We meet in a cozy restaurant near the place where Maxim lives now. As a welcoming owner, he came to the meeting a little earlier. Found the most awkward table and has already managed to make an order. In a glass he has fun bubbles a cocktail. Yes, and he himself sparkles like splashes of champagne.
So, time to sum up. What baggage did you come to forty years?
Maxim Averin: "I will start from afar. I am not only playing movies and the theater now, but also teach. At the Academy of Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov. So from my students I learned a great expression: "I reset!" When I heard, I liked it so! I realized that the fortothetics turned out to worn. I even began to dream dreams - open doors. Imagine, I still see dreams! Moreover, they have such cinematographic and fantastic me - I fly! I did not think that in forty years I will stay so romantic. Yes, and they are colored. With internal installation, flights for some tunnels, with departure to the orbit of the planet. I am amazed sometimes what happens to me in life, and in dreams.
Of course, the revaluation of many things happened. I used to know what pain is. But I saw the nape of acquaintances. I did not think that so many people who could not forgive success. It inspires to survive. I am not angry, not malicious, I study forgive, and this is the most difficult job in life. I'm working on it. At least my forty years old has become comfortable to live. As Lyudmila Markovna Gurchenko said: "I can not break me, you can kill!"
He served eighteen years at the "Sachirikon" theater, Maxim decided to leave the scene. Photo: Maxim Averin Personal Archive.
After all, you left Satiron, who gave almost twenty years of life. Why? What for?
Maxim: "The repertoire theater is one hundred fifty people. And everyone has the right to his starry hour. And I feel sorry for time. And then, probably, I have from Raikina: When I understand how I do it, I cease to be interesting. The thrill goes away. And I still treat my audience with respect. Of course, I'm scared even, because when you enter the theater for twenty years and you work in his walls of eighteen years old is a huge piece of life. And I did not think that someday this my scheme broke. But nothing, I went ahead. "
With "dehakhare" - the same story? Or is this series for you - milestone in life?
Maxim: "It was just a role. It would be possible to sit in this series of ten years. And cut the coupons with success. Ride with concerts. But I am an artist, not a policeman. I just performed my job well. And he left there, because I understood: I did everything there. And grown, and grown. And the channel and producers really wanted to continue. NTV for some time even called "deaf-tv". (Laughs.) But I do not want to go out so quickly. I am an artist, and not "Ceremonary".
But many assured that you too exploit this image ...
Maxim: "Oh, these stories:" Maxim, you arouse cheap popularity! "Guys, if you knew what this popularity I was worth it! This is daily work! I haven't had a single day so that I think: "I'm a star, to you!" I did not have time for it. I row for ten years daily. I am daring in airplanes - because I believe that the artist should be a valid player; Not five times a month to go to the scene, and daily. This is training. I can't sit and wait for me Nikita Sergeevich! "
Oh, this famous phrase about the call from Mikhalkov! ..
Maxim: "With her, by the way, a funny story is connected. I came to him on a creative evening, and he: "I heard, heard you said that you could not wait for a call from me." And I: "Yes, I can not wait, so I came myself!" But it's true! The artist is a perishable product. I rarely look at my pictures, and then I opened the album: "Mother of God, is it me?" Opa, I am another. I am changing. Everyone says: Here you are filming in the series. So this is a time format. And where are your pictures that only live up to festivals - and that's it? I can not wait! I can't not play. I was given once the book of Andrei Mironova. There I really liked his phrase: "They reproach me that I am removed everywhere. But artist, unfortunately, you need to learn how to hurry and catch up! "
The role of a policeman in the television film "Ceremak" became for the actor sign. Photo: Maxim Averin Personal Archive.
During the filming of Glukhary, you tried yourself as a director. Why did you decide to take a place on the side of the camera?
Maxim: "Because I'm wondering. Because I see - this profession is leveled. Now the director more often acts as an emission for miceanscents. Profession leaves. Directors stopped working with actor. I'm talking to my guys now that there are practically no close-up in the movie. But this is like an x-ray. Immediately you can see who is who. It's lying - not lying. Therefore, today they are afraid of close-ups, and the actors do not know how to keep them. Twenty-five frames were born from it. The tra-ta so that the viewer does not miss. If you fill your story with meaning, inspire the idea there, the audience will not be boring. Look at Shukshina films, Tarkovsky. Look at these long panoramas. Look pictures of Parajanov, his collages are works of art. Visit Nikita Mikhalkov's creative evening, where he talks about important secrets. And now the frame is "from what was, then I loved." Artists left. For example, I ask the director: "What am I doing here?" - "You pronounce ..." - "Wait, I taught the text at home, I prepared for work! What do we do that we play? "Silence. All quickly, sweeping. Where is the profession? From here the actress in the frame is painted as if she is from the podium. Because fashionship today is most often former hairdressers. Founding few people can do. Recently, the girls presented a stunning wig. Jewelry work. No one can guess that it is not my hair. But such people are units. Profession leaves. The actress looks brightly, but plays the tragic scene, a catastrophe, and even in the books. Or she wakes up with a man in a frame, and painted so that it was as if only gathered. What nonsense? After love, you still did not drank eyelashes? " (Laughs.)
Now it happens that you advise something on the site or for her director?
Maxim: "Many saw an interview with the Ranevian journalist Natalia Krymova. Faina Georgievna says: "I did little." - "Why?" - "Because it was necessary to be submissive, probably, agree." And, damn it, I can't see a stupidity and stupidity, I can't agree with it! I disgust to see when the director, watching the actress in the frame, begins to dream something, combine silent lips. I can forgive naivety and guys, I can, because myself is the same. But dullness, no! It seems to me that I am a self-sufficient person and I have the right to afford to call things with my own names. Especially when it comes to work. Because for me the work has become the meaning of life. Here are only directly what is called. Because of this, I find it difficult to live. Because of this, I had trouble. There was a situation some time ago when I was forced to directly ask the director: "And when will you put a performance? Do you all think? Do you have fifteen thousand rubles tickets! You have Chulpan Hamatov and Maxim Averin in the bill of office are declared. How will you put something like that? "He began to swear, did not answer anything intelligible. The next day I asked me to move away with him, talk. "You know," he told me. - I'm so hard to work with you. You are such an artist ... We probably do not work out! ". Well, I left. Then I learned from the press that, it turns out, I threw the theater and put Yevgeny Mironov, and wonderful Chulpan Hamatov. Well ... so it happens. "
Proud?
Maxim: "I can forgive Peter Todorovsky (smiles), to which I came once on the samples, he was already old. He asked: "Well, tell me about yourself." I started telling. And he: "Wow, yes you are a star!" This is Peter Todorovsky, whom I was ready to just sit on the set and write down. Who are you? I come to the sample, I adore samples, and suddenly the director turns to me ... sing.
What it is? Hey, wake up, who are you? I am Maxim Averin, the whole country knows me and even abroad.
Do you know what else is doing on samples? The signs are given, on which some number is written, and you have some kind of represented with it. Horror! Therefore, I speak to my students: "Understand that you are humans, and this is a job, and you should, you have the right to declare yourself!" How else? You invited me to the sample, you know my name. If not - have elementary respect: you have one hundred and fifty assistants, they can't give director of the sheet with the surname and name? Respect disappeared. When I was still studying at school, probilities did in the theater studio. We went to the institutes to try listening to. I come to Vgik, read Mayakovsky, I have been told: "Stop, stop, stop! Come closer, show your teeth. " - "I do not understand". - "Well, smile!" - "I'm not a horse!". Just found then what to answer, turned and went away. "
You talk about your full zeroing to forty years, reboot. For some reason immediately remembered that his one of the last roles of Great Gurchenko played in the film with a similar name "Markovna. Reboot "with your participation. How did you work together?
Maxim: "I was very lucky that I worked with Lyudmila Markovna. I am her last partner. And this is insanely proud of. I often remember about it. When I was thrown on the ambrusuras - type, Maxim, enter our position, "I always thought:" What would have done Lucia? "She is always categorical that it concerned work. Sharp. Now there will be evening of her memory in the Kremlin. I'm not talking about Lyus: "Was". Because she is always! "
Have you become friends?
Maxim: "No, we were not friends. But the time when we worked together, composed our story, fought with a television format, it helped me a lot in the future life and profession. I have a part in my monospectacle that is dedicated to her. Time is going, for five years, as it is not with us. And I can't remove this number. In her face it is for me - the continuation of all those people who gave their lives to the audience, scene, cinema. She was great, star. Gurchenko is a whole planet, no, the universe. This is an actress that could enjoy the entire palette, the entire piano keyboard. From and to. To be tragic, both musical, and comedy. Today I fall into the horror when I see how young actresses come to the set and say: "Oh, I can't do it! And I will not do it! " And we must be prepared absolutely to everything. "
Maxim Averin on the set of the series "Ceremc". Photo: Maxim Averin Personal Archive.
In short, you are a workaholic. And what about rest? Do not love?
Maxim: "How am I - and I do not like? (Laughs.) I really like to rest! "
With gypsies?
Maxim: "... yes! (Laughs.) Although now it is often happening when I say: "Stop, stop, I want just silence!" There was no such thing before. We rested a huge part, went somewhere. For example, for the new year - we recruit the "Soviet champagne", a disk "Irony of Fate", Salad Olivier, the fight of the Kuranta - and somewhere in Indonesia or Thailand. Sometimes such trips were associated with extreme. I remember, once in Thailand went. We had to fly to Bangkok, from there, by local airlines, one more flight, further - on the ferry to the island. We arrive at the airport, and we say that the flight is delayed. I see some kind of girl who beats in hysterics: it turns out, she also had to fly on vacation, but the flight was also detained. She quietly went home, returned to the appointed time, and the plane was already flew away. Then I said that I will not go anywhere from the airport. All our huge parties were decided to stay. Found some room. They drank, sat, have passed - right there, in a hiking. In general, the clock flew over eight. However, on the shutter it turned out that we were late for the connection flight. Next - already in the new year. Solution: Going by car. Even eight hours. And the new year is going to us! Then on the ferry - three hours. It is good that on the island we were met by friends who arrived earlier. So they just did not know us, we were "dead." We were put to sleep. During this time, Oliviechka was cut, everyone was prepared. We woke up and happily celebrated New Year! Also saved people. "
What is it like?
Maxim: "Two men drank firmly and after the new year we went to swim. They began to attach the flow into the sea (there just a steep flow was, RIP Current is called). They could not get out. I saw my friend of Volodya Most (actor "Satirikon" theater) pulled them. They then came to visit us and stood up with the words: "Guys, you saved our lives!". By the way, so told their salvation, that later in the restaurant my friend Gankka Steklov (actress Agrippina Steklov. - Approx. Aut.) I swore all evening. The fact is that in Thailand a lot of converted - whether men, or women, are called Lady battles. So, having accepted on the chest, we began to look at them to look at and try to guess who is who. "
"I'm not angry, not malicious, I study forgive, and this is the most difficult job in life," the Averin believes. Photo: Maxim Averin Personal Archive.
So can you drink? And also, looking at you, many are confident that you and drugs indulge - otherwise why is such an always cheerful ...
Maxim: "I never used and do not use drugs, I swear! And about the alcohol ... I will not lie, that now I do not drink mojito, but juice. (Laughs.) I drank, of course. But I understand that there is responsibility - work! There was one case when I did not appear on the site. But I flew from Vladivostok, changing the genital, ugh you, time zones. " (Laugh.)
Did you have a remark?
Maxim: "No, I myself was awkward. Guys on the site, on the contrary, all leveled. Pretended to have nothing happened. But I apologized. Inside me sits very large censor. And if I'm ashamed, I'm trying to fix it. "
They say, in your life and another change: you built a new home, where and moved. And how old housing did not suit?
Maxim: "When I left the old apartment, I realized how much it washed. She became black in energy. And when I built a new one, made inside everything, as I dreamed: the office, where all my books finally got up, a large dining table. And also - a fireplace. He is true, not real, but now such technologies that looks like real. "
Probably support the perfect order there? In the acting circles there are legends about your pedanticity ...
Maxim: "I careless absolutely. If someone had seen my apartment, it would be crazy. Everything is scattered, forever everyone pick me up. But there is very cozy. There I become myself. Access to my housing has only close familiar. When I still did the repair, the designers offered me a straight Palace of Louis. And I: "Understand, I would live in it." My apartment is very men and solemn at the same time. It can be seen that Maxim lives here. And lives at the maximum. "