Ubuzima bwinyenyeri zurukurikirane "Ubuzima Bwiza" na "Trigger" wa Mayaakina yamye buri gihe byaranshiwe kubanyamakuru, kuko yibukije umugambi uzwi cyane. Ku rupfu rubabaje rw'ababyeyi, gushyingirwa hakiri kare ku mugore ufite abana batatu, gutakaza ibiro byihuse kandi bita ku mucuzi, gutandukana, gutandukana, mu buryo bushya bw'iyi nkuru dusangamo Intwari yacu kuri Bali, muri sosiyete yumukobwa mwiza Sofiya Cofmann. Kandi, uko bigaragara, ibintu byose byari bisanzwe. Ibisobanuro - Mu kiganiro hamwe n'ikinyamakuru "ikirere".
"Umuroma, mu gihe abantu bicaye ku kato, wowe n'umukunzi wawe bagiye mu rugendo rujya i Bali." Bwira uko byagenze.
- Uku ni ihuriro ry'ibihe, ntabwo nateganyaga kuba kuri Bali. Ariko ndi umubyimutsa kurwego runaka kandi bizera ko hari ibintu bimwe byingenzi bizakomeza kubaho mubuzima bwacu, urakwifuriza. Umwaka ushize wakoraga cyane muri gahunda yumwuga. Nakoraga nta biruhuko kandi mubyukuri nta minsi. Muri Mutarama, narangije kurasa, bitari muri Moscou. SonYabasora yashyize mu bikorwa umushinga we ugana mu mibereho yerekeye ubuzima bwiza bwa HOP, yakusanyije itsinda ry'abantu bahuje ibitekerezo, bubatse byose kuva mu gishushanyo kandi byari akazi gahuze. Muri uyu mwaka twembi tunaniwe kandi dushaka kumarana umwanya munini. Kubwibyo, bateguye urugendo runini kuri Werurwe. Icyorezo cyemewe cya Coronavirus mu Burusiya nticyari kitaragera, kandi ntitwatekereje ko ibintu byose bizahinduka vuba. Kubarwa kugirango usubire muri karantine. Yashakaga cyane kubona urusengero rwa Angkororvat - Urusengero runini rwa Rorumbo ku isi. Twagurutse i Siem Riep tubona Angkor Wat abantu bake bagize amahirwe yo kumutekerezaho - twari kumwe aho, ubusanzwe dufite abakerarugendo manini baturutse mu bihugu bitandukanye. Ibi byatumye bishoboka kwibonera byimazeyo ubwiza n'icyubahiro cy'ahantu. Ariko kubera kubura abantu, twabonye neza uburemere no kudateganijwe mu bihe biri ku isi. Ubutaha Urugendo rwacu ni Singapore, nahoraga dukunda uyu mujyi hamwe no guhuza ibikorwa byagezweho n'inganda muri kamere, igikoresho cya Leta gifatika. Tumaze gusubira muri Singapore, Uburusiya bwamenyesheje itegeko ryinjiye mu banyamahanga. Kandi kubera ko Synya, nubwo atuye i Moscou imyaka ine, ubwo na byose, umunyamahanga, ntitwashoboraga kugaruka. Kandi rero iherezo ryategetse ko mugihe cyorezo, twasanze muri Aziya kandi tugasangamo muri Aziya kandi duhitamo gutegereza amahirwe yo gusubira murugo kuri Bali, kuko haracyashize kandi habaye umubare ntarengwa wanduye. By the way, ku ya 21 Werurwe, Indoneziya yahagaritse gutanga viza, kandi twari umwe mu bakerarugendo ba nyuma wagurutse kugeza ku gufunga imipaka. Kubera iyo mpamvu, urugendo rwacu rwurukundo rwateje ko mumezi atatu tuba kuri Bali.
Ati: "Ntabwo ari ibyiyumvo byiza cyane nukumenya ko udashobora gutaha. Ariko bali ni ahantu hashimishije cyane, ntibitangaje kwitwa ubumaji "
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- Kandi ni iki - mugihe kitoroshye cyo kuba kure yo kure?
- Mubyukuri, iyi ntabwo aribyiyumvo byiza cyane - kumenya ko udashobora gutaha. Iki ni ikindi gihugu, indi mitekerereze, andi mategeko. Mubisanzwe, guhangayika byari bihari: Igihe gito kizamara, uko ibintu bimeze kuri Coronamenye bizatera imbere, bizaba hamwe nakazi. Ariko Bali ni ahantu hashimishije, kandi ntibitangaje kwitwa ubumaji. Imibereho yabo n'imibereho yabo yose, abaturage baho batanga kwizera kwaho - Ababuda na Shivaism bavanze, bakora imihango, bakora imihango, bakora imyitozo ya Mediative. Ubwabyo, aho hantu hashobora kwitwa nibi. Nibyo, kandi abantu batuye iyi kirwa bashimishije cyane muri filozofiya yabo na Mwisi.
Ndashimira ibintu nari kuri Bali, kubera ko ibintu bimwe byampaye muburyo butandukanye. Buhoro buhoro, byibanze ku bintu byanjye byavuye mu bintu byo hanze kuri we: Icyo nkeneye "gusuzumwa", kugira ngo bikosorwe ko, gutera imbere. Kandi muri rusange, kuri njye mbona ko tuzibuka igihe cyo kwishingiraho nkikinyuranyo kinini kwisi na buri muntu. Ubwoko bwose bw'urutare rwarasenyutse, twakoraga, akazi, akamaro k'imibereho, imibereho, ibidukikije, twese twagumye wenyine. Kandi kuri benshi, iyi ni inama igoye, tumenyereye kwibeshya kandi tuzitegura gusa kuvumbuzi runaka. Ku rwego rw'imigezi ku isi n'inzego za Leta, mu bindi. Ijoro ryose, birasa nkaho uburyo bwashingwa neza bwubatswe numuntu yatanze kunanirwa cyane. Muri kamere, ibintu byose byateguwe neza: inyamaswa zose, inyoni zose zirashobora kubona udashidikanya, kandi abaturage benshi baba muri societe basanze babayeho. Quarantine yerekanye ko hari ikintu gikeneye guhinduka wenyine no kurwego rwa leta. Ndatekereza ko tuzajya mwisi abantu batandukanye rwose. Nyuma yo kumarana umwanya munini hamwe nanjye, twahatiwe gushaka ibikoresho bimwe byo kumva neza. Kandi iyo uhinduye, ubuzima bwibyo uzengurutse uhita uhinduka, kuko twese dufitanye isano. Ndashaka kwizera ko tuzarushaho kumererwa neza, icyubahiro cyinshi kizagaragara, fata ikindi gitekerezo, ikindi gitekerezo. Ndatekereza kandi ko ibihe bizaduha gusobanukirwa cyane nkigice cyibinyabuzima byisi, icyifuzo cyo gukora ikintu gifite akamaro kubandi.
"Wasaga n'umugore ukunda yari hafi."
- Kuri njye mbona buri muntu wubaha agomba kubaho kugirango hari abantu bakundwa kandi bakundwa hafi. Ibihe biriho kwisi byahatiye benshi gutekereza ku ngingo zingenzi: Kuki nkora uyu murimo, njya kuri kazi, mbana nuyu mugabo, aha hantu? Abantu bari mubihe bidasanzwe byo kwigunga kandi bahura nibibazo nyabyo mumibanire. Umuntu abona ubucuti nyabwo, kandi umubano runaka uzababara. Nshimishijwe no kuba muri ibi bihe na sonya. Abagabo benshi babona umugore mwiza nkikimenyetso cyo gutsinda kwabo. Kandi ntabwo aribyo, umugore ni mugenzi we. Nibyiza kwihatira gushaka ubugingo usabana, ukomezana kandi ukizana. Ni ngombwa kwibaza ikibazo: Kubana na we, kuko nkunda, cyangwa ndashimishije ko ari mwiza kandi ni byiza kwinjira mwisi? Cyangwa birashoboka ko mfite ubwoba bwo kwigunga? Turashobora kuvuga ko ibikorwa byose mubuzima bwawe dukora, buyoborwa na Falbally ibyiyumvo bibiri: ubwoba cyangwa urukundo. Njye mbona, twese tugomba mugihe runaka ko ari ngombwa ko tubaho mu rukundo. Ntutinye kugendana nakazi keza, niba atari ubucuruzi bwawe. Igice numugore niba utakiri urukundo. Cyangwa ugaragaze neza ko ntaho bibaye, ahubwo yari uburiganya.
"Sinkunda ibintu byose muri sona, ari muri njye. Ugomba kubona umubare wumuntu nyawe, kandi ntugerageze kubihuza munsi yigitekerezo cyawe cyumuryango mwiza "
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- Wigeze ugerageza kubaho gutya - ukurikije urukundo?
- Oya, birumvikana ko atari byo. Byinshi mubuzima bwanjye byakoreshejwe mugushishikarizwa kubuzima. Nagize ubwoba cyane muri mirongo. (Aseka.) Muri iyo societe, byasaga nkaho ari ibisanzwe gufata ikintu cyabandi no guhaguruka, ntacyo ukora, ariko ubone inyungu. Ikimenyetso Cyiza cyerekana ibintu bifatika, ariko ntamuntu wasesenguye uburyo iyi ntsinzi yabonetse. Ndatuye ko rimwe na rimwe bakoze amahitamo, bishingiye ku bwoba: abandi bavuga iki? Nzaguhuza cyangwa nzabashimira niba nkina uru ruhare, nzagaragara muriyi myambarire, nzagendera kuriyi modoka? Nagiye mu isiganwa ryimibereho, icyubahiro, umwanya wanjye kandi kubwibyo byose byibagiwe ubwanjye. Ni ngombwa kwibaza ikibazo: Kuki nshaka? Buri gihe tuzi imbere aho ukuri. Uyu muvugizi yumvikana neza mu bwana, kandi igihe cyose aracecetse kandi aratongana, kuko amajwi yo hanze acecetse. Tutubwira akantu gakomeye, ibitagenda bite, nigute, wambara, uburyo bwo kuvugana nabantu, ibyo bitabo byasomwa, kandi ni ubuhe bwoko bwo kureba, nuburyo firime ugomba gukunda. Hariho ibitekerezo byimibereho, kandi utinya kumurwanya, bisa nibindi, kuko uzanyemera gitunguranye? Ariko ubu isi yarabikoze, ibintu byose birahagarara, kugirango twumve ibiri imbere. Ndimo ibyiyumvo byimbere: ibintu byose bibaho nibyiza. Uruziga rwanjye rwa hafi rwitumanaho rwagabanijwe kumupaka - mubyukuri, aba ni abantu babiri cyangwa batatu ari ngombwa kuri njye, hari ukuntu ari ngombwa kuri njye, hari ukuntu binhindura kandi nhinduka.
- na Sonya ni umwe muri bo?
- Birumvikana ko ari ubugingo bwanjye kavukire. Bitabaye ibyo, muri rusange ntabwo mbona ingingo yo gusangira numuntu. Iruhande rwanjye, umugore nishimiye cyane kandi nizeye. Iyo ukundanye, ni ngombwa cyane kugana ubucuti nk'ubwo. Biragoye, kuko gufungura ikintu gishya hamwe nundi muntu, umuntu agomba kumena ikintu. Iyo euphoriya yambere ivuye mu rukundo, ufunguye umuntu muburyo butandukanye, harimo n'impande ze cyijimye, kandi ni ngombwa gufatanya ukuri. Rimwe na rimwe tutitorohera, kubera impamvu runaka byakubabarira amakosa, ariko biragoye cyane - undi. Nizera ko nta kwizera ntibishobora kuba ubucuti nyayo. Ku bwanjye, ikizere nikimwe mubintu bigoye. Mbere, buri gihe nasize igihe gito mugihe cyo gutsindwa, " Ariko ubu sinshaka gutegura ikintu icyo ari cyo cyose. Ntabwo dufite umubano woroshye na sonya, bari kure yurukundo, rusobanurwa mubitabo byabagore. Sonya numufasha wanjye unzi mubigaragaza bitandukanye. Rimwe na rimwe turahira, turatongana kandi tujya hamwe. Iyi ndunduzo ntabwo ifite imipaka, kandi izana ibyiyumvo bitagira akagero.
"Amateka yo gutandukana ntabwo yoroshye, harimo n'umwana. Kandi ni ngombwa kuri we kumva ko ababyeyi bagumye mubucuti bwiza "
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- Turimo tuvuga byinshi kuri filozofiya, ntabwo bitangaje kuba hariho umuntu nkuyu hamwe nawe nka sonia, ufite numushinga wo kwiteza imbere.
- Iyo twahuye, Sonya yari abayobozi mubyerekeranye nisosiyete ikomeye. Mu mibanire yacu, byabaye ko intego y'ubuzima bwe yahindutse, ntiyashakaga gukora byinshi mu miterere y'ubucuruzi gusa, byabaye ingenzi kugirira akamaro abantu. Urwego rwe rwibyishimo, umunezero mubuzima ni muremure bihagije, kandi azi ibikoresho nubutunzi kubijyanye nibi
TI. Umushinga we mushya ugamije kunoza ubuzima bwiza no gushyigikira abantu mu iterambere. Yahujije Itangazamakuru, Umuryango winzobere nububiko. Sonya yo gushiraho psychologue, ubu uyu mwuga urakunzwe cyane. Amakuru menshi kuri psychologiya no kwiteza imbere aje kubantu kuburyo batazi icyo gukora. Platifomu ya Sonina yagenewe gusa gufasha abasomyi kugendagenda. Yansanze muri psychoanalysis - akenshi ibintu byingenzi umuntu ubwe ntashobora kubona. Ndetse byagize ingaruka ku myifatire yanjye ku mwuga. Noneho, mugihe dusesengura inyuguti, nshishikajwe n'imiterere ye yo mu mutwe: kuki intwari yanjye ije kugira ngo ishishikarire, aho imyifatire ye yimyitwarire irihe? Icy'ingenzi, impamvu ntabwo ari ibisubizo.
- Wowe uri kumwe na soya igihe kinini? Wahuye ute?
- Twahuriye ku kirwa cya Pangan muri Tayilande, hamwe n'inshuti rusange. Kubwimpamvu runaka, nkuko mubibona, byinshi bifitanye isano na Aziya. (Aramwenyura.) Bavuga ko abantu bashaka kubona urukundo bazahura rwose na kimwe cya kabiri muri Pangan ... kandi hariho imyizerere kuri Bali ko iki kirwa gigenzura umubano n'imbaraga. Ikigaragara ni uko igihe cye cyose. Nibutse ko imyaka ibiri mbere yuko turi kumwe na sonya bagereranyaga mu birori bimwe, ariko rero ntitwashimishijwe. Ibintu bitandukanye noneho biradutera inkunga. Nibyiza, nyuma ya Pangan, twagurutse i Moscou, ntituganiriye ahantu runaka mu kwezi nigice, hanyuma twongera guhura muri sosiyete isanzwe. Kandi yamaze kujyana na "izuka" ku gishushanyo cya Leo NikoLavich Tolstoy. Kuva icyo gihe, buri wese kandi "kuzura." (Aseka.) Twahuye nibisanzwe bihagije, abantu bose bari bafite imikino yabo, ibitekerezo bimwe kubyerekeye umubano. Ntabwo twashoboye gukingura ibyiyumvo byacu igihe kirekire, twarebaga. Ariko kumva ko hari ikintu cyingenzi twahujwe, byahise bikomeza. Kubwibyo, twasobanukiwe ko dukeneye kujyana, muburyo bwo gutangiza imigambi n'ibitekerezo byacu. Twebwe mumwaka wa gatatu, ariko buri mwaka wegerana, nkaho dufunguye ubugingo bwacu, ryihishe inyuma yibice birinda. Njye, mubyukuri, ubwo bucuti bwakomeje inzira runaka yo kwizirika.
- Ikigaragara ni uko impinduka zatangiye mbere, mu bwa mbere. Wahuye nuwahoze ari umugore, kuba muto cyane. Yabuze ababyeyi babo, yaguhaye ibyiyumvo byumuryango, inkunga. Ariko rero umuhungu ahinduka umugabo ...
- Umva, ntibishoboka kuvuga ko nakure muri iyo mibanire, ni ubwibone bumwe. Ndacyakomeza kuvugana na Lena, kandi ndumva nkenerwa. Ariko imiterere yumukino yarahindutse. Nta mibanire y'umugabo - abagore, ariko ntitwabayena. Lena yangizeho ingaruka cyane, kandi birashoboka ko ndandeba kuri we. Gusa nagiye mu buryo bumwe, kandi na we atera imbere, aba mwiza cyane, abakire kandi ashimishije. Numva ndamushimira, ni nyina w'umwana wanjye. Byabaye rero ko umwana yaduhisemo kuza kuri iyi si. Kandi iki ni igitangaza n'ibyishimo byinshi. Igikorwa cacu Rusange ni ugurera umuntu mwiza. Birumvikana ko iyo nkuru itarushije ubusa gutandukana, harimo numwana. Kandi ni ngombwa kuri we kumva ko ababyeyi bagumye mu mibanire myiza, bumva ko bubaha.
Ati: "Ntabwo twashoboye gukingura ibyiyumvo byacu igihe kirekire. Ariko kumva ko twahujwe n'ikintu cy'ingenzi, byavutse rimwe. "
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- Kuganira numwana wawe nigute?
- Nabuze umuhungu wanjye cyane, kandi nubwo buri munsi duhamagaye, nkumbuye imibonano mpuzabitsina. Kugeza igihe kirekire tutigeze tutandukana. Iki nikimwe mu bihe akura. Ako kanya rero uhagera i Moscou nzagerageza kumara igihe ntarengwa. Muri rusange, ku rugero rwawe, ndashaka misha kwerekana ko umuntu ashobora kwishima kandi agomba kubihatira. Ndashaka kumukingurira impande nziza yisi.
- Waba wamumenyesheje Sonya?
- Nibyo, ndashaka rwose ko bababara. Kandi nishimiye ko bigaragaye. Sonya ntazigera afata umwanya wa Mama kandi ntabivuga. Ariko ndizera ko, mu mutima wa Misa kuri we hari umwanya waryo, kuko Sonya ari ingenzi kuri njye. Ndashaka kurema umuryango kugirango turi ababyeyi ejo hazaza. Ariko turabyemera mubitekerezo, ubishaka, twibaze icyo dushobora guha undi numwana, dushobora kugaragara mugihe kizaza. Umuryango ntabwo waremewe kuko usanzwe ufite mirongo itatu na kabiri ukaba wenyine, ahubwo kubera ko ari kumwe nuyu muntu ukura, utezimbere, nawe uzi kandi nawe. Kuberako ubona ubugingo bwawe kavukire.
- Bibaho ko abantu bahura kandi hamwe ari beza cyane hamwe. Ariko uburambe bwo gutura hamwe buhinduka ikizamini nyacyo kubera itandukaniro ryingeso zurugo.
- Mubyukuri, ntuzigera uhitamo umufatanyabikorwa utunganye wategura ijana ku ijana. Ntabwo nkunda ibintu byose muri sona, ari muri njye. Ugomba kubona umuntu muzima nyawe kuruhande rwe, kandi ntugerageze kubihuza munsi yigitekerezo cyawe cyumuryango mwiza, wahimbwe mubyangavu. Kumenya umufatanyabikorwa, imbaraga zayo hamwe nibigukwiriye kubwimpamvu runaka. Kandi ni ngombwa kubyumva, n'impamvu bimwegaragaza ikindi bitera amarangamutima mabi. Birashoboka cyane, iyi niyo mico myinshi muri wewe, kandi ikeneye kuvaho. Kandi iyo ubakuye muri wewe, bazahagarika kurakaza undi muntu. Abantu badusanganira munzira yubuzima ni indorerwamo mubyukuri tuzirikana. Bagaragaza ibintu byingenzi dukeneye kwitondera.
"Nagiye mu bwoko bwo gusiganwa, icyubahiro, umwanya wanjye kandi ibyo byose byibagiwe"
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Ati: "Ariko umuntu, yihindagurira, atangira kugira ingaruka ku iki. Ibisinzo byawe byubu bizirikana ku nshingano ziguha?
- Birashimishije kuba naragengwaga inshingano zabagabo batsinze mumibereho, batishimiye rwose hamwe nabo wenyine. Bashakaga impamvu zitera kunanirwa kwabo hanze, mu bagore babo, ibintu byabo, ibidukikije. Birashoboka, ibi byagaragaje igice cya leta yimbere muri kiriya gihe. Nanjye ubwanjye naribanze cyane kuri hanze. Noneho mfite ibihe byamatsiko, inshingano ziza, ntabwo nshimishwa nuwabigize umwuga gusa, ariko nanone nkumuntu. Inyuguti zitandukanye ziragaragara - abantu bari mubushakashatsi bwo mu mwuka, bumaze kugeraho mubucuruzi bwabo. Niba hari intwari zanjye zarushijeho kumenya umubano n'abagore: bakundaga, barasohoka, barabahindura, bazana kwiyahura, ubu ntanze kwiyahura, ubu ntanga inkuru zijyanye n'ingoma zijyanye n'umugabo, kwiyamamaza. Ikigaragara ni uko byibandwaho byingenzi.
- Urumva ingaruka zo gukundwa kwawe, kuba icyamamare kandi bijyanye niyi nshingano mubuzima bwawe?
. Niba ufashe igihe cya makumyabiri na mirongo itatu kugeza kuri makumyabiri kugeza kuri mirongo itatu, imbaraga nyinshi zari zigamije gukora iyo mizigo iremereye, nakuruye inyuma yanjye. Noneho hariho gusobanukirwa ko ubuzima bwanjye buri mu ntoki, kandi icyarimwe, kugurisha mu mwuga byatangiye kubaho. Igihe kimwe nahisemo gusiga ikinamico. Nubwo mubyukuri nahisemo umwuga ukora kuko narose gukina kuri stage. Ubuzima bwinyuma bwashushanijwe bidasanzwe, bitangaje. Ariko ukuri nticyari na gato na Naphnthazed. Natangiye kumva ntayoroheye muri yo. Iyo ntiyari ikinamico ya vino. (Kumwenyura.) Imikino. Mossovet, aho nakoreye, yashinze mbere yuko mvuka, kandi sinategeka amategeko yanjye. Muri icyo gihe, kubera akazi muri theatre, nta buryo bwo kubona amafaranga yinyongera, uruhare mu kurasa. Rero, guhitamo byatanzwe muburyo bwa firime. Ariko gutesha umutwe. Mfite ijoro ryumukinyi wumudamu, twahungiye hamwe na Viktor Shamirov. By the way, wari Umuyobozi wa mbere muri theatre. Mossovet. Kandi nkina iyi mikorere nshimishijwe cyane, ariko icyarimwe ntigeze numva ko nkorera ikigo runaka. Ntanze.