She looks like, unusually says, writes mysterious paintings ... Unusual! What is clear - offspring of two stunning families! Darya Semenova's father - Julian Semenov, "Reluler Dum" of the last quarter of the 20th century on the same sixth of the globe, who invented SS Studentenfürera, Mother - Ekaterina Semenova (in Mikhalkov's Maiden), Rasivota Vasily Surikov and the great-grandfather Peter Konchalovsky. And fate it fascinates. Having survived the death of one son, thanks the fate that he survived the junior accident, and keeps the native cross belonged to his father.
- The real surname of your father - Lyandres. Semenov is a creative pseudonym. Your grandfather, Semyon Alexandrovich Lyandres, was Assistant Bukharin, for which after the war he spent on the front as a military correspondent, he fell under repression. Do you remember him?
- I remember my last meeting with him. I was ten years old. The grandfather was always very elegantly dressed: a checkered jacket, a butterfly, a scarf ... He came to us and said: "Dasha, I brought you candy 'Grilyazh." I took them, but could not eat. Stone! I suspect that the same person - the stone was and he himself. The grandfather was sitting in prison since 1952, but his brother Ilya, also repressed, was serving the term under Magadan, in the camp, since 1937. She told that he thought of escape with other political - and it was necessary to go through the Taiga, and there was no food, so they looked at their fellow travelers, who was sitting for rape. Guess what? .. Grandfather, who was then on freedom, bombarded Stalin and the authorities with letters with a request to let the brother - honest communist and a bold detective. After all, Ilya Lyandres was one of the heroes of the Moscow criminal investigation department, his photograph is now exhibited in the Museum of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the Honorary Place. And in 1940 Ilya let go! Therefore, escape, fortunately, did not happen. When Ilya returned home, he first brought a plate, he saw a bread, poured there a bottle of vodka - and all this was Schobrbal (ate), so they were called on the zone. And the grandfather was released in 1954, after the death of Stalin. From this, their new life began. Now both lie on the Novodevichy cemetery. And the father is there.
- And I read that Julian Semenov's ashes dispelled over the Black Sea.
- This is not true. Dad cremated. After cremation urn, the month stood in my workshop, because we were not allowed to be buried. And when they gave, I myself came to the cemetery, drank the pit and put it there. But then I still could not put the slab, so after the first rain the urn the upper part came out. I had to repeat everything. And now there is a stove.
- You have a younger sister Olga, writer and actress. Passion of the Father to the disclosure of Tyne you and my sister passed?
- God knows him. Put me in front of me such a task, and I will try to solve it for three days. But I can't talk for Olya. Well, here the father was looking for an amber room, and I believe that it was in vain the time spent, because she was hidden in one place, and he was looking in another. During this time, he could write another novel, say dedicated to Stalin's repression. But he got carried away - what to do? Dad was a man fond.
Darya has a famous family. In the photo, our heroine with Mom, Catherine Sergeyevna, Andron Konchalovsky, Nikita Mikhalkov. Moscow, 1962
Photo: Personal Archive Daria and Olga Semenov
"Olga told me that his father really appreciated your talent of the artist, said that" all the impressionists went from Dasha. " From Olga, I know the story about the wonderful drawings made by you on trips with Julian Semenovich on Nicaragua and Afghanistan that you destroyed. Why? And, by the way, at what age, the father began to take you into his dangerous journalistic business trips?
- It seems to me for twenty years. I remember, I divorced my first husband, was the Olympiad, I worked on her, then I said: "Dad, take me somewhere." And we went to Nicaragua. Why did you destroy the drawings? Yes, I worked in Afghanistan, made pictures of prisoners of the Mujahideen in prison, portraits of Bubraca Karmal, Naddjibullah (after a few years he was brutally killed), Fatani, his wife, very beautiful was a woman, their children ... returned and arranged an exhibition in Leningrad. And I was told: "It is necessary to work at home, and not overcrow through abroad." I hurt me so much that I took and drove all the works. He summed up - and no longer engaged in reportage journalism and graphics. Then there was a period when clowns were interested, harlequin. Then it passed. I began to write stones and a tree, I decided that they were the only thing that I could not blame me - that I "politicize" or play some feelings. The next my series - Flowers. The moment of flowering is beautiful! It would be interesting to catch it. And then there will be clouds. And - C'est Tout, as my sister would say, who has long been living in France.
- Recently, in Moscow, our personal exhibition "Rights" passed. It was exhibited on it just those work on which you were inspired by stones and wood. It was inspired. I was at this exhibition and saw that you have a special relationship with a stone, and with a tree that is not so simple ...
- You see, after the death of the eldest son, I stopped paying attention to people. Well, impossible to cry all the time, is it true? While I did not put the granite slab on his grave, I wanted to break her down and go there. Granite helped me to cope with it. This is the first story with a stone. And then I went to the sea, Brela Brevel along the shore, suddenly lost consciousness, fell, and when I woke up, I had a stone in my hand. And I felt gratitude to him - for the fact that instead of the hand squeezed him. They are alive. Stones. This is the history of the earth. Yes, my son died. But how many people went to him! And how much will go after! Everyone who comes to this world must leave. So, it is necessary to work while we are alive. When I come to the Troekurovskaya cemetery, I say to my son: "Max, you know, I envy you. You passed all the circles of hell, and you are free! " And the trees ... When we lived in Cyprus, our house was standing on the mountain, and my husband and I got the children through the dry olive grove. And I thought: After all, each trunk is a story! The trees probably had no less than four hundred years. Here is a trees from there.
With sister Olga and cousin Egor Konchalovsky
Photo: Personal Archive Daria and Olga Semenov
- In 1966, a little girl starred in the film "Not the most successful day" on the story of your father "Dunechka and Nikita". Tale and film - about how spouses are trying to save the family. And your parents just experienced such a difficult period in their lives ...
- Yes, then we rephrased the name - it sounded "not the most successful film." (Laughs.) He took off his director Yuri Egorov. In him, besides me from our family, Nikitos was filmed except for me (Nikita Mikhalkov. - Approx. Aut.), And we really portrayed something from our honeycomb family chronicles ... You know our parents with Olya, the parents made a decision to divorce. At the father in the table until the last day lay eight applications for divorce, he showed them them. The statements were written, but did not wear the registry office. Parents remained in marriage, although many years lived apart.
- Do you think that mutual love, they did not have a real family?
- Love, I think it was still. As for the family ... I have my own attitude to the concept of "family." The bonds of marriage - this phrase seems to me absolutely vicious. Ultrasound may not be, there may be a union of two loving people who support each other in this jewel and difficult life. And mom, probably, I wanted exactly the bonds, I wanted to control all the situations. However, I do not know. She is in principle a very talented person who simply did not realize himself. Maybe her trouble is in this. But I can't tell anything wrong about the mother. I just feel sorry very sorry.
- After all, she is eighty-six years old and she is alone?
- She is not alone. She has a girlfriend who supports it helps in everything. My mother bought her house in Italy, so everything is wonderful. And about me she said that I want to kill her. Therefore, I can't even call my mother. Just go sometimes in the temple and pray for her. So and Olga does.
- Mother accuses you, her daughters, in the fact that you sold the paintings of the great great-grandfather, Peter Konchalovsky. It's true?
- Sorry, but the paintings of Konchalovsky sold our mother. Not us with Olga. They were divided equally between all the grandchildren of Peter Petrovich: one part of the pictures got Nikita Sergeevich (and, in my opinion, he did not share a single work), the second - Andrei Sergeevich, and the third - mother, who immediately sold many paintings, and some have passed Olga, following this at the notary. I was kept "workbench". Soon the mother called and said: "Now they will take pictures of paintings, bring yours." My spouse then said: "You will never see her anymore." So it happened. Everything was sold. More, in my opinion, in our family there is not a single picture of Konchalovsky, in any case I have. Although I offered to make copies. I made a copy of Surikova's work. Could make a copy of any painting. But it turned out to be no one. The main thing is that these things in the museum that the portrait of Meyerhold is the work of Konchalovsky, in the museum. It is good that what remains belongs to Russia.
With younger sister Olga. She actress was filmed in the film "Confrontation" by Father's Book
Photo: Personal Archive Daria and Olga Semenov
- You took part in the battle for your father's apartment in the house on the embankment, which almost got some dark personalities?
"I refused the share in this apartment, I gave the keys, and the deer was on all the battles. And what is the role in all of this our mother, I do not know. I saw television reports that some very scary people settled there. I came there once. And - Oh! No comments…
- In September, there will be twenty-five years since the death of Julian Semenovich. Still, how unfairly early it happened!
- Yes, dad went too early - at sixty-one year, did not have time to do a lot. But there is a house-museum in Crimea, in Mughalatke, where he worked so well, there is his chair, there is his boxing gloves. Thanks Ole! This is its efforts saved. And you can come to the muhalatka, sit down in the papino chair, put your hands on boxing gloves - and feel His presence. But the spirit of the Father, unfortunately, and from there leave. The man who is watching the Museum home often makes some details there. Suddenly there are some miniatures between the fragments of the aircraft from Vietnam, a written typewriter of the Father and his newspapers, some kind of ... Women's line is introduced, the father is not peculiar at all. Olya says: "Come and throw out everything you think about." And I believe that there it is necessary to simply put the screen and give the record of the only creative evening of the Father in Ostankino, which took place ten years before his death. More on central television was not allowed.
- Julian Semenovich, he smoked a lot. And drank. No shore yourself.
- Saw a lot. But when I wrote, I was not triggered. But smoked during work, without ceasing, simply did not take out the cigarettes from the mouth. Once this case threw - when he found tuberculosis. Father then went to Yugoslavia to be treated. Recruited and then lit up again.
- Your first fellowship with a fellow students turned out to be a speed. And how did Julian Semenovich refer to your second husband, Alexey Begaku, the artist, who had also had a successful TV presenter in recent years?
- I do not know. And now the Father is no longer asked. He offered me other options for marriage, but they were unacceptable for me. In those days, we lived on Suvorovsky Boulevard in the house of polar shoes on the fourth floor. And I already smoked. And I go to the balcony and see: it is the green "Zhigulenok", and in it - Alexey. And so he stood under my windows night at night. How could it be indifferent? Alexey is the only man from whom I wanted to have children.
- Nevertheless, living in marriage twenty-five years, you are no longer together ...
"The problem is that when the first son was born, Alex felt not the only child and realized that he didn't want it. And here the planets women and men diverged. In different orbits. But we had contacts on work, on travel, in painting we were near. Therefore, many years remained together. I accepted the decision to part. But I relate to the greatest respect for Alexey. He is a wonderful person and a talented artist, and I wish him only good. When I see something or hear: "Alexey Begak" - I immediately have tears, my heart is spine ... Let him live as he wants. I am guilty myself in everything. I know.
- You said your eldest son died. Can I ask how this happened?
- You know, he was a walk. I then lived in the village of Darynino, which we built with Alex. The son came at six in the morning, took me by his hand and told how the night went. And one day he did not come. And at twelve called his friend Paul and said: "Max no longer, he was killed." But in the death certificate it was written that he died from a heart attack. I saved my son in the Don monastery, opened Savan - and he had a blue trail from his neck. What is it like that?! For three thousand dollars, which he asked me the day before? Kill for three thousand debt?! Let it be on the conscience of those people who did it.
- You had no strength to excite a criminal case?
- I had no desire. Son no longer return. And to live in peace with such a sin more complicated than in the zone. Besides, I know who did it. When I come to the grave to my son, this man is often sitting there. He will see me and runs away to the other end of the cemetery. Then, when I'm leaving, turning around - he sits again. So, it grows wines, it is gnawing. So let him live with it.
- Is it true that your younger son Philip left a television manager's career for the sake of farming?
- Truth. And he was an excellent manager. He is now called on TV, I do not know if it will be back or not. I advise Philip Support these two spheres, although it is probably difficult. He has a stunning farming in the Bryansk region - two hundred hectares. I hope he will not give up this business. Although, of course, it is not easy to engage in this business in the conditions of our country. Nevertheless, he still keeps.
The younger son, Philip, was a successful teleporter, and now he is engaged in farming
Personal archive Daria and Olga Semenov. Photo: Mikhail Rusak
- And you also have the granddaughter of Vasilisa, Daughter Philip. Tell us about her.
- She is two years old, and she is such a hooligan! I think to give it to the Cadet Corps, because the Soviet education system is killed, and there are languages, discipline and those knowledge that can really come in handy in life. And then she can choose anything. Here I did not get Mata Hari, as Dad wanted. It was not in me for this necessary qualities, and from Vasilis, the intelligence will definitely work out. (Laughs.) However, no, Mata Hari had a sad finale. No need to work for several intelligence. It is necessary to serve only your country, and I prefer it to be Russia. And it is necessary to live here. I tried to tries to England. It did not work, thank God. One of my local familiar, submitted by the UK, but Russian in spirit, says that sometimes comes to the embassy and just sit there - to listen to Russian. Because longing in the homeland. There is no country in the world better than Russia.
- Agree. And you still lived in Cyprus for three years. Agree, the weather is still better.
- You know, I experienced the most serious natural cataclysm in Cyprus. I spent there winter with two sons. And the earthquake began. I remember, we watched the news of the BBC, and suddenly the tv went around the room! And the next day the sky became black and the shower went with a hail. Grad was such that all insurance companies were struggling, because all the cars were broken. But after when the storm passed, how good, how fresh were roses! (Laughs.) The sky was beautiful, the sea is beautiful! And I, and my sons remembered these days well. But I do not have longing in Cyprus. I never look back, I always want to go only forward.
- Why did you leave there?
- In Cyprus, no one needs painting. If I were engaged in agriculture or trade, it would be a successful way there. But I am an artist. In England, I worked in the gallery of David Harrington. But, unfortunately, she closed. The tragedy happened, and David did not. What did I have to do - look for other galleys? So I returned to Russia. Fortunately, I have a membership ticket of the Union of Artists. True, he was all in some subteps, had to restore. It turned out the ticket is necessary to exhibit here.
- Why are you grateful to fate?
- For my son Philip. For the fact that he survived after a terrible road accident that could walk. He spent two years on recovery after injections. He has legs - as if shot by the fraquence. Because the son was lying in the knives for a long time, and when they were taken out, traces remained. And I am grateful for my father. I can not forgive myself that was not with him in the last days. I have a cross, which was on dad. He is not small. Father was a mighty, and the cross is under the face. Chain and cross. I feel in it the energy of my father. And every morning I read prayers with him ...