"Efim Zalmarovich, nthawi ina omvera adataya hule komanso wofalitsa nkhani wa Motologi wa Efim Skifrin, koma adagula ochita seweroli. Kodi ndinu okondwa kuti kusintha kotere kwachitika?
- Eya, awa ndi mawu okweza ... (kuseka.) Ndimangokulira pang'ono pankhani ya zochitika. Alimi adzamvetsetsa. Chifukwa dothi litawonda ndipo dziko lapansi latha, muyenera kutenga kankhosa yanu nthawi zonse ndikusamukira kwina. Zinkawoneka kuti kuno pa izi, zidandipatsa chiwembu cha malo, pa pop yanga, zokolola, zokolola izi, zidayamba kuchepa. Ndipo ine, osaponyera dziko lino, osayang'ana mwachidwi kwake, ine ndinangotulutsa masamba ena angapo. Mmodzi wa iwo anali atachedwa kuzungulira, khomo lina lotsatira - kanema, tsamba lachitatu limatchedwa TV, ndipo wachinayi - wokondedwa wanga ndi zisudzo. Tsopano chinsalu china chinawonjezeredwa kwa iye, chomwe chimatchedwa nyimbo zam'madzi. Ndi zolakwa izi kusangalala. Nawo, ndizovuta kwambiri kusamalira, koma ndinapita kwaudindo woposa pomwe amapaka utoto kapena pomwe wopambana woyamba adabwera.
- Ndi magwiridwe angati omwe muli otanganidwa tsopano?
- Ichi ndiye nyimbo "Nthawi Zosasankhidwa" Mu Keatla ya Musicla, Palinso njira yabwino kwambiri "Moyo ndi wokongola", uku kusewera "maluwa oseketsa" ... Ili ndiye njira yomaliza Mwa Mikal Mikhalych Kazakov, omwe adatha kuyika ku Russia. Pali Pulogalamu yanga yopukutira yotchedwa "Seifrynisms - Chatsopano". Tsoka ilo, osewera omwe anali kuwakonda posachedwa: "Schwarsevsky" "Chinjoka" Tsopano ndimangokhalira kumenyedwa ndi kuwombera mu mndandanda waukulu, koma sindingasankhebe. Mwambiri, ndi octa anga ndimachiritsa ziwonetsero za pa TV, ndipo adagwirizana nawo pokhapokha ngati ndinali mu "nyenyezi yoyitanidwa" kwa mndandanda umodzi - nyenyezi.
Efim SIPHrin adabadwa m'mudzi wa Susamman kudera la Magadan. Chithunzi: Zolemba zapamwamba.
- Apa, chaka chatha chinali gawo chabe "sklifosovsky" ndi kutenga nawo mbali.
- Ndipo zisanachitike izi - "njira", ngakhale koyambirira kwa fuko lathu. Koma, modzipereka chokha, ndikuwona moona mtima kuti mtundu wa ma TV akukula. Mulimonsemo, mbali yaukadaulo ya iwo. Ndipo sikulinso kupulumutsa ndalama zamuyaya izi.
- Monga nyenyezi, tsopano muli nthawi zambiri kuyitanidwa kwa oweruza a pa TV osiyanasiyana. Kodi ndinu oyenera kuti woweruzayo ukhale woweruza kuti muuwunikire nthawi zambiri kwa anzanu?
- Inenso ndikumufotokozera ndekha poti mwanjira inayake ya polar ya anzanga. Munthu wotere ayenera kukhala mu Jury. Sindingathetse munthu wina kuti amuchititse manyazi kapena kunyoza. Chifukwa choti ndi wochita sewero, ndimamvetsetsa momwe zimakhalira ndi momwe zimakhalira pantchito zoterezi. Ndipo ine, titero tinali, kuchokera mkati, nthawi zonse mumamenya omwe akufuna kukonzekera, kapena kukhazikika. Mwina zoitanira izi zimalumikizidwanso ndi mfundo yoti sindinapezeke, ndikulengeza lingaliro langa. Zikuwoneka kuti nthawi zonse pamakhala zosangalatsa m'mapulogalamu apawayilesi. Ndidakali wailesi yakanema, osati mayeso kapena mayeso. Ndipo zinthu za chiwonetsero ziyenera kukhalapobe - ngakhale pakulengeza zotsatira ...
- "Nyenyezi yanu" inali chiwonetsero chodziwika bwino cha TV "Cizisi ndi nyenyezi", komwe mudawonetsa zomwe angathe. Kodi mudakhala ndi luso lopezeka pa ntchitoyi?
"Ndikadakhala kuti tsopano ndikadandaula kubwereza kena kake, ndikadapempha sabata limodzi kuti ndilowe mufomuzo ndipo, mwina, mobwerezabwereza pafupifupi chilichonse chomwe chikuwonetsedwa mu 2007. Ngakhale zaka zisanu ndi ziwiri zapita. Zimandipangitsa kukhala chinthu chimodzi kuti ndikhulupirire: chaka cha Nikulin chikakondweretsedwa, ndimaganiza moona mtima kuti sindidzagundanso, ngakhale kubwereranso, komwe kumalamulira M'chigawo chozungulira, ndinapereka chidaliro. Ndipo ndinabwereza chipinda cha mlengalenga. Monga nthabwala iyi: "Kodi mukudziwa kusewera vaolin? "Sindikudziwa, sindinayese." Ndikumva kuti ndikadakwanitsa.
Tsopano Efim Shifrin ali otanganidwa nthawi yomweyo m'malo angapo. Chithunzi: Gennady avramenko.
- Ndi ntchito yake yabwino, inunso mulinso wogwiritsa ntchito maitolo ochezera. Tsiku lililonse, zatsopano kuchokera m'mabuku osangalatsa ndipo ntchito zimapezeka patsamba lanu. Mumapeza nthawi yanji yotere?
- Nthawi zambiri ndimafunsidwa za izi, komanso mwachikondi kwambiri kwa owerenga anga nthawi zonse pamakhala kukayikira pang'ono: Amadziwanso kuti ndimangogwira ntchito madzulo, ndipo m'mawa ndimangofika mumzinda uno. Nthawi yomweyo, ndimaphunzitsanso masewera olimbitsa thupi. Wina nthawi yomweyo amabwera lingaliro la "akuda", kapena kuti wina amandithandiza. Koma ndizosavuta kuyankha funsoli - nthawi zonse ndimakhala panjira. Usiku - pasitimayi, masana - pa ndege, komanso kukhala ku Moscow - ndimayenda pagalimoto yautumiki, sindimadziyendetsa. Ndikudikirira, sindimakhala nthawi yoyang'ana madontho pa denga, sindimagawana ndi iPad ndipo, ndikukhala lark, ndikugwirabe ntchito nthawi ndi chizolowezi. Ndimagona pang'ono, ndili ndi zokwanira. Nthawi zambiri, sindinkaganiza kuti nditha kukonda kuwerenga kuchokera ku Woritedi, zidawoneka kuti zidavomerezedwa kwa ine. Koma tsopano mawonekedwe amagetsi adandibwezera ku kuwerenga kwa ndege. Ndidatsitsa mabuku ambiri, ndipo ndimatha kuwerenganso nthawi imodzi nthawi imodzi, osatsegulanso malo kapena manja anu. Ndimaphunziranso kuchokera m'buku limodzi kupita ku lina, kupindulitsa kwa zida zonsezi kumathandizira mabatani, kusankha, kukopera mawu. Sindiyenera kubwereza zidutswa zomwe zalembedwa m'mabuku omwe ndimapereka pa malo ochezera a pa Intaneti - izi zimachitika ndikukanikiza batani limodzi. Ndikuganiza kuti ndikuwerenga ndi kufunafuna mafanizo. Nthawi zonse ndimafuna kugawana zomwe ndaphunzira. Ndipo akafunsa kuti: Kodi nchifukwa ninji izi mwadzidzidzi khalani ndi chidwi ndi mbiri yakale kapena chiphunzitso cha chisinthiko - kodi ntchito yanu ili bwanji? Ndikunena kuti: "Chifukwa chake nkosangalatsa kuti sizogwirizana ndi ntchitoyi. Zikuwoneka kuti panali malo ena m'maphunziro anga omwe moyo wanga umathekera kukonza. " Ndipo zenizeni zatsopano zimangopereka mwayi wophunzira ndi kuphunzira. Ndipo zikuwoneka kuti ndinamaliza sukulu inayake, kapena ngakhale kukhazikitsidwa, popeza ndine wogwiritsa ntchito pa intaneti.
- Nthawi yomweyo, mukamalemba nokha, mukuwoneka kuti ndi chilankhulo cha ku Russia ...
"Ndalemba kalekale, ndipo ndili ndi mabuku atatu, ndipo ndimafuna kuwerenga mosavuta." Koma ndiye kuti sipadzakhalapo. Ndikumvetsa kuti kuyambira mawu akuti, nthawi zambiri sindimadziwa komwe ndingachimalize, ndipo ndikumvetsa, ndi cholakwika changa komanso kufooka kwanga. Sindikuvutika ndi kuchuluka kwa malingaliro anga. Koma zikuwoneka kuti china chake chokhudza zomwe ndidatha kukwaniritsa, sizikugwirizana ndi mawu osavuta a foni SMS. Koma pano nthawi zambiri ndimapunthwa ngakhale ndikumavutika kuti Lucavinka kapena kufooka, kubisala, owerenga, owerenga anga popanda kuganiza, ndipo mwadzidzidzi ndimunthu amene wadziwika ndi munthu Munthawi ino kuyambira zaka zana zapitazo, kapena kuti mabatani onse a Dandy. Koma zimawoneka kuti zimawoneka kwa ine zodziwikiratu: chifukwa chofuula mwadala mawu amabisala ndikumunyoza ...
Efim shifrin. Chithunzi: Gennady avramenko.
- Kwa ogwiritsa ntchito ochezera pa intaneti, mudzakhala Schifrin. Ndani Akukuyitanani Dzinalo M'moyo?
- Nthawi zonse amatchedwa abambo m'makalata - ndi Nothimka, ndi Nothimka ndi kutsimikizika pa silable yoyamba ndi fuck. Ndazolowera mayina awo awiri omwe ndakumana nawo ndipo sindinaganize kuti polembetsa ndi dzina langa lapasipoti, tidzakhala ndi mtambo wotere. Ngakhale amalongosoledwa kuti: Ngati omvera andigwiritsa ntchito poyerekeza ndi Efima, ndizotheka kuganiza kuti angaganize kuti ndikanatha kapena kusintha dzina langa, kapena china chake chinawotchedwa kwa anthu. Zinali zofunikira mwanjira ina mwalamulo mwalamulo mwalamulo kuti nthawi zonse ndimakhala komanso pansi pa dzinalo, ndipo pansi pake. Kupatula apo, anna anna amabwera chifukwa chakuti ndi za Nura. Ndikudziwa Sasha, yemwe sakonda pamene amatchedwa Shumids. Koma ndimazolowera kuyambira ubwana kuti ine ndi fima, ndi Efim, ndikuti nditakhala nthawi yomweyo. Ndipo muubwana ndidamva kuti ndikuwona chizindikiro cha mayina onse awa. Ndipo pa siteji, zachidziwikire: Mukangouzidwa ndi dzinalo mu chikwangwani, kapena kwa ziwonetsero, ndipo zidapita. Ndipo simunazindikiritse ngakhale kuti kuuluka zaka 30 kunali mkulu, nthawi yonseyi ndi efim. Koma zidawoneka kuti ndili kwina komwe ndiyenera kukhalira pansi pa dzina lomwe ndidalembetsa makolo anga. Ndikubweretsa chitsanzo: Sinna Viktorovna Mordakova mu zikalatazo anali Novembala. Koma palibe amene sanamutchule Novembala - novena ndi nonna. Ndipo i_ fuck, ndipo anali kulira, ndipo pali fuck. Ndipo ndani amaitana? Tsopano ambiri ali tsopano.
- Panjira, makolo omwe amakutchani, kwa nthawi yayitali ndinkafuna kuona mtolankhani wa mtolankhani. Ndipo tsopano mukulemba. Chifukwa chiyani adakuwonani mu ntchito iyi?
- Mwinanso, ndili pa biography yanga, makolo anga adaganiza kuti akatswiriwa adachita bwino, iwo omwe amapereka dothi pansi pa mapazi awo. Anayenera kukhala ndi moyo. Ndipo Atate mumsasamo, ndi Amayi, amene adadza kwa Iye nkhondo itatha. Mwa njira, sanatsutse kusankha kwanga. Panalibe zinthu kotero kuti anaimirira, nati: "Ayi." Pokhapokha ndisanakhale bwino komanso woyamba maonekedwe anga pamlengalenga, ndipo nthawi zonse ndimakankhira kukayikira chisankho changa, ngakhale kuti samadziwa china chilichonse kupatula izi.
- Munasiya makolo molawirira, mu zaka 19. Zinali zovuta kuyambitsa moyo wodziyimira ku Moscow?
- Eya, izi si nthawi yomwe Gulayy idapita kwa anthu. Ndidabwera ku Moscow ku Soviet zaka za Soviet, zilibe kanthu kuti zikadakambirana za nthawi yake, zinali zovuta kutha. Komabe, wodziwa amene wopemphayo nthawi yomweyo adasandulika ku Moscow, abale omwe adasefukira m'mibadwo ya mibadwo ya banja, yemwe, panthawi yophunzira, mudalandira, adadziteteza. Sindine chomwe adaponyedwa kudziko losadziwika, ndidazunguliridwa ndi ma commentings, ndipo chilichonse chomwe tidasapaka nthawi ya Soviet, koma ngati munthu sanatsutse boma, sanasankhe njirayo chankhondo nthawi imodzi - angaganize bwanji? Sindikukumbukira mabungwe amenewo kotero kuti kukhumudwa kwambiri kuti anthu atsatire kwathunthu ndi anthu ngati simulembedwa nthawi yomweyo. Kuphatikiza apo, ndinabadwira m'nthawi yocheperako, komwe kunali maziko a nkhanza za Pore ya Stalisitist, zonse zinkawoneka ngati danifium. Tsopano tikukumbukira tsoka la brodsky. Koma kenako malowo ndi ovuta kuyimbira Cortica. Ndiwochititsa manyazi kuti ndakatulo yabwino kotero ndidayamba moyo wanga ndakatulo kuchokera kumalire.
"Ndikupitilizabe kulimbana ndi nkhawa kapena kupsinjika ndi galasi kapena kuchoka pa moyo, ndikungobwera ola limodzi patsiku lochita masewera olimbitsa thupi." Chithunzi: Zosunga zapamwamba za Efim Shifrin.
- Mukukhazikika kwa Susamn mu Chigawo cha Magadan chomwe muli?
- sanalinso, koma nthawi yonseyi panali kawiri kumeneko. Ndimanena zambiri za izi, chifukwa ndimatsimikiza - kunena kuti kunali kosatheka kulowa mumtsinje womwewo kawiri, osati zolondola. Ndidalowa mtsinje womwe palibe chomwe chatsala kuti chisinthe. Zomwe sizinasinthe zomwe zili pano. Midzi yambiri ku kolyma yogwetsedwa, gawo laili linatenthedwa. Koma patatha zaka 25, ndidakhalanso m'mudzimo, ndipo ndidawonapo nthawi zambiri m'maloto, ndikudzudzulira, ndidadabwa, zomwe madziwo adapezeka mmenemo.
- Kodi makalasi anu omanga thupi tsopano ndi gawo liti?
- Sindimayimba foni kapena kuthirira, ngakhale makalasi omwe ali ndi mavuto omwe angayambitse kubweretsa mawu akunja. Koma sindimaika zolinga zanga kuti ndijambule pa mpikisano wina kapena kupita kumasewera a kalasi ya masewerawa. Zolimbitsa thupi sizimapita kupitirira ndalama, koma ndimakonda kumva zotsatira za maphunziro awa. Ndimakonda zomwe ndimachita m'zaka zanga kuti ndizichita ndi katundu womwe ntchito imandipatsa, nditha kuvala zovala zomwezo zomwe zimavala zomwe zikuchitika zaka zisanu zapitazo. Zomwe ndikupitilizabe kulimbana ndi kupsinjika kapena kukhumudwa, osati mothandizidwa ndi kapu kapena kugwa kuchokera pamoyo, koma kumangopita pa ola limodzi patsiku mu masewera olimbitsa thupi.
- Ndi kulemera kotani?
- Ndakhala ndikuyesera kuti ndisayesere kudziwa mtundu wa peak, ndipo wogwira ntchito bwanji. Mwambiri, sindimapita kukalemba. Koma dzulo ndinapereka mita mu njira yoyamba mpaka khumi. Zowona, munjira yachiwiri ndinali kokwanira kubwereza zisanu ndi chimodzi.
- Kodi mukukhala ndi malingaliro anzeru ngati amenewa, ochokera komwe mumakokera?
- Zokhudza nzeru - unali iwe kubala, sindimamva mwanzeru. Chimodzimodzi pamoyo chabe zidandinyamula mwanzeru. Ndikumvetsa kuti m'moyo uno mutha kuwerengera zomwe mudachita. Ndipo sindine wosiyana kwambiri ndi omwe amawerengedwa ndi anthu amwayi. Ndikudziwa kuti mwayi adandichetcha pokhapokha nditagwira ntchito kwambiri zisanachitike. Ndipo ine ndikuganiza kuti iyi ndi nzeru zanga zokha.