Sergey Astakakhov: "Nagize imyaka 35 kubuntu"

Anonim

- Bamwe bavuga ko nta mwuga ukora. Abandi (kandi abagize ubwabo binubira ibyo uyu batunzwe kandi ukomeye. Tubwire ibyiza nibihembe byumwuga ukora ubona kugiti cyawe?

- Umusazi? Iki nikiganiro ibyumweru bibiri. (Aseka.) Niba muri make, ibyiza ni byiza rwose byishema ryawe nubusa. Niba ubikeneye, urashobora guhaza byimazeyo ibyifuzo byawe byo guhanga. Ibibi - Ibi byose birasigaye! Ibi rimwe na rimwe ntibivuguruzanya, rimwe na rimwe kubura inzu, mu muryango, kutumva nabi cyane hamwe n'umuryango, ibitekerezo bidahagije byishyurwa uburere bw'abana. Noneho abakinnyi bababajwe na psyche gato, nkuko abantu bafite amarangamutima, ubushyuhe bushyushye, budasanzwe. Kandi kubera ko twatetse muri boiler imwe, biragoye kuguma kuri karnivali kandi ntukabe ubwawe ubwawe, ushyira akazu ka clown. Byose muburyo bumwe cyangwa ubundi buba bwiza. Hariho byinshi byukuri bivuguruzanya hagati yabakinnyi. Hariho, byukuri, ubucuti, ariko ntibisanzwe cyane. Kubwibyo, ibidukikije byinshi mu mwuga ukora. Cyane.

- Kuki umwuga ukora udakeneye.

- Kuberako ntangiye kuza kuri iki mirongo itanu. Nibyiza, biteye ubwoba imyaka mirongo irindwi nukukandagira no kwerekana ikintu. Ibintu byose bifite umwanya. Birashoboka, uko byose, umwuga wumugabo werekana ... Urabizi, buri gihe naranshimishije, kandi ndandagiranya unshimira, nk'urugero, umuriro, abaganga, abaganga. Iyi ni imyuga mibi yabagabo. Ni ukuvuga, intwari nyazo muri cinema ntizikurwaho. Nyizera. Intwari nyazo zibaho mubuzima busanzwe. Kurugero, umuderevu wateye indege mukibuga cyibigori akiza ubuzima bwabantu, abaganga bahagarika ubuzima bwabo, bakize ubuzima bwacu nibindi.

- Wavuze isabukuru yawe ya mirongo itanu, imyaka ingahe?

- Nibyiza, ni gute? Noneho ndatanga ikiganiro, nryamye kuri sofa, ndareba TV, urye ibiryo biryoshye, bakuramo igifu, muri rusange, numva meze neza. Byiza cyane. (Aseka.)

- Ni ubuhe bushomeri bw'abagabo urukundo? Niki ukunda, hari ibyo ukunda?

- Mperutse kureba kohereza kuri Everest, biteye ubwoba! Birumvikana ko mfite uburebure, nkunda imisozi, nkunda ibiti, ishyamba, imodoka zurukundo, moto, ibikoresho, ibikoresho. Nkunda byose. Ikintu cyose kidafitanye isano nubuhanzi. Kuberako mugihe ufite imyaka irenga mirongo itatu muri ubu buhanzi, uracyarambiwe. Ibyo ari byo byose biryoshye, haracyariho umunsi umwe yigeze ashaka kugerageza cyangwa kwamaboko.

"Kuri njye, ikinamico" y'Uburusiya "ni inzu ibanza. Ndatutuye, sinigeze numva merewe neza. "

"Kuri njye, ikinamico" y'Uburusiya "ni inzu ibanza. Ndatutuye, sinigeze numva merewe neza. "

Reka

- Ubuvumbuwe bwa none kuri wewe umwaka ushize?

- Uracapura?

- Nibyo, yego, ariko ni iki kindi?

- Nuburyo udashidikanya wabivuze. (Aseka.) Noneho nzagusobanurira, gusa uzakenera gutekereza neza kuri ibi. Rero, inyangamugayo. Nibura iminota itanu. Umwaka ushize, umuderevu wanze ibiro byose mu ndege, ntabwo yitiranyije, ntabwo yijimye, ntabwo yamukijije, yari mu ndunduro cyangwa acika intege Gutera indege ku bigori no kuzigama abagenzi bose b'umurongo. Uyu mwaka, ikinyamakuru GQ cyahaye igihembo cy'umwaka utari uwo muderevu, ariko umunyamakuru wa Jeria Dudu. Ibi ni ukuri? Ibyo byarambabajwe. Biratangaje cyane. Hano wandike, nyamuneka.

- Kuberako societe ikunda itangazamakuru ...

- Urabona, icyo ni igiciro cya byose. Nyuma yibyo, inzu yanjye ni igihome cyanjye, kandi imyizerere yanjye ni imyizerere yanjye, kandi sinzigera nemera. Niba muri iki kinyamakuru, uzi ibyabaye, umugabo wumwaka ahinduka iyi nama, hanyuma, basore, mumbabarire - wantangaje. Ariko ndabikoze, nagize imyanzuro myiza cyane kubwanjye, ibyo nzamfasha mubuzima bw'ejo hazaza kugirango nkomere.

- uri umupfakazi? Bizere ibibera mu gitabo?

- Umusaza, erega, uzi ko, ntekereza ko nta hantu na rimwe hashobora kubaho byinshi mubuzima, ntibizarenza iherezo. Iherezo nibyo bidutegereje mugihe cyanyuma. Turashobora gukora ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose, dushobora guhindura iherezo ryacu (cyangwa nkuko ukunda kuvuga). Urashobora kuba amahirwe, urashobora kugwa kubintu byiza cyangwa bibi. Ariko amaherezo bizaba ibizaba. Kubwibyo, hariho amagambo - ntabwo uburakari bw'Imana, nibindi bisa, ibyo ni byiza, ariko hariho intego runaka. Niba umuntu yashoboye kubaho byibuze imyaka ijana na mirongo itanu, yashoboraga kuvuga ko mubuzima ushobora guhindura ikintu, ahubwo yagiriye amahirwe, mukarere ka mirongo itandatu cyangwa imyaka ijana na bibiri twese nsanga turi mu kindi gipimo kiranga. Muri make, tuzakora byose. Kandi kugeza ubu ntamuntu numwe washoboye guhindura iherezo cyane, ariko benshi barabishaka, kandi ntibasohoka. (Aseka.) Kubwibyo, ibimonyo ntibizaba inzovu, cyangwa kOG - Yego! Kimwe no guteka.

- Iherezo ryakugize impano, ufite umukobwa Maria, ni iki ukunda uyu munsi?

- Umukobwa? Namaze guhinda. Mu ishuri rya Schukinsky ryize. Komeza gukomeza? Ntiyagiye mu kirenge cya papa, ariko mu cyerekezo kimwe.

- biragushimisha?

- Umukobwa yagiye iki mu cyerekezo cy'umusaraba? (Aseka.) Ntabwo ari byinshi. (Aseka.)

Kubyerekeye abadafite ububi na bum

- Ufite abanyacyubahiro benshi?

- Ndatekereza Yego, byinshi. Njye hari ukuntu ntavugana nabo, ariko ndakeka.

- Kandi wumva ute ibihuha bibi kuri wewe, amazimwe yanduye, uragerageza kurinda abo ukunda?

- Imana yanjye ya hafi, ishimwe, ndanzi neza. Kubwibyo, bahora, niba ari byiza kuvuga, gutangara. Kandi iyo umubare utemewe urenze kuri njye, nukuvuga, amakuru adafitanye isano yihariye kuri njye, utaba usakuza, cyangwa ngo gusoma bidashoboka, bavuga gusa ko abantu basaze. Nabana nte? Ntabwo nshyigikiye ibyo bavuga nabi, gusa kuvuga ko ntazibagirwa. Ntabwo nshishikajwe. Ariko igihe kirekire, bimaze imyaka mirongo itanu, oya, oya yego ntegereje njye ubwanjye mu ndorerwamo. Kandi rwose nzi kuri njye ubwanjye, birenze umuntu kurusha umuntu ashobora no kunywa. Kandi itandukaniro riri hagati y'ibyo ndi kandi ko bimwe na bimwe, binini. Muri rusange, mfite impungenge zingenzi. Ubu rero nabonye kefir ubwo yagendaga, none nabonye umutobe mushya wa orange. Kandi rero ndatekereza, unywerenze. Iki nikibazo kuri njye.

"Ikibaho cyo mu kinyarwanda cyangwa agace ko kurasa ni nk'umuhungu n'umukobwa mu muryango"

"Ikibaho cyo mu kinyarwanda cyangwa agace ko kurasa ni nk'umuhungu n'umukobwa mu muryango"

- Guhuza ibibazo?

- Yego, nkuko bihuza Kefir. (Aseka.) Ndabikomeza mu kuboko kwanjye, nanze kuri firigo, kandi ndatekereza. Aracyanywa. Akonje, afite urubura. Ndutsembye kuva kera ubudahangarwa bwamafaranga muri ibyo bitekerezo byose. Nakundaga kutabyumva kugeza igihe interuro irangiye: "Kandi abacamanza ni bande?" Noneho ndabyumva neza.

- Ufite icyizere? Ni ibihe bizaza ushushanya wenyine?

- Igihugu cyabaho, kandi nta bindi bibazo biriho! Nigute ushaka kubimenya ukurikije ibyabaye bigezweho, urabona, birashoboka cyane ko meze neza. Nabayeho mumyaka nyabagendwa muri Brezhnev. Ndibuka igihugu cyabayeho. Sinzi ko atari ku magambo, kwicara ku musarani kandi tugoreka mu biganza bya iPhone, amakuru meza ya kaseti, sinzi aho. Kandi ndabizi, kuko nabayeho buri munsi rero, umwuka wose. Buri munsi nabonye ibintu byose n'amaso yanjye. Ndibuka neza uko twabayeho kugeza mumwaka wa 80. Igihe ubushake bwa olempike bwakorwaga. Hanyuma ubuyobozi bwa USSR bwakozwe hamwe nigihugu cyaturutse. Byagenze bite ubwo naturutse ku gisirikare, wari ufite imyaka 89, n'ibyabaye kuva mu 1991 kugeza 2001. Imyaka icumi yarokotse ubuzima. Twari ku nkombe y'ikuzimu, ikuzimu, aho ibindi bihugu byaguye bidahari. Twavunitse gusa dukoresheje umurongo ngenderwaho nabafatanyabikorwa b'iburengerazuba. Igihe nari mvuye ku myaka 20 kugeza 30, birasa, akazi, akazi no kurema. Ariko iyi myaka irashize mu kibaya cya mu gace ka mudasobwa igendanwa. Iyo ntawe wari uzi, uyu munsi hazaba ibiryo cyangwa ngo bitazabaho amezi atatu byibuze umushahara umwe ku muryango cyangwa ngo utahe umushahara umwe. Sinzigera mbwira. Hanyuma igitabo kiriho cyaje. Nkuko twabayeho iyi myaka makumyabiri, aho twari turimo n'aho turi ubu. Abantu benshi ntibabizi. Ndetse na mirongo ine n'umugabo mirongo ine, ntabwo bari muri 90. Icyo gihe bari bafite imyaka 18. Ntibigeze bumva ibibaye. Ariko kubwimpamvu runaka, bashaka gusambura byose hasi ubu, hanyuma ... kandi kuki twakoraga imyaka 20 kugirango ubeho? Utuye mubyo utuye. Nibyo, ntukunda ikintu. Ndumva neza, ugomba gukora. Ibibazo bimwe bikemura. Ariko fata, ni gute abantu baduhamagara mu burengerazuba? Niki, na none gukora ibishoboka byose? Ntibikenewe kurimbura byose, birakenewe kunoza. Ugomba guhindura ikintu, kugirango ufungure ikintu, kugirango ufunge ikintu - gutera imbere! Ntabwo nibuka ko muri kimwe mu bihugu byateye imbere cyane mu Burayi, mu Budage, bafata byose baranguruye kandi bubaka anew. Batezimbere rwose buri munsi. Ntawe usenya urufatiro rw'inzu. Ntabwo. Dushingiye ku migenzo myiza, baracyatezimbere. Kuberako ukimara gusenya urugo rwawe, uzampa angahe, niki ushobora kubigarura na gato? Urebye ko umuyaga mwinshi uhuha, hazatyaza ukarishye, urambuwe. Wabwirwa n'iki ko byose bizagenda? Kubwibyo, icyifuzo cyanjye gikomeye, nubwo ubu hari ibibazo byinshi byasobanuwe kugirango tutigishwe kugirango tubeho neza. Nuburyo nshaka ko bafite ibitekerezo bihagije kugirango basobanukirwe ubwoko bw'abantu bakuru bazi byinshi kandi, wenda, ndetse nabato. Noneho, reka twubahe abakuru, ubafashe, ubakunde, kandi birashoboka rero ko nazo zirimo kuba mutoKubyo nyuma rero ntabwo ari wowe ugomba kuzana ikirahuri cyamazi, ahubwo kinakira kefir hamwe numutobe wa orange. (Aseka.)

Ubucuruzi bwa Theatrical

- Uyu munsi ugira uruhare mubitaramo byinshi byimikino yizeye babbina, wagezeyo ute?

- Natumiwe na Nadezhda Georgievna. Ku ruhare ruto. Yakoraga imyaka itari mike. Hanyuma yahanze urundi ruhare. Byinshi. Kandi rero nakoraga mu makinamico menshi. Hariho imvugo yakubiswe, ashyushye ati: "Ikinamico ni nk'inzu ya kabiri." Kuri njye rero, ikinamico "yikirusiya" ni inzu ibanza. Ndatuye ibirenze ibyo, ntabwo numvaga merewe neza. Ndasusurutse, nkikijwe nubugwaneza no kubaha abakiri bato. Ujya kuri theatre, nuburyo baboneka ku isaha, birangirana mubiro bishinzwe umuyobozi, abantu bose bari bameze neza, ndetse bitemewe. Ugororotse ndashaka ko ntagwa mumaso mumutwe. Menyesha ibintu byose yahawe.

- Mugikinisho "ijoro ryabanjirije Noheri nziza" Ukina imico. Imiziririzo ntabwo iri kuri wewe? Ntabwo bisobanutse ntabwo bigoye gukina, gerageza wenyine? Ntacyo utinya?

- kandi mfite ikintu cyiza. Ni umukristo, ugira neza, utangaje.

- Ni iki cyakuruwe mbere muri byose muri uru ruhare?

- Urabyumva, iyi ni Gogol, nuko, hagati y'urubanza. Uyu ni umwe mubanditsi nkunda. Kandi ntabwo nkunda gusa, ahubwo nanone miriyoni zabantu babarirwa muri za miriyoni kwisi yose. Icya kabiri, ndashimangira, iyi ni Theatre ya Byiringiro Georgievna. Nibyiza, ubutumire bwe ubwabwo ni ubwoko bwa blog nkiyi. Ndakwiriye rero. Kandi ni byiza cyane. Bose hamwe byabaye hamwe: Umuyobozi, abafatanyabikorwa, isosiyete, abakinnyi, nibintu byose, byose, byose. Nukuri. Nibyiza, unyite impamvu imwe ituma nkeneye kureka interuro nkiyi? Ngaho urashobora gukorera kubuntu. Kandi byose kubwibyishimo. Ntibitangaje kubona iyi platifomu yigitabo i Moscou uyumunsi niyo yashakishijwe cyane. Hariho uburyohe butandukanye, umuntu yagiye guswera, natsindira cyane ko izina kugirango ntabwumvikane buke, umuntu akunda gusoma ukundi, kandi umuntu akunda Classic. Abantu benshi bifuza kwizera ko nujya i Gogol, ntuzabona, uzi neza ko winjije mucyuma gigoramye. Tumeze dute? Ujya i Gogol kuri twe, shaka Gogol. Icyapa ntirushuka. Kandi icy'ingenzi nuko umubare munini wabandi bakinnyi bakorana nabo bishimye. Gukodesha urubuga kuko ngaho abantu bose bashaka gukina, nkuko navuze haruguru, kuko serivisi zose, hamwe ninzoka zose mu buryo bwumva iri jambo, aba ntabwo ari abakinnyi, ni umubare munini, abakozi, bose kandi ibintu byose bikora hano. Biragaragara kandi ubihanganye. Umuntu wese ubaza ufatanya n'ibyiringiro bya Georgievna babitina: Erisia Udovichenko - abantu bose bavuga ko ari byiza cyane gukorera hano. Nta bice, nta mayenga. Yaje, yakoraga, yishimiwe kandi ubwe, n'abareba, basigaye. Nibyiza ibishobora kuba byiza. Kuri njye, iyi ninkuru nziza. Nibyiza, no kwishyura amafaranga.

Sergey Astakakhov:

"Ntabwo ndi mu miyoboro iyo ari yo yose kandi nta kibazo gikemuka kitumva"

- Wavuze ko witeguye gukora cyane mubihe runaka, ndetse utiteguye, habaye ibihe nkibi mubuzima bwawe mugihe wemeye gukora kubuntu?

Ati: "Igihe cyose ntari ncupa mu biganiro byinshi na televiziyo kandi hari ukuntu byatangiye kumenya ahantu runaka, nakoraga imyaka 35 kubuntu kuri theatre. (Aseka.) Buri munsi.

- Kandi niki kikiri hafi ya manini - Ikinamico cyangwa agace kose? Ni irihe tandukaniro kuri wewe?

- Ni nkumuhungu numukobwa mumuryango. Ninde ukunda cyane? Iyi ni imwe. Byose biterwa nanjye ... oya, ntabwo aribyo. Ndashobora gutanga igitekerezo cyo gukina ejo byibuze gamlet, ariko niba Umuyobozi cyangwa abafatanyabikorwa bazanshakaho cyangwa badashimishije, ntabwo nzabikora. Ibi mvuga rwose kumugaragaro. Abantu ni ingenzi kuri njye. Guhagarika umutima birashobora guhinduka, ntibishobora gukora, ariko abantu, bahanze, cyangwa ntibahari. Bamwera nawe, nka, ufite inyungu rusange, ibyo bakunda cyangwa ibihe byisi, imyizerere ya politiki, cyangwa ntabwo. Kubwibyo, ikintu cyingenzi nuko hariho isosiyete nziza, kuko nyuma yimikorere ya premiere igomba kwitonderwa. Hamwe n'abanzi kumeza imwe, bizaba ahantu hadasanzwe. Kandi woza imikorere ni igice cyingenzi cyimikorere. (Aseka.) Utabifite muburyo ubwo aribwo bwose. Nibyo, uko byagenda kose, premiere.

- Utuje uvura ituje?

- Ntabwo mbona ibibazo na gato, kuko nzi ko umubare munini w'abakinnyi benshi b'imishahara ku isi muri Hollywood nabo bajya mu gihira. Kurugero, ndetse na Robert Downey Jr. yagerageje ku ruhare rw'umuntu w'icyuma. Kandi birasa, kuko ari inyenyeri ya mega, ni iki cyo kumureba, ariko ... kubwibyo, iki nikintu cyingenzi mubikorwa byo gukora. Kandi ku gihingwa zigomba kwitegura. Ku mukino birakenewe kugirango ugerageze kwiyerekana ntarengwa. Ikindi kibazo ni uko, mubyambayeho, ndabizi, rimwe na rimwe uza, ntabwo witeguye rwose, ntutekereza kwemezwa nuruhare, kandi uragufata. Kandi rimwe na rimwe barababazwa, uba wumye, uba urimo kwitegura, utekereza ko ari byiza kuruta abantu bose, ariko ntibakwibuka ibyawe. Iyi ni tombora nini cyane. Noneho, ikibabaje, birashoboka, ibiranze ntibizanyemerera kwicara, ntabwo ari urwego rwingenzi rwo gukora, ni bangahe igipimo cy'itangazamakuru. Mbega abashyitsi bangahe mumisebe rusange nibindi. Ariko ndabifitemo, Ndimo rwose kandi ndabyishimiye. Ntabwo mpagaye mumiyoboro iyo ari yo yose kandi ntakibazo kiva kuri ibi nticyumva. Ntabwo niteguye kwerekana ubuzima bwanjye buri munsi. Njye na mbere umugabo wanjye, papa, ntabwo ari uruneru ruva mu Ijambo riryozwa.

- Kandi, ariko, mubitekerezo byawe, umuyobozi cyangwa umukinnyi nabo barakenewe?

- ingero zirakenewe kuri bose. Birakenewe abatera, kuko bagomba kumva icyo abaterankunga bagabanuka. Ingero zirakenewe, birumvikana ko umuyobozi abona ko asobanukiwe uwo azabikora. Ni ikintu kimwe, akora imbonankubone umuntu ku giti cye, ikindi kintu - Umuntu utazwi rwose, ntuzigera umenya icyo, kandi arasaze, psychorant, akunda kwiruka mu myenda y'imbere. Ubwoko bwose. Nibyiza, umukinnyi akeneye kwiyerekana, kugirango arebe uwo agomba gukorana. Iyi ni inkuru yingirakamaro. Umuntu wese arabikeneye. Ibyo byubatswe no guta kumva imiterere ya Cvo.

- Akenshi usubizwa mu nshingano zasabwe cyangwa uri "byemewe", urebye ko uyu ari umwuga wawe kandi uyu mukinnyi agira uruhare?

- Ku bw'inkuru yanjye yose, uko nibuka, ntabwo natanze ikintu nkibyo navuga nti: "Yoo! Sinshobora kuyikina neza! " Muri make, abana ntibariye, ntabwo ari abantu. Ibindi byose wongeyeho-ukuyemo birashobora gukinwa.

- Emera uruhare rwawe murukurikirane rwa TV "Cops traffic" igufasha mubuzima bwa buri munsi, kurugero, mugihe utwaye, urahagarara?

- Uribeshya. (Aseka.) Kandi cyane. Kubwimpamvu runaka, benshi bemeza ko niba nakinnye umupolisi wumuhanda, mfite ubwoko bumwe bwambukiranya amategeko. Ibi ni kwibeshya. Ndarira kandi amande niba uvunika. Kandi kuri post, iyo ubimenye, abasore basaba ifoto nanjye. Kandi nibyiza kuri njye. Mubyukuri. Nibyiza, gute?

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