- Lena, kuchokera kumbali zikuwoneka kuti ndiwe chiwonetsero chakutsutsana. Mwachitsanzo, onani mwanjira yoti mumakonda kuthana ndi china chake - cholumikizidwa ndi izi, chifukwa ndimamvetsetsa, kutenga nawo mbali "ngwazi yomaliza". Ndipo kale ku mafunso ena omwe mumatsimikizira kuti mumakonda chitonthozo. Kodi zonse zimaphatikizidwa bwanji?
- Sindingakonde kutonthozedwa ngati sindinadziwe kuti ndi chiyani. Izi zachitika kale moona: Kuti mumvetse bwino kanthu, muyenera kumva zoipa. Kupanda kutero, palibe chofanizira ndi. Chifukwa chake, kwa ine, "ngwazi yotsiriza" ndi mwayi wotsimikiza kuti ndili wokondwa komanso mosangalatsa, ndikuwonetsetsa kuti nditakhala wopingasa pa mayeso aliwonse. Ndipo bwanji ngati mukuchita nawo nokha, ndiye kuti mukuchita zinthu mopitirira muyeso ndipo muudindo wanga mutha kukhala chete. Kwa ine chinali chosangalatsa. Sindinakhalepo ku Philippines. Ndimawakonda nyanja. Ndimakonda wokondwa. Kwa ine, chinali mtundu wina wa ntchito yosangalatsayi yomwe idadzikweza.
- Munatenganso gawo lakale la dzina lomweli. Chomwe mudakukwiyitsani?
- zonse zomwezo. Zimakhala zosangalatsa nthawi zonse kuti ndizimva ndekha, kuti ndimvetsetse yemwe ine ndikumudziwa, ndipo sindingadziwe.
- Ngati si chinsinsi, ndipo inu nokha mukuwoneka nokha?
- Ndikuwoneka ngati munthu wamphamvu, wolimba mtima, wololera. Kutha kuona zinthu zovuta zomwe zingathandize ena pamavuto. Ndimachikonda. Mukudziwa, m'moyo sizikudziwika, zomwe tidzakumana nazo, mwina sironavis iyi yokha. Koma ndikudziwa kuti ndine munthu wamphamvu.
- Ndipo zomwe zinali zovuta m'mbuyomu "ngwazi" zakale "ndi chiyani - mu magazini yomaliza?
- ndiye zinali paulendo wina wodabwitsa. Tinali ndi timu yolenga kwambiri, inali njira yolenga pachilumbachi. Kuphatikiza pa mayeso amtundu uliwonse, tidalankhulanso ndi mitu yosiyanasiyana yopanga. Gawanani zolinga zawo, ndi zochitika zawo, zimafotokoza za malingaliro ena. Zakhala nthawi zonse kumakhala bwino, zokambirana zosangalatsa. Pakadali pano zidakhala zovuta - ngakhale kusiyana kwa zaka, kaya pali malingaliro osiyana kwambiri ndi osiyana kwambiri. Koma sindinkakonda kwambiri anthu omwe amangonena za zomwe amakonda, omwe adalembera omwe mutu wawo ukungoganiza za momwe ntchitoyi ingakhudzire masamba awo pa malo ochezera a pa Intaneti. Iyi si mutu wanga. Ndipo zikuwoneka kuti nyenyeziyo isayikidwa ndi kuchuluka kwa zomwe amakonda, chifukwa zimatha kuchitika kwathunthu, mukudziwa, zowopsa. (Kumwetulira.) Komabe, ndikofunikira kuti mupeze mutuwu kuti mupeze zochita zake, zomwe zimapindulitsa anthu ena, china chake chimawapatsa, ndipo moyo supita pachabe. Ngati anthu amakulemekezani ndikukuwonani nyenyezi mwachidziwikire, ndiye kuti izi zitha kunyadira. Ndipo zakuti mumayika zokonda kuti mwachita china chake chodabwitsa pamenepo, izi ndi, m'malingaliro anga ... ambiri, osati mutu wanga. Ndikunena kuti popanda kutsutsidwa, tingokhala dziko lina, moyo wina, wachichepere wina, amakhala ndi zinthu zawo zofunika. Sindikukana moyo wotere, sizinali zosangalatsa kwa ine. Sindinalumikiza kalikonse kochokera kwa anthu anzanga, kotero tiyeni tinene.
- Ndinkafuna kukufunsani za ubale wamtundu wa pulogalamuyi, koma mwayankha kale.
- Inde adayankha. Tinasiyana. Tidachita zinthu zina zofala, izi sizopewedwa: chipangizo cha kampu, kuphika chakudya, migodi ya chakudya, mpikisano. Koma kufunitsitsa kwa munthu kotero kumvetsetsa ndi kumvetsetsana mwanjira inayake sizinachitike.
- Ndipo munatuluka bwanji m'mavutowa, kuti musakwiyire, musachite misala?
- Inde, palibe njira. Ndikuganiza kuti anthu anali anzeru kwambiri, omwe sanalankhulene wina ndi mnzake. Kodi mukumvetsetsa? Aliyense ali ndi ufulu wokhala ndi malingaliro ake, malingaliro ake pamoyo. Ndipo izi, tikuthokoza Mulungu, zidathandizidwa ndi mamembala onse a gulu. Ine, mulimonsemo, zana zana.
- Ndiuzeni, ndipo mopitilira mu moyo wamba ndi kwa inu?
"Inde, ndinakwatirana ndi mlenje zaka makumi atatu, ine ndinapita naye ku Africa onse, Kamchatka, Sakhalin." Kusaka nyama zonse. Chifukwa chake, kwa ine, kuthekera kochepetsa moto wamoto, kumakhala komweko kwa masiku angapo, kudutsa makilomita angapo ma kilomita angapo - izi ndi zochitika za moyo. Ndikudziwa zonsezi, ndingathe.
- Vomerezani, mu sinema nthawi zambiri zimakumana ndi zovuta, kwambiri?
- Sindinganene kuti zochitika zochulukirapo, koma zovuta mu sinema nthawi zonse zimakhala zambiri. Choyamba, tsiku la maola 12, ndipo izi ndizovuta kusunthira thupi. Ntchitoyi ndi yopanga, komanso monga choncho, mukudziwa, osati kuyenda pansi pa mwezi. Inde, pali zovuta: kuzizira, kutentha, kugwira ntchito panthawi yamatenda. Koma ntchitoyi imagwetsa misozi, m'njira yabwino, kupirira. Kutha kupirira zovuta izi. Tsopano pali chizolowezi chotere: Ndine nyenyezi, ine sindilola kuti chilichonse, chilichonse chikuyenera kuperekedwa, chilichonse chiyenera kuchitika, koma munthawi yathu ino sichinatero. Ifenso, m'malo mwake, tichita bwino, tichita bwino pantchito yathu, taphunzira zambiri zolekerera. Ndipo imandithandizirabe pamoyo. Sindingathe kupirira zinthu zina kumeneko, zomwe zikutsutsana ndi zinthu zofunika kwambiri zofunika kwambiri, zomwe zili zabwino, zopanda pake, ndipo popanda kutsutsa mtundu wina wa moyo, ine, mosasamala kanthu za moyo wanga. Ndipo kuleza mtima kwa tanthauzo lake kumandithandiza kwambiri. Chifukwa kukhala motsutsana ndi munthu kapena china chake nthawi zonse kumakhala kosavuta kuposa kumvetsetsa enawo.
- Mwanena za Mkazi Wanu-Mnzanu komanso momwe kupumula kwa zotsalazo kumazizira. Zinali zovuta?
- M'malo mwake, sindinadalire iye. Ndili ndi udindo wosavuta kwambiri. Ndikhulupirira kuti mkazi ayenera kugawana nawo zosangalatsa za amuna awo. Monga iye - zosangalatsa za mkazi wake. Ndipo ngati izi ndi zokonda kwambiri, ndipo osaka amakonda, ndiye kuti ndinali ndi chisankho - kapena kukhala kunyumba, kapena kuyenda ndi mnzanga. Ndiyenera kukuwuzani kuti Africa imatilepheretsa chidwi. Amalowa kwathunthu moyo. Ndimakonda kwambiri dziko lino. M'dziko lino lapansi. Mu zomwe zikuchitika kumeneko. Komanso, ambiri adzasintha lingaliro la kusaka. Mwachitsanzo, masiku ano ku Africa Sikadapanda chinyama chimodzi ngati sichabe osaka omwe amapereka ndalama zambiri kwa bajeti. Ndipo ndi za ndalama izi nyama zimabedwa. Ndipo ndi mifamu yosaka yomwe ali. Ku Africa, komwe ndi ku Africa, komwe kulibe malo osakira, palibe mbewa, zonse zimadyedwa. Chifukwa chake, funso ili ndi lalikulu kwambiri. Pogwiritsa ntchito ndalama zathu, zomwe zakhumba mchaka china kupita kuulendo wina, nyamayo min min adadyetsa anthu omwe sanawonepo nyamayi kwa zaka zingapo. Midzi yonse idabwera kwa ife. Izi zinali tchuthi. Anthu adayamika. Ana anjala pamapeto pake amakhala ndi chakudya. Sindikudziwa, koma onse amene amapandukira izi, ndikufuna kufunsa, kodi mudadyetsa wina m'moyo uno, mudzi umodzi kapena banja limodzi? Ili ndiye funso kuti mupeze zokambirana, pofuna kuchotsedwa, iliyonse ili ndi udindo wake, koma ndimatsatira.
- Mukuganiza kuti ndikoyenera kulekanitsa zosangalatsa za abambo ndi akazi? Udindo wanu ndi chiyani?
- Ndikuganiza kuti zimachitika m'njira zosiyanasiyana. Zachidziwikire, bambo, mwina, sikosangalatsa kupita kukagula, sankhani zipewa kapena nsapato. Ndipo ine, monga mkazi, zachidziwikire, pepani ziweto pa kusaka. Koma zikuwoneka bwino kwa ine molondola pomwe aliyense wabanja amawona chisangalalo china china, ndipo simuyenera kutaya mphindi izi.
- Mutha kunena kuti, amuna owonjezera omwe mumakonda, koma osalumpha kwa nthawi yayitali ndi parachute, koma malinga ndi zochita zawo, mayankho?
"Nthawi zambiri ndimakhala wachimwemwe kwambiri, chifukwa pafupi ndi ine nthawi zonse ndimakhala - nthawi zonse - izi m'ntchito, kuti pamoyoyo panali anthu omwe, anganene, akhoza kutchedwa wokhoza kwambiri. Anthu omwe ali mu moyo wawo amakhala ndi ndodo yamphamvu ya chikondi m'moyo uno. Kufuna kumvetsetsa moyo uno. Ndimakonda kwambiri anthu omwe samangokhala chifukwa chongodzuka lero. Nthawi zonse amakhala ndi mapulani, nthawi zonse pamakhala zikhumbo zonse, nthawi zonse pamakhala mwayi. Umoyo wotere umapangitsa kuti ukuyenda ukhalepo nawo, osati kuti ndizikhala moyo. Nawa anthu omwe amakhala m'miyoyo yawo, aliyense amene angakhale, sakusangalatsa kwambiri.
- Kodi munthu ayenera kusamalira bwanji kuti muzimuyang'anira?
- Ndendende ine? (Kuseka.) Ndachedwa kale kukambirana za chibwenzi cha anthu. Ndikwabwino kuti ine musandisamalire, chifukwa sizomwe ndizomwe munthu angawonjezere china m'moyo wanga. Inde, ndipo sindingamupatse kena kake kamene kadachokera kwa iye. (Kuseka.) Koma ndikuganiza bambo ayenera kuti ayang'anire mkazi momwe angafunire. Ndipo momwe iye angachitirepo, anali kale vuto lake. Palibe maphikidwe. Ndipo opusa, mwina, amasamalira mkazi chifukwa chokonda. Ziyenera kuchitika monga momwe mungafunire. Chifukwa pamapeto pake payenera kukhala kuphatikiza kusamba, osati tene chabe.
- Pazaka zonse zomwe mwakhala mbuye wamasewera mu masewera olimbitsa thupi. Osapereka njira yosankhidwa? Sanaganizire pa mutu wa zomwe zingakhale, pitani pamasewera a masewera?
"Ndine munthu wosangalala kwambiri kuti sindidziwa mawu oti" kudandaula. " Ndikuganiza: Chilichonse chomwe chachitika m'moyo wanga chimatumizidwa kwa ine patali. Chifukwa chake ndi zolondola. Ndi momwe moyo wanga unapangidwira, zinali motere. Ndipo mwadzidzidzi kuti zikhale, sizikudziwika zomwe zithe. Ndipo zambiri sizotheka. Ndine munthu wapadziko lapansi. Sindikonda izi zopanda kanthu, makamaka zosakhulupirika: komwe ndinatayika, chifukwa sizinagwire ntchito. (Kuseka.) Ndimakhala ndi moyo wanga. Ndakhutira kwathunthu ndi aliyense. Ndimakonda chilichonse. Ndili ndi zinthu zambiri zosangalatsa, makalasi. Ndipo ndine wokondwa pa chilichonse chomwe chachitika m'moyo wanga, zimachitika ndipo zidzachitika.
- ndipo masewerawa adakuthandizanibe m'moyo?
- Inde kumene. Uyu ndi Wopambana.
"Mukuyankhula poyera za msinkhu wanu, ngakhale kuti azichita zimulepheretse." Chifukwa chiyani?
- Zachiyani? (Kuseka.) Ndizoseketsa kwambiri kwa ine. M'badwo ndi pasipoti, koma mkhalidwe wa moyo, thanzi la thanzi, kulankhulana ndi anthu, ndipo pankhaniyi, zonse zili mu dongosolo.
- Kodi mumasamala bwanji thupi lanu, moyo wanu?
- Ndimasamala za ine. Nthawi zonse ndimakhulupirira kuti zinali bwino kupewa matendawa kuposa kuchitira. Chifukwa chake, ndizakudya zoyenera, moyo wathanzi, kugona bwino, kugona moyera, mpweya woyera ndi zonse zofunika kwambiri. Ndipo zonse zomwe ndili nazo. Lero ndili mwamtheradi, Pah, Pah, Ugh, kukhutira ndi thanzi lake. Mwa chikhalidwe chake. Kuchuluka kwa ntchito.
- Kugula nyumba ku Soli ndi chinthu chochulukirapo. Kodi akufunika chiyani kwa inu?
- Ndilongosola. Chowonadi ndi chakuti ndimakonda masika ndi chilimwe kwambiri. Ndimakonda nyanja kwambiri. Nthawi zonse ndimamusowa. Ndimakongoletsa kwa nthawi yayitali kusambira. Ndimakonda mapiri kwambiri. Komanso amakonda mbewu, ndipo ife, mwatsoka, sikuti tonse tikukula m'mabusa. Zonsezi ndi ine ndipo ndimalimbikitsa kugula nyumba ku Soli. Koma izi sizinali zokwanira kwa ine, ndinazindikira kuti ndikufuna kuyimirira padziko lapansi, ndipo sindikhala pansi pa 11 pansi. Tsopano ndikumanga nyumba, chifukwa ndikufuna kubzala mkuyu, Kiwi kotero kuti mavwende amakulanga. Kotero kuti panali mbewu zomwe sizingathe kumera pano. Inde, gawo lomwe limachitika kwambiri limaseweredwa ndi zomwe ndinali ndi matenda amkatswiri a bronchial. Ndipo m'mapiri, ndimangosiya kupuma ndi pshivalkalki yanga. Koma miyezi ino ndilipo popanda thandizo lanu, ndimamva bwino.
- Amati, ku Soli simunangogula nyumba: mudagula ndikugwirizana mu umodzi nthawi yonseyi?
- nyumba tsopano ikugulitsa: 20 metres, 30 metres. Kwa ine, siili lalikulu, ndimagwiritsa ntchito zisudzo. Chochitika changa ndi chipinda changa. Ndipo ndiyike m'malo ochepa, ndipo ndine wokonzeka.
"Kodi mwaona kuti mwandiuza kuti adayamba kumanga nyumba, chifukwa adatopa ndi nyumbayo m'mabwalo?
- Mukudziwa, ndinabowola pansi. Ndimakonda kukula maluwa, mbewu, ndikukolola, ndimakonda chakudya chopatsa chidwi, kwa inu. Chifukwa nkhaniyo, monga ine ndikumvetsa, sizongoti chinthucho chikukulira popanda feteleza, popanda chemistry, ndikofunikiranso kuti Iye adziwe manja anu akule bwino. Ndipo zimandisangalatsa kwambiri. Ndimaphunzira kuchokera ku chilengedwe. Ndimamukonda. Ndipo amatanthauza zambiri kwa ine. Ndipo pamenepo, m'mapiri - mungotsatira paradiso.
- M'nyumba yanu yakutha kuli m'munda, ndi munda, ndi nthiti ya nkhuku, izi zikuchitika masiku ano? Kapena kodi mungathane ndi zonsezi mu sochi?
- Zonse zatsalira, ndipo nkhuku imagwirizananso, koma pano, mwatsoka, sindingathe kuyamba, chifukwa ndimakhala ndi ogwira ntchito, ndipo ndimakhala ndi chidwi ndi chiyembekezo. Chifukwa chake tsopano ndili wopanda iwo. Koma apo, mu sochi, ali. Pamenepo ali ndi aliyense amene amasamalira nkhukuzo.
- kotero nyumbayo ili kale?
- Nyumbayo imamangidwa, komabe, pamakhala zokongoletsera. Tsopano pa Coronavirus palibe zopeza, koma dikirani. (Akumwetulira.)
- Nyumba yanu ili bwanji?
- Kwa ine, nyumbayo imatanthawuza zambiri. Ndikhulupirira kuti ndine wosagwirizana naye. Moyo wanga unali kuchitika kuti sindidzimva kukhala wokhala, mwachitsanzo, ku Russia kapena ku Moscow. Ndimadzitcha ndekha. Ndimakhala padziko lapansi lapansi. Ndipo ndikufuna kuti zibwere nthawi yomwe ili dziko limodzi, pulaneti limodzi. Tonse tikondana wina ndi mnzake, ndipo sitingatenge buckwheat wina ndi mnzake kuchokera ku zowerengera. Chifukwa chake, ndikumva bwino, mmenemo, kulikonse. Ndinayendetsa kwambiri ndi maulendo. Ndipo kulikonse komwe ine ndinali, nthawi zonse ndimakhala. Koma nyumbayo ili, mukudziwa kuti padimba lotentha. Pamenepo mumabwera kumeneko, ndipo pamenepo lingerie yanu, yomwe ndi fungo lokoma, pali malo anu ozizira omwe mungapumule. Ino ndi nyumbayo. Ndi kukhala kulikonse. Koma ayenera kukhala. Tiyenera kukhala opepuka, ofunda, abwino, ayenera kukhala mbewu, nyama kuti mubwere ndikusangalala.