Bathi ubuciko bokuphila abavunyelwe wonke umuntu. Abaningi bethu baphila impilo edlule, ngaphandle kokusola naso. ULeonid Yarmolnik nalobu buciko ungumnikazi kahle, kepha uyavuma ukuthi kuyadingeka ukuthi usebenzele kuye. Ungalahlekelwa abangane, gcina uthando, zihloniphe - la amanani wangempela afanele. Manje uLeonid Isaakovich uyavuma ukuthi isithakazelo esikhulu empilweni umzukulu wakhe wePetya, oseneminyaka emibili ubudala.
- Leonid, ukhonze e-Tagenanka edumile. Ngabe ucabanga ukuthi uma ithinta eyake yabuya ngale ndlela, ingabe izofunwa yi-Society New?
- Cha Cha. Inkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi eTaganka ngeke futhi yenzeke lapho isixuku ehhovisi lamathikithi, emgqeni wamathikithi ebusuku. Amangalisayo kwakuyisikhathi. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, ithiyetha eTathenan, futhi lapho kungenzeka ukuzwa iqiniso lokuthi iningi lethu lifuna ukuzwa. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, ukuthi ungazichazela kanjani izingane ukuthi hhayi kuphela ukudla okungokomoya - amathikithi okuya eBig, Taganka, kuya "kwabanjengesimanje", izincwadi - bebesekushodaneni nangomvidele? Empeleni, kwakukhona isikhathi esiyinqaba, futhi umuzwa unjengami uma kungenjalo nami. Angiqondi manje, ngokuthi "ngeBlatu", hhayi esitolo esikhulu esitolo, mina ngithenge, nganikwa umvimba, ushizi, ubhanana? Kubukeka sengathi lokhu kuyimpilo yomunye umuntu. Ngithathe ubhanana ngendodakazi encane. Amawolintshi, umvimba, i-buckwheat, i-spaghetti yugoslavsky - konke bekuyintokozo. Ngiyakhumbula, u-Oleg Ivanovich Yankovsky wayelalela lezi spaghetti ... Yebo, konke bekungasekho, futhi kuzisole akudingekile. Mhlawumbe ngoba kwakukhona inkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi eTaganka, kwenzeka okuthile emphakathini futhi kwaholela ekushintsheni. Futhi manje nginesithukuthezi sinentshisekelo ngokwenzekayo, ngoba nginomuzwa wokuthi izinto eziningi zithathelwa indawo. Lezi zikhala ezingapheli ngomqondo kazwelonke kanye nokuthanda izwe. Kuyo yonke le minyaka ngiyaqonda ukuthi ukuthanda izwe kuganywe ngezinto ezilula ngokuphelele. Lesi yisiqephu sakho somhlaba, isikole sakho, abazali, unkosikazi, izingane, izinja, uma ufuna. Futhi abangane nakanjani. Abangani bengibabeka endaweni yokuqala. Umndeni, umsebenzi, ukubukwa, ukuzilibazisa - konke lokhu kungashintsha, futhi abangane kuphela abakunikeza ukuqiniseka ukuthi wenza kahle, kepha yini hhayi. Ngoba kuphela abangakutshela: "Uyisidididi." Into ebaluleke kakhulu empilweni yami manje isimzukulu wami. Bengivele ngilungele ukuzalwa kwakhe. Iningi lakho konke engikuthandayo.
- Wena, mhlawumbe, omunye wabaculi bokuqala baseSoviet abathola ukuthandwa kwethelevishini. Ekuqaleni, uyitholile futhi wenza okuningi kuthelevishini.
- Ngokuphambene nalokho, umabonakude wenzele okuningi. I-TV yinto elula kakhulu ukuthola isigwebo sezibukeli ngokushesha okukhulu: noma ukwamukela, noma ungayithandi. Angifuni ukubonakala kahle kakhulu, kepha ngokuthandwa, noma yimuphi umculi waseSoviet, uma ethi akunandaba. Ngeminyaka emikhulu - amashumi ayisishiyagalombili, sasikuthanda ukufakwa e "Kinopanoram", "izibani zoNyaka oMusha", izixhumanisi ze-TV. Kwabe sekukhona, kubonakala sengathi kuneziteshi ezimbili kuphela, ngakho-ke ubonile izithameli eziyizigidi eziningi, cishe njalo ngekhulu lesibili noma lesithathu le-USSR. Angikhumbuli ukuthi ukuthandwa kwakufika ngaluphi usuku kimi.
Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweLeonid Yarmolnik
- Ngabe unabalandeli abaxakile abasebenza emnyango?
- hhayi. Futhi lapho umqondo wokuthi "uphawu lwezocansi" uvele kwabanye, ngangikhazimulisa uNkulunkulu, ngadlula. Cishe ngangithandwa yimfihlo. (Ehleka.) Kepha kwakukhona njalo amantombazane ahlanya akuthanda, futhi awuqondi ukuthi yini. Bengivame ukutshelwa: "Ngingasithatha kanjani isithombe nawe?" Futhi manje bathi: "ULeonid, ngenxa kaNkulunkulu, ungasithatha isithombe nawe, umama wami uyakuthanda kakhulu!" Kuhlala kuncane ukulinda, iminyaka emihlanu noma eyisithupha, bese uthi: "Ugogo wami uyakuthanda kakhulu!" (Ehleka.)
- Futhi kwenzeka kanjani ukuthi, kuvame ukuvela esikrinini sethelevishini, wena, ake sithi, "Akuvaliwe"?
- Lapho impi enkulu yaphuma. Nokho, ngaphambi kokuba impi impi, ayizange ifike. I-Yankovsky futhi ishiya nginamathela kimi ekotishi. Futhi ngangiphakathi kwabo njengezipesheli. U-Oleg Ivanovich wayekholelwa ukuthi mina, ngishiya ithelevishini ohlelweni lwaphakade, saluhlasela kahle umsebenzi wobuciko. Lawa ayengamashumi ayisishiyagalolunye. Ayikho i-cinema noma yaseshashalazini. E-Cinemas, kukhombise ukuthengiswa kwezimoto kanye nezitolo zefenisha. Kimina, okuwukuphela kokuvuvukala kuleyo minyaka kwakufanele kusebenze neVlad Leaf, kungabikwa, intatheli yethelevishini egqamile. Kungaleso sikhathi lapho ngabona ukuthi ithelevishini ingenziwa ngokungathi sína. UVlad waqiniseka ukuthi sengivele ngidume kangangokuba ngeke "ngize ngalivimba." Futhi u-Oleg wabheka okuphambene. Futhi leli kwakuyiqiniso layo: Ithelevishini iletha ukuthandwa okubanzi futhi ngasikhathi sinye kungasusa umgwaqo emuva. Isibonelo, umngani wami wesikhathi eside uYura Nikolaev wadlala enkundleni yemidlalo yeshashalazi ebizwa nge-pushkin, enamathela e-cinema, kepha wonke umuntu uyazi futhi embona njengemibukiso ye-TV ethandwa kakhulu "kanye" nenkanyezi yasekuseni ". NgoLena Yakubovich. ULenya unqandeke okokuqala enkombeni yami yokuqala yokupenda "amaholide aseMoscow" futhi watheleleka i-cinema. Kepha, noma yini ayidlalayo ngokuzayo, okokuqala, ibonwa njengohlelo oluholayo "lwensimu yezimangaliso", asevele yanikeza ikota yekhulu leminyaka, uma kungenjalo.
Ifilimu le-Cult "lelo Munnnhausen" lanqoba uthando olukhulu lwababukeli
Uzimele kusuka ku-movie "ukuthi uMünhhausen"
- Ngeminyaka yamashumi ayisishiyagalolunye, wawunomuzwa wokuthi umhlaba uvela ngaphansi kwezinyawo, noma ukwazile ukwenza into ethile emsebenzini ngezikhathi zaseSoviet?
- Ngaba namafilimu ngaleso sikhathi, kusukela ekupheleni kweminyaka. "Ukuthi uMünhhhausen" (hhayi ngaphandle kobunzima uZakharov wangiyisa endimeni, kodwa kimi, uSasha Abdulov, u-Oleg no-Inna Churikov) nefilimu "defech". Indima incane, kepha izwe lonke lingicaphulile: "Futhi ngithi: Ungapheli amandla!" - "Yebo, uhambe, imbuzi!" Nginamafilimu amaningi. Futhi muva nje bekungukuthi "abaqaphi bebusuku." Lokhu kimi ngohlobo olusha, i-blockbuster. Ngidlala iphoyisa elidala le-herrening, futhi iqhawe lensizwa linguMzukulu we-Oleg vanya Yankovsky. Ngokwezinga elikhulu, ngavuma ukususa futhi ngingene kule phrojekthi njenge-spritener ngenxa ye-vanka, ngoba kungenzele ukuthi mina - ukuphindukuzalwa okuhle kuka-Oleg Ivanovich. Ufana kakhulu nogogo hhayi ngaphandle kuphela, kodwa ngendlela, imiqondo. Futhi kubonakala kimi, kunamakhono njengomkhulu wakhe.
- Futhi kuma-TV akhombisa ukuthi "anamafu" ...
- Izimo zingithumela masonto onke. Angimelene nemibukiso ye-TV, le yimpilo entsha. Sinezingcezu zemibukiso eyishumi emihle ye-TV - "Ukupheliswa", "Thaw", ngokwesibonelo. Okunye yiSerpentine, futhi angisahlukanisi phakathi kwamagama noma abantu abasebenza. Kepha okuthile kudinga ukugcwalisa isikhala sethelevishini. Shedula okuthile okulula. Kepha mina, njengoba ubona, ungapheli amandla lapho, ngoba kimi isithunywa esikhulu sisasele. Nakekela udumo, olubizwa. U-Oleg Ivanovich wangifundisa lokhu. Mhlawumbe angihlali ngilandela lowo mthetho, kodwa ngihlala ngikhumbula ngaye, ngiyazi. Futhi ngikhulile ngibe (ikakhulukazi manje, lapho kungekho sikhathi iminyaka eminingi kangaka), kulapho ngiqonda khona ukuthi lokhu kungenzeka, futhi kunento ebaluleke kakhulu engiyikhumbule ngayo lo msebenzi. USasha no-Oleg babehluke kakhulu. USasha uthandile lapho kunomsebenzi omningi, futhi engaqondanga ngempela. Kepha wayenomfanekiso walokhu, waya. Ukukhanya kukaSasha kwakunzima kakhulu. Futhi u-Oleg uhlukile ngokuphelele. Bengihlala ngifuna ukuba njengo-Abdulov, kodwa ngangiseYankovsky.
"Amaholide eMoscow" - Isipiliyoni se-Yarmolnik saphumelela
Uhlaka oluvela ku-movie "amaholide eMoscow"
"Utholwe kusukela ngesiJalimane" Kunzima ukuba nguNkulunkulu ", kwabe sekunikezwa ababili ngokuqhubekayo ngezingxoxo ngalesi sihloko. Futhi yini elandelayo, yini ibha ebaliwe?
- Kufana nokuthi ngizothatha isinqumo ngama-appendicitis angamashumi ayisikhombisa nanhlanu asike, hhayi ngaphambili, futhi kwenye indawo ngamashumi ayisishiyagalombili nambili aqala ukuthatha amaphilisi ekucindezelweni. Hhayi-ke, yini engingayibeka amapulangwe? Ngalo mqondo, kulula ngalo mqondo: kunoma yisiphi isiphakamiso abaphendukela kuzo, baphendule ngokubuka intshisakalo yakho. Isibonelo, ehlobo ngangiseJurmala noGradulson. AbakwaMisha Baryshnikov bafika lapho, esikade besingabangani, sine-monospectl 'incwadi eya kumuntu'. Saya ekusebenzeni kwakhe kabili, kepha sasivakashela, kepha akukhona ngalokhu: Lapho ehamba, ngokoqobo ngakusasa ngabiza umsizi weRiga umqondisi evkevi Pashkevich futhi wathi ungimema ukuba ngihlungwe. Ukuhlangana okunjalo, kepha akuvamile. Kwaphela izinsuku ezimbili, ngafunda iskripthi, senza isinqumo engizosihlungwa. Ngoba angikaze ngikwenze lokhu okwamanje. Le yindlu yobuciko.
- Ngiyakuthanda eFilm Valery Ogorodnikova "Barak". Le filimu ikuvule ngendlela entsha ukuthi awugcini nje kuphela umlingisi wamahlaya noma wothando, futhi futhi udabuke kakhulu.
- Ngikujabulele lokhu ngesiJalimane. Mina emingaki imidwebo enginayo - ikhulu namashumi amane namashumi amane namashumi amane, kepha uma kungemuva kothile angamashumi amahlanu, kepha uma kungemuva kothile, kepha khumbula okuthile engikwenzile, "kuzoba nzima ukuba nguNkulunkulu," ngoba kuyi-movie yaphakade. "U-Barak" ungomunye wemidwebo yami oyithandayo. Lawa angamashumi amahlanu, lapho ngizalwa, impilo yabazali bami.
Indodakazi yaseYarmolnik, u-Alexander, umklami onekhono nomculi wengilazi
Kirill IsChadsky
- Uthole umklomelo wombuso ngaleso sikhathi. Ngemigomo yemali, wayebonakala ebonakalayo?
- Simphuze ngakusihlwa. Ngifike "umshini wesikhathi", futhi ngaphuza ekotishi lase-gazebo. Lo mklomelo utholwe amashumishumi eminyaka, cishe amadola ayizinkulungwane ezingamashumi amathathu. Futhi i-dollar yabe isibizeleka endaweni yama-ruble angamashumi amabili. Akukhulu kangako, ngakho-ke ngenkampani enhle, umuntu uyishumi nanhlanu, ungaqhubeka.
"Iphrojekthi yakho yaseshashalazini" Happy New Year! ", Eyayiku" Wamanje ", waqala kabusha. Kepha akusekho lapho ...
- Yebo. Ngakho kwenzeka ngenkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi kanye nomlingani wami uSergey Garmash. Sahlukana. Bengiphila impilo yami yonke ngingedwa, ngacabanga, futhi ngatshelwa ukuthi "ngiyabonga." Futhi nge "Wanamuhla" kwavela ukuthi ngenze konke njengento ehlala njalo, futhi inhlesi yethafa yabona ngendlela yami. Umbukiso wawuseminyakeni emithathu nesigamu, iBitcho Hall. Nami ngangingumkhiqizi. Abangani banginike imali esitshalile imali kulo msebenzi. Futhi njengoba iphrojekthi iphumelele, ngakubheka njengento yaseshashalazini edonsela okuthile kubaxhasi. Futhi wabanika imali. Ukuze wenze okuthile ndawonye ngemuva kwesikhathi esithile ngemuva kwesikhathi esithile. Kodwa-ke, ithiyetha lanquma ukuthi akwamukeleki. Ishashalazi yethu inengqondo yokuthi abajwayele ukubuyisa imali, becabanga nge-charity yabo. Futhi uSergey ngesizathu esithile wacabanga ukuthi senginikeze le mali. Ukusola okunjalo ngemuva kweminyaka yethu yobungani bekuzokwazi ukunquma ukuthi kufanele ngidlale kangakanani ukuvala iphrojekthi. Yebo, bese kuthi izindawo eziningi zami zimangale: "Kanjani, ukujwayela ukuvala kanjani? Lokhu kungumdlalo wanamuhla. " Ngonyaka nengxenye kwangiqinisekisa kulokhu, futhi nganquma ukuqala futhi. Ngengozi ukuke wahlangana nomngane wami wakudala uKolya Fomenko, wambonisa ukudlala. Wakuthanda, futhi senza kangcono kakhulu! USasha Borovsky wadala indawo entsha. Sidlala amahlandla amabili noma amathathu ngenyanga. Izipesheli eziningi zokuvakasha: eJalimane, u-Israyeli, ezifundeni.
Umzukulu we-Petya - Umkhulu wasekhaya Joy
Photo: Ukulondolozwa komuntu siqu kweLeonid Yarmolnik
- Ngendlela, yini le ndaba lapho uVadim Mulerman enimemela eMelika ekuhambeni? Ingabe la maqembu ezinkampani?
- Ngakho-ke, ngasekupheleni kweminyaka yobudala, kwakungekho namazwi. We - Abdulov, mina noMakarevich - baba amaphayona. Lokhu kuvakasha, ngakho-ke ukukhuluma, i-pancake yokuqala com. Sahamba kakhulu ngaleso sikhathi: Kokubili iFiladelphia, neLos Angeles, neToronto, neNew York, neChicago.
- Thola okuthile?
- Ngesikhathi - Imali yasendle. Kepha wonke umuntu ochithe emajakethi, izicathulo, uJeans. Ukusebenza kwethu kwakufanele amadola ayinkulungwane. Ikhulu lalishiya umlawuli, kwathi ngamakhulu amathathu samukela. Kwakukhona okwenziwa eminyakeni engamashumi amabili.
- Kwenye yazo, ngasizathu simbe waqala ukusabalalisa imali emuva. Ujabule?
- Cha, angizange ngijabule. Ikhonsathi yabanjwa esikoleni samaJuda kubafuduki bethu. Kwakungekho kukhangisi, bamenyezelwa eminyango yesikole. Kepha ngasikhathi sinye, kwashicilelwa i-athikili enkulu "egameni lesiRussia" ngezithombe zethu futhi yabizwa ngokuthi "abaculi abathathu - Abangani abathathu be-Merry". USasha wakhuluma nge- "Lenkom", mayelana neDostoevsky nangobungani be-United States ne-USSR. I-Andrusha yahlabelela, ngabe sengiphume ngifunde iZhvanetsky. Futhi ngibuyisele imali ngoba lapho u-Andrrisha ehlabelela ingoma yakhe engcono kakhulu futhi wafuna ukuqala owesibili, omunye umfazi wasendaweni weza: "Ake ungitshele, u-Andrei, unakho okusha?" Futhi u-Andrusha walahlekelwa yisipho senkulumo. Wayengazi ukuthi kufanele asabele kanjani ama-amicoshohone kanye nobunzima. Ngingahle ngididekile. Ngaphuma ngathi: "Size kuwe futhi sikujabulele lokho esingakwenza". Futhi-ke ibinzana lesibili lalona wesifazane lithi: "Mina, sokudla, sabanye, sikhokhele amadola ayisishiyagalolunye nesigamu!" Futhi kwakukhona abantu abangamashumi amabili kuphela. Ngithi: "Ngizoyibuyisela imali manje." Futhi wabasabalalisa.
Esithombeni "onogada bebusuku", uLeonid Yarmolnik wahlungwa no-Ivan Yankovsky, obheka 'ukuphikiswa okubandayo komkhulu wakhe'
- Wena ungomunye wawokuqala owahlala ngaphandle kwedolobha. Wazi kanjani ukwakha indlu?
- Bengingazi. Indlu yokuqala engakha ngo-1989. Indodakazi yami yazalwa, futhi njalo ehlobo sidubule amakamelo amabili endlini yokugqwala eBarvikha. Bengivele ngine- "zhiguli". Ngaleso sikhathi sengilele esihlathini, futhi umkami uthi: "Bheka uqamba amanga, futhi ngabukeka ngingcono, mhlawumbe, ndawo ndawo lapho kuthengiswa khona indlu." Ngabuya ngemuva kwemizuzu engamashumi amane. Balekela kude neBarvii amakhilomitha amathathu ungene edolobhaneni lasePodkushka futhi washeshe wathola abantu abathengisa indlu. Wabiza ama-ruble ayizinkulungwane eziyishumi nanhlanu. Kubiza kakhulu. Ngale mali kungenzeka ukuthi uthenge okusha "zhiguli" ethekwini eliseningizimu. Kepha ngathola kahle, futhi senza isixuku kungekudala.
- Indlu ibisebusika?
- Yebo, yini! Halabuda. I-Plot Acrescent ishumi nanhlanu noma eyishumi nesishiyagalombili, umhlaba uthandwa - yilokho kuphela. Samdumaza. Ikhaya elisha engikwakhele kanjena: Isisekelo siyathathwa, ake sithi, bekufanele izinkulungwane ezingamashumi amabili. Ngazithola ngingumsebenzi ngezinkulungwane ezingamashumi amabili. Njll. Izinyanga eziyisishiyagalolunye zaqala ukwakha. Le ndlu ngabe sengidlulisela inkampani yamafutha yaseFrance ngemali ehloniphekile kakhulu. Futhi eminyakeni emibili kamuva ngathenga uzungu ngasekupheleni kwedolobhana futhi kwakha indlu lapho. Sasiphila kuwo ngaphambi konyaka owedlule. Abantu abathengisayo beza kimi ngoba bebazi ukuthi angibakhohlisi. Ngakho-ke ngathenga amanye amasayithi ambalwa esiwasebenzise njengengadi. USasha washada, futhi sakha ikhaya elisha engadini. Futhi ngathenga indlu yokuqala ngasikhathi sinye, ngathenga uMakarevich. Owesibili naye wasuka kubangani.
- Uyazi ukuqoqa ezizungeze wena. Lesi yisipho sikaNkulunkulu, kungukuthi, njengoba besho, ngeke uthenge esitolo. Mhlawumbe, kusukela ebuntwaneni bekukhona?
- Yebo, bengiyinkampani. Angikwazi ukukuchaza lokhu. Kubaba nombuzo kamama. Ngicabanga ukuthi lokhu kungumlingiswa wami kanye ne-ksyushin. Siyathanda futhi siyazazisa abangane bethu. Ekuqaleni kwengxoxo yethu, angizange ngibe yiVian, ngathi abangane bazofaka okokuqala. Futhi endlini yethu, yize ngasikhathi sinye saba negumbi elilodwa enkonzweni yomphakathi, le nkampani yahlala yabuthana. Lapho-ke ifulethi lokuqala livele kwi-tube, lapho uSasha azalwa ... into embi kakhulu ebudlelwaneni obunobungani ukukhanga. Futhi, mhlawumbe, nginenhlanhla enkulu: Anginakho lokhu. Mhlawumbe necala elilodwa noma amabili. Futhi laba bantu bangiphika ngaphansi kwengcindezi ngenxa yezimo, hhayi ngobubi. Ngokuvamile, singabangane ukuze kufe kuphela kungasihlukanisa.
I-Yarmolnik yazi zombili umgcini we-TV. Iminyaka eminingana manje, uyilungu leJury yombukiso odumile "
- Uhlangana no-Oksana maqondana nabantu. Futhi unjani ngowesifazane, umka-ke washintsha kanjani?
- Ngaphandle kwakhe, ngizoba omunye umuntu. I-Oksana - I-OTB yami, Ukulawulwa kwami kuzo zonke izindlela, ulwazi lwami, ukuheha ngokwakho. Lokhu kungumuntu ngenxa yokuthi angikaze ngifeze futhi ngingahambi. Engikwenzayo nje, nginqume ngamaphimbo amabili. Umkami unethalente ngolwazi ngolwazi lwempilo. Kwesinye isikhathi ngenza into embi, nginganele, uhlala azi ukuthi ungangichazela kanjani ukuthi kungani nginephutha. UKaryusha uhambe iminyaka eyisithupha ngaphandle komama, khona-ke uBaba wafa, waba khona kusenesikhathi.
- Uhlangana nakho othandweni lwezilwane. Uhlala unezinja. Futhi uyaphila kusekhona u-Apollo neCupid?
- hhayi. Angikwazi ukwamukela iqiniso lokuthi izinja ziphila kancane. Manje sinoScotch SOLOTERSON, unogwaja dachshund uzya kanye noDusty Dsi, okuyindodakazi eyayithathe esitimeleni.
- Izihlobo zakho zihlala kanjani eMelika - Umama noDade Lucy?
Udade usebenza emkhakheni wezenhlalo, umama lapho ethatha umhlalaphansi. Zonke izihlobo zethu ziye emhlabeni ngenxa yombuzo kazwelonke. Ababelethi bami beboshelwa isikhathi eside bashiya owokugcina. Bahlala eLviv. Bengihlala ngoba isibukeli sami silapha.
- Umkhulu uPete City nezinyanga eziyisishiyagalolunye. Ngabe ubhekana kanjani?
- Ngijabule nge-kSyusha futhi ngibhekane nayo kakhulu ngamandla anele, impilo nesikhathi. Usesho "mama", "baba". Yena ubiza indlela. Incwadi ethi "E" ayikanikezwa. Ngigcine ukubizwa ngokuthi: "Dada." Igama lokuqala nelithandayo "konke." Bhala bese uthi: "Konke!" Kukhona okuthile - "konke!" Ukulala okuncane - "konke!" Vele, anginaminyaka engamashumi amabili, futhi uyakhathala. Ulwela sonke isikhathi ukufika endaweni ethile, ukuvula okuthile, ukubamba. Kepha indlela yami yokuphila iguqulwa manje uma kungenzeka ngaphansi kwePetya.