The writing dynasties do not exist, since the gift of words by inheritance is not transmitted. Therefore, children of writers have no temptation to use Blat in the profession. However, even if such an opportunity had, our heroine would hardly have walked along the latter path. Such she is a man, old hardening. Just achieved on their own, without whining and empty reflection. And found his own niche - became a historian, he received a degree. However, according to her recognition, not a scientific career was the meaning of her life. In the first place was only a family close.
Ariadna Pavlovna, probably, is similar to his father. Bazhov recognized that he loves Moscow from the window of the train going to the Urals. So his youngest daughter, despite the sixty years spent in the capital, does not call himself a Muscovite - only by Urals. With the character of a certain starter. Solid, somewhere even stubborn. Hospitable and at the same time wary: when they look closely to the strangers, but if they are taken, then forever and with a soul. A frank conversation under delicious coffee with candy in the old Writer village in this convinces as nothing else.
Pulp fate
In the gloomy fairy tales of Bazhov, mutual love is rare. Or something completely fleeting, elusive. Why is it not clear: he was happy in marriage. The case when the sinks intended to each other are found and then no tests can separated them. And in the life of Pavel Petrovich and his adorable Valentine sometimes raged cruel storms.
Ariadna Pavlovna, your parents have a classic story of love teacher and student. What did they tell you about their meeting?
Ariadna Pavlovna Bazhov-Gaidar: "Mom said that all the students admired the dad. True, women have always been not indifferent to him, despite the fact that he never cared for anyone - was devoted to my mommy. And the teacher was strict, criticized her for writings, but on graduation, (apparently, looking at it) made a proposal. And they happily lived forty years. Later, my mother confessed me that the last day of the father loved the same as much as on the first day of their livelihood. And I, having lived with my husband forty-eight years, I can say the same. There is no secret - you just can't live without this person, and it is completely unimportant whether you are similar in nature as my parents, or are the exact opposite of each other as us with Timur. I will never forget one morning: Dad is already a laureate, a deputy, he sent a car to an important meeting, he gathered, it turns out, but suddenly hesitantly runs back - I forgot to kiss the Valyan.
Pavel Bazhov with wife Valentina. They had seven children, of whom only three daughters remained alive. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
Your parents survived the real tragedy, losing sons ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Yes, the eldest son Konstantin died shortly after birth. White Guards, knowing that Mother's Mother Bolshevik and in the run, determined the pregnant mother in the abrupt Barack, where everyone was lying with scarletina. So she and she and she, and the child, in the end he died. And dad just got to them and saw it all. The second son, three-year old, died when parents returned from Ust-Kamenogorsk to Ekaterinburg. Dad was driving with a typhus, with malaria, his mother hung his whole long road. Vovochka was cold on the same days, fell ill with the inflammation of the lungs, and it was no longer able to save him. And Alexey was killed by seventeen-year-old when he had an explosion during his work in practice. He was a mother's pet, and of course it was a terrible grief. There was another daughter who also died at birth ... So we stayed, three sisters - Olga, Elena and me. And everyone has retained dadname for this reason. Both of my older sisters were learned on engineers in Yekaterinburg. Olga graduated from the Mountain Institute, Elena - Polytechnic. Olga walked early, gave birth to two sons, Vladimir and Vyacheslav. She was with the family and remained to live in the Urals. Elena married Moskvich, moved to the capital, gave birth to Alexander's son, but a few years ago left life. So we have an extensive family tree, as you can see. "
I imagine what a reverent attitude was to you from the side of the parents after the whole thing ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Are wrong. (Smiles.) When I, the youngest, born, my mother asked the doctors: "Who I have?!" They answered her: "Girl!" - "Carry", "Mom said. So she wanted a boy. I told this story this story. (Smiles.) But over time I became a beloved daughter. I can not say that parents were shaking over us. Although they installed certain rules in the house that we, children, were obliged to strictly observe. We were not allowed not to obey, lie, swear. "
By the way, about Rugan. Today's playwrights are not sauing obscene vocabulary in their works. And how did the bazows referred to the shuffle words, despite the fact that the original language of the people of the Ural knew thoroughly?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "He did not love rudeness. And in our family under the ban was not only a mat, but in general there are some dashing expressions. "
Writer with his wife and their favorite dog. Bazhov has always been not indifferent to animals: in his courtyard there were constantly cats and dogs. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
You somehow called the father of the late blooming man, probably, bearing in mind the glory, overtaking him at sixty years - after the release of the book "Malachite box" with unique ties. But he was published before. What is the secret of his success?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "It's hard for me to judge. Apparently, time came. He was always passionately passionate about the folklore of the Native Ural Territory, kept the records of numerous old proverbs, sayings. It can be said that he was immersed in this flavor from birth. He was born in the factory family in the city of Sysert, the center of the mining industry. Dad was an intelligent child, Putued craving for knowledge and possessed simply phenomenal memory. For example, he knew on the heart of all Pushkin, whom he loved. Generally remembered everything instantly. By the way, my son Egor also possessed such exceptional memory. I am defeated his ability to grab everything literally on the fly. Probably, grandmads affected. In addition, my father not only wrote perfectly perfectly, he said great, it was not by chance in the seminary he was given a nickname Ritor. For his time, he was, of course, a very educated person. And intelligent. He treated the word so tremendously! He said that he was written by the people ... I remember somehow it goes in the morning after night work and asks my aunt Anna, as it is better to say about a special girl. Aunt says: "Write -" Sober ". "No," dad answers, "I already had it, I won't repeat." - "There is also an expression" as if out of the brushes fell "(meaning the gap belts of intertwined threads, where one color is particularly distinguished). - "But this is for sure!" - Father agreed. As for the "Malachite Casket", so I remember how he first introduced us to her. We had a table under the old lime in the garden, we all sat down for him, Dad brought a notebook and began to read. And I looked at him then completely different eyes: here's like my dad, and here such a stunning text, as he could come up so talented! I was proud of them. "
Contemporaries remember him as a person of a quiet, restrained, invisible, who spoke with a quiet voice, but many listened to him. Popularity has not changed it?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "No. To loud glory, noise, he was indifferent to the money. It was so raised - life values, the landmarks were others. And us, their children, he taught in the same vein. So now they ask me: "You, Mother Hydara Hydar, why do you live here, and not on a luxurious villa somewhere in Spain?!" And I invariably answer that I don't have it - it is first, and secondly, she, in fact, is not needed ... You know, our wooden house in Yekaterinburg has not changed. How to build it in 1911, so he remained in the 1950s. Father sought to spiritual, and not to the material. I remember when the Father's Father's Eve was excluded from the party for the book "Formation on the Go" (in the book of Bazhov referred to the memories of Mikhail Vasilyeva and other Heroes of the Civil War, by that time declared the enemies of the people. Pavel Petrovich fiercely defended his right and his right to have a party card . And a year later, January 27, 1938, he was restored in the party. - approx. Aut.), It was very difficult, only the salary of my aunt-librarian, who lived with us. And our natural economy is a vegetable garden. Dad himself all saved, grown, colop firewood. We and the cow was, which Mama Dais. Mommy I have a heroine - how she was managed with this big family! Now, when I also have a big family - sixteen people, I can appreciate it. "
Glory came to Bazhov only sixty years. Our heroine calls the father of a late blossom man. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
How and when Pavel Petrovich usually worked?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "At night, behind the desk. Moreover, in recent years, the return of our gray cat from a walk has become a signal for waste to sleep. The gun pounded the dad in the window, he let me in, extinguished the light and went to rest. By the way, Dad loved animals at all, we always lived cats, dogs, mostly karany. And the last dog, the white-yellow Ralph, turned out to be a place of a setter with a husky ... Dad's day usually did not write, but earned for our big family. And this employment does not make it - he was a workaholic. "
What was your father in everyday life? What dish, for example, considered the most delicious?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "In everyday life he was unassuming, even ascetic. He adored buckwheat porridge, which I can't stand. (Smiles.) He also liked our Ural dumplings, pies that baked mom. "
Pavel Bazhov with her beloved grandson Nikita. Ariadne gave birth to him at the age of twenty-one. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
Timur and his team
I wonder how the wise boxes treated fans of her daughter?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "One story pops up in memory. In adolescence, when the theme of love is of particular curiosity, various books of evil properties began to appear on the table, so let's say. I took them in classmates. Now the "strawberry" with a description of bed scenes looks rather innocently, but then dad, seeing one of these works once, did not say anything, left. And returning, brought Tomik Rostan. Naturally, I was immediately fascinated by the Rostan. That was his upbringing. I studied perfectly and even a little bit offended that dad did not praise me for five. And he explained it simply: "If you brought two, it would be very shameful - you have all the opportunities to learn." As for fans ... there were many of them. I was pretty, now my granddaughter, Masha Gaidar, is very similar to me at that time. Dad did not respond in any way to the conversion boys. By the way, one is still alive alone my boyfriend, classmate. He calls me, and we are discussing "hearty" questions. He has a pacemaker, and I survived two heart attacks, so we have uniting themes. " (With smile.)
What traditions in the house were strictly observed?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "To gather everyone together for dinner, where everyone, regardless of age, had the right to express his point of view on whatever matter, and he was listened carefully. The birthday of parents was celebrated in one day. The fact is that mom was born twenty-fifth January, and dad - twenty-seventh. So, twenty-seventh usually sat down a noisy and fun feast. Moreover, they came, as a rule, not friends, but our numerous relatives - Four sisters with their families, and dad, the only child from their parents, such a clan really liked. The father was pretty Caucasian, and all the Writers of the Urals around him smoke. He spoke figuratively, intelligibly, masterfully knew how to talk, and his speech was always not just an interesting, and instructive, I would even say. When the Father has already become famous, they began to come him comrades from Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev ... And during the war, the door of our house was practically not closed - we were driving our father's colleagues from all over the country. We had Boris Field, Sergey Mikhalkov, Konstantin Simonov ... "
And who of these legendary personalities made the strongest impression on you?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Poet Alexey Surkov I remember me. He spoke all night with his father and then did not even go to the hotel, but lay down in our grandmother's chest, although he was a rather major man. Konstantin Mikhailovich Simonov. It was calm, so much in myself, a concentrated man ... wonderful. I remember, with my husband Timur and the family of Simonov went on the car in Yugoslavia. Timur sat behind the wheel, and since the road was long, night, he began to fall asleep at the wheel. Simonov immediately noticed, began to read poems - and their own, and strangers - so sincerely, that Timur was instantly revived. And when my first book was published about the father's eyes "Eyes of Daughter", Konstantin Mikhailovich, together with his wife, Larisa wrote me a huge warmth letter, in which there were words that I was well done, I support my memory and that no one except me, this would not. So it was a unique person. "
Timur Gaidar became the second husband Ariadna. He made her a sentence three weeks after their dating in the resort. In the photo - Timur with the son of Egor on the rink. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
With your husband, Timur Arkadyevich Gaidar you met a year after the death of the Father, on vacation in Gagra. It turns out, marriage put the beginning of a resort novel?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "It is. We, children of writers, rested a large youth company. When I arrived and joined the buddies, I was informed that only Timur Gaidar is here from celebrities. I saw him - so, nothing special. Everything has changed in one evening. I remember him well: they sat in some cafe, and we were Timur with each other. And so we looked at each other's eyes. He had green, with black, long, fluffy eyelashes, like girls. He then told me that they had in his father, Arkady Petrovich, and as well as his father, he would fit them, because classmates teased for such beauty. And I immediately liked it. Ten days later it was already clear that we would not be able to part. And twenty days he made me an offer. But nevertheless, we went out: I'm in Yekaterinburg, then Sverdlovsk, and Timur - to Moscow, and from there he began to persist in the capital. I decided not immediately. For half a year, we still got married - then he came to me, then I am, in addition, we led long telephone conversations. Our novel was rather saturated. But here it should be borne in mind that we met not in youth, and already adults who consisted of people with the current idea of the world: he was twenty-five, I'm more for a year, I already taught in the University of Urals, defended his thesis and got used to What am I independent, with my own name. And then I needed a lot to change a lot ... As a result, I came to the conclusion, I need to recognize the Championship of Timur, the absolute leader in nature, or to disperse. And so I found myself in Moscow. " (Smiles.)
According to the experience of their parents, you already guessed, what a life with a writer looks like ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "No, we all happened with a thimurochka differently. He was expansive by nature, literally boiled at work, always leaving for business trips. Then he has a submarine, then the cadet study, the Baltic Sea, then the military department of the newspaper "True" ... such a daily battle. "
Your husband first glorified not his acts, but the book of Father Timur and his team. He never comprehended about this, because the Arkady Gaidar loop at that time was powerful?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "No, he was quite self-sufficient. The only thing tormented him that he spent little time with his father. His parents differed early, when he was still a completely child, and then the meetings became rare. And when Arkady Gaidar has already passed away, he often dreamed of Timur - that they go somewhere together, talk ... So this dissatisfaction from too short together with his life. And with our son Yegor, her husband was extremely meticulous father. When the child was born, Timur lost himself from joy. What scrapbooks he wrote to me to hospital! "What is he? How smiles?! I'm not allowed here and even the flowers do not give to convey! Write what you need to buy, I'll get everything! "So it was a crazy dad, which in the future became his son with the best friend and like-minded person."
The brothers tied a strong friendship. Nikita and Yegor always laid perfectly, despite the ten-year difference in age. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
Tests for real men
You have given an excellent education and generally invested a lot in it ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "First, he had magnificent genes. And secondly, definitely, we gave him the opportunity to learn. He went to the good 152th school, located next to our house, then entered the Moscow State University ... But he did not spend all the time behind the textbooks: he played football, and in the yard with friends disappeared. At the same time, it developed much faster than peers, and he was never bored alone - he always knew how to find a lesson for himself. Early started reading. When we lived abroad, Egor had the opportunity to read what was not here and in risen. He studied normally, only a handwriting he had a terrible: at the end of his life he did not disassemble him and appealed for help to the secretary. But Hydarov is not very handwriting. Here is the Bazhava, on the contrary, calligraphic. (With a smile.) But the languages were easily given. In six years in Cuba, he mastered Spanish without problems, played with local guys in chess ... And when he studied in the fourth grade (we lived at that moment in Belgrade), I myself asked me to go to go to English courses. In general, he grew up obedient, calm child, and in character more looked at me than on his father. Timur brought up his courage - in the pool forced to jump from a high tower into the water, let's say. And the demands of the Father should have been carried out strictly. In the same way, for Arkady, at one time it was very important that the Son did not grown a coward: he specifically started him in the Dark Forest, hiding him there and watched him from behind the bush, as a small man would cope with this situation. "
Peter is the eldest son of Hydara from the first marriage. He decided not to go into politics, but to do business. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
Did you have a trust relationship with Egor?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "We were friends with him. Like now I am the best girlfriend for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I know that my great-grandfather Katya, the daughter of Petit, the son of Egor, will believe me secrets who will not tell parents. And Egor shared with me many. So I came to me here, I sat down at the table, ate my beloved Belyashi, I was cooked me, and I talked to him for a long time. And I did not forget to call him daily. "
At some point he got involved in a policy that it, in fact, and thugged. You did not approve this one step?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "From the very beginning, it was against it to go to the government. No doubt that it is dangerous and not at all. I foresee further events, but no one listened to me. The fact is that Yegor is not something to rush into politics, he rather very much wanted to radically change the existing economic structure of the country. But we have these spheres so interrelated ... By the way, in the public service, Egorie very bitten that he had no paternal ability to make contact and communicate with completely different people, quickly finding suitable topics. Egor was an introvert. Perhaps not pronounced, but nevertheless. And thinly feeling that diligently hiding from others this line. "
And he continued the family tradition - he married the daughter of the science fiction writer Arkady Strugatsky Mary ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Yes, three famous surnames came together in one club ... True, first the first wife appeared - Irina Mishina, the most beautiful girl at the cottage. And we have never had just brides girls with whom Yegor would introduce me, and then they would partly parted, somehow were immediately his wife. With Ira, they connected such a youthful love. Later, many years later, I asked my son when he realized that they were absolutely different with his wife, and Egor answered me that very quickly. However, it was already ashamed to admit everything that hurried. Two wonderful children were born in this marriage - Peter and Masha. Peter thirty three, he consisted of a person and had already managed to please me by the great-kicks - Katya and the theme. Masha is now twenty-nine years old, she is engaged in science, but still seeks to politics, and it upsets me. (With a smile.) But even her father could not resist her - said that it was too late. And in marriage with Maria, his son Paul was born. He is now twenty-two years old. He was so called in honor of my father, although this contradicted the Gaidar tradition that the letter "P" must be present in male names. Timur was not too satisfied with this circumstance, but still agreed. "
Children Hydara Gaidar - Maria and Paul. The daughter inherited an interest in politics from his father. Photo: Personal archive Ariadna Bazhova-Gaidar.
To some extent, Egor repeated your destiny. You, too, the first time they married early, gave birth to a senior son Nikita Matveyevich ...
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Yes, Nikita was born in 1946, and I was still too young - twenty-one just. I then studied and the state exams handed over with an impressive belly. With the father of Nikita, a journalist, my first husband, who was older than me for ten years, I met when I came to practice in Tashkent, in the newspaper "Pravda East". He worked there with a responsible secretary. So, as you can see, they always attracted men creative. (Smiles.) For her husband, the birth of the firstborn has become a whole event. For me, too, of course, but in addition to this I have many other desires arose. Bear on dancing, for example. Or ride skating, skiing. Age still made himself felt, so I am against early marriages. (Smiles.) Nikita brought up basically my mom. Dad, of course, loved her grandson very much. However, like other grandchildren - Volodya and Alik, sons of my sisters. Nikita graduated from the Ural State University, defended his master's thesis on philosophy and sociology and then worked in this area. "
What kind of brothers had a relationship?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Beautiful! They have a difference at the age of smoothly ten years, and, I remember when Egor came to Yekaterinburg, it was necessary to literally restrain to give Nikita to sleep. Egor impatiently trampled near the door, and when finally received permission to enter, then it flew into the room as a hurricane and happily rushed to his brother. And later they always found the time for each other. "
Nikita Matveyevich has children?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Yes, Son Maxim, he is forty years old, he is a businessman. Recently, his daughter was born. "
I can not ask about your profession. Are you inherited from your father?
Ariadna Pavlovna: "Yes, he wanted me to become a historian. And I initially dreamed of journalism and arrived at the journalism. But later I realized that I still need to go to the historical graduate school, and never sang about this turn. I adored rummate in the archives. And with the dad attracted us the same topics. He was in his youth in detail by Pugachevsky Bunlet, but his manuscript did not publish, and then I continued to develop this development. In general, he helped him - disassembled letters, sorted the card file. But if we speak essentially, then all my work (forty-six years of work experience, the protection of the candidate thesis, doctoral) was somehow the background. In the first place was only a family. I somehow allocated all myself. At forty-six years already became a grandmother, and there was always a lot of worries. In August, I will have eighty eight years old in August, and health seems to be no longer enough for the strength on a lot, and sometimes come, you know, the thoughts that they are tired of living ... but it's worth seeing the Tempora to which two and a half years, as Immediately, the like from the head disappears. "