacino kuri Corleon, kandi ntibabonye ishusho yagaragaye kuri Mugaragaza. Ndavuga rero ko ingero ari icya cumi cyimiterere uzagira amaherezo. Ibintu byose byongera uburyo uzavugana numuyobozi, niki kizabafatanyamo, imyambarire ndetse nuburyo nyaburanga. Kubwibyo, uko mbibona, nta muhanzi ushobora kuvuga ko Physiognomy ye yatsindiye Oscar. (Aseka.)

- Wakunze firime mu bwana n'urubyiruko?

- cyane! Naho, birashoboka ko, umuhungu uwo ari we wese, nanze abarwanyi bacu bose b'Abasoviyeti, cyane cyane "mu bandi ...". Noneho nari muri siporo hamwe na Yura Golubev, umutoza witwa Sergeevich, kandi twaganiriye kuriyi firime. Buri wese muri twe yarebye inshuro nyinshi. Nakundaga kandi igitero cya gisirikare.

- Wowe hari ukuntu watanze ko ukunda cnineme yimyidagaduro, nyuma yaho, uva muri salle, ntukababaze ibyabaye n'ibitekerezo biremereye. Ariko ndatekereza ko utavuga imyidagaduro yubusa, ariko kubyo utegereje muri nyuma - kugaragara kumarangamutima meza, kandi ntabwo wumva ko byose biteye ubwoba.

- Ukwiriye muburyo bwinshi. Ariko niba ugereranya sinema ndarasa, kandi ibyo nkunda kureba, ibi nibintu bitandukanye. Kandi amashusho ya gisirikare ni uguha agaciro inkuru yacu. Nari mfite nyirukuru, umwe yageze kuri Berlin. Ndetse na nyirakuru intambara yarakoze ku mutima. Muri njye, ubu bubabare bwose bwicaye, niko ndimura cyane muri firime nkiyi. Muri icyo gihe, nkunda cinema yimyidagaduro, ariko ntibirema ubusa, birumvikana, ariko amarangamutima atwara amarangamutima, atanga ingufu. Uva muri salle yanze, ntabwo imisumari. Mfite ikibazo cyo kumva uburyo abayobozi bamwe bavuga ko bakuraho cinema. Noneho wicare mu gikoni cyawe urebe.

- Kandi ku ishusho kantantin khudyakova "Kugenda ku ifu" wanyuze?

Ati: "Nari mfite ingero zuzuye, ariko nyuma ya kontantin Pavlovich yaranyemereye ko atigeze abona ko hari umuntu muri uru ruhare. Twamwemeranya na we, ndetse twabaye inshuti. Nyuma y'urugendo rwa Pyatigorsk, yagize ati: "GASHA, ko tutamenyereye mbere." Ni umuntu mwiza. Ndishimye cyane ku buryo ntagira ngo nagize amahirwe yo gukina iyo shusho, ahubwo nkorana n'umuyobozi mwiza nk'uwo.

Pavel Trubiner:

Mu ruhererekane rushya "Lancet", Umukinnyi yagombaga kurohama muri abamugaye

- Hariho ingabo nyinshi, Kagabashnikov nabaganga muri "Urutonde rwose rwa serivisi" ...

- Mubyukuri, nakinnye umubare munini winyuguti zitandukanye. Gusa ikintu kitari mubintu byanjye byo guhanga ni ubwoko bwiza. Umushyitsi kuva ejo hazaza ntabwo nakinnye. Ariko imyenda y'amateka irahagije, nari mfite igishushanyo cya orlov, na Alexander Nevsky, ndetse no muri ballet nagize uruhare.

- Turimo tuvuga kuri firime "Fantasy yijoro ryera", itarahabwa akazi. Wakoze he kokowography?

- Iyo ayo mashusho akuweho, ibintu bigoye ni uko umuntu ashobora kuba mwiza kubyina, kandi ntabwo afite ubushobozi butangaje. Igihe twarimo nitegura kurasa, naje mu ishuri rya Vaganov kugera Nikolay Tsiskarididze, wavuze ko, birumvikana ko atari umuntu wa ballet ushobora kugaragara ako kanya. Kubwibyo, muri firime, ntabwo intego yakozwe kuri koreografiya, ariko uburyo umuntu agenda, nko kuvuga. Nubwo nagombaga gukora, ndwana, nahagurutse kubera werekane kandi nimenyane ballet pa, ariko, mubisanzwe, nta mukumbi ntabwo watwaye. Abanyamerika bakunda gutekereza uburyo buri wese akomeye. Kandi igihe Natalie Portman avuga ko yiganye ku mbyino, birasekeje, kuko noneho bagaragaza ko ari balrsesh, bafite sensors mumaso noneho yo mumaso yicyambu. Ariko twagerageje kandi.

- Kandi umukunzi ufite ubwoko bumwebuhanga kandi bwiza-bwiza Lisa HAYOSKYAYa. Muri rusange uri umunyamahirwe kubakinnyi beza ...

- Yego. Nukuri. Nagize amahirwe rwose. Na Lisa na Umukinnyi ni beza, kandi umugabo aratangaje. Nta gushidikanya rwose, aragira neza, yitabira, yoroshye, kandi numuntu uwo ari we wese, atitaye ku mwuga n'umuntu. Kandi kuri njye mbona ko aricyo kintu cyingenzi.

- Umugore wawe wa kabiri, Julia Melnikova, na we wa filime, akorera muri Saririkon, ariko, mbona, ikinamico afite igitabo cyimbitse kuruta kuri firime ...

Gusa yakoze umuzingo kurundi ruhande. Yari asanzwe ari umuyobozi, yarangije amasomo menshi muri Irakli Kvikadze hamwe na diploma itukura. Yakuyeho firime eshatu zigufi, umwe muri bo ndetse yasuye muri Canu Cannes, abandi baracyajya mu minsi mikuru yose bakakira ibihembo. Ariko afite cinema ituye, ntabwo ari umunsi mukuru, kubwibyo bibaho rimwe na rimwe. Amashusho ye ntabwo akwiriye muburyo: Ntamuntu wapfiriyeyo, ntamuntu wagabanije umutwe ... Afite ibyatsi bigufi, Lyuba "akugereranywa na Mikhalkov. Julia numuntu ufite impano, azabigeraho.

No mu mateka ya sinema "akomeye" ari mu ishusho y'ibibereye kurera orlova

No mu mateka ya sinema "akomeye" ari mu ishusho y'ibibereye kurera orlova

- Kandi uri murugo umuyobozi, umufatanyabikorwa ungana, kandi birashoboka ko inyeshyamba kubushake?

- Oya, ndi umuyobozi muburyo bwiza bw'Ijambo kandi ayobore umuryango. Birumvikana, nemera ibisubizo byingenzi. Ariko niba ikibazo kiri mumurongo aho igitekerezo cyanjye kidakenewe, gikora Julia.

- Ese amakimbirane yawe arabaho?

- Birumvikana ko twatongana, dukubita amasahani (aseka), hanyuma tuvunika, genda. Dufite byose nkabandi, ubuzima busanzwe.

- umuhungu wawe w'imfura akora iki?

- Vuba ahamwe na cumi n'icyenda, akunda gusiganwa moto, akora mu marushanwa, none aracyiga mu kigo cy'uburere bw'umubiri ku mutoza muri iki cyerekezo.

- Ntukite kumwanya wa moto, ikintu kibi?

- Oya, nubwo mfite impungenge. Uku ni ko yahisemo, akunda. Noneho azategura Shampiyona y'Uburusiya n'ibikoresho by'Uburayi by'ibikombe. Kandi yamaze gukora umurimo wo gutoza. Kandi umuhungu wo hagati aracyari mwishuri. Atwara imodoka. Umwaka ushize, yinjiye muri abaderevu batanu ba mbere kandi iyi mpeshyi izajya kumarushanwa yanyuma ya CSS muri Venise.

- Noneho ibyiringiro byose kumukobwa, ko atazaguhangayikishwa. Byongeye kandi, afite genes ikora ...

- Reka turebe ibizaba icyo bizahitamo. Noneho birashya cyane kuvuga kubintu runaka. Lisa Lisa, inzira, gukomera hamwe, hamwe nimiterere mumyaka ibiri nigice. Sinshobora kuvuga ko ari umugozi uturutseho, ariko yimuka. Akora cyane kandi akunda ingendo.

- Wabashakanye hamwe numukinnyi, none wowe numugore wawe - abo mukorana. Umuryango wumwuga mubusabane bwumuryango utanga inyungu nyinshi kurenza ibidukikije?

- Njye mbona, urugero rwibikorwa ntacyo bitwaye. Icy'ingenzi nugusobanukirwa umuntu kurwego runaka rwagakiza. Niba ufite ikintu cyitwa "urukundo", ntakindi.

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