Aliyense Amasankha: Mkazi, Chipembedzo, Njira, Njira Yakuyenda, Ngati Tanyan Sizingakhale Tay Kozlov. Ndiye wolemba ndakatulo wina wodziwika bwino kwambiri wa Alla Pugachevaval "ayezi Lida anazindikira kuti tsoka linabweretsedwa kwa iye ndi luso.
Lydia kozlov-tanich: "Kodi ukudziwa kuti nthawi yoyamba yomwe ndidawona m'maloto? Atalowa mu katswiri womanga zomangamanga, ndinali ndi malo osakhala ndi moyo. Kwanthawi yayitali ndinagona usiku wa hostel pachipinda chimodzi ndi mtsikana wina, kenako adaganiza zochotsa bedi. Anapeza agogo, owopsa, monga Baba Yaga, nkhope yake idakweredwa ndipo nthawi zonse zimakhala zoyipa. Pa ma ruble khumi, adandilola kupita ku Sofa wakale m'chipinda chapansi. Katswiri ndinakhala ndi ma ruble khumi ndi zisanu ndi zitatu. Ndipo zinachitika kuti agogo akewo ndi mtima wabwino, ndipo amamukonda mwa njira yake. Nthawi ina adafunsa kuti: "Kodi ukufuna kuwona wopansidwa?" Ndipo kenako sindinapsompsona ngakhale chodabwitsa kwambiri. Koma ndani amene safuna kuwona wopansidwa? Agogo akuti: kusewera chitsime ku machesi ndikugona. Usiku ndinalota moyo wanga wonse, womwe ndikhulupirira, sunathe, ndi munthu amene ali ndi nkhope ya Talich, ndipo amene amangoganiza kuti: "
Kodi Msonkhanowu wakale unachitika bwanji?
Lidiya: "Ndimaliza sukulu yaukadaulo, ndipo ndinanditumizira ku Moscow pogawidwa. Ndinaphunzira bwino kwambiri. Ndipo ine_mutu ndi zomwe m'mutu mwanga zinali zachinyengo - ananena kuti ndikufuna kukhala ndikugwira ntchito pa zolengedwa zotsekemera. Ndinafika pamalo omanga, ndinandikhazikitsa ku Hostel. Chachisanu ndi chiwiri cha Novembala chinabwera, m'chipinda chathu chomwe anaganiza zosonkhanitsa kampani yachinyamata. M'khola, monga momwe amalankhulira. Ndipo pano ndine pansi panga, chitseko chimatseguka, ndipo ndiphatikizanso anyamata awiri ndi atsikana awiri okongola. Sindinawonepo zowona zoterezi! Ndipo m'modzi wa amunawa - ndi nkhope yanga yogona. Nditenga ndi ku Abodza: "Ha, ndikudziwani!" Anadabwa, ndipo ndinatsekera ngodya yakutali ya phwandoli, kuda nkhawa: zilibe kanthu kuti ndimamufunsa kuti: "Liday!" Nthawi zina ndimayimba ndikusewera pa gitala yanga, ndi nyimbo, ndakatulo. Ndidatenga gitala, ndikulengeza kuti: "Posachedwa ndidalemba nyimbo, ndipo ndidawerenga ndakatulo mu nyuzipepala, adawalemba za thupi." Ndipo kenako, wochepa, amene sanachepetse maso anga usiku wonse, anatsamira kwa ine khutu: "Ndipo tank ndi ine!"
Zodabwitsa, nkhani yachinsinsi! Mwina mumakhulupirira zozizwitsa, Lidia Nikolaevna?
Lidiya: "Khulupirirani. Chifukwa mu moyo wanga zodabwitsa panali kwambiri. Inde, ndipo moyo pawokha si chozizwitsa? Tidapulumuka mu nkhondo yowopsa ija ... pomwe zokhumudwitsa zidayamba, makolo anga adatuluka m'maso a Saratovi kuti atuluke, komajeremaniyo anali othamanga kuposa momwe tidawongolera. Khalani m'mudzi wa osamva pa Volga. Njala inali yoyipa kwambiri. Ndinali ndi zaka 10, ndinamva mawu oti "mawisi" "ndipo sanaganizepo kuti ... makolo akangonditumiza tiyi, adagawidwa tiyi. Ndidaphimba khadi m'manja mwanga ndikudutsa chisanu m'mudzi wakuda. Ndimapita - pali utsi wa utsi, anthu ambiri, ndipo chithunzicho chimapachikidwa pakhoma - chachikulu, pakhoma lonse. Zimawonetsa gawo lochokera ku Lermontov Pechistan: ngwazi imadumphira pamahatchi, kudzera pachishalo chake, agoba adasamutsidwira kwa iye, ndi kunyozedwa kumbuyo kwawo. Ndimangoyeza pafupi ndi kukongola koteroko. Ndimayang'ana komanso ku chisangalalo m'manja mwa khadi, amabwera ... Panabwera wopanda kanthu, palibe chomwe chatsalira cha makhadi - thunthu lili lokha. Kodi mungapite bwanji? Pali banja lanjala lomwe limakhala ndikundidikirira ndi mkate ... tsiku lonse likuyendayenda m'mudzimo, ndimayang'ananso mchitsime, ndimafuna kuthamanga. Ndinabwera kunyumba chimodzimodzi, kuvomereza. Makolo sananene ngakhale mawu. Ndipo m'mawa wolengeza pa wailesi: makhadi athetsedwa. Kodi sizozizwitsa? "
Litdia wake wopansidwa kwa nthawi yoyamba maloto. Ndili ndi Mikhate Tants, anali kukhala limodzi theka la zaka. Chithunzi: Chinsinsi cha Archime Kozlova - tanich.
Mikhalial Isalich ananena funso loti chikopa cha m'madzi chikopa chinam'chititsidwa. Ndizowona?
Lidiya: "Analankhula kwambiri. Nthawi ina anali mwanjira ina, kupita ku Gypsy kuti: "Tiyeni Tithule!" Anatambasula mawu a m'manja. Ndipo anati kwa iye: "Akazi anu adzaitana Lida!" Panthawiyo, monga tanichi, sanadziwe dzina la dzinalo. Abambo tayich adawomberedwa mu 1938, adapita patsogolo kwambiri mu utsogoleri wa mzinda wa Taganrog. Amayinso anabzala. Misha adatenga agogo. Adamupanga mu sitima yapamaphunziro. Pamenepo, panjira, Tanich anakwatirana koyamba. Mtsikanayo dzina lake Irina ndi anthu ake adachiritsidwa, ndipo akhala ali ndi ludzu ... motero anayamba kukhalira limodzi. Mwana wamwamuna adabadwa. Mwana wa nthawi yankhondo, thanzi lofooka lakhala likuchitika. Adasiya moyo usanafike. Nthawi zambiri tinkakumana ndi, Mikhavilich analankhulana naye nthawi zonse ... Ogwira ntchito sitimayi anaphedwa, koma Tanich iyemwini anafunsidwa kwa gulu lankhondo. Ndipo adakwaniritsa nkhondo yonse. Nafika ku Germany. Kenako, ku Instov, ophunzira ophunzira adafunsidwa kuti: "Misha, ndipo Ajeremani akukhala komweko ku Germany?" Adanenanso kuti: "Pali njira zabwino kumeneko, autobahn. Tinakwera ndege pa "styackkers", monga pa ndege. " Ndipo zinali zokwanira kuti adamangidwa pamabonasiwo ndikupatsidwa zaka zisanu ndi chimodzi. "
Simunali kuopa kukwatiwa ndi munthu wokhala ndi mbiri yotere?
Lidiya: "Ndinkakonda ndipo sindimangoganiza za izi! Ndi Ira, adasudzulidwa kale ndi nthawi iyi. Misa atakhala m'misasa, adamutumizira kalata kuti apemphe chisudzulo. Iye, inde, sanasamale ... Inde, ndipo atatha msonkhano woyamba, adasowa kwa nthawi yayitali: sanafune kundichititsa kuti ndisiye tsoka. Kunasiya ntchitoyo ndikupempha kuti igwire ntchito m'nyuzipepala ya chigawo - inali kudzera mu Volga kupita ku mzinda wina. Koma sindinathe kuyimirira kwa nthawi yayitali, ndinayamba kulemba. Tsiku lililonse. Ndipo kamodzi analemba kuti: Bwera. Nthawi yomweyo ndinasiya, zonse zimaponya ndipo ndinapita. M'malo mwake, ndinapita: Kudutsa Volga kunali mlatho wokhala ndi makilomita awiri, komwe m'malo mwa makilomita. Kodi ndinapita bwanji pansi pa mvula ndi mphepo pa izo? Umu ndi Chikondi! "
Ndipo kodi banja lanu linayamba bwanji?
Lydia: "Zosangalatsa! Ndi njala kwambiri. Tinakhazikitsa banja la asodzi. Tinatenga khitchini yachilimwe. Kumeneko anayamba kukhala ndi moyo, mwana wathu wamkazi wamkulu anabadwa kumeneko - ing. Zoseketsa - Pambuyo paukwati wathu woyamba kubanja, Talich akuti: "Ngati mulibe pakati pakali pano, zikutanthauza kuti simumandikonda!" Ndili ndi mtima wa chidendene kumanzere - ndili ndi pakati? Tithokoze Mulungu, zonse zidachitika. Chifukwa chake amaikanso nkhaniyi: "Ngati mnyamatayo abadwa, ndikuchokapo!" Ndipo Ita adabadwa mu chipatala cha Atch Totch, ndikunama. Alongo Thon, taganizirani, ndili ndi chisoni. Ndipo ndikulira chifukwa cha chisangalalo! "
Ndani adasankha ana aakazi dzina losowa?
Lidiya: "Talichi, inde. Anali wothamanga aliyense wa moyo wake, amakondedwa ndi masewera olimbitsa thupi ndipo nthawi zonse amayamikira masewerawa. Kenako dzina la Kinkobs wa ihi Arimoniva limagunda kudziko lonse. "
Tayich Yotumiza ndakatulo yake mu "Nyuzipepala ya Malemba", a Okudzhava adakondwerera talente yake ndipo adalangizidwa kusamukira ku Moscow. Sanadziwe kuti wolemba woponderezedwa sakanatha kuyandikira likulu. Chithunzi: Chinsinsi cha Archime Kozlova - tanich.
Kodi anapitiliza kulemba ndakatulo?
Lidiya: "Zachidziwikire. Ine, kuyenda kwa pakati ndikamayenda, tsiku lililonse ndinatenga masamba ake ndikuwerenga ndakatulo zatsopano. Nthawi yomweyo ndimamvetsetsa kuti ndi luso liti. Ndipo adayamba kumwa mwakachetechete: Misha, tumizani ndakatulo ku Moscow, kutumiza! Poyamba adandigwedeza kuchokera kwa ine, ngati ntchentche zokwiyitsa. Koma, mukudziwa, kuponya mwala wamiyala. Anatumiza ndakatulo mu "Nyuzipepala ya Malemba" ndipo adayankha siginecha ya Siladiziva: "Mikhail, ndiwe waluso, muyenera kusamukira ku Moscow." Koma bulati sanadziwe kuti Misha itatha misasa singayandikire likulu kuposa makilomita zana. Koma apa ndinayamba kuyika zipsinjo: tiyeni titengere pafupi pang'ono, kwinakwake kudera la Moscow. Chifukwa cha mitundu yosiyanasiyana, tinapezeka ku Nuev mu mtundu wapansi wa zipinda za zipinda. Kunali kwaimbidwe ndi kuthamanga makoswe ambiri omwe timapita kuchimbudzi ndi tsache - kuwathamangitsa. Tanich idatsegula kampu ikadali ndi chifuwa chachikulu, miyendo yake idadyetsedwa kuti ndisinthe mavalidwe ake ola lililonse, ndipo ma diapyala a mphira adayikidwa usiku wa usiku ...
Inga adayambanso chifuwa chachikulu. Apa mwana wina wamkazi adabadwa ... Kunali ndalama zochepa. Aich adalemba ndakatulo, adasindikizidwa, koma adalandira khobiri lake. Adalipira vesi ma ruble makumi atatu. Zoposa mmodzi mu nyuzipepala sizinayikemo. Eya, kodi banja lingakhale bwanji pa ndalamazi? Koma olemba ena, olemba ndakatulo ochokera ku Moscow akhala atakhala kale kwa iye. Talant tanich adazindikira. Ndipo nthawi ina Morudna dinovich, kenako adagwira ntchito pa wailesi, powona pamene tikusowa, adati: Kulemba nyimbo - amamulipira. Ma ruble makumi asanu ndi limodzi kapena ngakhale makumi asanu ndi anayi, ngati nyimboyo ili yabwino.
Tanic adalemba ndakatulo, adapita kwa owakonza nyuzipepala. Adakanidwa. Monga momwe mungalembere za mtumiki wachitetezo "penyani kuvina kwa atsikana, mtsinje wa ronar umayenda. Inu, comrade Malinovsky, tengani chifukwa cha akaunti "? Iye, akukhumudwa, amayenda pa corridor ndipo amakumana ndi munthu wa kukula kwakukulu. Komanso zachisoni. Ndiye inde, adalankhula. Tanich adavomereza kuti adagonjetsedwa ndi ndakatulo. Othandizira adawafunsa kuti awerenge. Ndidafunsa: ndipo nditha kuyesa kusankha nyimbo kwa iwo. Chifukwa chake Nyimboyo "Posaunikira tawuni" idawonekera, nyimbo adalemba Jan Fenakel, wamkulu kwambiri. Nyimboyi inamveka mu pulogalamuyo "m'mawa wabwino."
Ndipo tanich adadzuka atakhala wotchuka?
Lidiya: "Koma ndani akudziwa olemba mawu a nyimbo, ngakhale kumaso? Anauza tsiku lina anapita ku malo osindikizira a Kirsk kuti asinthe mumtsinje, ndipo kuchokera pamenepo "tawuni" pa mphamvu yonse. Tanichell - masiku awiri okha apitawa, nyimboyi idayamba kumveka pa wailesi! Kunyada kwake kuli ataledzera, iye ndi womlera ndipo akuti: "Ndinalemba nyimbo iyi." Amamuyang'ana monyoza: "Inde, wakuponye! Wopumira sanatuluke kuti nyimbo ngati izi zilembe! "Umu ndi momwe amuna anga adaseka, ndidayamba kugunda ulemerero."
Lidiya amawopa ndi Mikhail. Munthu wamkulu, kuseri kwa mapewa - nkhondo ndi ndende. Koma pamene anayamba kulemba zilembo zake zokhudza, anadzipereka. Chithunzi: Chinsinsi cha Archime Kozlova - tanich.
Ndipo mwakhala olemera?
Lidiya: "Simunadziwa Mikhail Sidevich! Kodi mukudziwa zomwe adagula pamalipiro ake oyamba? Zaka ziwiri zitatha kupambana kwa "tawuni yolembedwa", mwamunayo adalandira ndalama za Copyright - ma ruble mazana awiri. Kunyumba yosangalala, koma panjira yomwe ili ku Commission idakumana ndi wolandila matabwa, zazikulu. Telefoni. Anamugunda ndikuyenda kwawo. Tinaziyika pagome lokhalo ndikumvetsera m'mawa.
Ngakhale pamene Tanic idakhala ndakatulo yotchuka, ndipo malemba omwe adamangidwa pamzere wa maya ake, sanakhale wolemera: Misha ankakonda kutenga makampani akuluakulu, anali bwana. Kudumphadumpha ndikukhala ndi ubwana, munthuyu amakhala wokonzeka kuthandiza aliyense komanso woyamba kudyetsa ndi kumwa. "
Mukuganiza bwanji, chifukwa chiyani nyimbo zake zidavomera?
Lydia: "Ili ndi mphatso yapadera ya wolemba ndakatulo - kulemba kuti njanji yaperekedwa kwa moyo uliwonse. Pambuyo pa kupambana kwa "gawo la tawuni" ya Tanich ndi Frankel adatumiza ku Sakwelin pa komiti yapakati ya Komesomol - kulemba Anthem Yokhudza Chilumbachi. Ndipo tanichi adalembabe nyimbo yosavuta "Chabwino, mukunena chiyani za Sakwelin?". Mabwana sanasangalale, koma anthu adavomerezedwa, ndipo mpaka pano amaziwona nyimbo pa Sakwelin. "
Kodi mungasankhe bwanji kulemba ndakatulo pafupi ndi ndakatuloyi?
Lidiya: "Ndi manyazi ndi mantha. Koma ma ndakatulowo adakwera kuchokera kwa ine. Ndinkawopa kuzilemba papepala: bwanji ngati Taniya awona? Kenako, buku la ndakatulo lonse litasonkhana kale ndipo ndinawasamalira, ndidaganiza zosonyeza kuti mika. Adapita ku ofesi yake ndikuwerenga. Maola atatu sanapite. Ndapeza kale zonse. Kenako inatuluka - zikuwoneka zosangalatsa. Anati: "Chabwino, palibe chomwe, palibe ... unandikumbutsa china chonga icho." Ndipo anati: "Talemba, lembani ..." Ndipo ine ndimangokusowani! Kenako zidapezeka kuti ndi chiyani. Anthu ambiri amabwera ku Tanichi tsiku lililonse: Osewera, opanga, opanga ... Amachita chilichonse, ndipo ndinayika tiyi. Ndipo ndinatsala pang'ono kuwomba matenda a Sergey Beerezin, ndikubwera nyimbo pafupifupi zisoti, ndimafuna mikshail Isavich kuti ndilembe mawu. Ndipo Tico si kale ndipo kamodzi kuti atenge. Ndidamuuza kuti: "Seryozha, kusiya kaseti, ndikumvera, kuti ndapeza nyimbo yomwe ndimakonda, ndiye kuti ntchito yathu inalemba zabodza. Ndipo pomwepo anati: "Chitani wailesi." Nyimboyo idabadwa "chipale chofewa chinali chopindika, kupondaponya ndikusungunuka ...".
Ndi "ayezi", wotchuka wa Alla vagucheva?
Lidiya: "Zinali zosavuta kwa iye. Nthawi zambiri tinkakhala ndi mwana komanso wopanda wina wa Igor Nikor Nikoalav. Talich sanakonde kugwira ntchito ndi otchuka. Zimakhulupirira kuti anali atapeza kale zonse, anali nazo zonse. Koma wachinyamata anavomera, anawathandiza ndipo anawalembera iwo mosangalala. Chifukwa chake kamodzi m'nyumba yathu, a Igor Nikolaev ndi Sasha Malinin adawonekera. Malinina tanich nthawi yomweyo anati: "Simusamala, koma muyenera kuimba nyimbo." Malinin anamvera - ndi kumayimba zachikondi mpaka pano. Igor Nikolaev Techichly amayamikiridwa makamaka, adawona luso lalikulu mmenemo. Ndidalangizidwa: Mulibe nyimbo, yesani kulemba kenakake ndi Lida. Ndipo Tidapanga Igor Nyimbo ya Lyudmila Gurchenko, kenako wina - wa Edita Pikhi. Igar akangobwera kwa ife, anjala, monga nthawi zonse. Ndidamuthira Borscht ndikukhala pansi. Pa nthawi yamadzulo, igor adandifunsa china kuchokera kwatsopano. Ndidamuwonetsa "madzi oundana". Adawerenga, adamwa kapu ya burande ndikukhala pansi ku Piyano. Mphindi makumi awiri anali okonzeka nyimbo. "
Lidiya sanali mkazi wokhulupirika yekha, komanso mnzake. M'mawa uliwonse, Mikhail Sidevich adapatsa ndakatulo yatsopanoyo.
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Osewera amakulipirani nyimbo?
Lidiya: "Sanapirire. Ine ndakhala ndi vuto langa ndi moyo wanga wonse pamazikono kuchokera ku chindapusa cha wolemba. Tizich anali kudwala kale, pomwe adagula ndakatulo yoyamba. Alexander Iratov Kwa Albim Albam Alena adagula kuzungulira kwathunthu, kuyambira nyimbo "Wiment", zikuwoneka ngati madola mazana awiri a nyimboyo. Kenako adagulanso, koma adatenga nthawi yochepa - Talich adamwalira.
Igor Nikolaev, pofika nthawi imeneyo wopanga ndi wotchuka kwambiri ndi wochita masewera olimbitsa thupi - adapangidwa pampando wanga ku Miami. Koma ndinakana: Chifukwa chiyani ndikufunika kuti? A IGOR nthawi zambiri amandithandiza kwambiri: pomwe kunalibe tanichi, anali pafupi ndipo womwewo udandipulumutsa. Ndipo Joseph Kobzon adayitana m'mawa ndi madzulo, adakwaniritsa malowa pa manda a VagANkov ku Misha ... "
Atachoka ku Mikhail Isavich, mwasintha m'malo mwa gulu la aluso la gululi "lakalemo.". Kodi chinali chinthu chatsopano kwa inu?
Lidiya: "Mill, Chatsopano! Kuyambira tsiku lomwe Tankic adalemba ndakatulo yake yoyamba chifukwa cha "nthawi" yake, ndipo mpaka lero ndili pafupi ndi magulu onse a gululi. Misha sizinali konse kudzapanga gulu. Komanso, sanafune kukhudzira mutu wa kampu m'mavesi ake. Koma pali mawu otere mu chilankhulo cha Russia "kuti chikachedweke." Tanthauzo la Iye limapereka "Pester" yamakono, kotero ndidamugulitsa: Ndinu ndani, ndani, amene wadutsa m'misasa, ayenera kulemba? Ndidamutsogolera korzhukov. Adayesa kulemba nyimbo imodzi, inayo - kenako nkupita. Kamodzi tayita atayitanidwa ku TV. Kenako anali wotchuka kwambiri. Ndinavomera kulankhula, koma ndi vuto: Awonetsa pulogalamu yatsopano komanso wojambula watsopano. Adayimba nyimbo zisanu ndi ziwiri ndi umuna wake. Ndipo ether adanena! Ndinali ndi foni kunyumba, ndinayamba kuchokera ku mgwirizano: Munthu uyu ndani? Kenako Nyimboyo "Ndipo Swan Yoyera pa PruH" inabadwa - pafupifupi nyimbo yotchedwa "mascobol" ... pamene mzinda sunakhale, anyamatawo adafika pamaliro. Ndipo pa zokumbukira, konse adandipempha kuti nditsogolere gulu. Chifukwa chake takhala tikugwira ntchito kwa zaka zisanu ndi chimodzi popanda chinyengo. "
Lydia Nikolaevna, ndipo ana anu aakazi sanapite kumapazi a Atate?
Lidiya: "Ina, wamkulu, anakhala wojambula. Pamodzi ndi amuna awo, wojambula, adachoka kuti akaphunzire ku Holland ndipo adakhalapo. Ana awo aamuna nawonso anamaliza maphunziro awo ku Sukulu ya ukadaulo, amawonetsedwa mwachangu komanso kuchita bwino ku Europe. Ndili ndi agogo aakazi omwe ali kale ndi vuto la zaka zisanu ndi chimodzi. Mwana wamkazi wa Svetlana adapereka moyo wake kuti apulumutse cholowa cha abambo ake. Amagwira ntchito ndi zosunga zakale, amakonza zosunga zake. Ndipo iye walemba - ndi ndakatulo, ndi ndakatulo. "
"Forest", nyimbo, ana, ndi chiyani chomwe chimakusiyani amuna?
Lidiya: "Sindinayambenso ndi zachitetezo m'moyo. Tinakhala ndi mwambo: adadzuka m'mawa, amayang'ana zisanu ndi ziwiri ndikulemba. Ndidadzuka pambuyo pake, ndipo adandinyamula ndakatulo yatsopano. Ndipo tsiku lililonse! Ndipo poyamba sizinali, ine ndinapita ku ofesi yake. Mapepala onse amawombedwa ndi abambo: ndakatulo ya "matabwa", kwa wofalitsa. Chilichonse ndichabwino - malangizo onse omwe mwa Wani ndi Chiyani. Kunali ndakatulo ndi ine ... "Ndani angadziwe kukongola m'mawa. Kodi mumakonda bwanji kudzoza kwanu pabwalo. Momwe mungabwerere kwa ine nthawi iliyonse dzuwa lanu lobiriwira. Aliyense amene adziwa, ndi ndani angaone, inde alipo. Amayenera kudzuka nanu. Ndani angadziwe kukongola kwanu. Inu nokha. Koma, ndipo ndidatsika ku nsanje ... "