Umculi wabantu ka-Armenia Grant Tikhatan manje uyaziwa eRussia. Izithombe ezigqamile, ezingalibaleki zidalwe nguye kumafilimu wethelevishini "agcina eMagikyan", "Ivanov-Ivanov", imidwebo "ngaphandle kwemngcele" kanye "nokuzamazama komhlaba". Ngesibonelelo Aramovich sihle ukuxhumana ngezihloko ezahlukahlukene futhi zithole lokho okubizwa ngokuthi ukuhlakanipha kwaseMpulini, okukuvumela ukuthi wakhe ubudlelwano obufanele nabantu. Shono nje abafazi bakhe bangaphambili bangabangane, futhi izingane ziyathandana njengezihlobo. Imininingwane - engxoxweni nomagazini "Atmosphere".
- E-Yerevan, ubhekwa njengeqhawe lesizwe. Uma imakethe isetshenziswa isikhathi eside, kufanele ngithi uya ku-interview unikeze iThakhatan - futhi ngokushesha uthengisa izimpahla. Ingabe usebenzisa ukuthandwa kwakho?
- Angisiye okuthile okupholile kokuthandwa, kepha ukuphatha kabi kakhulu. Abaculi basebenzela abantu ukuthi banikeze imizwelo - ngesinye isikhathi injabulo, kwesinye isikhathi izinyembezi, baphoqeleka ukuba bacabange ngokuthile. Sonke sikwenzela umbukeli. Ngakho-ke, uma abalandeli bafuna ukuthatha i-autograph noma benze isithombe nami, "ngihlala ngiyavuma. Yize kwesinye isikhathi akukho okukhona kwalesi simo. Futhi emakethe - yebo, banikela ngemifino emisha nenyama, kwesinye isikhathi abathathi imali.
- Abantu bahlukaniswe ama-metropolisms, kodwa, mhlawumbe, kuJerevan akunjalo? Noma kunjalo, amasiko omndeni omkhulu, amanani asempumalanga asindisiwe?
- Yerevan ukuxuba okuhlukile kwe-East nasentshonalanga. Phambilini, wayeyidolobha elincane ne-doros kuya esigidini samaRandi ngoba unobhala we-CC webiwe lapho umkhumbi ongaphansi komhlaba ube lapho. Abaningi, abantu baseJerevan abadala ikakhulukazi bayazana. Uzungeza idolobha - kungathi useyindilinga lomndeni wakho, wonke umuntu uyamamatheka. I-Yerevan idolobha elifudumele kakhulu - bobabili, kanye nezivakashi. Lesi simo selanga esibalulekile ngisho nasebusika.
- Uyabazi omakhelwane bakho, bangabangane?
- Yebo kunjalo. Ezinsukwini zakudala, umnyango endlini awuzange uvalwe. Unyaka omusha sahlangana nomakhelwane esizeni. Isifunda esisha lapho ngihlala khona, leli yidolobha laseCottage, kepha sisazama ukugcina ukuxhumana, yize wonke umuntu ematasa, eshesha. Ngokubona kwami, kuhle lapho wazi ukuthi uhlala nobani futhi izingane zakho zidlala izingane zayo.
- Ngiyazi ukuthi okhokho bakho bavela kuma-kar, yebo okhiye bendlu, eyayidluliselwa kuYise iya endodaneni.
"Lapho ngisekuncane, umkhulu washo okuningi ngezwe lethu." Kwakuyizindaba ezicacile kangangokuba ngangichazwa yindawo yami. Futhi manje, njengoba nje abantu abadala, ngivakashele lapho. Manje yindawo yeTurkey. Ngithole indlu yethu yangaphambili. Ngokuvamile, wasala, yize kwakhiwa kabusha okuthile. Manje lapho uhlala umndeni wamaKurds. Ngatshela udaba lwami, egcekeni bangiyeka, kwangaphakathi - cha.
- Kungani, ucabangani?
- Imibono yezenkolo yadlala indima, ngiyacabanga.
- Futhi yini imizwa oyitholile, yezwa ukuxhumana ngale ndawo?
- Uyazi, imizwa ivuka lapho ubheka eMount Ararat, echibini i-wang. E-Kars, bengingaboni ngaphambi kwalokho, kwakungumuzi wangaphandle nakukude kimi, kodwa, mhlawumbe, inkumbulo yofuzo yagcinwa, futhi ngazizwa ngibona ukudlidliza, okuthile kwendabuko.
- Uyayazi yini indaba yohlobo?
- Yebo, izimpande zingena edolobheni elincane laseThat, hhayi kude nama-kar. Kuleli gama negama lethu lokugcina lihambe. Lapho-ke umkhulu wami omkhulu waqala ibhizinisi lakhe, wavula ifektri encane, futhi umndeni wathuthela eKar. Lapho, bahlala kuze kube ngu-1915, lapho kwaqala ukuqothulwa kohlanga okubi, kwenhlekelele yabo bonke abantu base-Armenia. Abantu baqala ukubheka izindlela zokuhamba, ngoba ukuhlala lapho kwakukhona ukufa okuthembekile, kwabulawa abantu abayizigidi eziyisigamu. Okhokho bami babenenhlanhla: Ngaphansi kwesigaba samasosha aseRussia bathuthela eMpumalanga ye-Armenia, idolobha laseGyumri. Kulaba bafowethu abane, ngababili kuphela abasindiswe: umkhulu wami, owathuthela eJerevan, kwathi umfowabo owayenesizathu esithile esiqonde eTbilisi. Ngakho-ke elinye lamagatsha omndeni wethu lihlala lapho. Siyabazi kahle, siyaxhumana, lezi yizihlobo eziseduze.
"Ukulahlekelwa omama bakho eminyakeni eyishumi nane kwaba yinhlekelele. Ngingukuphela kwengane emndenini, wafuzwa uthando lwendawo yonke"
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- Bewawuneminyaka eyishumi nane lapho ulahlekelwa ngumama. Isikhathi sentsha eyindalisiwe ...
- Umama ukulahlekelwa yinhlekelele. Yize kunjalo, kwakuwukuphela kwengane emndenini futhi ngangimbozwa uthando lwakhe olukhulu lwendawo yonke. Kepha kwakukhona ubaba, owakwazi ukungiphakamisa ngezinyawo zakhe wedwa. Engicabanga nje njengomuntu - ngiyabonga kuye. Akaze ashade kakhulu, ngenxa yami. Bengingafuni ukuletha omunye umuntu owesifazana endlini. Yize lapho engumfelokazi, wayengamashumi amane.
"Cishe, ubaba wakho usedumile nabesifazane - imoto yomjaho, ophumelele emhlanganweni.
"Yebo, ubaba wayengumdlali we-rally, iqhawe eliningi le-armenia, iMedline yesiliva ye-USSR Championship. Kepha abazali bakamama bebengafuni ukumnika yena. Umkhulu wayenguNobhala weHhovisi Lesifunda, futhi ubaba wabe esesebenza njengomakhenikha we-auto. Ngokusobala, babeyibheka njengeqembu elifanelekayo lendodakazi yakhe enhle. Kepha umama wakhombisa ukulukhuni waya kuyise.
- Wakufundisa ukushayela imoto?
- Cha, umama waphikisana naye. Njengoba ngishilo, ngaba ukuphela kwengane, futhi wesaba kakhulu kimi. Maye, ngenxa yokunakekelwa kwakhe ngokweqile, ngaphucwa izinto ezinjengebhayisekili, i-scooter, i-skates, i-skis. Umama wabona ingozi kukho konke. Vele, ngazama ukuzama okuthile kancane kulokhu, kodwa ngaqala ukushayela imoto eminyakeni eyishumi nesikhombisa.
- Wena, amadoda amabili, ahlala yedwa. Mhlawumbe, uzimele empilweni yansuku zonke, uyazi ukuthi malini?
- Ngeshwa, lokhu akunjalo. Ikhono le-DAD. Wayengumpheki okhazimulayo, elungiselelwe ngenjongo. Futhi ngisezikoleni zesikole esiphakeme ngiphuthule iKVN, ngachitha isikhathi esiningi sokulungiselela izinkulumo. Ngakho-ke, ezintweni zasendlini, angazi ukuthi ngingalungiselela kanjani, ngaphandle kwezitsha ezilula.
- Kunombono wokuthi umuntu akhetha umfazi onjengomama. Endabeni yakho yasebenza?
- Cishe cha. Mhlawumbe angizange ngithole okunjengomama. Abesilisa, njengami, babizwa ngokuthi ama-polygamini. (Emamatheka.)
- Ingabe kukhona okuvamile phakathi kwabafazi bakho?
- Umsebenzi. Bobathathu bangabalingisi.
- Lokho kungukuthi, uthandana nethalente.
"Ngithandana nowesifazane, ngiyamthanda, khonzani." Nginombono onjalo: Owesifazane oseceleni komuntu - noma ngabe singakanani isikhathi, makaninyakaze unyaka, inyanga noma amahora ambalwa, emnika injabulo. Ngimbonga abafazi bami abathathu futhi ngoba ngamunye wabo wanginika ingane enhle. Ngiyabathanda kakhulu, ngiyabonga. Mhlawumbe ngokuthula ngokuthula bahlangane nobuhlobo obufudumele obunjalo. Ngeke ngithi bangabangane, kepha bamukelekile. Futhi izingane zilula. Angazi, bangathandane kakhulu uma wonke umuntu ezalwa evela kuMama oyedwa. Okwengeziwe - U-Aramu, usevele eyindoda endala, uneminyaka engamashumi amathathu nane, umkhiqizi usebenza enkampanini yami. I-IKE, omncane, amashumi amabili nesikhombisa, enza umshado ekukhangiseni. Indodakazi Lilith - ishumi nambili. Abakwa-Eldest babehlala behamba emihlanganweni yabazali abancane, futhi manje bobabili bathatha udadewethu. Yibuke enkundleni yemidlalo yeshashalazi, i-zoo, iminyuziyamu, ekudlaleni isiginci. Beza negama lakhe.
- Ngubani obukeka njengawe, okubona kubani izici zakho?
- Kuhlanganiswe, bobathathu. ILilith kulokhu impendulo yakho. Uthi: "Ngimuhle njengobaba, futhi ngihlakaniphile, njengomama."
- Ukuncoma okungabaza kumama.
- Yebo, nobaba nakho. (Ehleka.) Izingane ngakunye zinokuthile kimi nokuthile okuvela komama babo. Futhi omama babo bahle kakhulu.
"Wena nonkosikazi wesithathu uLouise umehluko eminyakeni eyishumi nesishiyagalolunye ubudala, futhi uthi awubuzwa." Ingabe kunjalo impela? Ngemuva kwakho konke, isimo sengqondo sezizukulwane sihlukile.
- Ngiyethemba uLouise akabuzwa. Isikhathi sokuqala kwavela ubunzima, ngoba umbuthano wokuxhumana, abangane bami empeleni bangontanga yami. Kwabonakala kimi ukuthi wayeyisidina nathi. ULouise ungumuntu okhuthele kakhulu, onobuntu, uthanda zonke izinhlobo zokuqoqa, amaqembu, amathrekhi abomvu. Futhi ngingelosi kimi, ngithanda ukuba sethule. Abangani bayahamba, sikhuluma ngesizotha, sidlale okuthandayo.
- Lokho kungukuthi, ube ne-trigger eyinkimbinkimbi.
- Sithole ukuyekethisa. Zombili sikhululekile ekubonisweni kwazo. ULouise buthule uhamba ngazo zonke izinhlobo zamathrekhi, futhi ngidlalela okuthandayo. (Ehleka.) Kancane kancane yonke into yenziwe kahle.
- Akujwayelekile impela kokuziphatha kwakhe kwe-Armenia. Phambilini, kusuka kowesifazane osempumalanga, kwakudingeka ukuhlala ekhaya, umnotho wawubandakanyekile.
- Ngawo wonke umsebenzi wakhe - uthwetshiwe e-cinema, udlala inkundla yemidlalo yeshashalazi, uhola imibukiso ye-TV - unesikhathi sokulandela umkhondo wendlu. Sihlanzekile, sithokomele, sihlale simnandi ukudla okumnandi. Akunankinga enjalo engiyidinga ihembe eliluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka kusasa, futhi lingcolile. Konke kuthunyelwe, kwathunyelwa. Unesikhathi esingakanani, angazi.
"Ngingumfukho wami - nakungaphambili, kanye nalolo lwamanje, uthando. Mhlawumbe, ngoba bonke bahlala ndawonye ngokuthula. Ngamunye wabo wangethukela enganeni enhle"
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- Mhlawumbe kukhona abasizi abayimfihlo?
- Umsizi akuyona imfihlo, futhi ecacile: Umamezala wami. Ngiyamthanda, uhlala nathi. Kepha iqiniso engidlayo lilungiselela uLouise uqobo. Wenza izitsha ngezindlela zokupheka zikamama futhi azi ukuthi ngithanda kanjani ngempela. Nganginenhlanhla enkulu: ngabo bonke ubuciko bakhe nokubukeka okukhanyayo, umfazi naye uyinkosikazi enhle, futhi umama uyamangalisa.
"Engxoxweni oyitshele ukuthi sanquma ukushada lapho ngifela inhlawulo. Ingabe lokho kuyiqiniso ngempela?
- Impela, nginqume ngokomthetho ubudlelwano bethu ngemuva kwalelo cala. ULouise wayesenyangeni lesishiyagalombili lokukhulelwa, futhi ngangesaba kakhulu. Size esibhedlela, udokotela wayihlola wathi lolu hlobo oluthile lwefezela, olimi lwawo akayona into ebulalayo. Wabe esebheka izinambuzane ezifile futhi wabuza: "Wafa ngemuva kokulunywa?" - "Yebo". - "Owesifazane oqinile. I-firth. "
- Ngicabanga ukuthi awushadanga ngoba unamandla, ayingozi.
- Impela. ULouise Ramany, mnene, umnandi.
- Emagazini wezincwadi zokuziphatha kwezizukulwane: Ufunde kumkami ukuxhumana nezinkundla zokuxhumana ...
- Ngokweqiniso, angiyithandi. Kwi-Instagram, indodana ingenze ngekhasi - ngisenaso isithombe esisodwa lapho. Ngiyaxolisa ukuchitha isikhathi ngalesi sikhathi. Futhi uLouise, kunalokho, usebenza kakhulu. Ngiyangiqinisekisa ukuthi kuyadingeka, imfashini, kodwa yenzeni, ayiqambi amanga. Ku-Facebook, ngisekela futhi ngokuxhasa ukuxhumana nabangane - ikakhulukazi labo abahlala kwamanye amazwe.
- Kepha uma ushiya ukudubula, ungaxhumana nomndeni wakho. EMoscow uyazi?
- Funda, futhi kaningi. Kakade endizeni, amantombazane aphathisiwe afanelekile, athathwe ama-autographs. Esikhumulweni sezindiza, imvamisa abantu baqine ekulawulweni kwamaphasiphothi, kodwa bayangibona - bamamatheka ngokushesha, babuze ukuthi balindele nini uchungechunge olusha "i-Ivanovy-Ivanov".
- Abalandeli babamba okuthile okufanayo phakathi kukaHamu Oganyan wase-Ivanov noKaren kusuka "kumlingo wokugcina". Mhlawumbe unikeza izinhlamvu izici zabo?
"Lapho uchungechunge lokuqala" Magikyan "lwaphuma, uLouise wangitshela:" Lalelani, bese uzama okuthile ubuciko ukudala ukuthi nizodlala wena? ". Ngempela, uHamlet ufana kakhulu noKaren Magikana, futhi ngokushesha wangizwa ngokwethukile, kodwa-ke, esexoxe ngalo mbuzo noMqondisi, abakhiqizi, ngabona ukuthi uma abantu bebethanda umlingiswa onjalo, kungani kungenjalo.
- Uyini ojwayelekile wase-Armeninesian?
- kukho konke. Njenganoma iliphi i-Armenine elijwayelekile engilithanda kakhulu idolobha lami, izwe. Abantu base-Armenia banama-diaspora amaningi emazweni ahlukene, ikakhulukazi eMelika naseRussia. Kepha ngisho nasezikhathini ezinzima kakhulu ze-Armenia, angikaze ngibe nemicabango yokumshiya. Yini enye? Nginemigwaqo yamasiko ethu, ngithanda cuisine yase-Armenia.
- Isiphuzo sewayini?
"Phambilini - yebo, futhi kuvame ukubiyela imali enobungane kakhulu yaba yi-toasta. Futhi manje ngikhuluma u-Toast, kepha ngiphuza okuncane (ukuhleka), angifuni. Uthando oluningi ngisho no-Vodka kunewayini.
- Lokho kungukuthi, ngalo mqondo, kancane kancane uba isiRussia ejwayelekile.
- Sizokwenza nobani! (Ehleka.) Sineqembu elihle kakhulu eliqoqwe: U-Anna Ukolova, uMikhail Truhin, uSergey Burunov. Kusukela isikhathi se- "Macikian" Singabangani noSasha Feklistov. Manje seyekhe isikhathi samahhala - sizoya kumngane wethu uTomiko Chinadze ukuvakashela i-Tbilisi. U-Andrei Burkovsky ngithanda ngokweqiniso ngomuntu. Futhi-ke, izingane zami zesikrini zicishe zinjengezihlobo. Ngizibonakalisa ngingubaba omuhle, ngoba ngokuthatha izinqumo ezithile, zelulekwa, hhayi nje nabazali bazo kuphela. Futhi ngiyakwazisa kakhulu.
- Manje endodakazini yakho esesihlokweni, umfana u-Ivanov usethandweni - Imicimbi izothuthukisa kanjani?
"Ngenkathi ngibonisa ukuqina kwababili, kodwa ngeke ngibe nengcindezi endodakazini yami." Ngicabanga le sizini, i-Elechka izonquma ngokuzikhethela.
- I-lilit yakho isekhona, mhlawumbe, ukucabanga ngabafana kusenesikhathi?
- Yebo, yize kuhlale kukhanya. Uqhakazile, ubuciko, ngicabanga, kuzoba ngumlingisi omuhle kakhulu. Ngiyayifuna ngempela. Futhi manje, ngalelizinsuku, kubhala ukuthi kudlale omunye wabangane bami - Mganu Mkrttchyan. Ungumshana kaFrunzik Mkrttchyan odumile, umlobi omuhle kakhulu nomqondisi. Ngiphupha ukuphuma endaweni yesehlakalo ngeLilith, sizodlala uyihlo nendodakazi yakho.
"Phambilini, emikhosini enobungane, ngangivame kakhulu ngaba yiTamada. Manje ngitshela i-toast, kodwa angifuni ukuphuza okuncane, angifuni"
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- Ihlobana kanjani nalomqondo?
"ULilith uyakujabulela, kulindelwe ukuthokozela usuku lapho ukudubula kuzoqala, ngokwakhe kubiza ukuhlangana. Indodakazi yaqala ukuqala ukusakazwa kwethelevishini kwezingane kusenesikhathi kakhulu, kepha ngikholwe, ukungenelela kwethu noLouise kwakungekho. Uyakujabulela ukummema. Kepha ngokushesha indodakazi yethu izoshintsha ishumi elishumi nantathu - akuseyona ingane, kodwa hhayi umuntu omdala. Ngalesi sikhathi, izingane ziya ziba zithakazelisa kakhulu ezinhlelweni zabezindaba. Futhi ukuze ikusasa lakhe lezingane, laba yizinkanyezi zokuqala, bese kuba zidingeka, ngeza nalokhu kusebenza. Ubuye wabona ukuthambekela kwezilimi. Ukhuluma kakhulu hhayi kuphela kwi-Armenia kuphela, kodwa futhi nangesiRussia, isiNgisi, ucwaningo ngesiKorea - uthandana neqembu elithile laseKorea. Endaweni yethu, abameleli beDiplomadiplomatic Dippoma Live, ngakho-ke usuku lonke liphethe izingane kanye nonobhala wenxusa. Abangani bakhe abaseduze - Indodakazi yeRencel of the Republic of Kazakhstan, ekhuluma isiRussia, nendodakazi yaseMelika Consul.
- Phambilini, wawuvame ukuya e-United States ngohambo nethiyetha, futhi manje?
- Futhi. Lapho kudalwe ukusebenza, sikwenza ku-Diasporas, kufaka phakathi ezifundeni. Futhi wunyaka osele amashumi amabili nanhlanu ekubongeleni eLos Angeles, kuqhutshwa inhlangano yezinsabelo ezinsukwini eziningi, lapho imali izobuyisela khona i-Armenia neKarabakh. Ngiyamukisa. Manje ngihlanganyela emagiya ezingane futhi konke okuhambisana nezingane. Eminyakeni embalwa edlule, mina nomngane wami uHerman wavakashela umfowabo, uhlala eRostov-on-don. Wajabula kakhulu ngomhlangano, kodwa lapho siphuma, ngokudabukisayo sabona: "Imishana yami manzi ayikhulumi ngesi-Armenia." Futhi zingaki izingane ezinjalo ze-armenia ezihlala emhlabeni wonke futhi azilwazi ulimi lwendabuko! Sinqume ukudala i-Video Bloten ebizwa ngokuthi "i-ABC yethu". Ngokumangazayo, kwesinye isikhathi kungilungele abantu abadala, ngamashumi amabili, ngamashumi amabili, futhi bavume ukuthi bafundela ngokunembile le phrojekthi. Ngokubona kwami, le yinto enhle kakhulu engiyenzile empilweni yami. Manje isikhathi sesishintshile, ividiyo ayisekho emcabangweni, ngakho-ke sikhipha izincwadi ezihlakaniphile. Ngithole abantwana abahle abantwana abangisizile ukuba bawubone lo mbono wokuphila. Wenze "i-zoo", endleleni - "uvakasha kuJerevan", khona-ke kuzoba khona "izinhlamvu zamagama" ne- "Mathematics".
- Sikhulume ngezingane zakho, kepha futhi unomzukulu ...
- Le yingxoxo ehlukile. Yebo, nginesibonelelo esikhulu se-Aramovich Takatatan, ukuhlolwa kwami okugcwele. Ngokuvamile, kuyamangaza, kepha izizukulwane ezintathu zokugcina emndenini wethu ziphokophela amagama amabili wesilisa - le yi-Aram futhi unikeze. Ubaba wami ngu-Aramu, nendodana endala. Omncane kunabo bonke emhlabeni bagqoka igama elithi AIK, kodwa empeleni ngabiza ngokuthi luyisibonelelo ngoba wazalwa ngolunye usuku nami. U-Arama naye unendodana yesibonelelo. U-Arama Ngihloniphe kakhulu: wahlangana nonkosikazi wakhe wesikhathi esizayo ngisho naseyunivesithi, futhi basahlangana. Manje-ke u-Ike, ozoshada, usho ukuthi uma enendodana, uzombiza ngokuthi u-Aramu. Ngithi: "Guys, kulomhlaba kunamagama amaningi amahle ase-Armenia." (Ehleka.)
- Cishe ngoba amadoda ahloniphekile agqoka la magama. Uyakholelwa othandweni lwaphakade?
- Yebo, ubaba wayewathanda kakhulu umama wami ... ngokuvamile, ngikholwa othandweni. Uma ukuphi, noma ngabe ukuphi, noma yini uyazi, uyazi ukuthi kunephuzu elincane emhlabeni, ekhoneni lapho uthanda khona futhi ulinde khona. Lapho ufika ekhaya uqabule unkosikazi hhayi ngoba kufanele, kodwa ngoba ufuna lokhu kuwo wonke umphefumulo, lokhu kuyintokozo yomndeni.