Pavel molong ndi mtengo woyenerera, koma kwa nthawi yayitali amadziwika kuti ndi ochita zinthu zapadziko lonse lapansi. Nthawi inayake anali wochita lendi kuchokera ku Poland, m'Chireanian yemweyo, Amereka, France ndi maiko ena ku Europe. Masiku ano, Paulo amalota kuti ku dziko lake lakwawo anali ndi ntchito zambiri komanso zabwinoko. Koma, monga iyenso akuvomereza, zimachitika momwe zimakhalira. Chifukwa chake, ikakhala yopuma, dzanja lake limatambasulira bukulo, lomwe amawaona kuti bwenzi labwino kwambiri.
- inu mwanjira inayake kuti dzanja litambasulira mabuku, ngakhale mashelufu mnyumbamo amaswedwa. Kodi ndinu a Bookman Boxman?
- O, chabwino, inde! Ndi komwe mungatenge chilichonse, ngati sichochokera m'mabuku? Kodi kumvetsetsa dziko lapansi kuli kuti? Mosakayikira, zokumana nazo za moyo, sukulu yomwe idapereka kwambiri kwatha, tsopano buku ndi gwero la chidziwitso. Ichi ndi chepa. Masiku ano, mabuku omwe ndimagula, kapena ndikuyang'ana, zonse zikugwirizana ndi mutuwo womwe ukunena za kuvoti yayikulu ya XVII. Zili choncho kuti ndilimidwe kwathunthu ndipo ndimakonda. Ndipo zimalumikizidwa ndi mfundo yoti tsopano ndikukonzekera ntchitoyi. Ndikulemba zolemba ndi mnzanga wabwino kwambiri. Uku ndiye kupitiliza kwa mbiri ya filimu yanga yoyamba, yomwe ndidachotsa, "mwana wa Son Sabli." Wake, mwa njira, adawonetsedwa ku Russia. Nawa mabuku awa omwe ndidawawerenga mwachindunji. Amawafuna. Ndipo, zoona, ndimagwirabe ntchito ndi olemba mbiri, amandithandiza kwambiri. Kupatula apo, chidziwitsochi chikufunika kupezeka pofotokoza za mutu wovutayi. Ndipo kotero mabuku ndi mawindo m'mbuyomu, kupita mtsogolo, pakadali pano. Ndipo ngati tikufuna kuti tidzimvetsetse, kumvetsetsa dziko mozungulira, kumva, chonde, mabuku oti akuthandizeni. Sindikuganiza kuti palibe chabwino kuposa mabuku, sitipeza. Ngakhale makanema omwe angalimbikitse, izi sizili chimodzimodzi. Kanemayo amakhala maola awiri okha, ndipo timawerenga bukuli kwa sabata limodzi kapena awiri. Izi ndizosiyana. Timalankhulana ndi wolemba, ndi dziko lake, lomwe adapanga. Ndipo koposa zonse, timadzipangira nokha ndikupereka chipolopolo chathu. Zoterezi, zomwe timaziwona zokha. Bukulo ndi chida chamatsenga, makina a nthawi. Ndipo izi ndi zabwino. Ndipo, ndikofunikira, mabukuwa ndi abwino kukhala m'manja mwanu. Izi ndi zovuta kwambiri. Ndikafunika kupita kwina, ndimalumbira kuti: "Mulungu wanga, ukusowa kilogalamu ya mabuku atatu nanu." Ndipo izi, zachidziwikire, sizovuta. Chifukwa chake, tsopano ndili ndi iPad, koma sindimakonda. Samandipatsa chisangalalo chilichonse. Chifukwa cha izi, nyumba zanga zimafa paliponse. Ndikuganiza kuti ndikofunikira kale kupaka mashelufu atsopano. M'Mawa uno ndimaganizira za izi ndikaganizira za kuti pansi ndi kunena za mabuku makumi anai.
- ndipo ndani adakhazikitsa kukonda kuwerenga?
- Ha ha, chikominisi. Kwambiri. Pomwe zinali zopitilira 80s ku Poland, ndimafuna kulowa m'malo kwina. Tinali kutchuka kale ndi olemba ena abwino. M'modzi mwa iwo anali Henrich Senkevich. Ndidamutcha "moto ndi lupanga", "Crusaders", "chigumula", ndi "m'chipululu komanso m'nkhalango" chinali m'nkhalango "inali buku loyamba lomwe ndidawerenga ndekha. Kenako ndinadzichitira. Kupatula apo, ndinali ndi zaka eyiti, ndipo bukuli linali lalikulu, mafuta. Kenako ndinalowa m'madzi amatsenga a olemba ena. Kwa ine, Angey Sabavsky adanditsegulira, yemwe adalemba "wolankhula", tsopano amadziwa bwino kwa aliyense, koma tidamudziwa kale mabuku azaka zoyambirira za Domek, mwana wamwamuna. Ndi abambo ake adatenga nawo mbali m'makona onse padziko lapansi kuyambira kumayambiriro kwa zaka za zana la 20. Kuphatikiza apo, ngwaziyo idamenyera nkhondo poland. Mwambiri, zonse zinagwera gulu lalikulu. (Kuseka.) Koma kusukulu, pomwe kunali kofunikira kuti awerenge mabuku olidziko lonse mu Chipolishi, nthawi zambiri ndimakhala waulesi. Ngakhale mabuku ena adakondweretsa kwambiri. Mwa njira, mabukuwa andiyambitsa bwino kotero kuti ndinalowa kudziko lapansi la sinema, padziko lapansi la Spielberg yomweyo, zomwe ndidayamba kale. Ndikuthokoza m'mabuku omwe ndidayamba kutsika. Ndinapeza zenera ndekha, ndikutsatira ulendo, moyo wosiyana. Ndimatha kumva kuti sizingamve choncho, mozama, zoona. Ndipo chinthu china chofunikira kwambiri: M'badwo wanga udali ndi chikhumbo chachikulu, lota, kotero kuti tikukhala m'dziko lakale, monga kumadzulo, zinkawoneka kuti ndi ife pamenepo. Koma lero lero Dows System imagwira ntchito padziko lonse lapansi. Ndipo tsopano pakhala chikhumbo chokhazikika - pezani ena. Ndipo mabuku pankhaniyi mosakayikira amathandiza.
- Vomerezani, ndipo mwana wanu Paul Paul adasamulira mabuku?
- Inde, amawerenga. Zowona, china chake ndi chanu. Sindikudziwa nkomwe chiyani. Koma nthawi zonse zimakhala zoti, mibadwo yatsopano inali kufunafuna olemba awo atsopano. Koma, popeza siziri modabwitsa, nthawi zonse zimayamba ndi zodziwika bwino. Nthawi zonse ndimakhala wokondweretsa ndipo ndimandipatsa chidwi chachikulu kuti ndizikhalidwe zapamwamba za mabuku aku Russia. Koma izi si zokonda ku Poland chifukwa cha m'badwo wapano. Pepani koma sakudziwa zambiri. Palibe nthawi. Mafoni a m'manja. Zambiri zazifupi. Zida za Gadidera Gangwe penapake weretsani anthu kuti asawerenge kwambiri. Koma ndikhulupirira kuti kuwerenga ndi anthu ofunika m'miyoyo yawo.
"Ngati tikufuna kumvetsetsa tokha, mvetsetsani dziko lapansi mozungulira, kumva, chonde, mabuku okuthandizani"
Chithunzi: Zosungidwa Zanu
- Kodi Paulo akutani? Ndidamva kuti zimalumikizidwanso ndi kanema, koma osati wochita sewero.
- Inde, iye si wosewera, amayesa kukhala wopanga, kukhala m'malo awo. Amayang'anabe zomwe akufuna pa zomwe amafuna pamoyo kuposa momwe angafune kuchita.
- Chitani nawo gawo lake? Nthawi zambiri amakumana?
- Ndimavomereza, koma izi zidali kale chiyembekezo chake. Mutha kubwera kudzalankhula ndi abambo anu, chakudya chamadzulo, kukumana, kapena pitani limodzi kuti mupume, zindikirani tchuthi chathu. Zachidziwikire, tili ndi moyo wathu. Koma, mwatsoka, tsopano aliyense amakhala payekha chifukwa cha Coronavirus. Chifukwa chake, zochitika zathu zolumikizana nazo zomwe timatha kutenga nawo mbali: kupita kumakanema, kumayendera maofesi, kukwera pa makonsati, kupumula patchuthi, amaletsedwa, palibe aiwo tsopano. Tsopano tili ndi moyo wabanja. Koma amakonda kuphika chakudya. Iye ndi wophika wabwino, nthawi zonse kuyembekezera zoyitanira ake kuti adzachezere. Zikomo, zikumbutso, ndikumupempha lero ndi mtsikana. (Kuseka.)
- Muvomereza kuti ali mwana ku Krakow anali pabwalo Hooligan, zomwe zinali zofanana?
- Hooligan ndikukokomeza. Mwachidziwikire, ndinali wolimba mwachilengedwe. Zinali zofunikira kungomenyera nkhondo ndi achinyamata, omwe iye anali abwenzi, amakhala, amasewera. Tithokoze Mulungu, tinali ndi chibwenzi chachikulu cha bwalo. Tinachita masewera olimbitsa thupi, ngakhale anakonza mpikisano wamasewera kumayambiriro kwa makumi asanu ndi atatuwo, pomwe Poland anali atakhala mu nkhondo. Koma dziko la akulu silinatikhudze, ngakhale tonse tinali kubwezeredwa pang'ono. Ndipo ife tinalankhulana ngati sichoncho kusukulu, ndiye pabwalo. Zimezo zinali bwino kwambiri. Mwakutero, osati mayi, osati abambo, osati mpingo, ndipo bwalolo linandikweza. Koma osati m'lingaliro lakuti ndife Hooligani kumeneko, tinali anyamata omvera. Nthawi zonse amabwerera kunyumba, kuwuma, kutsukidwa, kuphunzira. Ndipo kenako ndinapita kumasewera. Ndipo masewerawa ndi ineyo ndi nyumba yachiwiri. Volleyball, mpira, othamanga, opepuka, ndine wokonda kwambiri. Linali gawo lachiwiri la moyo wanga.
- Ndipo lero muyenera kuthana ndi malo omwe ali pansi pa Dzuwa?
- pafupipafupi. Nthawi zonse ndikayang'ana achinyamata omwe amakonda kwambiri, ndimakonda kuti ali ndi tsogolo, angafanane ndi buku lakale. Ali ndi chiyembekezo komanso amakhulupirira mumtima kuti mawa zidzakhala bwino kuposa lero. Akuluakulu onse ndi anthu okalamba adalowa m'miyoyo yawo, komanso kangapo, pamutu. Tsogolo la iwo linasambira. Ndipo amapweteka, monga sitima zojambula, mitu yodwala. Ndikhulupirira kuti ndikofunikira kuti tizikhala kwinakwake mkati mwa mwana wanga, yemwe tonsefe onse anali, osayiwalapo za izi. Ndikofunikira kwambiri komanso pakufunika. Popanda izi, timataya mwayi wamoyo. Sitipita kumeneko osati choncho. Ndikofunikira osati kukumbukira, komanso kuyesa kudzera maubwenzi ndi anthu ena kutenga nawo mbali pakupanga chidwi kuti akhale ndi chidwi cha ubwana.
"Mwana amakonda kuphika chakudya. Iye ndi wophika bwino, nthawi zonse kuyembekezera zoyitanira kuti abwerere "
Chithunzi: Zosungidwa Zanu
- Munasankha ku sukulu yapamwamba kwambiri yazosewerera, ngakhale ndapereka zikalata ku sukulu yasekondale komanso ku maphunziro akuthupi, ndi Jusfak National University of Yagelonia? Osakayikira konse ntchito yomwe sanasankhidwe ndi wojambula?
- kukayikira ... Iwo ali, ndipo nthawi zonse amawoneka nthawi zonse. Iyi ndi ntchito yomwe ilipo chinthu chofunikira kwa anthu, china chachikulu kuposa iye. Zowona, pakuti ena ndikofunikira kuti aganizidwewo mwaukali okongola, omwe amawalemekeza, ndipo amathandizidwa ndi zowonjezera, koma makamaka, awa ndi ojambula oyipa. Ndipo pali omwe nthawi zonse amapita komwe akufunika kuthamangitsidwa kuti amvetsetse kena kake kantchito, nadzidziwitsa okha, kuti amvetsetse zomwe zikuchitika m'dziko lapansi. Njira yosangalatsa, koma nthawi zonse ndimakhala ndikudzifunsa kuti sikuti amangochita. Ndinkachita chidwi ndi chilichonse chokhudzana ndi ntchitoyi - woyang'anira, ndi kapangidwe kake, komanso polemba zizolowezi. Chifukwa chake ndimakhala pa malo onsewa. Komanso, ndikuganiza kuti kuchita bwino ndikofunika kwambiri. Koma kupambana kuyenera, kuyika ndalama, chifukwa ichi ndi bizinesi. Ndipo ndi zolondola, ngati inu muchita zojambula, ndiye kuti kumapeto kuli komwe kuli kugulitsa kuti anthu ali ndi chidwi komanso monga mtundu wawo, akugulitsa ndalama. Popanda izi mwanjira iliyonse. Ndipo nthawi izi za 60s ndi 70s, pamene ambuye amatha kujambula modabwitsa, ziwonetsero, akasangalala ndi zomwe zingathe kulumikizana, amwetse vinyo, vodika wokhala ndi anthu okonda malingaliro - sadzabwereranso. Tonse tili m'gulu logawika. Sindikunena kuti ndizabwino. Palibe chinsinsi kuti ndikwabwino kwambiri kulandira ndalama zambiri kuntchito yanu, koma chifukwa cha izi muyenera kuyesa kukhala owona mtima pamaso panu.
- Chifukwa chiyani mukuganiza kuti malingaliro omwe mulibe Chipolishi, ngakhale ndinu mtengo wosayenerera?
- Ndinkakhala moyo wanga kwambiri kunja kwa Poland m'maiko osiyanasiyana. Uwu ndi Russia, ndi France, ndinayamba ndandanda yankhondo kuti. Anaphunzira zilankhulo zingapo. Ndipo ndikuvomereza, ngakhale ine ndine mtengo wosayenerera, osati chilichonse chomwe chimachitika ku Poland, ndimakonda. Tsoka ilo. Mbali imodzi, ndimakonda dziko langa ndikunyadira nazo, ndipo zina, pali mitu yodwala. Izi zikugwiranso ntchito, mwachitsanzo, malingaliro achikuto. Ndikadafuna kuti izi zitheke. Koma mtundu uliwonse umakhala ndi odwala ake. Ndipo mitengo si yabwino koposa monga mayiko ena. Koma kuchokera ku mbewu zina, mutha kudzitengera nokha zomwe zikufunika kuti ndizothandiza. Ndikofunikira kungoulula nokha osati kudziko limodzi. Ndizosangalatsa kwambiri. Ichi ndi fanizo lonena za chiwombankhanga chomwe chidagwetsa mwana wankhuku, ndipo nkhuku zidabweretsa. Ataona chiwombankhanga chachikulu, ku funso la Yemwe anali, nkhuku inamuyankha kuti: "Ili ndi chiwombankhanga, koma simukuganiza za iye chifukwa ndinu tambala." Ndiwonse wa ife tonse. Pali ambiri ozungulira anthu omwe sangafune kuti mukhale chiwombankhanga, nkupindulitsa kwambiri kuti atsala nkhuku. Izi zitha kunenedwa za mphamvu zomwe sizifuna kuti anthu azikhala ndi chikhalidwe chabwino komanso chachikulu, nthawi zonse zimakhala zovuta. Chifukwa chake, anthu amaphunzitsa zina ndi zikhumbo zina, zinafika komanso zosavuta.
- Kodi zilakolako zako zaluso ndi ziti?
- Moyo ukusintha. Ndili ndi zaka pafupifupi 30. Ndili ndi zojambula zoposa 120. Tsopano ndikuchita zanga. Ndikukonzekera ntchito ziwiri ku Poland. Pali wina wamkulu ku Ukraine komanso wosangalatsa. Pali ku Russia, ku Czech Republic. Pali china choti chichitike. Zachidziwikire, ndikufuna kwambiri ku Poland, koma zimakhala kunja. Chifukwa chake, nthawi zonse ndimanena kuti zonse zili m'manja mwathu, zonse zimadzitengera tokha.
- Mumayika chiyani mu katatu mukamasankha gawo, mukamasankha kugwiritsa ntchito kapena ayi?
- Choyambira ndi wotsogolera. Kenako, tikayamba kulumikizana ndi wotsogolera, ndiye kuti timamvetsetsa, tidapezana, kapena ayi, tidzapereka china chake chabwino mu duet. Chinthu chachikulu ndikuti mgwirizano wa nthawi ino sunasainidwe. (Kuseka.)
- Iwe wotchuka, ndipo wokwera wotchuka nthawi zambiri amakhala wolimba. Kodi ndi chiyani?
- Mukuganiza bwanji? Tangoganizirani, mumakhala oposa theka la chaka osati kunyumba; Kodi mungakonde moyo wanu wamoyo woopsa? Sizosatheka chifukwa timafunikira kupumula kuti gawo laling'ono la moyo wanu lili pafupi ndi nyumba yabwino. Chifukwa chake, nthawi zonse ndimayesetsa kukhala malo abwinobwino chifukwa chokhala ndi moyo komanso moyo.
"Sindikuganiza kuti aliyense ayenera kugawana ndi aliyense. Pali mtundu wina womwe uyenera kukhalako kwa ife ndi ife "
Chithunzi: Zosungidwa Zanu
- Ndani ali wosangalatsa kwambiri, yemwe mumakonda kuchotsa ndi kusewera ndi mnzanu kapena mnzanu?
- Zilibe kanthu konse. Ndikofunikira kuti likhale munthu waluso.
- Kodi chinthu chachikulu ndi chiyani kwa inu?
- Moyo wake, malingaliro ake a nthabwala, njira yake. Mwachidule, iye kapena ayi. Ndizomwezo.
- Mukafunsidwa kuti mujambule zithunzi mumsewu, mukuvomereza kapena mukuyesera kununkhira?
- Ndikuvomereza. Koma tili ndi mliri pabwalo, kotero ndimayesetsa kuti ndisachite izi tsopano. Mwakutero, sindikanakana. Ngakhale zimachitika pamalopo, zimachitika, unyinji umayamba kufunsa. Koma palibe nthawi zonse, ndimatanganidwa kumeneko ndi zinthu zina.
- Ndipo lero muli ndi zisudzo ziti?
- ntchito imodzi ndikubweza. Ndipo sindikupita ku zisudzo. Koma pali chikhumbo. Ndipo ngati pali zopereka zosangalatsa, sindikanakana. Tsopano ndili wotanganidwa, monga ndidanenera, ndikulemba script. Ndipo izi zimandinyamula pa pulogalamu yonse. Ndili ndi ntchito zina zitatu. Ndipo zimatenga nthawi yambiri ndi khama. Pakadali pano ndili ndi kanema, telepostekiti, wolemba zenera ndi mkulu. Pomwe uku ndi mtsogolo mwanga komanso wamtsogolo.
- Mwandivomereza kuti mukuwonjezera buku lonena za moyo wanu, kodi watuluka kale?
- Ayi, ine ndimamuunjiritsa iye, ndinayamba kuchepa. Ndinaganiza zowonjezera chidwi makumi atatu. Koma ndidzabwela.
- Mafani anu amakonda kuwerenga za mabuku anu, omwe ambiri mwa omwe mumapangani, koma inu mumakambirana sizikhudza milandu, bwanji?
- Zachiyani? Sindikuganiza kuti aliyense ayenera kugawana nawo aliyense. Pali malo ena omwe amayenera kukhala ife komanso nafe. Ndipo ngati munena za izi, ndiye m'buku lomwe ndidachita. Ndiko kulondola, sungani china chake. Ndimakonda kukankhira chinsinsi pang'ono. (Kuseka.)
- Maganizo a kumbali yanu ya chizindikiro chakugonana?
- Sindigwirizana naye. Ndi zoseketsa zokha. Ndipo ndi zimenezo.
- Ndi banja liti?
- Kulipira ndi kupumula. Koma ili ndi ntchito. Banja liyenera kukhala likuchita chibwenzi. Ndataya mtima wanu. Banja ndi banja! Anati, sichoncho? (Kuseka.)
- Momwe Mungathandizire Fomu Yathupi: Gym, zakudya, zakudya zoyenera, kugona kwambiri kapena china?
- Ndimathandizira momwemonso anthu onse omwe amayesa kuwoneka bwino. Ndikofunikira kwambiri, makamaka kotero m'nthawi yomwe takhalamo, kotero kuti tidagona bwino, sanachite mantha, adadzichitira okha maphunziro akuthupi. Onetsetsani kuti mwatenga mavitamini kuti musunge thupi. Ndikofunikira kuti mumuthandize, kuti ngati china chake - Pah, Pah, Pah, anali ndi chitetezo chabwino kwambiri. Chifukwa chake, kusuta kuyenera kuvomerezedwa, ndikofunikira tsopano. Kupatula apo, mliri udzakhalapobe, kotero chaka kapena awiri adzakhala wotere. Inde, nthawi zovuta.
- Mumasuta?
- Zimachitika, kutumizirana. (Kuseka.) Pang'ono. Koma ndikudziwa kuti sizolakwika. Pamene ndikuyesera kuchepetsa, ndiye ndudu imodzi imapezeka tsiku. Koma pamalopo ndimasuta ndudu zambiri. Mwa izi, zimachitika, nthawi zambiri sindimatenga pakamwa.
- Kodi mwazindikira mwanjira yathu kuti zikhulupiriro zathu ndi kunyalanyaza ndi hedonist, zomwe zimawononga ndalama izi?
- Makoma onsewa a moyo. Mwakutero, izi ndizomwe timadya, zomwe timavala zomwe timalankhulana. Uku ndikukambirana, chikhalidwe cha chikhalidwe. Sindikuyankhula za zida zamagetsi tsopano. Ndikulankhula za ubale wanu ndi anthu ena. Izi ndi zosangalatsa, pamene pang'onopang'ono timapangitsa Italiya ndi Chifalansa. Mwa kulankhulana kwabwino, mumafunikira kampani yosangalatsa. Timafunikira anthu, kuti tisakankhule ndi omwe timawapindulira. Koma izi ndizochepera komanso zochepa lero. Koma sindikudziwa chifukwa chake izi zichitika.
- Mukukondedwa kwambiri ku Russia, monga mukuganiza, ndichifukwa chake mumadziwika kuti mumakonda chikondi zambiri?
- Pali nthawi yotere, sindipita kulikonse ndi moyo wanga. Ngati ndili ndi chikondi changa, ndikuganiza ndiyenera kuzidziwitsa pagulu. Mwinanso zingakhale zokhazikika komanso kubisala. Tsopano ndi mawonekedwe anga ali pa ntchito yomwe ili ndi sewero lina, ndipo nthawi yomweyo - Bach - ndimanena kuti buku. (Kuseka.) Zimachitika motere, koma sitikhala moyo wanu nthawi zonse. Sikuti nthawi zonse timakhudzidwa ndi zomwe akunena za ife. Koma anthu nthawi zonse amakhala ndi chidwi ndi moyo waumwini, adadzuka akuchita sewero lawo.