Andrei Sokolov: "Ntawm cov ua yeeb yaj kiab, Oleg Tabakov nthuav tawm rau kuv ib qho txuj ci zoo ntawm kev txawj"

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Actor, tus thawj coj thiab tsim thiab tsim thiab tsim Sokolov Lub Yim Hli 13 cim hnub yug. Nyob rau Eve nws tau ntsib ib tus neeg sau xov xwm thiab hais txog tus cwj pwm ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab "me me vera", tus kab mob hnub qub thiab niaj hnub no hauv xinesmas thiab kev ua yeeb yam

Andrei, dab tsi yog qhov nthuav rau koj: ua yeeb yam, tus thawj coj lossis tsim khoom?

- Kuv tuaj yeem hais tau tias: Kuv tsis tau ua si tsis tau! Nws tsis zoo li tias muaj ib tug neeg ua yeeb yam uas yuav hais tau: "Kuv xav tau, twb ua si lawm." Huab fab units uas tuaj yeem khav ntawm nws. Ib qho ntxiv, Kuv tam sim no muaj ntau dua hauv tus Thawj Coj Kuv sim siv kuv tus kheej. Thiab kuv nkag siab tias kuv pib nco ua tus neeg ua yeeb yam. Vim tias tus neeg ua yeeb yam yuav tsum yog kev cob qhia tas li. Yog lawm, Kuv muaj kev ua yeeb yam, kuv raug tshem tawm, nws nkag siab. Tab sis kuv xav tau xws li ib tug neeg. (Luag.) Vim tias koj xav tias koj muaj qee lub peev xwm uas nws yuav zoo los siv. Thiab kev paub tshwm, thiab tseem txhais tes ob txhais ceg mus thiab xav ib yam dab tsi. Ntawm qhov tod tes, Kuv pom zoo li tus tsim khoom, ua yeeb yaj kiab yog kev lag luam hluas. Cassu ua tus saib ntawm 15 mus rau 40 xyoo. Qhov no yog ib qho kev kos duab tshwj xeeb, yog li txhawm rau ua qee yam los ntawm thiab loj, koj xav tau cov khoom loj. Thiab cov khoom zoo nws tus kheej yog tsawg heev, thiab nws tseem tsawg dua rau cov laus tiam ntawm cov neeg ua yeeb yam. Tsis ntev los no tsis ntev los no Volodora Shevelkova, qhov chaw uas kuv twb tau ua si leej txiv thiab yawg. Uas tau nthuav.

Qhia rau kuv, tus thawj coj yog tus thawj coj rau koj ua tus ua yeeb yam rau koj thaum koj zaum ntawm tus thawj coj lub rooj zaum?

- Kuv tau xav ntau dhau txog cov lus nug no, tsuav kuv tsis tiav cov chav kawm tshwj xeeb tshaj plaws. Txog thaum ntawd, Kuv twv kuv tsis tau coj tus cwj pwm zoo heev rau ntawm lub xaib. Nws tsuas yog tus ua yeeb yam tau tiv thaiv nws lub tswv yim, tab sis tam sim no tsis muaj tus thawj coj ntawm lub zeem muag ntawm tus thawj coj, thaum nws hloov cov Cov khoom siv uas yog zoo li nws tso accents, thaum nws teeb tsa tag nrho Orchestra yog nws txoj kev tsim txiaj. Tus neeg ua yeeb yam yuav tsum muaj kev nkag siab zoo, zoo li lub tshuab muaj ntsej muag zoo, tab sis tsis muaj kev ntxhov siab, thiab cov yas nrog nws lub peev xwm, xav, lub zeem muag, nrog nws pom. Yog li thaum kuv nyob ntawm tus thawj coj lub rooj zaum, ces kuv thawj zaug thov kom ua qhov kuv xav tau, thiab tom qab ntawd kuv twb mloog tag nrho cov kev cai uas mus nrog. Yog tias lawv tsim nyog rau piggy bank, Kuv txais thiab embellish nrog kev ris txiaj zoo. Thiab thaum kuv nyob ntawm lub rooj zaum, tom qab ntawd rau kuv tus thawj coj - tus huab tais - thiab Vajtswv. Kuv sim ua kom siab tshaj plaws uas nws nug. Thiab yog tias kuv muaj ib qho kev xav, Kuv sim qhia rau lawv kom raug, thiab koj tiv thaiv koj cov npoj yaig los ntawm kev tshaj lij thiab hauv khaum. Vim tias kuv, raws li ib tug neeg ua yeeb yam, fucked thiab sab laug, thiab nws, tus neeg pluag, lub taub hau yuav ua rau muaj ntau yam ntxiv.

Adm lees, thiab koj tus cwj pwm zoo li cas rau cov npe ntawm kev sib deev ntawm USSR tom qab tso tawm 1988 zaj yeeb yaj kiab "me me Vera"?

- Koj paub, nws zoo li tus menyuam yaus. Lom zem.

Tab sis yog qhov no lub luag haujlwm me nyuam hauv lub phiaj xwm?

- Kuv pom zoo pom zoo. Tab sis qhov no yog twb nostalgia. (Luag.) Thaum lawv hais txog nws, Kuv pom nws ua kev sib tham txog koj cov khoom ua si nyiam. Nws yog, nws tau muab yuav ua li cas hais muaj, lub caij nyoog, muaj peev xwm ua tau. Txoj kev tau qhib tag nrho. Ntawm no yog hnub no lub hlwb thiab tus txiv leej tub hauv lub taub hau. Tus nqi yuav tsis muaj! (Luag.) Hauv lub sijhawm, zoo heev thiab sov nco. Nrog Nataska (tus ua yeeb yam ntawm cov poj niam tseem ceeb lub luag haujlwm, Actress Natalia ogroh. - Kwv yees.) Qee zaum peb hu rov qab. Nws yog tus hlub uas sasha mironov tau tso nws tseg. Kuv tau ntsib nrog Zaitseva, Nazarov, peb txhua tus tsis nco qab zaj dab neeg no. Nws xyov peb tsis muaj xov uas pom thiab coj cwj pwm hauv lub neej. Muaj xws li.

Andrei sokolov hauv zaj duab xis

Andrey sokolov hauv zaj duab xis "me ntsis vera"

Yees duab: Ncej los ntawm zaj mauv vim

Thiab tom qab ntawd, nyob rau hauv lig 80s, lub taub hau tsis tau saws tom qab thawj zaug?

- Zoo, yuav ua li cas, nyob zoo, tau kawg, nws tau khiav tawm. Nov kuj yog ib feem ntawm txoj haujlwm. Lub sijhawm ntawd, tau kawg, kuv tsis yog xav tias nws tuaj yeem hu ua tus kab mob STAR. Kev tshuaj ntsuam seb muaj dab tsi tshwm sim, kuv, los ntawm thiab loj, tsis rhuav lub hau. Tab sis ntawm qee theem, Kuv pib nkag siab tias kuv tau raug tshem tawm ntawm tej daim, thiab yog tias kuv tsum nres cov txheej txheem no, ces kuv yuav tsis nyob ib yam dab tsi. Thiab tam sim no qhov chaw muag muag no, kev saib xyuas hauv kev khawb ntau, uas yog, hauv tsev kawm ntawv, vim kuv tau kawm. Kuv nco txog qee tus neeg sawv cev ntawm qee qhov kev ua koob tsheej hu thiab nug yog tias kuv yuav ya mus rau Nyiv, thiab kuv teb tias kuv tsis tuaj yeem, kuv muaj kev kawm. Tib neeg cia li tsis nkag siab thiab muab lub raj. Koj tuaj yeem cuam tshuam sib txawv li no, tab sis ntawm no thaum koj mus rau hauv xws li ib tus neeg saib koj nrog qhib qhov muag thiab koj yuav tsum muaj peev xwm tsim cov tshuaj tiv thaiv. Nws yuav zoo yog tias muaj kev ua si nyob rau hauv cov tsev kawm ntawv hauv zej zog, "yuav ua li cas rau cov neeg, yuav ua li cas los ua ib tug neeg ua haujlwm." Tom qab tag nrho, nws tseem tsis yog qhov zais cia uas muaj ntau tus neeg muaj peev xwm, txog qhov twg, vim lawv tus cwj pwm, tsis muaj leej twg paub. Muaj cov neeg muaj cov neeg muaj zog, zoo heev, tab sis leej twg tsis tas yuav tsum tau ua, thiab cov neeg ua haujlwm uas yog lub ntsej muag nyob ntsiag to mus rau pem hauv ntej thiab ua ntej tuaj rau tom ntej. Tsis muaj ib yam txhaum uas, lawv kuj loj hlob hauv cov neeg ua yeeb yam loj, txoj kev hwm ntawm lawv thiab qhuas, tus hneev qis. Tab sis kuj muaj cov nuggets uas yuav tsum tau tsuas yog tiv thaiv, tsis tas yuav muab rau lawv hlawv, thiab lawv hlawv, hmoov tsis.

Lub luag haujlwm hauv cov hauv paus no tau hloov koj lub neej, muab txoj haujlwm loj, hauv koj txoj kev lees paub ", uas kav koj, hloov tus cwj pwm thiab cwj pwm. Thiab tseem, twg ntawm ob zaj yeeb yaj kiab no ua rau koj ntxiv?

- Koj paub, "kws lij choj" yog lub neej me me. Qhov no tsis yog ib xyoo lossis ob xyoos, thiab tsis tau peb, nws tau ntev tshaj kaum xyoo. Thiab qhov no yog dab tsi pib kos duab nrog "txoj kab kev tiv thaiv", thiab tom qab ntawd tig mus ua si cov paj ntaub twb muaj nyob rau hauv "kws lij choj". Dab tsi yog qhov kev txhaum mus zais ib yam dab tsi, nws pom ntawm lub vijtsam uas muaj cov kev ua tiav tshwj xeeb uas nyuaj nrhiav tau. Tab sis qhov no yog qhov kev paub zoo kawg nkaus. Kuv tau pib tua ua tus thawj coj thawj zaug. Thiab cov neeg tsim khoom tau los ua thawj zaug. Peb muaj tag nrho tsev neeg uas nyob ntev, thiab tus caj qaum tseem muaj. Thiab dab tsi ntau cuam tshuam? Qhov kev paub zoo ntawd ua rau nws ua tau qee yam kom tau npaj ua ntej. Kuv nkag siab tias kuv nco qee yam hauv kev sib txuas nrog kev ua haujlwm tas mus li. Tab sis ntawm qhov tod tes, Kuv xav tias kuv muaj qee qhov kev lees paub ntxiv rau qhov kev ntseeg "me me." Vim tias daim duab "me ntsis vera" yog li thiab tseem yog ib qho kev ua yeeb yaj kiab duab uas nws yuav tsum muaj kev ntseeg zoo rau "kev ntseeg me me" uas muaj lwm yam ntxiv. Kuv xyov tau muab xam tas li, Kuv muaj ntau tshaj ib puas lub luag haujlwm tseem ceeb hauv xinesmas, tab sis tseem paub "asphalt yis", "tus kws lij choj mus los ntawm tsib-xya daim duab. Tom qab tag nrho, tsawg tus neeg hnov ​​txog "tus neeg hiav txwv", "tsiaj ntawv lub neej kawg" thiab tom qab ntawd rau ntawm daim ntawv, raws li lawv hais. (Luag.)

Andrei Sokolov:

"Kuv nco txog qee tus neeg sawv cev ntawm qee qhov kev ua koob tsheej thiab nug yog tias kuv yuav ya mus rau Nyiv lossis hais tias kuv tsis tuaj yeem, Kuv muaj kev kawm"

Gennady Avramenko

Lawv paub lub TV yog qhia tau li cas, piv txwv li, "lub rooj zaum zaum kawg".

- Ntawm no, kuj muaj txoj cai. Thiab tib yam "tej yam", "uas qee qhov tsis txaus ntseeg dhau, txawm hais tias zaj duab xis yog colossal. Tam sim no peb tseem tos "thee", "lub cim xeeb ntawm lub caij nplooj zeeg", rau peb xyoos nws tau dhau los, thaum kuv tshem tawm daim duab no. Tab sis qhov no tsis yog kuv daim teb, yog li kuv tsuas tsuas muaj kev xav, tu siab thiab kev cia siab.

Thiab tos, thiab cov neeg ua yeeb yam paub yuav ua li cas ua nws zoo ...

- Yog, nyob rau hauv no, Kuv tau muaj tus yam ntxwv zoo heev, thaum peb tua nrog oleg pavlovich tobakov. Hauv Simferopol. Lub dav hlau nyob rau yav tsaus ntuj. Tam sim ntawd noj su, thiab tseem nyob rau hauv lub thav duab tsis tau nkag. Kuv khiav ib ncig ntawm tus thawj coj, dhia. Thiab luam yeeb yog twj ywm, tsuas yog nug rau lub laub rau nws tus kheej nqa cov quav nyab, Telobrechka thiab daim pam. Kuv yog: "oleg pavovich, yog dab tsi?" - "Andryush, koj puas paub tias tseem ceeb tshaj plaws hauv xinesmas?" - "Ua si zoo" - "Tsis yog, qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws hauv xinesmas yog yuav tau tos. So! " Thiab ces lawv tau muab tshem tawm hauv tsib feeb ua ntej thaum kawg ntawm kev ua haujlwm. Tom qab ntawd khiav ntawm lub dav hlau, feem ntau, txhua tus tau tswj hwm. Ntawm no. Zaj lus qhia zoo los ntawm tus txiv neej loj thiab tus Xib Hwb.

Niaj hnub no, cov xinesmas tau hloov pauv tau. Thiab kev ua yeeb yam ntawm cov kev hloov pauv no kov?

- Zoo, tau kawg. Kuv tam sim ntawd txhais tau tias: Kuv yog tus txhawb nqa ntawm kev ua yeeb yaj kiab ntau dua, tab sis tib qho kev ua si "Koyka", uas kuv tau muab tso, tau sim. Nws tau hais tseg ces. Tsuas yog tus tub nkeeg tsis pom cov lus los ntawm muaj. Rau kaum tsib xyoos, uas peb tau ua si, peb tau ua yeeb yam 1752, qhov no yog ib daim duab colossal. Chiv Keeb txiav txim siab nco qab. Noj mov. Tag nrho cov tseeb no uas tau muaj lub ntsej muag, tab sis nws zoo li kuv thaum lawv mus rau lwm yam tshaj li qhov nws tau ua, piv txwv li kev npau taws, qhov no yog ib zaj dab neeg sib txawv. Thaum tus thawj coj tsis tuaj yeem qhia ib zaj dab neeg nrog cov lus, tab sis sim hloov lawv nrog lwm cov ntaub ntawv, thiab tsis tas ib txwm muaj kev sib luag, rau kuv nws tsis muaj zog. Kuv tsis tuaj yeem hais tias muaj tej yam uas tsis tau qhab nia, muaj li ntawd, tab sis thaum nws dhau los ua qhov kawg ntawm nws tus kheej, yuav hais li cas ces. Thiab, hmoov tsis zoo, muaj ib txwm ua rau cov neeg tua hluav taws. Lawv txaus. Vim tias nws yooj yim dua, ntawm ib sab. Thiab nws ib txwm ua rau cov hluas tiam. Cov neeg uas laus yuav sawv thiab ploj mus, thiab cov uas muab tso rau, lawv tau khawm. Hmoov tsis zoo, qhov no nrog peb, yog tam sim no. Tab sis txawm hais tias txawm yog tej yam no, muaj cov ncej, cov neeg uas nyob ntawm peb cov kos duab ua yeeb yaj kiab. Vajtswv muab kev noj qab haus huv rau lawv.

Andrei Sokolov:

"Yav dhau los, tus neeg ua yeeb yam yog ib qho khoom lag luam. Tam sim no kuv pom tias qhov kis tau dhau mus, Kuv pom li cas tag nrho nws tshwm sim - tus pheej yig dua"

Gennady Cherkasov

Hauv koj lub tswv yim, cov xwm txheej xwm txheej tau sib txawv?

- Yog lawm. Qhov no tseem qhia nws txoj cai. Yav dhau los, tus neeg ua yeeb yam yog ib qho khoom. Tam sim no kuv pom tias cov castings dhau mus, Kuv pom yuav ua li cas tag nrho nws tshwm sim - tus nqi pheej yig dua, zoo dua qub. Thiab pheej yig yog tsis zoo. Txoj haujlwm yuav tsum tau txais, yog li nws hu ua txoj haujlwm. Thiab TV ua tau muaj zog heev rau lub siab, nws tsa tus saib, kua muag. Thiab qhov no yog tiam ntau ntawm cov zaub mov nrawm tau raug coj los, los ntawm thiab loj. Thiab vim li cas tom qab ntawv kawm tiav? Vim li cas nws thiaj li tsim nyog thaum koj tuaj yeem qhia lub hli liab ntawm TV thiab, raws li ib tus neeg los ntawm tus poj, nws yuav dhau los ua lub hnub qub? Qhov no tam sim no mus. Qhov tseeb uas peb txia lub qhov hauv qhov no xav twv yuav raug hu. Cov neeg uas tsis tuaj yeem pom zoo yuav tsis muaj peev xwm tsim lub zej zog. Thiab kab lis kev cai yuav tsum tau cog. Thiab nws yog ib tug txheej txheem mob. Thiab nws yog qhov nyuaj dua ua rau ib tus neeg xav, muaj peev xwm txaus siab rau txhua yam tshaj li tiv thaiv koj qhov kev xav tau ntuj.

Thiab tus neeg ua yeeb yam tuav lub tsev ua yeeb yam li cas yog "lenk"?

- Thaum twg koj muaj rau ntau tshaj 25 xyoos, nws yog koj lub tsev. Thiab tsis muaj teeb meem li cas kev sib raug zoo, kev ua yeeb yam ntawm kev ua yeeb yam, kev ua khawv koob ntawm Zakharov, cov cua zoo raws nraim li nws nyob tau. Thiab ntau npaum li cas koj muab tso rau hauv qhov xwm txheej, ntau npaum li cas yuav muab rau koj ntau. Thiab yeej ib txwm to taub tias qhov no yog koj lub tsev, thiab cov niam txiv tsis xaiv, raws li lawv hais. Ntawm no cov txheej txheem kev xaiv yog thawj zaug thaum koj raug caw mus rau tom tsev ua yeeb yam. Tab sis ib zaug ntxiv, txhua tus neeg ua yeeb yam muaj lawv tus kheej txoj cai rau kev ua yeeb yam. Qee tus neeg ntseeg hais tias nws tsis tuaj yeem ua haujlwm hauv ib qho kev ua yeeb yam ua yeeb yam rau ntau tshaj tsib xyoos, ntxais. Thiab koj yuav tsum hloov. Thiab nws zoo li kuv, ntawm qhov tsis tooj: lawv tsis hloov nees ntawm kev hla. Kuv yeej nyiam qhov kev ua yeeb yam no. Muaj qee qhov pitfalls, nws zoo li lub xeev hauv lub xeev. Tab sis qhov no yog lub neej, nws yog qhov qub.

Dab tsi tau hloov pauv nrog kev saib xyuas ntawm Mark Anatolyevich Zakharov?

- Thaum tham txog nws heev. Vim tias cov chav locomotive uas nws dispersed, uas inertia tseem yuav ua yeeb yaj kiab. Thiab tam sim no tsuas yog ib lub sijhawm ntawm cov kev tshawb pom ntawm daim ntawv ntawm lub neej. Nyob rau hauv txhua rooj plaub, nws yog qhov tseeb uas, hloov Mark Anatolyevich, nws tseem yuav swb. Txhua tus yuav muab piv. Thiab tsis yog tias tus kws kos duab no yuav tsum yog tus kws kos duab hauv nws tus kheej, tab sis nws tseem yuav tsum yog tus kws kos duab nrog cov txuj ci thiab tus cwj pwm los sib piv cov kev sib piv no. Yog li ntawd, txhua yam tsis yooj yim. Tam sim no nws tus nom tswv zaj keeb kwm borisovich ua ib tug npoj yaig, tus khub thiab tus phooj ywg yog koom nrog hauv kev ua yeeb yam. Thiab qhov no, zoo li kuv, niaj hnub no yog txoj kev txiav txim siab zoo.

Tsis muaj ib lub sijhawm nyob hauv lub neej kom koj khuv xim txoj kev xaiv?

- Kev ua xyem xyav, lawv ib txwm noj cov tub hluas. Tab sis ntawm no nws yog tib neeg tsis muaj zog, yog koj hais rau koj tus kheej: "Tij Laug, koj tau ua txhaum," Tom qab ntawd ua dab tsi? Yog li ntawd, thaum lub sijhawm hluas tsis muaj zog tshwm sim, qee yam kev txawj ntse suav nrog, uas qhia tau tias txhua yam paub hauv kev sib piv. Tias txhua yam tsuas yog tsis muab. Thiab yog tias koj saib tsawg kawg qhov tshwm sim los ntawm sab, ces koj nkag siab: Kuv tswj tau qee yam hauv txoj haujlwm no. Nws tuaj yeem sib txawv, yog, tej zaum, nws tuaj yeem, tab sis zaj dab neeg ntawm subjunctive ignition tsis nyiam thiab tsis pom. Qhov no yog los ntawm qeb yog tias ... thiab dab tsi yuav hloov ntawm qhov no? Kuv xav tias ib yam dab tsi tswj, ib yam dab tsi tsis yog. Tab sis tseem muaj txoj hauv kev mus ntxiv. Txoj kev yog khoom muaj nqis mus. Muaj cov phiaj xwm, cov tswv yim uas tseem tuaj yeem tau koob meej rau Vajtswv siv.

Koj muaj hnub yug. Koj puas nyiam ua kev zoo siab rau tam sim no?

- Nws yog qhov tseeb ceeb toom tsuas yog ib txhis tsib xyoo-laus. Thiab yog li peb ib txwm muaj nrog cov neeg kaw, peb tau tso dej hiav txwv thiab siv koj lub sijhawm.

Koj tus cwj pwm rau koj lub hnub nyoog? Tom qab tag nrho, thaum yau txhua tus neeg xav kom loj hlob sai dua, thiab muaj ntau tus pib mus nkaum nws.

- Yuav zais ib yam dab tsi? Nws yog dab tsi nws yog. Ntawm no, raws li lawv hais kom raug, nws muaj ntau dua sab hauv, tshaj sab nraud, piv txwv li, ntawm lub ntsej muag. Tab sis peb tsuas yog tsim nyog lub ntsej muag uas lawv tau ua haujlwm. Tab sis dab tsi tau zus, nws tau loj hlob. Dab tsi tam sim no, koj yuav tsis ua dab tsi. Muaj, ntawm chav kawm, kev tu siab, Kuv xav tau ... tab sis qhov no yog dua cov subjunctive inclination. Yog li ntawd, ua dab tsi yuav tsum, thiab seb nws yuav ua li cas. Tsis tas yuav hnov ​​qab tias koj yog ib tug tub. Txawm hais tias, thaum koj nkag siab tias ib yam dab tsi dhau ntawm ib sab, qee zaum nws dhau los ua kev txaj muag (luag).

Koj puas yog tus neeg ntseeg siab? Lossis tus lej 13 uas koj tau yug los, zoo siab rau koj?

- Undoubtedly, nws zoo siab rau kuv. Thiab yog tias tsuas yog vim kuv tau yug los rau hnub no. Tab sis kuv tau muab se rau cov kev paub zoo heev ntawm ntau txhiab xyoo, thaum tib neeg hwm lawv tus kheej rau ib lossis lwm yam xwm txheej. Tab sis yog tias tus miv dub khiav, tej zaum kuv yuav sim tsis txhob nce toj yog tias muaj lub sijhawm zoo li ntawd. Yog tias ua ntej lawm, Pyatk tau muab tso rau hauv khau, thaum nws taug kev hauv kev kuaj mob, tam sim no kuv tsis tshua mus rau kev kuaj mob, tsib-txoj kev tsis txaus siab (luag). Kuv nyob rau hauv cov ntsiab lus ntawm qee qhov kev ntseeg ua kom ntseeg, yog tias lawv tsim nyog, thiab kuv tuaj yeem nkag siab lawv, Kuv hwm lawv hwm.

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